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The text below was entered by previous project administrators and is of such value, I feel it should not be deleted. (DGM 21 Feb 2017).

Update (DGM 23 Dec 2018):
•  If DNA test results demonstrate the need for changes in these groupings, these edits will be shown by a change in color or font of text, not a deletion of original text:
     This Georgia font will be used whenever I insert blocks of body text.
     Blue text indicates someone added to the Group, sometimes because they joined after I adopted the project (kit numbers 650000 or higher).  Other times, lower kit numbers are being added because the previous admins hadn't added them to this list.  It may also indicate text that I've added.
     Greyed out text indicates someone whose membership in the Group is tentative or premature (needs to upgrade testing).
     Pale blue text indicates that the member is both new to the group and has only a tentative connection to it (needs to upgrade testing).
     Red text indicates the person should be removed from the Group for the reason given, or with other text, that it's in error.

• As I work with groups, I will indicate [in brackets] the testing level and matching level of each individual .  I will also add Kit numbers and Haplogroups (Hg) as I go along.

• The project once had several groups for non-ROSE surnames; I've removed these individual from the ROSE project and moved their entries on this page to the bottom of the page (out of the original alphabetical order).

•  It remains questionable whether any "groups" should have been formed for single individuals, that is, men without a genetic match to another ROSE.  There are over 100 such individuals currently in "non-matching" groups in the project, organized by haplogroup.  So, would it actually be helpful to create a group for each one of these unmatched individuals?  I will immediately form a group for each one as soon as they get a meaningful match.


With the aid of Y-DNA test results and the sharing of family lineages by our participants, we have been able to

determine various groups of Roses and related surnames, and their ancestors... Below is a listing of the earliest

ancestors we have identified to date (as of 21 Feb 2016):

Groups & Their Earliest Ancestors

Group A

Robert Rose from England 1634 to Wethersfield and Branford Cos., CT

• Robert Rose b. ca 1594 (m. Margery), from England, 1634 to Wethersfield & Branford Cos., CT

• William W. Rose b. ca 1795 (m. 2Belinda Turner), Monroe Co., NY to Huron Co., OH

• Josiah Rose b. 1831 (m. Malinda), Monroe & Orange Cos., NY to Ticonderoga & Carroll Cos., IL

• John L. Rose b. ca 1823 (m. 1Phylinda Norton), MI to KS

• Freeman H. Rose b. ca 1814 (m. Jane Bailey), NY

• John Rose b. 1789, Branford Co., CT, lived in Elkhart, IN

• David Rose b. ca 1825 (m. Ataline Abby), NY to Clark Co., MO

• John Francis b. 1658

• Robert Francis b. ca 1628 (m. Joan Sibberance), England to Wethersfield, CT

Group A1

William Rose from England to Surry County, VA, ca 1650

• William Rose (m. Ann) from England to Surry Co., Virginia, c1650

• Robert Rose b. ca 1737 (m. Elizabeth), Southampton Co. VA to Edgecombe Co., NC

• John Rose b. Ca 1718, Surry & Southampton Cos., VA to Bute, Surry & Wilkes Cos., NC

• Reddick Rose b. 1778, Nash Co., NC to Robertson Co., TN

• Allen Rose b. 1810 (m. Edna Ann Redfearn), Nash Co., NC

• Robert Rose b. ca 1775 (m. Patsy Jones), Nash Co., NC

• Theophilus Rose b. ca 1763 (m. Christian), of Wayne Co., NC

• William Rose b. ca 1812 (m. Sarah Glover), Nash Co., NC to Carroll & Granada Cos., MS

• Richard Rose b. 1790 (m. Sarah Harrell), NC to Christian Co., KY & Stewart Co., TN

• Micajah William Rose b. 1830 (m. Sarah Elizabeth Ogdon), Edgecombe Co., NC to KY & IL

• William Rose b. 1720s (m. Martha), Southampton Co., VA to Bute & Franklin Cos., NC

• William Amos Rose b. 1827 (m. Darcus Wilson), SC to TN

• William Rose b. ca 1785, Marshall & Maury Cos., TN

• Thomas Carlton or Carleton b. 1748 (m. Martha Thomas), Chester Co. PA

Group AA

A Rose Family of Illinois (Possibly from an earlier Southern McKinney family.)

All three individuals appear to have dropped out of the project.

• Joseph Francis Rose b. 1789, NC to IL?

• William Jesse Rose b. 1825 (m. Julia Clark), TN to Hamilton Co., IL

• Kim Rose b. ca 1845 (m. Mae Hammond), of Monroe Co., AR

Group B — Hg I2-Y7214

From an Earlier Dutch BROUWER / Brewer family

There is a web site dedicated to the BROUWER Family, with much discussion of Y-DNA test results, including our ROSEs and the EMBODY, who appears to have a ROSE>EMBODY NPE.  I have no argument with the site, except that they assume a Y-DNA STR match proves the identity of the progenitorYou cannot prove descent from a specific individual with Y-DNA STR testing, alone.  For example, if progenitor Jan BROUWER had a brother, you couldn't prove you didn't descend from the brother — or a first cousin, or an uncle, etc.  In most cases, you will still need to make the paper connection to assert a specific individual as your progentitor.

Only one BREWER and one ROSE [OLSON] have been BigY tested to Hg I2-Y7214 or STR tested to 111 markers.  Because we are asserting a connection across surnames, it would be desirable for the rest of the ROSEs to at least upgrade to 111 markers or, preferably, take the BigY test, which includes the standard 111 markers. 

• [apparently left project] John Rose b. 1765 (m. Dorothy), of Rockingham Co, VA, Fairfield and Pickaway Cos., OH

• 64319 William Templeton Rose b. 1823 (m. Hester Ann O'Dell), IL to IN to MO [Y37; 33-35/37 matches w/group and other surnames]

• 67034 John Rose (b. 1760-70 d. 1830) [Y67; 61-66/67 matches w/group and 66/67 match w/EMBODY]

• 207888 John; John Jr 1800; Wm Templeton 1823; Zephaniah; John [Y37; 33-36/37 matches w/group and other surnames]

• 7689 John Rose (b. 1760-70 d 1830) [Y37; 33-36/37 matches w/group and other surnames]

• 35070 [Brewer] Simon Brouwer (1570-1604) [I2-Y7214; Y111; 107-110 matches with BREWER/BROUWER and the OLSON]

• 353796 John Rose (b. 1760-70 d 1830) [Y67; 62-66/67 matches w/group; 67/67 matches w/BREWER, OLSON, EMBODY]

• 9135 [Olson] John Rose (b. 1760-70) desc. of Jan Brouwer (NY) [I2-Y7214; Y111; 104-108/111 matches with BREWER/BROWER]

• 8068 John Rose (b. 1760-70) desc. of Jan Brouwer (NY) [Y37; has 34-36/37 matches w/group and other surnames]

• 99500 John Rose (b. 1760-70) desc. of Jan Brouwer (NY) [Y37; has 33-35/37 matches w/group and other surnames]

Group BX

Raised by John & Dorothy Rose - Group B; from a Good Family

• Abraham Rose b. 1805 (m. Sarah Mooney), VA to Fairfield Co., OH & Keokuk Co., IA

Group BB

• William Rose b. ca1715 (m. Mary), of Bedford Co., PA

• Edward Rose b. 1743 (m. Drucilla Pierpoint), Bedford Co., PA

Group BBX

This group is Possibly Associated with Group BB through Adoption.

• William Rose b. 1775 (m. Jane Elder), PA

Group C

• William Rose b. 1725 (m. 1Martha, 2Elizabeth) of York, Surry & Lee Cos., VA

• Thomas Rose b. ca 1776, of Sumter Co., SC

• Samuel Rose b. 1791 (m. Sally Freeman), VA to Estill & Madison Cos., KY

• Samuel Rose (m. Deborah Phipps) b. ca 1765, Surry Co., VA

Group CX

• John G. Rose of TN & MO - son of Rachel Rose, who was the daughter of Samuel Rose & Deborah Phipps

Group CC

• Adam Rose b. ca 1770, of Bedford & Cambria Cos., PA

• Julius D. Rose b. ca 1826 (m. Elizabeth), Germany

• Laurentius Roser b. 1686 (m. Anna Katrina Gottmeyer), Singen, Baden-Wurttemburg, Germany

Group D

• Andreas Roos/Rose (m. Cecelia) Palantine from Germany/Holland to NY c1709

• Andrew Rose b. ca 1752 (m. Hannah Chapman), Bucks & Mercer Cos., PA

• Andrew Rose b. 1782 (m. Elizabeth Daniels), Morris Plains, NJ to NE

• Robert Rose b. 1760, Harrison Co., OH & Bucks Co., PA

• William Rose b. 1806 (m. Mary Ann), Ontario, Canada

Group DD

A Rose Family of Buckinghamshire, & Birmingham, England

• Thomas Rose b. 1806 (m. Ann Leonard), Buckinghamshire, England to Erie Co., NY by 1837

• Walter W. Rose b. 1881 (m. Florence Lycett), Birmingham, England

Group E

• William Rose b. 1764 (m. Annatje Wolven),  of NY

• Jonathan A. Rose b. ca 1820 (Lucinda Eggleston), NY to Luzerne Co., PA

Group E1

• Edward Rose b. ca 1725 (m. Hannah Frost), Baltimore Co., MD, Fayette Co., PA & Guernsey Co., OH

Group EE — Hg R1b-M269

Possible Link to Channel Islands

Considering these two ROSEs have a fairly near common ancestor on paper, they have a rather weak Y-DNA STR match at just 63/67.  They also have an STR match with a BROTHERTON who is Hg R1b-FGC33333.  BigY-500 testing is recommended for both — to secure their match to each other and shake off the BROTHERTON match.

• 5762 Peter Rose b. 1745 (m. Mary Gardner), of Philadelphia, PA [Y67; has 62/67 match w/BROTHERTON]

• 115480 Peter Rose (1720-1766) & Mary Gardner (1727-1796) of Blockley, PA [Y67; has 65/67 match w/BROTHERTON]

• N4645 Jean Rose (Channel Islands) [Y25; many matches w/ROSE at 12 markers, all of which disappear at 25 markers]

Group F

Associated with Group A1, William of Surry, but not genetically

• Thomas Rose b. ca 1692 (m. Elizabeth Seward), Surry Co., VA

• Young Allen Moon b. ca 1809 (m. Sarah Manley Staples), Madison Co., GA to Clay Co., AL

• Thomas Rose b. c1790 (m. Ann Bronner), GA to Pope Co., IL

• Henry Rose b. ca 1755

• Col. William Rose b. 1779 (m. Elizabeth Winfield Meredith), Brunswick Co., VA to Giles Co., TN

• William Rose b. 1792 (m. Parthena Chandler), Nash Co., NC to Smith Co., TN

• Joseph B. Kincade b. ca 1833 (m. Julia A Saunders), KY to Scott Co., MO

Group FF

Robert Rose of Newfoundland

• George Rose b. 1750 (m. Sarah, Rachel), England

Group G

The Roses & Ross of Kilravock Castle, Scotland, U.S. & Canada

• Rev. Robert Rose b. 1704 (m. Ann Fitzhugh)

• John Ross b. ca 1775, Scotland to TN & MO

• William Ross 11th Baron b. 1545 (m. Lilas May)

• Francis Ross b. 1665 Scotland

• James Ross b. 1815 (m. Frances Forster), Ireland

• Hugh Rose b. 1738 (m. Marjory Clark), Inverness, Scotland to NY

• James J. Ross b. 1817 (m. Mary East), Madison Co., KY

• William Rose b. 1804 (m. Margaret Young), of Urquhart, Morayshire, Scotland

• William Ross b. 1700s Carlisle, England

• John Rose b. 1797 (m. Margaret Smith)

• James Rose b. 1762 (m. Margaret McBean), Inverness, Scotland

• John Ross b. ca 1809, County Derrylin, Fermanagh, Ireland

• Adam Ross b. ca 1655, Skirling, Scotland

• John Ross b. 1807 Blount Co., TN

• Alexander Rose b. ca 1860 (m. Mary Carey), NS, Canada to Lynn, Essex Co., MA

• John Rose (m. Helen Grieve), Scotland

• Alexander Rose b. ca 1737 (m. Eunice Lea), Inverness, Scotland

Group GG

• Benjamin Rose b. 1808 (m. 1Sarah A. Holman, 2Elizabeth A. Robbins), King George & Stafford Cos., VA & Putnam Co., MO

Group H

• William Rose b. 1790 (m. Wini Neal), Montgomery, VA to Galia & Lawrence, OH

Group HH

• Thomas Rose (m. 2Alice Hatch), of Scituate, MA

• Stephen Rose b. ca 1831 (m. Mary Ann), Twillingate, NF, Canada

• James Rose b. 1795 (m. Dinah Bull), Sturminster Newton, Dorset, England

Group I

• Joseph Rose b. ca 1633 (m. Elizabeth Bumpus), of Marshfield, MA

• William Rose b. 1817 (m. Margaret Goltry), NY to Dodge Co., WI & Marion Co., IA

• Edward Rose b. 1735 MD

• Nathaniel Rose b. c1775 (m. Esther Dorton), VA to Estill Co., KY

• Job Low b. 1677 (m. Mary Wormwood)

Group II

A Very Early French Rose Family of Quebec

• Nicholas Rose b. 1620 (m. Jeanne Tardif), Paris, France

• William Rose b. 1785 (m. Elizabeth Ferguson), CT

Group J

Roses of Onondaga & Otsego Cos., NY

• Benjamin Rose b. ca 1757 (m. Judith Clark), Orange, Albany & Otsego Cos., NY

• Elisha Rose b. 1829 (m. Elizabeth Headlee), Guernsey & Licking Cos., OH

Group J1

Roses of Long Island, NY and NJ

• Jeremiah Arose b. 1762 (m. Hannah), Long Island, NY to South Amboy, NJ

• Lemuel Rose b. 1754 (m. Amy Wicks), Suffolk Co., NY

• Selah P. Rose b. 1821 (m. Eunice), Egg Harbour, Atlantic Co., NJ to Kennebec Co., ME

Group JJ

A Rose Family of Delaware and NC

• Edward Rose b. ca 1787 (m. Dorcas), Hyde, NC

• Truman Rose (m. Dorothy), d. 1783 Sussex Co., DE

Group K

Rose Family of Long Island, NY; Orange Co., NY; Hunterdon Co.,  NJ & Frederick Co.,  VA

(Probably Robert & Dorothy Rose of LI 1640's)

        Please see the pages on Groups K, K1, K2, and K3 at OpenRose, including the linked Node Chart.

• Robert Rose b. early 1700s (m. Johanna), Frederick Co., VA to Hampshire Co., VA

• John Rose b. 1764 (m. Hannah Addleman), Greene Co., PA

• Samuel Rose b. ca 1700 (m. Anna Duckworth), Burlington Co., NJ

• David Rose b. ca 1724 (m. Hannah Parr), LI, NY to Lancaster Co., PA, Washington Co., MD & Mahoning Co., OH

• Matthias Rose b. 1727, NY to Ontario, Canada

• Henry M. Rose b. 1809 (m. Candes)

• John Rose b. ca 1700 (m. 1Mary), Salem Co., NJ

• Jonathan Rose b. ca 1645 (m. Jane Williams)

• Ezekial Rose b. ca 1710 (m. Mary Fidler), Hunterdon Co., NJ

• Israel Rose b. c 1730 (m. Phoebe), Orange Co., NY

• Abraham Lacy Rose b. 1794 (m. Sarah), Seneca Falls, NY to OH & Marion Co., IA

• William Rose b. 1747 (m. Mary DeWitt), Orange & Onondaga Cos., NY

• Robert Rose b. ca 1770 (m. Jane Cree), Washington Co., PA

• William Rose b. ca 1790 (m. Ruth Comstock), Otsego Co., NY

• Daniel Rose b. ca 1792 (m. Jane Harris or Lucinda), ME to NJ & Randolph Co., AR

• Stagton Rose b. 1802 m. (Sophia Smith), NJ

• Emanuel Rose b. ca 1794 (m. 1Margaret Hise), Cherokee, NC to Fannin Co., GA

• Benjamin F. Rose b. 1806 (m. Margaret), NY to OH

• John L. Rose (m. Sophia) d. 1831, of Columbia Twp, Bradford Co., PA

• John Parker b. 1791 (m. Beulah Cranmer) Burlington Co., NJ

• Alexander Smith b. 1837 (m. Nida L. Hewett) Pa to New Orleans, LA

Group K1

Also a part of Group K

        Please see the pages on this family at OpenRose.

• 3798 John Rose b. 1761 (m. Rebekah Bowen), Harrison Co., VA to Wolfe Co., KY

• William C. "Charley" Rose b. 1854 (m. Eliza Jane Spicer), MO to AR

• William Rose b. ca 1845 (m. Sarah Resides), MO to KS

Group K2 — Hg R1b-M269

Possibly distantly related (Overseas) to the Robert & Dorothy Rose Family

Descendants of John ROSE (1755-1816) & Jane CONOVER of England and Prince William Co., VA

These two ROSEs have a 37/37 match with each other, but with no other ROSEs, even at 12 or 25 markers.  They have only 10/12, 20/25, and 28/37 matches with Group K (Robert & Dorothy ROSE), indicating they are not remotely related to them.  Please see also this page on Group K2 at OpenRoseDNA.

• 26350 James Ellis Rose b. 1755 d. 1816 (m. Jane Conover), Prince William Co., VA [Y37; 37/37 match w/below]

• 139349 James Rose (1755- ); James E. (1785- ) m. Eliz Robinson; Robert Rose (1808- ) [Y37; 37/37 match w/above]

Group KK

• Hardy Rose b. 1797 (m. Polly Freeman), Nash Co., NC to GA

Group L

• John Rose (m. Lucy Bennet), of King George & Stafford Cos., VA

• Abner Rose b. 1763 m. Sally Summers, NC/AL/MS/TN

• William Hamer Rose b. 1816 (m. Elizabeth Duvault), VA to Greene Co., IL

• John Rose b. 1802 (m. Catherine Craig), ME to VT & Centre Co., PA

• Samuel Sandy b. ca 1802 (m. Elizabeth Pullen), VA

• John Hall b. 1775 (m. Sarah Taylor) VA to Richfield, NC

Group L1

Roses of Invergordon, Scotland/Canada; Wm. Rose of Fayette Co., PA

• Donald Rose b. ca 1840 (m. Ann Wood), Perthshire, Scotland

• Wilson Rose b. 1836 (m. Rachel Hartley), Roane Co., TN

• Hans Jacob Rose (m. Elizabeth) to U.S. 1749, York & Adams Cos., PA

• William Rose b. ca 1755 (m. Elizabeth Alton), Md to Fayette Co., PA

• John Rose b. 1725

Group LL

• Johannis Rose b. 1670 (m. Elizabetha), of Warwickshire, England

Group M — Hg R1b-M269

The Tormut Rose Group - Scotland to Block Island, 1632

At 25 markers, there is nothing to distinguish Group M from Group M2 (see below); at least 37 markers are needed to separate these two groups.  And please note, this ambiguous match between the two groups at 25 markers is not an indication of relationship because the match falls totally apart at 37 markers

Tormut's descendant has hundreds of matches at 25 markers, mostly in other surnames, but a few in ROSE.  At 37 markers, he has 25 matches, all in other surnames, except one ROSE — he has a 35/37 match with a descendant of Solomon R. ROSE.  At 67 markers, he has four matches, three distant ones in other surnames and a closer, but still weak, one at 63/67 with the same ROSE.  These results indicate that it's going to take testing 111 markers to shake off these coincidental matches in other surnames and to establish whether his match with this ROSE holds up or is also coincidental.  BigY-500 tests would be ideal for both ROSE descendants.

• 8400 Tormut Rose b. 1632 (m. Hannah George), Scotland to Block Island, RI [Y67]

• 252873 Solomon R. Rose (1787-1857) NY > Richland, WI [Y67; weak 63/67 match w/above]

• 72735 Frederick (Wealthy Dodge) 1794; Cornelius (Hephzibah Ann) 1817 [Y37; weak 34/37 match w/desc/o Solomon; very weak 32/37 match w/desc/o Tormut]

• 20546 George R. Rose (m. Janey) [Y25; weak match with both Group M and Group M2]

Group M1 — Hg R1b-M269

Rose Family of Burke & Buncombe Cos., NC

• Samuel Rose b. 1756 (m. Rhoda), Buncombe & Macon Cos., NC

• John Johnson Rose b. 1816 (m. 2Louisa Powell), Haywood, Macon & Cherokee Cos., NC

• Isaiah Rose b. ca 1795, NC to Washington Co., TN

• Andrew J. Rose b. 1828 (m. 1M. Neeley), Scott Co., VA to Franklin Co., AR

• Samuel Rose b. 1757 (m. Lydia Sizemore), NC

• Francis Rose b. 1753 (m. Abigail Sizemore), Wilkes Co., NC to Scott & McDowell Cos., VA

• John Rose b. ca 1800 (m. Abigail Vanover), NC to Pulaski & McCreary Cos., KY

• John Rose b. 1819 (m. Nancy), NC

• Jacob Rose b. 1826 (m. Lydia), VA

• John Rose b. ca 1740, Burke & Rowan Cos., NC

• Jacob Rose b. 1770 (m. Lydia Birchfield or Burchfield), Burke Co., NC to KY

• James R. Short b. 1853 (m. Martha Ellen Jordan)

Group M2 — Hg R1b-BY3301>BY30489

Rose Family of Northwestern SC

Group M2 has a very common STR haplotype with thousands of matches at 12 markers and hundreds of matches at 25 markers, including the Group M ROSE families, but mostly other surnames.  They do get separation from other ROSE families at 37 markers, but they do not have total separation from non-ROSE surnames even at 67 and 111 markers, suggesting there are probably some NPEs involved.  BigY testing will be needed to sort these out.  Bottom line:  at 25 markers, there is nothing to distinguish Group M2 from Group M, beyond geography, so an upgrade to at least 37 markers is necessary to be a genetically proven member of the group.

• 6781 Green Rose b. 1809 (m. 1Lydia Black, 2Charity E. Taylor), Laurens Co., SC [Y111; BigY=BY30489]

• 4428 George Rose b. 1795, SC to Polk Co., TN [Y111; SNP=BY3301; solid 107/111 STR match and adjacent SNP match w/above]

• 43279 George Rose (m. Tamar), Laurens Co., SC [Y25; weak match with both Group M2 and Group M]

• 60807 William Rose b. 1823 (m. Mary J.), SC [Y25; weak match with both Group M2 and Group M]

Group MM — Hg ?

Both individuals appear to have dropped out of the project.

• Isaac Rose b. 1753 (m. Margaret Forsythe), of Bucks Co., PA

• James Rose b. bef 1875 (m. Mary), PA

Group N — Hg E-L117

                 Descendants of Isaac ROSE (1747-1822) of Bucks, Washington, and Mercer Cos., PA
                                                including a ROSE > RYAN NPE

• 7684 Isaac Rose b. 1747 (m. Margaret Leyde), Bucks, Washington, Mercer Cos., PA [Y111; up to 110/111 match w/group]

• 48182 Isaac Rose of Mercer Co., PA (m Margaret Leyda), John 2, Isaac V.3 [Y67; up to 66/67 match w/group]

• 178837 Isaac Rose of Wolf Creek [Twp., Mercer Co.], PA [Y111; up to 110/111 match w/group; subject surnamed RYAN]

• 204708 Isaac Rose (1747-1822) of PA, m. Marg. Leyde; Henry 1786; Henry 1824 [Y111; up to 109/111 match w/group]

• 325718 no earliest ancestor given, please supply — [Y111; up to 110/111 match w/group]

• 325932 Isaac Rose 1747; John 1782 PA (Susanna Ault); Isaac V (Sarah) [Y111; up to 108/111 match w/group]

Group NN

Group with ties to Morayshire, Scotland

• James Rose (m. Jean Davnie), of Morayshire, Scotland

• Hugh Rose b. ca 1790 (m. Isabell Young), Scotland to Huron, Ontario, Canada

Group O — Hg R1b-U106

• 2007 Robert Rose b. 1769 (m. Elizabeth), MD/VA to Washington, DC [Y67; 66/67 match w/#74578; 35-36/37 matches w/group; 34/37 match w/PH]

• ???? Richard Rose, b. 1759 (m. Elizabeth Morris), VA/KY/IN — he's probably the next individual, but EA information has changed, so I can't be certain

• 19524 Rchd; Francis 1784 of IN; Marion; Francis 1848 IN/OK; Jesse [Y25; 23/25 matches w/group and other surnames]

• 19701 George R (Del Taylor) 1755-1809 VA; Rbt S 1809; Wm 1847 [Y25; 23-25/25 matches w/group and other surnames]

• 6969 Robert (Eliz Dollard?) 1769; Dr Ben Frank 1809; Chas 1848 [Y25; 23-25/25 matches w/group and other surnames]

• 37336 Richard 1759-1842 > Adam 1818-1877 > John 1849-1932 [Y37; 35-36/37 matches w/group; 34/37 w/PH]

• 37337 Richard 1759-1842 > Adam 1818-1877 > Hiram 1852-1924 [Y37; 36-37/37 matches w/group; 35/37 w/PH]

• 75281 Richard 1759-1842 > Adam 1818-1877 > John 1849-1932 [Y37; 36-37/37 matches w/group; 35/37 w/PH]

• 139166 Richard 1759-1842 > Adam 1818-1877 > John 1849-1932 [Y37; 36-37/37 matches w/group; 35/37 w/PH]

• 74578 Richard 1759-1842 > Francis 1784-1848 > John 1832-1916 [Y111; 66/67 match w/#2007; 36-37/37 matches w/group; 35/37 match w/PH]

• 74666 Richard 1759-1842 > Adam 1818-1877 > John 1849-1932 [Y37; 35-36/37 match w/group; 34/37 match w/PH]

"PH" supplies only his initials; no name, no earliest ancestor, and no GEDCOM; email domain is front end for FTDNA in Switzerland (you'd think they'd know how important EA information is and include it).

Group OX

Stephen Rose - Adopted son of Richard Rose & Elizabeth Morris

• Stephen Rose (m. 1Esther Conley, 2Cassy Curtis), KY/MO/TX

Group OY

                        James N. Rose - Adopted son of Stephen Rose & Cassy Curtis

Possible good matches in other surnames, especially CHRISTIAN.

• 76155 James N. Rose b. 1842, of TX [Y111; match 111/111 w/below]

• 81650 [Harris] James ROSE (1842-1879) of TX [Y111; match 111/111 w/above]

Group OO

• Albert Rose b. ca 1860 (m. Emeline Lockhart), McDowell Co., WV

• Noah P. Bullock b. 1878 (m. Maud Brown), Decatur Co., IA to Custer Co., OK

Group P

• William Rose b. ca 1730 (m. Mary) Halifax Co., NC

• Joseph Rose b. ca 1765 (m. 1Kurine Terry, 2Catharine Bausman, Montgomery & Giles Cos., VA

• Thomas David Rose b. 1795 (m. Sarah)

• William Rose b. 1815 NC

• William Washington Rose b. 1822 (m. Elizabeth Jane Harmon), Allegheny Co., VA

• Uriah Rose b. ca 1790 (m. Susannah Taylor), VA

• Thomas Rose b. ca 1775 (m. Mary "Polly" Murphy), Frederick & Warren Cos., VA

• Napoleon E. Rose, Roses in Virginia

Group PP

• John Rose b. 1741 (m. Ann Forbes), Nairn, Scotland

Group Q

• William Rose b. 1738 (m. Elizabeth Schoolcraft) Germany & Schoharie Co., NY

• Lawrence Rose b. 1787 (m. Thankful Reynolds), Rensselaer Co., NY to Brown Co., OH

• Isaac Hobbs Rose b. 1790 (m. Anna Young), Chenango Co., NY to Adams Co., IN

Group R

• Charles Rose b. ca 1804 (m. Elizabeth Pitts), Wayne Co., TN

• James Rose b. ca 1810 (m. Sarah Snowden), Wayne Co, TN

• Romulus Swift b. 1818 (m. Sarah Selina Paine), NC

• Isaac W. Huff b. 1802 (m. Elizabeth "Betsy" Clarkston), Lee Co., VA to Harlan Co., KY

• Jonas Eaton b. 1618 (m. Grace), Staple, England to Middlesex Co., MA

• Thomas Choate b. 1861 (m. Minnie Baker), TN

Group S — Hg R1b-M269

Another Rose Family of KY & TN & KS

• 5658 Thomas Jefferson Rose b. 1824 (m. Elizabeth Daughtey), KY [Y67; "anchor" for the group]

• 435441 William Oberst ROSE (1920-1999), desc/o Thos. Jefferson ROSE (1824-1881) KY > KS [Y37; has 36/37 match w/above]

• 24222 Samuel Rose b. ca 1820 (m. Mary Ann Bloomer), Berkeley Co., WV to OH/IA [Y25; has weak 23 to 24/25 match with the above; please upgrade to 67 markers]

• 27737 Nathan Rose b. ca 1805 (m. Rebecca Rowan), Burke Co., NC to Blount Co., TN [Y25; Hg R1b-P25; matches ROSE only at 12 markers; no ROSE match at 25 markers]

• 22996 Jonathan Rose b. ca 1835 (m. Agnes), Manhattan, NY [Y25; matches ROSE only at 12 markers; matches no one at 25 markers]

• 10576 John Calvin Rose b. 1859 (m. Evelyn Sobre), Davidson Co., TN to CA [Y25; matches ROSE only at 12 markers; no ROSE match at 25 markers]

Group S1 — Hg R1b-M269

Another Rose Family of England & NY

• 112313 Joseph F. Rose b. ca 1812 (m. Emeline Ryers), NY [Y37; please upgrade to 67 markers]

• 50576 Joseph Rose b. ca 1735 (m. Barbara Egburson), England to New York City, NY [Y25; a 23/25 match is inconclusive; please upgrade to 67 markers]

Group U

Roses of Harrison Co., IN, Guernsey Co., OH; Jackson Co., AL & TN

• John Rose b. 1751 (m. Elizabeth), Prince William Co., VA

• James Rose b. 1810 (m. Mary Schaeffer), VA

• John Rose (m. Eleanor Crabb), Franklin Co., TN

• George Washington Rose b. 1818 (m. Nancy), Franklin Co., TN

Group U1

A Rose Family in England with ties to America (distantly related to Group U)

• Roger Rose b. 1675, Whiteparish, Wiltshire, England

• James Rose b. ca 1793 (m. Sarah), England

• Richard Rose b. ca 1811, VA to Knox Co., IN

• John Rose b. 1810 (m. Martha Huffman), VA

• Thomas Rose (m. Elizabeth), London, England

Group V

• Montgomery B. Rose b. ca 1815 (m. Rebecca Vincent), TN to Pulaski & Wright Cos., MO

• Alexander Rose b. ca 1810 (m. 1Ruth Prewit, 2Mary E. Graham), Clark, Hempstead & Columbia Cos., AR

Group W — R1b-M269

Samuel Rose of Berkeley Co., WV & Harrison Co., OH; Rosen of Germany

Neither of these two ROSEs has a match w/ROSEN at any level.  Both of these ROSEs have hundreds of matches at 25 markers, all in other surnames, except for the one ROSE match with each other.  Obviously, both of these individuals need to upgrade to at least 67 markers, and it's a good bet these turn out to be CLARK NPEs.

• 6232 Samuel Rose b. ca 1780 (m. Amy Matson), PA to Harrison & Belmont Cos., OH [Y37; has one 25/25 match w/ROSE below and two 37/37 matches w/CLARK]

• 113067 Samuel R(2Nancy Jarrett); Isaac (Mary Colvin) 1835 Belmont OH [Y25; has one 25/25 match w/above ROSE and 21 full 25/25 matches in other surnames, mostly CLARK]

Individuals surnamed ROSEN were removed from the ROSE Project and invited to join the ROSEN/Etc Project.

• Daniel Rosen b. 1662, Westphalia, Prussia

Group X

Charles & George Rose of Fayette Co., KY; Adopted Roses - original surname Thornton

• Charles Rose b. 1756, King George Co., VA to Fayette & Gallatin Cos., KY

• George Rose b. 1755, of Fayette Co., KY

• Wilson Rose b. 1816 (m. Sarah Rose), Fayette & Versailles, Woodford Co., KY

Group Y

Jachonias & Phillip Rose Group of PA/OH/MO

• Jachonias Rose ca 1740s-early 1750s, Westmoreland Co, PA

• Phillip Rose b. 1780 (m. Ruth Talkington), PA to OH

• Moses Rose of Southampton, LI, NY

• John Rose b. 1818 (m. Rhoda), OH

Group Z

David Rose of Philadelphia, PA; Branch to IN

• David Rose b. 1730 (m. Abigail Busby), Philadelphia Co, PA

• William Lewis Rose b. 1840, Vanderburgh Co., IN

• James Rose b. 1800 (m. Ann), England

Group 45

Ross of Laurens Co., SC

• Dr. George Ross b. 1746 (m. Isabella Montgomery), Laurens Co., SC

• John Edward Ross b. ca 1815 (m. Martha E. Melton), TN

Group 46

A Rose Family of VA and Gallia Co., OH

• Charles Rose (m. Harriett), England

• Uriah Rose b. ca 1822 (m. Elizabeth A. Gaskins), VA to Gallia Co., OH

Group 48

A Rose Family of GA and Montgomery, MS

• Terrell Rose b. 1815 (m. Elizabeth Parker), GA to Montgomery & Choctaw Cos., MS

                                                      Group 50

                                     A ROSE Family of Warren NC

• John Parham Rose (Mary H Langford)1793 Bute/Warren NC

                                                      Group 51

                   A ROSE-WILKERSON Family of King George Co., VA

         •  Elizabeth Rose;John P(Ann Taylor)1804 KG VA

                                                              Group 52

                                   A ROSE Family of Bedford Co., VA

         • Thomas Wharton Rose (?)c1745 Bedford VA

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Groups Removed from the ROSE Y-DNA Surname Project ca. Feb/Mar 2017 (DGM)

At the same time, I opened (and now administer) these nine additional projects to accomodate the removed members, namely:

                                                                Group A2

Friederich Roose, Wurttemberg, Germany to York Co., PA on the "Osgood" 1750

Individuals surnamed RUOSS were removed from the ROSE Project and invited to join the ROUSE Project.

• Melchoir Ruoss b. 1600 (m. Margaretha), Wurttemberg, Germany

                                                                Group K3

A Brown Family related to Group K prior to Immigration

These BROWNs are indeed related to the Group K ROSEs, but then, we're all related if you go back far enough.  I did a cladistic analysis of their relationship, and there's no way one family could be ancestral to the other.  In other words, if they have a common ancestor, it's probably before the period of surname adoption, not just "prior to immigration."  I see no point in them belonging in the ROSE Project, so I have removed them; they remain, as they have been, members of the BROWN Project.  Please see also the pages on the Group K, K1, K2, and K3 families at OpenRose.

• William Brown b. 1770 (m. Sarah Lewis), Luzerne Co., PA

• James Brown b. ca 1780

• John Brown b. ca 1740 Armagh, Ireland

                                                                Group T

Aldert Roosa from the "Bontekoe", Holland, 1660 to Ulster Co., NY

                Descendants of Aldert Roosa were removed from the ROSE Project and invited to join the Dutch ROOSE / ROOSA Project.

• Aldert Roosa b. ca 1620 (m. Wintjie DeJongh), Holland

• Gijsbert Geurts Roosa b. ca 1550 (m. M. Dircksen)

• Gilbert Roosa b. ca 1794 (m. Margaret Beatty), Ulster Co., NY

• John Rose b. 1740 (m. 1LucyBoardman, 2Katherine Wheeler), CT to Broome Co., NY

• William Rose b. 1796, Montgomery & Saratoga Cos., NY

• Allen Theodore Rose b. 1849 (m. Elizabeth Jones), NY to Union Co., IA

• Ara Rose b. ca 1755 (m. Margaret Simons), Rhinebeck, Dutchess Co., NY

• William Rose b. ca 1826 (m. Fanny), NY

• Peter Rose b. 1788 (m. Christina Bongard), Ontario, Canada

• Elisha Rose b. 1744 (m. Rebecca Hubbel), Ontario Co., NY

                                                                Group T1

Family of Johannes Roosa (descended of Aldert Roosa, above)

Descendants of Aldert Roosa were removed from the ROSE project and invited to join the Dutch ROOSE / ROOSA Project.

        • Johannes Roosa b. 1742 (m. Elizabeth Masten)

                                                                Group T2

Samuel Rose of Dutchess Co., NY & Bennington Co., VT (also descended of Aldert Roosa)

Descendants of Aldert Roosa were removed from the ROSE Project and invited to join the Dutch ROOSE / ROOSA Project.

• Samuel Rose b. 1725 (m. Sarah Reynolds), NY/VT

                                                                Group TX
                Individuals surnamed ROSA were removed from the ROSE Project and invited to join the ROSA Project.

• Henry Rosa b. 1793 (m. Mary Hawkins), Sullivan Co., NY to Lorain Co, OH

                                                                Group TY

        Individuals surnamed ROSA were removed from the ROSE Project and invited to join the ROSA Project.

• Chauncey Rosa b. 1823 (m. Eliza Foster), Chenango Co, NY to Rock Co., WI

Group 47

Rosenberg Family of PA

                Individuals surnamed Rosenberg were removed from the ROSE Project and invited to join the ROSENBERG Project.

• William Rosenberg b. ca 1800 (m. Elizabeth), MD/PA

                                                              Group 49

DaRosa, Rosa, Rose, Etc. of Azores, Portugal

Individuals surnamed Rosa were removed from the ROSE Project and invited to join the ROSA Project.

• Manuel Rosa b. 1873 (m. Maria Fraga), Azores, Portugal to Providence, RI

                                                     Group 53

                                          A ROSEBOROUGH Family

                There were no individuals surnamed ROSEBOROUGH in the project or on this page when I adopted the project.