Q Nordic

Haplogroup Q-M242 in Northern Europe
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About us

Welcome to the Q Nordic project!

Please join if you have tested positive for either Q-L527, or Q-L804, or you suspect you may belong here owing to your matches.

The Nordic Q-project started in July 2014, in order to explore the Nordic branches of Q and present test results from the members.  In order to discover more subclades and detailed branches we need more members to do the Big Y700 test. Upgrades using the Q-L804 SNP pack or Q-L527 SNP pack is also very welcome. The Q-L804 and Q-L527 was in the early days of DNA-testing found in Scandinavia (Iceland,  Norway and Sweden) and British Isles, then later inn all Nordic countries including Denmark and Finland. By 2019 the Q-L804 and Q-L527 was found in North America, Oceania, Africa, Asia, most of Europe north of the Alps and even Portugal. Most of the non-European is likely to have roots in Northern Europe c. 1800 and later.

We welcome all who have tested positive for Q-L527,or Q-L804, to become members of Q Nordic. Sometimes FTDNA will only predict people as haplogroup Q, so I would advise you to look at your matches, if you have a number of persons that appear to be of a Nordic or British origin , then contact us and we can advise you, or join the project and we can then have a closer look at your results.


For other branches of haplogroup Q, you may find more relevant projects at FTDNA, though you are more than welcome to contact us for advice if you unsure of where you belong.

OVERVIEW

Q Y-DNA Nordic: In general, to join this project you should belong to the Y-DNA Q haplogroup and one of its subclades Q-L527 or Q-L804, but you may not always know this at the time of your test results, we can advise on any further tests you may need to define your branch of Q-M242 if your matches implicate this is where you may belong. You are also welcome if you are Q-M242 with origin from the Nordic or otherwise now related countries, or if you belong to the L940 subclade preceding L527 as the history of L940 in general is important for the Q Nordic project. 

You will get continuous updates of the project status in our Facebook group. Please join it if you are on Facebook.


Q-L804:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/nordicq/

Q-L527:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/q.l527/

We will also inform you by email in our regular newsletter.


Two main branches of Q in the Nordic countries

The two main branches of Q (Q-M242) found in the Nordic countries are distinct, and have probably arrived in Scandinavia at different times.  The Q-L527 and Q-L804 have SNP L56 in common, and are split by L53. The two braches are called Q-L527 and Q-L804, after their defining SNPs.

Branch Q-L527+

Q-F1161+/F1513+/L940+ 

(L527+ probable for all these, we need more tests to know) 

This group might have existed in the Nordic countries for a while. It is mainly found in Sweden and Eastern Norway.

Typical STR:

  • (Y12) DYS392=14-15,
  • (Y25) DYS454=12
  • (Y37) DYS607=15, DYS442=12-13, DYS438=12

Branch Q-L804+ 

This is most probably a younger group. It was initially found on the Norwegian west coast. The Q-L804 probably appeared in South-West Sweden (Götaland, area north of Gothenburg) about 3000 years ago. About 2000 years ago a sub-branch was established in Møre og Romsdal (MRO) at the Norwegian west coast and making the Western Branch of Q-L804. During viking age (800-1000 AD) men of the Western Branch migrated to Iceland, British Isles and Northern France.

Typical STR values for Q-L804: 


  • (Y12) DYS392=12-13,
  • (Y25) DYS454=11
  • (Y37) DYS607=13, DYS442=11, DYS438=11

Simple SNP-chart of Q Nordic


ISOGG's page on Y-haplogroup Q.




Research

Gurianov et al. 2013. “Phylogenetic Structure of Q-M378 Subclade Based on Full Y-Chromosome Sequencing.” I: The  Russian  Journal  of Genetic Genealogy ISSN: 1920-2997 http://ru.rjgg.org
- paper on the M378 branch found in large Eurasian areas.

Dupuy et al., 2001, Y-chromosome variation in a Norwegian population sample, Forensic Sci. Int., 117 (2001), pp. 163-173

Als, T., Jorgensen, T., Børglum, A. et al. Highly discrepant proportions of female and male Scandinavian and British Isles ancestry within the isolated population of the Faroe IslandsEur J Hum Genet 14, 497–504 (2006). https://doi.org/10.1038/sj.ejhg.5201578

Allison Mann, (2012), Vikings, merchants, and pirates at the top of the world : Ychromosomal signatures of recent and ancient migrations in the Faroe Islands.
https://ir.library.louisville.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1900&context=etd

 
Lappalainen, T. (2006), Regional differences among the Finns: A Y-chromosomal perspective, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.gene.2006.03.004


Links and Further Reading



Eupedia's page on Y-haplogroup Q http:/

www.davidkfaux.org/shetlandislandsY-DNA.html

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_Q_Y-DNA.shtml#Scandinavian_Q1a

Informasjon om haplogruppe Q på norsk fra Norway DNA.

http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/norwegians.html