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Q Nordic

Haplogroup Q-M242 in Northern Europe
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About us

Welcome to the Q Nordic project!

Please join if you have tested positive for either Q-L527, or Q-L804, or you suspect you may belong here owing to your matches.

Y-haplogroup Q-L804 and Q-L527 were originally found in areas of the Nordic countries at around 1-2% of the population. For L527, the highest percentage has been found around the Götaland area of Sweden, and for L804, there is a high density in the Møre og Romsdal area of Norway.  Both branches of Q Nordic have since been identified in the United Kingdom, France, America (with ancestry from Europe), Germany (L804 only), Poland (L527), and the Scottish Islands including the Hebrides, Orkneys, and Shetlands. Q-L804 is the only Q Nordic branch which has so far been found in these Scottish Islands.  In Europe the percentage of Q Nordic is lower than in Scandinavia, being in general, less than 1% of the population. 

Original findings in Scandinavia: Denmark, Norway and Sweden, then later inn all Nordic countries including Iceland and Finland.

New: - United Kingdom/America, Scotland, Hebrides, Shetlands and Orkney Isles, Germany, France (Normandy) and Poland

We welcome all who have tested positive for Q-L527,or Q-L804, to become members of Q Nordic. Sometimes FTDNA will only predict people as haplogroup Q, so I would advise you to look at your matches, if you have a number that appear to be of a Nordic origin, then contact us and we can advise you, or join the project and we can then have a closer look at your results.


For other branches of haplogroup Q, you may find more relevant projects at FTDNA, though you are more than welcome to contact us for advice if you unsure of where you belong.

OVERVIEW

Q Y-DNA Nordic: In general, to join this project you should belong to the Y-DNA Q haplogroup and one of its subclades L527 or L804, but you may not always know this at the time of your test results, we can advise on any further tests you may need to define your branch of Q-M242 if your matches implicate this is where you may belong. You are also welcome if you are Q-M242 with origin from the Nordic or otherwise now related countries, or if you belong to the L940 subclade preceding L527 as the history of L940 in general is important for the Q Nordic project. 

      

All men with haplogroup Q from these and related areas are welcome members!

For other areas and other haplogroups there are other more relevant projects.

You will get continuous updates of the project status in our Facebook group. Please join it if you are on Facebook.

Q-L804:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/nordicq/

Q-L527:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/q.l527/

We will also inform you by email in our regular newsletter.


Two main branches of Q in the Nordic countries

The two main branches of Q (Q-M242) found in the Nordic countries are distinct, and have probably arrived here at different times.  They have SNP L56 in common, and are split by L53. The two braches are called Q-L527 and Q-L804, after its defining SNPs.

Branch Q-L527+

Q-F1161+/F1513+/L940+ 

(L527+ probable for all these, we need more tests to know) 

This group might have existed in the Nordic countries for a while. It is mainly found in Sweden and Eastern Norway.

Typical STR:

  • (Y12) DYS392=14-15,
  • (Y25) DYS454=12
  • (Y37) DYS607=15, DYS442=12-13, DYS438=12

Branch Q-L804+ 

This is most probably a younger group. It was initially found on the Norwegian west coast. The Q-L804 probably appeared in South-West Sweden (Götaland, area north of Gothenburg) about 3000 years ago. About 2000 years ago a sub-branch was established in Møre og Romsdal (MRO) at the Norwegian west coast and making the Western Branch of Q-L804. During viking age (800-1000 AD) men of the Western Branch migrated to Iceland, British Isles and Northern France.

Typical STR: 


  • (Y12) DYS392=12-13,
  • (Y25) DYS454=11
  • (Y37) DYS607=13, DYS442=11, DYS438=11

Simple SNP-chart of Q Nordic


ISOGG's page on Y-haplogroup Q.




Research

Gurianov et al. 2013. “Phylogenetic Structure of Q-M378 Subclade Based on Full Y-Chromosome Sequencing.” I: The  Russian  Journal  of Genetic Genealogy ISSN: 1920-2997 http://ru.rjgg.org
- paper on the M378 branch found in large Eurasian areas.

Links and Further Reading


Eupedia's page on Y-haplogroup Q http:/

www.davidkfaux.org/shetlandislandsY-DNA.html

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_Q_Y-DNA.shtml#Scandinavian_Q1a

Informasjon om haplogruppe Q på norsk fra Norway DNA.

http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/norwegians.html