Haplogroup E-M96 > E-M44

E-M44 (usually yDNA DYS391=9 and DYS392=12) Formerly E1a1
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6/2018: The below tree represents the Big Y testing by members of the E-M44 Project,  analyzed by ISOGG and Yfull.com.  Additional single SNP testing was done at Yseq.com and FTDNA


To view the resulting Yfull.com E tree, go to their page and scroll down to E-M44.   Included are testees other than our members.  Notice the origin countries, and clickable INFO giving calculations.  Also mouse over the "formed" and "TMRCA" for further information.



Below is the 10/2019 related FTDNA tree. It is not yet as expanded as the Yfull.com tree which also shows aging.


M96 More...
  P147 More...
    M132 More..

       Z965 More.

         M44 (CTS3507 L632 L634) (formerly E1a1)

            BY4820      

              Z17699
              |    Z17698
Z17697 Z17700 
              |     |     Z17696

              |     |     |      Y35994

              |     |     Y80883  

              |     A7710 
              |           Z38881 
              |           Z36092 

              Z17467 
              |     Z31503   
PHELPS Branches are below.
              |     |    A6108

              |     |    |      BY22797

              |     |    BY4136

              |     |     |     BY4135

              |     |     FGC67854

              |     |           A10152

              |     Z20650 
              |     Y20219 

              |      |    Y33591   Hall branch

              |      Z20646
              Z31498  More

                 Z31497  


TO APPEAR ON THE FTDNA TREE, AT LEAST TWO FTDNA MEMBERS MUST BE POSITIVE FOR THE SNP .



2016:  For the latest information about new SNPs and related subgroups, including aging of the E subroups,  which are based on Big Y tests, analyzed by YFULL,  go to our page:  

E1a1/M44 Project Testing Providing New Subclades and Terminal SNPs 

We are now seeing that Subclade Z20697 is comprised of men with origins in central and eastern Europe.  SNP Z20697, upstream of Z20596, is less well defined.

We also consider Subclade Z20646 to be of Sub-Saharan African origins.   DYS447=25and DYS385a=16 are the markers that seem to indicate recent African heritage. Of course, "recent" could be 300 or more years.  If someone only has 1 of the 2 marker values, which is the case with 3 members,then their ancestral background in Africa may be more distant than the others.  They should test for the SNP.



 Fall, 2014]

ISOGG  (Ray Banks) wrote “My impression is that one SNP in Big Y represents about 125 yrs.”   Years per snp was mention Roberta Estes who wrote “… using the 150 years per SNP mutation comes up with.  This estimate is just that, devised by the haplogroup R-U106 project administrators, and others,based on their project findings.  150 years is actually the high end of the estimate, 98 being the lower end.  Of course, different haplogroups may vary and these results are very early.”

2016:  Yfull.com is using 144 years as a base in its algorithm.




1/2015 comment from Ray of ISOGG - REGARDING THE CRITERIA TO BE ADDED TO THE ISOGG TREE:

His "targeted testing" requirements for creating a new subgroup, begin with using eligible snps from a BIG Y/Bam test. Isogg needs " to have a second man fairly near to you in marker values but not a relative.  He must have at least five [5] marker values different at 67 markers to qualify.  But once a man has 10 or more markers different, the chances of him sharing one of your new SNPs randomly chosen significantly diminishes and the cost of testing lots of SNPs can become quite expensive.  [View the below table showing GD at 67 markers.]   ISOGG criteria requires this 5 marker values diversity  in the two men validating a new subgroup."  See this ISOGG site for full details of his standard  Big Y analysis

The criteria for a new subgroup is that the men have 5 or more markers different.  This requirement is fairly good assurance that it moves the common male ancestor ofthe subgroup prior to 1500 which is the boundary line at ISOGG between familial SNPs and more general SNPs.






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