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I2b L415, I2c L596

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This is a worldwide project open to those who have tested Haplogroup M170+, P215+, L460- and [L415+ or L416+ or L417+] or [{L596 or L597} and L1251 or {CTS7767+ and PF6328+ and/or F2044+}] or whose predictive Haplogroup is I2b and I2c or for those who represent such a person. Sponsors for testing carried out by this project are welcome. 

This what I believe the tree will look like as a result of the BigY tests that have been conducted. As validation testing of SNPs occurs I will replace the "BigY" with the SNP name. For more details see  BigYtree-L596.pptx.

               I2b  L415/S435, L416, L417/S332
                      I2b1 BigY
               I2c  L596/PF6907/S292, L597/S333
                     I2c1  PF3892, PF3904, PF3918, PF3924, PF3933                                                                        * No Group B 
                     !2c2  BigY                                                                                                                          * L1251, CTS7767 Group and A Group  
I2c2a  BigY                                                                                                                * No Group A1
I2c2a1 L1251    is what I
                                                I2c2a1a  BigY
                                                             I2c2a1a1  BigY
                                                             I2c2a1a2  BigY
                                                I2c2a1b  BigY
                                      I2c2a2  Big Y                                                                                                    *L7767 and A2 Groups
                                                 I2c2a2a  Big Y                                                                                       *L7767 Group and part of A2 Group
                                                            I2c2a2a1  Big Y                                                                          *part of L7767 Group
                                                            I2c2a2a3  Big Y                                                                          *part of L7767 Group
                                                            I2c2a2a3 CST7767                                                                      *part of L7767 Group
                                                                         I2c2a2a3a  BigY                                                            *Clan Wallace part of L7767 Group   
                                                                         I2c2a2a3b  PF6328       
                                                                                         I2c2a2a3a1  BigY
                                                                                         I2c2a2a3a2  BigY
                                                                                         I2c2a2a3a3  BigY
                                                                                                          I2c2a2a3a  F2044
                                                                                                                          I2c2a2a3a3a1  BigY
                                                                                                                          I2c2a2a3a3a2  BigY
                                     I2c2a3  BigY                                                                                                     *part of A2 Group
                              I2c2b  BigY                                                                                                              *A1 Group
                    I2c3  PF3827                                                                                                                      *Group B
                            !2c3a  BigY 
                            !2c3b  BigY 

                 updated 21/11/2014

First you must have YDNA test results from at least 12 DYS markers at FTDNA.

Either go to the link on the left of this page JOIN REQUEST and click on JOIN on the new page that opens;


When you receive your results, go to your FTDNA Home page at the FTDNA website.

Under YDNA click on Haplotree and check your Predicted or Confirmed Haplogroup.

At the mos it will predict M170+ and/or P215+ you need to follow the steps in Predicting Haplogroup below. When yo have done this and the prediction is 

I-S31*,  I-S31*-A, I-S31*-B, I-S31*-C click onto the icon Projects then Join on the menu bar on the top of the screen. When the new screen appears, scroll down to Y HAPLOGROUP PROJECTS and click on the I# Selection (today it reads I(13). When that new screen appears, click onto I2b L415 I2c L596. When that new screen appears click the Join icon. 

If you are already a member of FTDNA, there is no extra cost to join the project.

If you been tested by Ancestry, Gene Tree or SMGF go to and the FAQ with details can be found at  

: For anyone reading this before they have done any testing it is recommended that as a cost benefit you should test for the highest number of markers possible (67) and only adjust downward if your budget dictates.

Where SNP testing has not determined Haplogroup new members predictive Haplogroup will be obtained by utilizing The World Haplogroup & Haplogroup-I Subclade Predictor at The predicted subclade with largest percent prediction will be used to place the new members haplotype in the Y-DNA Results portion of the I2website.

: There is still a chance that the prediction could show an error of including I2b2a as there is no way to filter this group out, but there is a haplotype motif with 10, 12 at DYS445, 454 which almost always indicates I2b2.

The current FTDNA YTree was last revised on 4 Aug 2011. A copy of the tree can be found on the Goals page.

Individual. Cost of the FTDNA 67 markers and 111 markers. There may be other tests at a latter stage. See News for details.

Project. Walk the Y (WTY) testing. Members are asked to donate what they are able to towards the project to be used in tests like the WTY, where intitially it is only neccessary to test one person from each group.

Surname Projects pertain to recent ancestry, ie, four to twelve (or more) generations back. Haplogroup Projects pertain to a person's deep ancestry, ie, their ancient ethnic origins. This means thousands of years ago. So the research emphasis changes from genealogy to a mixture of Anthropology and Archaeology, but YDNA still plays a major role for the time being. Anthropology is defined as the study of humans everywhere and throughout time. Archaeology is defined as the study of human cultures. YDNA is defined as Y-Chromosome DNA, and pertains to the male DNA which is passed from father to son(s) virtually unchanged over the eons.

Haplogroup Y-I2* Project World Families Project home page

Bobs DNA I2* Additional Tests and Information

ISOGG Haplotree

Structure for Haplogroup I Haplogroup

I Subclade Predictor Tool

Ken Nordtvedt's Warped Founders Tree

Genebase Tutorial Click onto the lighted icon and read about Haplogroup I beginnings DNA The Smart Way a step by step guide

FTDNA Glossary

ISOGG Glossary

Haplogroup I (Y-DNA) at Wikipedia



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