QUESTIONS on administrative policies, project eligibility, FTDNA account setup, eligibility for testing scholarships, and more.
- What is the origin and purpose of the project and who is eligible to join?
- I'm new to DNA and yDNA testing. Where can I learn more?
- I'm not eligible but I have Driscoll ancestry. Is there anything you can do for me?
- How much does a Y test cost?
- I'm eligible. How do I join?
- Based on my test, I believe I am a Driscoll. What if my last name is not eligible?
- Why do I have to be pre-approved?
- What should I do if I see the word NO when I try to access the project website?
- I have privacy concerns. Will my name and contact information be put on the Internet?
- How long does it take to get back test results?
- How is the project administered?
- Is the Driscoll DNA project affiliated with the annual June clan gathering?
- What do the administrators do to recruit for the project?
- I'd like to donate money to the project. Can the administrators steal my donation?
- I'd like to contribute genealogy research records to the website. How do I do this?
- What am I expected to know?
- What is the mailing list?
- Will you email a project member for me?
- Why don't I get emails from the project administrator or the project?
- How should I set up my FTDNA Profile?
- How do I set up my earliest paternal ancestor?
- How do I set up my results to be publicly viewable?
- How do I upload a family tree into my FTDNA account?
- How do I get my results included in the extensive analysis on the project website?
- What other projects should I join?
- How do I get my Driscoll family inquiry into a project publication?
- Can the project help me with genealogy research?
- I have two kits that should be merged / can't log in / have problems with my FTDNA account. Where do I get help?
- What are the eligibility criteria for a Y Test scholarship?
The Driscoll DNA project was launched around 2000 to complement the existing Driscoll research community on Rootsweb. The project website was maintained on Rootsweb until 2016, when it was relocated to a private ISP for more reliable hosting. The community mailing list was migrated off of Rootsweb also.
The purpose of the project is to help Driscolls in the Irish diaspora find their origins back in Ireland, to explore the deeper origins of the Driscolls in the context of Cork and Ireland history, and consequentially prove (or refute) some ancient Irish history texts. Our means to achieve that is by collecting and analyzing Y DNA.
Eligible men are named DRISCOLL or a historically related West Cork surname with West Cork paternal line ancestry. See SURNAMES. This genetic study is NOT a haplogroup (SNP) project, an autosomal DNA match project, or a mitochondrial DNA project.
Female relatives; autosomal transfer or FTDNA Family Finder testers may test and enroll an eligible male relative named Driscoll (or project-eligible last name) if they themselves are not eligible.
A Y test of 37 or more markers must be obtained or already have been obtained from FTDNA.
Y SNP transfers from Nat Geo, Living DNA, or other companies are not sufficient for eligibility.____________________________________
See our more extensive FAQ.____________________________________
We recommend that any researcher interested in Driscoll join the mailing list, which is our primary means of communication with project members as well as interested non-members.If you have a Driscoll family biography you'd like to put on the project website we can assist with that. Membership on the mailing list plus an introductory message by you sent to the list is required before we assist.
Any research inquiries should be posted to the mailing list.
See also: #25: What Other Projects to Join if you have a Family Finder test.____________________________________
See Part II, #4 on our extensive DNA testing FAQ.____________________________________
Complete the pre-approval form. Once it is completed you will get a summary of your submission that also contains instructions to complete your enrollment, which will be applicable to most. The project administrator will contact you in case of an exception.
If you click the FTDNA JOIN button on the project banner on the right without first submitting a pre-approval form, you will be redirected to the form.
To receive key project communications, membership is required on the Driscoll mailing list.____________________________________
Non paternity events (NPEs) happen to many of us, as well as name changes. You will need to provide additional details about your family and your yDNA results before you are admitted to the project.
The vast majority of Driscoll project members named DRISCOLL do not know how they are related to each other, even if their matches seem close. So, we demand extra information from you to make sure you already know how to get data out of your FTDNA account and that there are no false expectations of what the project can do.
You will NOT be admitted if:
- -- You haven't already fully tested out 111 markers.
- -- You don't have DRISCOLL matches at 67 markers or better.
- -- None of your DRISCOLL matches at 67 markers who have tested 111 markers appear as matches at 111 markers and there are no other DRISCOLL matches at 111 markers.
- -- You do not provide the information we ask for on the pre-approval form.
You will be referred to the relevant haplogroup project. Your matches will increase over time, and you may get DRISCOLL matches in the future who would qualify you if you are not qualified. We can reassess your eligibility when that happens.____________________________________
-- To show you understand project eligibility.
-- To show you understand the implications of yDNA testing, and that you are prepared to accept whatever happens.
-- To make sure you understand what we expect you to learn over time. See: "WHAT MEMBERS SHOULD KNOW" below.
-- To save administrators valuable TIME not having to repeat what is already here.
If you want assistance and you want your results to be included in more extensive analysis and considered in project recruitment efforts, you'll have to invest a little time learning something about DNA testing, you'll have to be forthcoming with your data and you'll have to cooperate with us.____________________________________
If you see NO when accessing a page on the project website, visit What is my IP address?, write down your IP address in dotted decimal format, then email Susan at firstname.lastname@example.org with your IP address for assistance.____________________________________
Only your earliest paternal ancestor, lineage, and yDNA values are ever published on the Internet if you choose to participate in more extensive analysis. Your results do not reveal any particular medical problems you might be experiencing. We don't publish a project member list. And when we publish your lineage on the project website, we won't publish the names of living people (you have every right to proof-read and approve what we put online).
We may, as part of our recruitment efforts, solicit particular members to publish their inquiries in an annual report that might be made available in certain locations in West Cork. In such cases, we would ask permission to publish a contact name and an email address.____________________________________
How long it will take to get your results is a matter of luck. It could take three weeks or six months. Expect results to take longer after a major sale.
The lab does misplace kits, so we strongly recommend using a postal tracking number on your kit so you'll know when it is delivered to the lab in Houston. You may need that information to show the lab that the kit was delivered.
When a test is in progress you may see a badge Awaiting Results in your account. Click on that to get a status update.
You can also click on Order History (left sidebar) to get a status.
If your test is delayed more than twice, it is recommended that you open a support request and ask about the cause of the delay. See: FTDNA Support below.____________________________________
Project administration is 100% volunteer work. The administrators receive no compensation from FTDNA.
We maintain these pages and those on the external project website. If you are interested in one day helping us administer the project, see this page for more details on what software tools we use.
We cooperate with haplogroup projects affiliated with Driscolls, and undertake promotional efforts. Those efforts have included publication of promotional materials and travel.
We have a life outside the Driscoll project, which is why your cooperation is vital and appreciated.____________________________________
The project does not have a close working relationship with the clan gathering. The main reason is travel.
Efforts to recruit by distributing brochures have not generally been successful.
Incidentally, the Driscolls do not have a bloodline chieftain. Our best family history data to date shows the chieftain line as "daughtered out." Of course, we keep hoping that a suitable male will turn up. See: Driscoll History on our website.____________________________________
Generally, we don't do much active recruitment as travel to Cork for project recruitment purposes is expensive, time consuming, and stressful.
Up to 2016 we have arranged to distribute project brochures at the annual clan gathering. During spring 2016, the project administrator traveled to Ireland, gave talks on DNA testing at the Cork Genealogical Society and the Skibbereen Genealogy Club, and recruited two Driscolls whose lineages had been actively researched.
Efforts have made to establish an understanding of DNA testing among interested parties at the Skibbereen Heritage Centre so as to spread knowledge. However, change comes slowly.
In an effort to broaden the member base of testers living in Ireland, the administrators have paid for tests on their own. However that effort is limited by available funds.____________________________________
Donations made to the project General Fund cannot be embezzled. Such funds must be used for Driscoll project testing.____________________________________
Contact Susan if you have material you'd like to contribute. Newspaper extracts are of particular value.
Many Cork church records are transcribed or they are poorly transcribed. There is ongoing activity to extract DRISCOLL and historically related West Cork surnames into spreadsheets, for further processing. The goal is to aggregate records into families. Contact Susan if you'd like to help.____________________________________
While we don't expect you to be an expert overnight, we DO expect you to develop understanding of the following, in roughly this order:
-- project eligibility
-- basic differences between DNA tests - refer to our testing FAQ if necessary
-- familiarity with the operation of your FTDNA accounts and account setup
-- project mailing list (all Driscoll researchers should join)
-- the necessity of family tree documentation INSIDE your FTDNA account
-- project web pages
Reading this FAQ is an excellent start. If you need guidance interpreting your Y results, you are expected to first read our testing FAQ, which also contains links to more resources.____________________________________
The mailing list embodies a research community that has grown to hundreds of members over many years. Several of these members are exceptionally good at research and enjoy helping others. In addition, key project communications about test results and project website updates are announced over this list.
Anyone interested in Driscoll research, whether an eligible project member or not, should join the list. Project members will miss key communications if they don't join. Follow this link for instructions: mailing list.____________________________________
The Driscoll project administrators are not an email forwarding service. We do not pass along messages from non-members to members or between non-matching members. Post a message to the mailing list if you have a question.____________________________________
Make sure email with the addresses of FTDNA (familytreedna.com), the administrator and co-administrator are not getting filed into your spam folder.____________________________________
In your Profile, under About Me, state who you are and where your Driscoll lineage was from. If you are not the tester, state how you are related to the tester.
If you are supervising the test for someone else, enter the tester's name (or first initial and surname), then for middle name, enter C/O Your Name. Example: John C/O Jane Smith Driscoll.____________________________________
Access Account Settings | Genealogy | Most Distant Ancestor
When you see this screen, under Ancestral Locations, then Direct Paternal, click Update Location.
Enter the name of your earliest known direct paternal ancestor, an approximate birth date, and a location.
Example: Martin Hanrahan b.c. 1800 England l. Hamilton Co, Ohio
Enter a known location for your paternal ancestor. You can use the location search tool built into FTDNA, or you can customize your own latitude and longitude by using a tool such as iTouchMap to zoom to and get the coordinates of your own location. If your ancestor came from a townland with a frequently used name (e.g., Scart) please customize it.
If you want to participate in the extensive results analysis on the project website, go into Privacy Settings and check the box Share My Most Distant Ancestor.
Access Privacy Settings | Who can view my DNA results in group projects? If you want your results to be included in extensive results analysis and group promotional efforts, set your results so they are publicly viewable.
You can use the built-in editor to create a family tree if you want. However, it is far more efficient to produce a GEDCOM file externally and upload it into your FTDNA account.
To export a GEDCOM file out of Ancestry.com:
- Log in to your Ancestry account.
- Under Family Trees, click the tree to export.
- Under Tree Settings, view Manage your tree.
- Click where it says Export Tree.
- Save the GEDCOM file on your computer.
To create a GEDCOM file from scratch, try one of the following programs:
- MyHeritage Tree Builder (free)
- GenealogyJ (free)
- Personal Ancestral File (free for Macs; no longer supported)
- Ancestral Quest
- Legacy Family Tree (compatible with Family Search Family Tree)
- Family Tree Maker (Ancestry.com product; support outsourced)
To upload your GEDCOM, in your FTDNA account, click myFamilyTree. Click the Upload GEDCOM icon then choose the GEDCOM file on your computer to upload it.
To adjust the privacy settings on your family tree, click the Cog wheel where it says Settings:
Suggested privacy settings on your family tree are -
- Deceased people born 100+ years ago - PUBLIC
- Deceased people born in the last 100 years - MATCHES
- Living people - MATCHES____________________________________
If you've filled out a pre-approval form giving permission for us to use your data, you have set up your account as described in 20-23, AND - you have done sufficient testing of 67 markers or more if you fall within haplogroup I-PF4135 or 37 markers of more with haplogroup R-CTS4466 - your results will be automatically included in our analysis. Eventually, this restriction will be tightened and I-PF4135 members will need 67 markers. Driscoll members falling outside thse two haplogroups should test at least 37 markers.
Your family tree in FTDNA needs to be a helpful one, with names, dates and places. Otherwise your kit will not have a dedicated page and your sample will not be included in our extensive analysis.____________________________________
Since the Driscolls ruled the Corca Laidhe territory, members should join the Corca Laidhe project. Any man with a historically related project surname with West Cork paternal ancestry should do likewise.
Members are encouraged to join at least one haplogroup project. Haplogroup project administrators may prefer members who have tested 67 STR markers or better and may expect you to undergo and therefore financially commit to further SNP testing.
FTDNA makes a high level haplogroup prediction when you STR test. If you are part of a group of matches, chances are somebody in the group has undergone further SNP testing, so it may not be necessary for you to do so. Rather than encourage individual single SNP testing or SNP panel testing, our project administration policy is to encourage members of a group to pool financial resources and select one representative of that group to undergo a comprehensive deep SNP test. In such a case, the administrators might be able to assist with funds for such a test. For financial assistance, priority is given to project members named DRISCOLL, who have already fully tested 111 markers and who publicly share results. However, individuals are free to undergo further SNP testing as they wish.
See the project LINKS (in the left sidebar) for haplogroup and regional projects relevant to Driscolls.
If you have taken the Family Finder test (or transferred over autosomal results from elsewhere), and have Cork ancestry, consider joining the Cork Ireland project, which accepts Family Finder. The project also accepts any yDNA and mtDNA with Cork ancestry. Ireland mtDNA will accept mtDNA tests with Irish maternal ancestors. If your Driscoll ancestor emigrated several generations ago, and your family history is out in the diaspora, look for a regional autosomal project or consider starting one yourself.____________________________________
We feel there is a need for a publication on the genetic history of the O'Driscolls as it will help advertise and promote the project. We hope to get it into the Cape Clear Library and the Museum.
The idea is to reserve an appendix in the publication for those project members who are extra-stuck on their family trees, or have no Y matches, and would like an inquiry published.
Your inquiry entry should include a contact name and email address. Note that taking this step removes you from the anonymity we structure within the project and exposes you to the world. It is entirely optional. Eligible members will be contacted before finalizing any publication and asked if they would like an inquiry included.____________________________________
The project administrator (Susan)has access to resources at the headquarters LDS Family History Library (Family Search), including their subscriptions to Ancestry and to Find My Past. If you email Susan a Driscoll-relevant reference from the catalog, she will try to retrieve the record for you (free of charge). The reference could be on film or in a book or journal.
Because of the time required, this FREE research is reserved solely for Driscoll records for yDNA testers.____________________________________
Project administrators cannot recover your password for you. They can only tell you the contact emails on an account but cannot alter that contact information. You'll need to click "Forgot Your Password?" on the login page.
Open a support request at FTDNA if you want to merge two kits or have other problems with your accounts.____________________________________
Unconditional free tests are not given at DNA shows. We no longer offer Y37 scholarships, as they provide too little data.
If the tester has no email and Internet access, and he has no relatives with Internet access supervising his participation, the project administrator will make sponsorship decisions on an individual case basis.
We may offer partial funding on a Y111 test (approximately 50/50), subject to the terms and conditions below. If insufficient funds are available by October 1, no testing grant opportunities will be announced for the year.The process below is designed to safeguard project funds and guarantee the project gets both family tree and genetic data for its time and financial commitment. If this process is not acceptable to you, then do not apply.
You are known only by your sample number, test results, and family history. Your name and contact information are NEVER publicly revealed.
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