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CYRIAC FAMILY HISTORY PROJECT NEWS (Chronological most ancient first)
-5th century
Page 22 of Paul Sire's "KING ARTHUR'S EUROPEAN REALM, New Evidence from
Monmouth's Primary Sources" book has:
"In the 5th century BC, Herodotus described the Sarmatians as the
descendants of Scythian fathers and Amazon mothers. ... They became the
Sauromatians who lived on the plains between the Black and Caspian seas.
..."
Until DNA discoveries find a link going back to 'other' Celtic ancestors
before this and pending current DNA confirmation of our 'discoverable' links
to this area of the world, Ben Ciriacks believes that our oldest and most
recent 'discoverable' family ancestry does lie in this area of the
'Caucasian' world.
-1st century
-1+ centuries - Any pre-Christian era data relevant to the spelling of our
family name and its usage as such would disassociate it from having been
created in conjunction with the formation of Christianity. The primary
example of what is being talked about can be found by clicking KYRIOS.
1st century
44 - Within a decade or two of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, Greeks,
greek speaking Jews and others gather together in Antioch to begin
organizing what will become Christianity - the term =Kupiako=Kyriakou, if
not already a family name of the era, may have been invented simultaneous
with the ancient term for Christianity and the CHI-RHO Sigla (local
discussion page) by these organizers. [ None of these organizers may have
witnessed the crucifixion or even talked with anyone who had. ]
70 - an underground cemetery exists in Jerusalem which has symbology
identified with the earliest beginnings of Christianity. It is discovered
in the middle of the 20th century. Engraved onto one of the tombstone
slabs is the earliest evidence of icon for Christ, the Chi-Rho symbol, aka
the Chi-Rho sigla.
2nd century
May 4, 133 - A Quiriacus is said to have suffered martyrdom in Hadrian's
reign in Jerusalem. He and the 4th century Bishop of Ancona of similar
name and association with Jerusalem are often confused with each other.
(See Quiriacus and Jerusalem.)
3rd century
225 - Gallienus Quiriacus is recognized as the senior royal heir while
serving as Prefect of Provence.
The first reference to any form of the spelling of our family surname
comes within the first two decades of the 3rd century when Clement of
Alexandria ( Christian_cross (Wikipedia site) ) uses in a discussion of
symbols used by the earliest Christians.
late 2nd ~ early 3rd century- Author Sextus Julius Africanus uses the term
desposyni when referring to members of the family of the Savior, Jesus
Christ. Others have referenced Kyriakou named individuals as part of this
family. See the discussion at our Uncle Jesus page.
The House of Cyriac is very active in Christian history within the tumultuous Period of
Military Anarchy encompassing half of the 3rd century.
Bishop Cyprian of Carthage (200~9/14/258) is a prolific writer whose
documents were not destroyed for them not all being in Rome at the time of
the Final Great Persecution (303~310±). In other words, his recordings of
events in the forms of letters to other notables in the Mediterranean area
provide us with some of the details about those events.
4th century
August 8, 303 - one of several dates associated with our Cyriacus at the
Baths (of Diocletian).
A patrician family reference regarding Cyriacus at the Baths (of
Diocletian).
June 16 & July 15, 303/4/? - Dates associated with the child and his
mother, Cyr and Julitta, martyred in the area of Tarsus and whose
legend(s) were brought back to France and England by the Crusaders.
circa 300~334 - Historia ecclesiastica ... (Eusebius c263~5/30/339)
circa 314 - De mortibus persecutorum (Lactantius 250~321?)
Depositio Martyrum prepared as part of the Chronographer of A.D. 354 which
re-created the records of the Church in Rome that were destroyed during
the Final Great Persecution (303~310±).
An unknown, earliest greek source for various martyrologies
(mis)translated (and embellished) into various other languages over time -
with many of those translations, especially from the easy to mistranslate
latin, being further misinterpreted and/or embellished with fictional
'improvements' over the centuries. The CatholicEncyclopedia Martyrology
says the original greek narrative was written in Nicomedia, Now known as
Izmit (Turkey), Nicomedia was the Capitol of the Roman Empire at the end
of the 3rd and beginning of the 4th centuries. The original greek
narrative of the 'acts of the saints' was most likely instigated by
Constantine during his reign from 306~337 after he had legalized
Christianity and encouraged its rebirth from the ashes of the Final Great
Persecution (303~310±).
May 4, 361 - Date of commemoration/(martyrdom) for St. Cyriacus (the
converted former Jewish official of Jerusalem) - he possibly one of first
persons of the newly legalized Christian Church of Rome to take the name
of the martyr associated with the Titulus assigned to him upon his
ascension to become Bishop of Ancona in the mid-4th century. He is also
mis-associated with the 2nd century Bishop of Jerusalem of similar name
who may have been a Desposynic member of the family of Jesus. [ The
limited number of Tituli are now routinely assigned to some newly promoted
Cardinals who also become part of the college assigned to elect new Popes
- the Cardinal designation was yet to be assigned to these high ranking
Bishops in the early 4th century. ]
The CYRIACEV reference located in Aquila, Italy found prior to 1972 by
James Henry Cyriax was found online early in the 21st century.
5th century
See the 1/22/14: Paul Sire guestbook entry regarding the connection of
our family name to the Arthurian history/legend. 5th & 6th centuries
overview
September 29 - Cyriakus/Kypiakos/Ruhan (Anchorite, hegumenos, hermit,
Recluse of Souka, 'benefactor of the Church Nea of Theotokos, Jerusalem',
Wanderer), born 448 in Corinth, Greece; died (September 29), 557 (108+
years old); writer/transcriber who may be associated with many of the
texts regarding ancient Christianity and the Middle East.
Acta Cyriaci (latin) or ... (greek) may be about Cyriacus at the Baths and
the post-death, pre-beatification, 'saintly' influence he had on Judas
Cyriaci/Cyriacus/Quiriacus (the early 4th century Jew) and possibly
others. (We have yet to see the full text, in any language, of the whole
Acta Cyriaci.)
Hieronymian_Martyrology (Wikipedia site) which, according to
CatholicEncyclopedia Martyrology was NOT written by St. Jerome but was
written before the 6th century and comes from some earlier Greek source.
(See 4th century, immediately above.)
6th century
See the 1/22/14: Paul Sire guestbook entry regarding the connection of
our family name to the Arthurian history/legend. 5th & 6th centuries
overview
536 - Around this time something happened to cause an almost century long
era of global cooling - possibly a very large volcanic eruption
(?Krakatau?)) that spewed so much dust into the air that the world-wide
climate was affected.
September 29 - Kypiakos the Anchorite (448~557) (see 5th Century, above)
Heryaqos of Oxyrhynchus (Al-Bahnasa) [ Some of the authors included
with variations of our family surname may or may not also have had the
research of family genealogy as part of their writing endeavours. ]
The Sire book has (page 80) has:
founded by a 6th-century monk called Quirce and the above-mentioned St.
Quirce villages are located between the two mountain sanctuaries that
are mentioned in the Romance of Melusine ...
7th century
625~638 - Sometime during his pontificate, Pope Honorius I built a small
church over the site of Cyriacus at the Baths (of Diocletian) grave ?on
the Via Ostiensis? (source)
8th century
Bede (Beda) c673~5/26/735 is said to have written about the more prominent
members of the family in Rome - the actual writings have yet to be
discovered anywhere. Bede may have had DNA connections to the family.
9th century
898 [Sire book] - a church (St. Quirce de Pedrer or St. Quirce de Besora)
is consecrated in the Ausona & Urgell area with the charter signed by a
notable called Quiricus - this is all the new hearland of the Grail
Family.
885 June 16 - Total Eclipse of the Sun (5 minutes) on the feast of St.
Cirici [ Sire book pp 60~1 ]
Martyrology of Ado (of Vienne c???~12/16/874) is another written source
that has yet to be discovered.
843 ~ 859 circa [Sire book] Cult of St. Cyr that had been suppressed by
the Merovingians in France is
revived during the time of the Carolingians when the relics of the saint
were taken from the Church of St. Amator, at Auxerre, to Nevers. This
"revival" seems closely related to the family of King Giric, although
the Church of Nevers was dedicated to the saint just before King Giric's
reign. A document from the cartulary of the church, which mentions a
Bishop "Heriman," tells us that it must be dated sometime between 843
and 859, and the bishop's name provides a vital clue for tracing the
"Grail Family." The Church of Nevers had previously been dedicated to
St. Gervasius, who is also mentioned in the founding document of St.
Cyr. ...
817 - Pope Paschal I transfers Cyriacus at the Baths relics from their
location on the Via Ostiense. (source) And, his cult (of the saints)
spreads to Bamberg, Neuhausen in Worms and Speyer. (source)
10th century
993 - Cyriacus at the Baths' (of Diocletian) patronage of the St. Cyriak
Monastery in Sulzburg is recorded in the Breisgau. (source)
974 - The Abbaye saint Cyriaque d'Altorf is consecrated. (source)
961 circa - St. Cyriacus at Gernrode 1 2 3 4 church is built by
Margrave Gero. This appears to be the FIRST concrete evidence of the
official recognition of Cyriacus in the area that is now Germany. We
suspect that the family fled Rome and the Final Great Persecution at the
beginning of the 4th century - with a significant portion maybe settling
in this then still outside the control of the Roman Empire area. It's
likely that the family promoted the memory of their most honored member -
Cyriacus at the Baths (of Diocletian).
930 [Sire book] - The Viscount of Scarlarum references his brother-in-law,
Viscount Odo (Odolrici of Santo Cirico) in a will in the Rocamadour area
300 miles south of Auxerre in Lot. (St. Cyr of Rocamadour also
referenced.)
11th century
early - Emperor Basil II (976~1025) orders a revision of the Synaxarion
first prepared in the previous century (per Synaxarium (Wikipedia site) )
1049 - The Abbaye saint Cyriaque d'Altorf receives its required relic from
Pope Leo IX, grandson of the founder of the monastery. (source)
1096 - Pope Urban II calls for the First Crusade.
... poor church of St. Cyriacus is referenced in an unattributed source
document associated with Sicily or an unnamed site near Jerusalem and the
Crusades of the era.
12th century
An unknown author prepares a written Ciriaci martyrology reference. The
front and back of a leaf from the 12th century manuscript in the
Fragmenta Manuscripta collection
Special Collections and Rare Books
Ellis Library
University of Missouri was uploaded as part of a blog posting on August 8th, 2012.
1199 - Friderik of Ptuj defeats the Hungarians in a battle named after the
day it was fought, Velika Nedelja (Great Sunday or Easter).
Nedelja/Nedelya/Nedjelja is equivalent to Kyriaki/Kiriaki.
13th century
1226 ~ 1266 - Csorna, Hungary becomes a significant locale associated with
our family history. "... hero soldier Vezekényi Zyriacus, ancestor of the
Cziraky family" is granted lands in the area of what is now called Cirák
(and probably the neighboring Dénesfa) - the community had been called
Czirák until 20th century Hungarian language changes transpired.
Cyriaxweimar (Wikipedia site) has:
" Cyriax Weimar was first mentioned in 1258 as Ciliacis Wymaare."
4/4/10: Hessen Register der Ortsnamen has Cyriaxweimar (Landkreis
Marburg-Biedenkopf) referenced for both Sente Cyliacs Wymar & Sente
Cyriakis Wymere. Bauerbach_(Marburg) (Wikipedia site) has the closest
Saint Cyriakus church found, so far, in the immediate area of
Cyriaxweimar. (See the Germany locale entry for other Cyriax & Cyriaxhof
locales, the latter in the Cyriaxweimar area.)
2/25/09: Its location near Marburg is confirmed in a news report of an
automobile accident discovered via Google Alert.
August 11th, 2010: A german to english translation of the
Gnadenaltar 14 Holy Helpers page for Heiliger Cyriacus brings us the
following information:
his relics were dispersed to various European churches from the
10th century onward;
his tomb was originally located on the Via Ostia in Rome;
the Battle of Mühlberg was fought on Cyriakus Day 1266 [ August
8th - Another source refers to it as the famous battle of Cyriakus
near Sulzfeld ];
he is a patron saint for wine in the Palatinate region;
he is greatly revered in the Central and Upper Rhine region;
Bamberg Cathedral holds an arm relic.
List_of_battles_(alphabetical) Coordinates (all North and East):
Badon 51º23' 2º21'44
WestBergtheim 49º54' 10º04'
Estenfeld 49º50' 10º01'
Gramschatz 49º56' 9º58'
Kitzingen 49º44' 10º10'
Mühlberg 49º49' 10º01'
Poland 52º 19º
Red Cross Cyriaci
Ptuj 46º25' 15º52'
Sulzfeld- 49º42' 10º07'
Wurzburg 49º48' 9º56'
WestBergtheim 49º54' 10º04'
Estenfeld 49º50' 10º01'
Gramschatz 49º56' 9º58'
Kitzingen 49º44' 10º10'
Mühlberg 49º49' 10º01'
Poland 52º 19º
Red Cross Cyriaci
Ptuj 46º25' 15º52'
Sulzfeld- 49º42' 10º07'
Wurzburg 49º48' 9º56'
HISTORIC BATTLES - The history written about these events can be a
good source for other information about Cyriac (et al spellings)
named individuals associated with them.
[ Ben Ciriacks thoughts: The proximity of both Cyriacus de Serna (1226)
and Zyriacus (1265) in both time and place just has to be more than
coincidence - the former could have been referencing the world (and
12th+ century Battles/Crusades) famous Cyriacus at the Baths (of
Diocletian) and the latter a descendent of the same family from whence
that historically, politically, culturally and religiously significant
saint came. This family is a very likely the 'moving force' behind the
naming of Dénesfa/Denesfa, Cirák/Cirak AND Csorna, Hungary. ]
Jacobus de Voragine 1230~1298 researches available, often contradictory
documents to put together copious notes for what is eventually published
(after the printing press is invented two centuries later) as The Golden
Legend: Readings on the Saints. His writings became 'role modeling'
narratives read aloud from pulpits and provided the basis for more
scholarly research into the histories of the individuals about whom those
stories were written.
14th century
1300 Pope Boniface VIII decares a jubilee year - motivating the
development of pilgrim (tourist) sites in Rome, including possibly those
associated with the Chapel of Cyriacus at the Baths located directly
across the street from the Baths of Diocletian (ruins) and the 'exorcism
legend' plaque thereat seen by Friar Capgraye 150 years later.
John of Tynemouth (1290~c1349) researches the available and often
contradictory documents, including Voragine's, to gather together what is
eventually published a century and a half later as Nova Legenda Anglie -
it contains lives of saints specifically relevant to what is later
referred to as Great Britain.
15th century
Johannes_Gutenberg (Wikipedia site) "(c. 1398 - February 3, 1468) was a
German goldsmith and printer who is credited with being the first to use
movable type printing, in around 1439, and the global inventor of the
mechanical printing press."
In other words, it wasn't until the middle of the 15th century that
scholars had an efficient and affordable method of communicating
information to the 'greater masses' of interested readers, including the
works of Jacobus de Voragine and John of Tynemouth of the prior two
centuries - and Friar Capgrave of the same mid-15th century era.
1424 November - Ciriaco de' Pizzicolli (aka Cyriacus of Ancona)
Family Historians leaves Ancona for his first trip to Rome and
subsequently writes (and no doubt talks extensively) about the
devastation, mindless destruction and benign AND MALIGN neglect he,
himself witnessed thereat. Thereafter and thereby motivating the
actions of countless other leading decision makers and resource
controllers of that era and up to the present day. To preserve the
antiquity of Rome (and elsewhere around the Mediterranean) that had
not already been forever lost became his mission. That mission
probably motivated his own scholarly research, archaeological and
(presumed) genealogical efforts throughout the Mediterranean Area
for the rest of his life.
1450c - Ye Solace of Pilgrimes - A Description of Rome, circa A.D. 1450,
by John Capgrave, an Austin Friar of King's Lynn is initially published
anonymously and not attributed to Friar Capgrave until the beginning of
the 20th century. In any case, it is probably the first serious scholarly
work attempting to detail the lives of the saints according to what was
more 'inscribed in stone' (plaques, inscriptions and engravings found in
Rome during its Jubilee year, 1450) than what was passed along from mouth
to mouth over the previous 11+ centuries.
William Granger Ryan's May 1992 Introduction to his english translation
of The Golden Legend ... (2nd paragraph of page xiv) mentions that
William Caxton, in his 1483 published 'other' english translation of the
Legend, "mentions as his sources an earlier English translation, now
unknown, a French version, and a Latin edition. .... That earlier
English translation is most probably the Ye Solace of Pilgrimes ...
source documents gathered together by fellow Englishman and scholar John
Capgrave.
1470 - The Golden Legend: Readings on the Saints by Jacobus de Voragine is
first published and becomes a 'best seller' (after the bible, of course)
of the middle ages.
1475c - Nova Legenda Anglie by John of Tynemouth is first published (via
the newly invented printing process).
1483 - The Golden Legend or Lives of the Saints as Englished by William
Caxton (see the notes at 1450c, above.)
16th century
The patriarch(s) of the Bremen descended
Ciriacks/Cyriacks/Sierachs/Ziriacks/et al families settle in the areas
surrounding Bremen to the north, east and south. The 100 years war and others in Europe
destroyed most church and other 'official', genealogically useful records.
Finding legitimate bloodline connections earlier than the 15th century
will most likely depend upon records in private hands.
1537 - The earliest ?known? Cyriacks ancestor in the Bremen area of
Germany is born in Baden - the church is then located in Verden. This
discovery comes in February 2015 from a facebook posting by Mathias
Steinke (who states that he shares many of our ancestors in the Bremen
area) pointing us to this Die-Maus web site.
1560+-: Martyrologium Romanum ... ?updated/published? by Pope Gregory
(1502~1585)
Cyriacus Kale becomes prominent and associated by name(s) with interesting
tidbits regarding our family history.
Acta Sanctorum (47 volumes)
17th century
1677 - ... Saints Cyriak & Perpetua church in Lehen (Freiburg-im-Breisgau)
is set in place at the site of the original church destroyed in 1677
during the Dutch War of 1672~1678.
18th century
Lives of the Saints (Alban Butler 1710~1773)
Nov. 1, 1768 - The earliest found Cyr.. in the USA is Samuel Cyriaci.
Brothers (Johann) Hinrich (1745~1807) and Christoffer (1755~1838) CIRIACKES migrate
from one of the many Bremen, Germany area populated suburbs, Daverden, to
London and initiate that short lived spelling of our surname.
19th century
1866+ Eldest brother Johann (1841~1931) stays in Baden to inherit the
family farm his father had recently acquired through marriage. Younger
brother Hinrich (1846~1914) is the first to migrate to the USA after its
Civil War is over and settles in Wisconsin around 1970. Brune (1848~1910)
is next to come over and settles in Nebraska. Friedrich (Fred 1855~1944)
is next and tries farming in various states before settling in Minnesota.
The last to arrive is Hermann (1861~1878+) who disappears after short
visits with his older brothers.
20th century
1903 - Pilgrim _ Walks in Rome by P. J. Chandlery is published containing
several detailed Cyriaca/us references.
1910~1940 - Hollywood Fred Cyriacks arrives in the USA and initiates one
of the most interesting lives reflected at this family history project web
site. [ See the Chronology section at his separate web site for the dates
from the late 18th century to the present which relate to his life and
activities. ]
1938 July 24 - West Bend, Wisconsin Matriarch Emilie (Wendt) Ciriacks'
birthday is the occasion for a family reunion at the Kleman farm; 16
members of the Hinrich Ciriacks (1846~1914) descended family are reflected
in a picture taken at the time (mouseover the date see it to the right):
Theodore & Elizabeth Schmidt
Theodore & Adela Kleman
John & Mary (Homrig) Ciriacks
Herman & Adela (Krueger) Ciriacks
William & Alma (Koepke Klein) Ciriacks
Henry & Augusta (Semrow Stark) Ciriacks
Alfred & Bertha (Maas) Ciriacks
Edwin & daughter Elaine - [wife Diana (Oelke) was home with baby Ken]
Bernhard & Olive (Werner) Ciriacks were not in this picture.
1941 December 7 - Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, USA Glenn Gerald Cyriack, 20 year
old member of our Nebraska Branch Family dies in the attack that
precipated the US entry into World War Two (II).
December 9, 1967 - Bremen-Lesum area Cyriac family genealogist Helmut
Cyriacks communicates with nearby Osterholz-Scharmbeck area Zulich family
genealogist and (probable distant cousin) Dr. Karl Zulch regarding some
variations in the spelling of the family surname.
August 30 (largerCollage) and September 6, 1969 (no photos) - The
initial meetings in Jackson/West Bend, Wisconsin take place and lead to
the establishment of the Cyriac Family History Project. The 300 page
Family History is published and contains personal narratives from the
various branches throughout the USA and some of their relatives in
Germany. By the 1990s, after the internet becomes available to almost
everyone, this web site is created. The trunk (story) brought to the
(unphotographed) September 6th meeting becomes the catalyst for all of the
research reflected in these pages and in the privately published Family
History.
August 1970 Artesian Lake reunion at Jackson, WI is our first, 'major'
and very well attended family reunion since the Family History Project
began. It was held at that same Artesian Lake public picnic grounds
(honor system donations) controlled by Uncle Pete.
1972 August 8 - Professor James Henry Cyriax of Great Britain responds to
a family history inquiry with significant items of intelligence he had
gathered over the decades - many of which were confirmed (and amplified)
with pictures and web sites not created until four decades later in the
21st century.
1992 - Jacobus de Voragine -- The Golden Legend - Readings on the Saints
-- Translated by William Granger Ryan, Volumes I & II, 1992, Princeton
University Press, NJ, contains several Cyriacus named individuals.
1999 May 30 - Ancona's St. Cyriacus Cathedral hosts the annual visit and
address by Pope John Paul II to the clergy, religious and lay
representatives of the Archdiocese of Ancona-Osimo. See the 4th Century,
above and for more about the significance of Ancona (Wikipedia site) to
our family history project (local web page) .
21st century
Beginning at the end of the 20th century, this single surname family
history study web site is begun to document this all and pass it along to
posterity. The three main sub-sections of this voluminous (295 .htm pages
as of 3/7/2012) single surname family history study web site are:
Organizations and entities all over the world are posting information on
the internet - much of which is highly relevant to and now referenced at
this single surname family history study web site. Gmail and its 'Alerts'
function helps find them as they are discovered by the Google search
engine.
GUESTBOOK ENTRIES FROM PRIOR NOW DEFUNCT WEB SITE
Date & time received
Name
Email address
City, State, Country
How'd you find us?
April 17 ~ May 21, 2014
Brad Bell
email this guestbook participant
?Los Angeles, CA?
accidentally
1940 Fred Cyriacks'
Whipple Street mansion #1 of 2
1972 Fred Cyriacks' Whipple Street mansion
#1 of 2 just prior to demolition
1946+ Fred Cyriacks' Lankershim Blvd mansion
#2 of 2 living room
(Click any of the pictures to see their full size)
COMMENTS:
5/21/14: ... Yes you can include my name in your guest book. I talked
to Bela Lugosi Jr. briefly last month--he lived off and on at the house
for a couple of years. He has very little memory of the home. ... I came
home for Christmas from college in 1971. I spent a few days at the
Whipple St home. By about June on 1972, when I came home from college for
summer vacation, my mom had moved to a place called Horace Heidts. The
Whipple home was torn down about Feb or March of 1972.
5/19/2014: Sorry for the delay. ... First photo 10841 Whipple about
1940.
Second ... the (private) house next door--the living room, obviously
before they lived there.
Third attachment is 10841 Whipple in its final days. [ 1972? ]
I had some other photos but when I click on them they're blank.
Regards, Brad
4/17/14 [ notes from our telephone conversation ]:
semi-circular courtyard in 2nd mansion - Brad thinks Fred 'built' both;
only 2nd has associated, small cottages - no cottages at first; [ The
"guest cottages" referenced in the 1972 era newspaper article interview
of Brad's Mother may have been sold off to the Lankershim mansion
neighbor before 1956 when Brad was a small child. ]
couldn't see the 2nd mansion from Lankershim; a side entry off Whipple
was used as the primary entryway but address was on Lankershim and that
entryway was hardly ever used by the residents;
Flying-A > Phillips 66 > tire store was always at the corner; the
Lankershim mansion was behind it and between the service station and the
'guest cottages/apartments' and the first 1919 custom built Whipple
Street mansion; [ Until this conversation with Brad, I had thought that
the tire store was built atop the Lankershim mansion footprint. ]
Universal Star market in the area - Brad is still friends with former
entrepreneur owners;
back to back mansions - side yards includes two old 2 story apt bldgs
maybe '300 ft' from one mansion to the other; [ This is what made it
relatively easy to sell those 'guest cottages' and the land atop which
they sat to the adjoining Lankershim Mansion property owner. ]
no spiral staircase in 2nd house only in first;
fancy swastikas (possibly old 'Indian/native-American symbols'
pre-dating their usage by the Nazi Party of Germany) in 2nd mansion
recreation room - NOT in first where Brad lived;
he will email his pics (some originals of what we have online) within
next couple weeks or so.
4/17/14: Hi Ben,
My name is Brad Bell. I lived in this house from 1953 until it was
demolished in early 1972. Interesting story on how I came to contact you.
Call me if you like at (818)-(private) That's my work number.
• chronology • guestbook & (names) • HollywoodFred • kyrios
Date & time received
Name
Email address
City, State, Country
How'd you find us?
Surname spelling(s)
2-22-2014 6:41 PM
Dawn Coffin
email this guestbook participant
I googled.
Ellsworth, Maine, USA
COFFIN
COMMENTS: Yours is the most information I have found on the mystery (to
me) of the two St. Felicitys. I am very interested in this as it is my
granddaughter's name. I had always thought that St. Felicity was the one
who was from Rome who had 7 sons martyred before she was. However,
recently, I have found the names "Felicity" and "Perpetua" mentioned
together - they are (I think) two women of Carthidge (Africa) (nowhere
near Rome) who were martyred together with 12 (?) people. She apparently
had a baby girl in prison & was able to have her adopted before she died.
I can't figure out if this is a different telling of the same story or two
different women. Can you tell me?
Thank you!
[ 2-24-2014 Ben Ciriacks response: You probably know as much as I about
these ancient saints. There should be little doubt that there were more
than one with the same name at different times in different places
throughout the Roman Empire of the pre-4th century. A reference to SS.
Perpetua and Felicity (180 ~ March 7th, 203) is used as an example at our
definitions page under MARTYR. The Depositio Martyrum page reflects what
was found regarding them because it was inscribed in stone and therefore
not destroyed with everything else Christian during the Final Great
Persecution (303~310±) begun by Emperor Diocletian as his parting gift to
his 4 successor Emperors. Most of it was apparently found inside the
catacombs of Rome which had undoubtedly been filled in with dirt and
unavailable for easy destruction during that persecution.
Because I've taken a few years off of intensive webmastering of this site,
here's what has yet to be included elsewhere.
Marucchi, Manual of Christian archeology, Fourth Italian Edition, Revised by Giulio Belvederi, D.D., Ph.D.,Orazio Secretary of the Pontifical Institute of Christian Archeology, Translated and adapted by18.. Hubert Vecchierello, O.F.M., Ph.D., Dean of Science of St. Bonaventure College 'The' gold mine of data! ~19.. Pub: St. Anthony Guild Press, Franciscan Monastery, Paterson, New Jersey MCMXXXV (1935) local bibliography entry Cyriaca/Cyriace/Cyriacae Cyriacus/Cyriaci KYRIACO/Quiriace/QVIRIACE MPL#: 225.93 M389 1933 Cyriaca Cemetery & images/inscriptions persecutions/Christians/catacombs synopsis Christian epigraphy: an elementary treatise, with a collection of ancient Christian inscriptions mainly of Roman origin / translated by J. Armine Willis. Pub: Cambridge: University Press, 1912 Hayes 702[toggle-me] Depositio Martyrum & CYRIACUS <<
Page 114 of the Marucchi book displays the Depositio Martyrum (aka the
Feriale or Feriale Philocalianum or Day-Book or Feasts of the Martyrs).
It lists CatholicEncyclopedia Christmas, St. Peter's Chair and some 50+
martyrs along with their primary sites of veneration. Our
KYRIAKOUCyriacus appears as Cyriaci in the month of August, which is
cloned herewith in its entirety:
III kal. aug. — Abdon et Sennen in Pontiani quod est ad Ursum
pileatum.
VIII idus aug. — Xysti in Callisti et in Praetestati Agapiti et
Felicissimi.
VI idus aug. — Secundi Carpophori Victorini et Severiani, Albano —
Ostense
VII Ballistaria — Cyriaci Largi Crescentiani Memmiae
Iulianae et Smaragdi.
IV idus aug. — Laurenti in Tiburtina.
Idus aug. — Ipoliti in Tiburtina et Pontiani in Callisti.
[ COLOR CODING: locales ¤ martyrs ¤ greek in Latin ]
A web site regarding the Tombs of the Apostles St. Peter and St. Paul has
a reference to De Rossi finding "at Berne a Codex of the 'Martirologium
Hieronymianum' " expanding upon those very brief Depositio Martyrum
entries.
The Depositio Martyrum was prepared for inclusion within the Liber
pontificalis (Book of the Popes) which was initially published inRome in
354 and which is also referred to as:
Philocalian Calendar - Furius Dionysius Philocalus, engraver of Damasian
inscriptions (aka Chronography of 354, Calendar of 354 or Calendar of
Filocalus/Philocalus);
Bucherian Calendar - Father Bucher published it within his De doctrina
temporum (Antwerp, 1634);
Liberian Catalogue - ?smaller? with differences.
Christian Calendar - by Northcote & Brownlow in their translation of
Giovanni Rossi's Roma Sotterranea - they also indicate that the earliest
version may have been published as early as 336 as the predecessor to
the more elaborate version published "with highly ornamented
illustrations, in A.D. 354, by Furius Dionysius Filocalus." (pages 18 &
19).
The 1912~30s era Marucchi book(s) seems to have the most relevant
references to what you are looking for. In addition to the treasure trove
of information in it regarding our own family name (Kyriakou, Cyriacus,
Cyriaca and other references), it has [ emphasis all mine - there may be
more than this for Felicity and/or Perpetua - I no longer have a copy. ]:
1st full paragraph on page 9:
"... Of those which have been saved and are known as the Proconsular
Acts, we may mention the Acts of the Martyrs of Lyons for France,
those of St. Polycarp for Asia Minor, and those of Sts. Perpetua and
Felicitas for Africa. The Roman Church has none. The Acts of her
martyrs were destroyed during the great persecution of Diocletian,
when the archives of the Roman Church were burnt. The same thing
occurred in Africa, as we know from St. Augustine. ([3] Brevisulus
collationis cum Donatistis, col. e, c. XI (P.L., Vol. XLIII, col.
636)."
3rd full paragraph on page 79:
"In the cemetery of Praextextatus, ... the Spelunca magna, the Great
Cave, renowned for being the place where, among others, was buried the
eldest of the sons of St. Felicitas (second century)." [ These are
probably Ben Ciriacks' comments added in the mid-2000s.
(talks about common cemeteries but doesn't name any other than
Callistus! also about 'Church' making use of law concerning
associations. The Church was illegal, so it was the members of same
who took advantage of the law. pp. 89~92 talk about Church cemeteries
in plural based upon laws later returning them in the plural. Faulty
logic because many laws talk in plural when only one 'instance' may be
applicable. Cyriaca could have been another one, though, even before
her death in 259.) ]
page 177:
The Cemetery of the Jordani This cemetery, situated under the
Massimo and Savoy villas, is the deepest of subterranean Rome. ...
In this locality were also interred three sons of St. Felicitas,
Alexander, Vitalis and Martial.
... The accidental discovery of this region gave rise to the
phrase "Subterranean Rome." ... In our own day, the paintings and
inscriptions of this cemetery have been amply reproduced by Prof. E.
Iosi in the Rivista di Archeologia cristiana, eighth and and ninth
years."
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mcfarlandbooks.com & (pre-orders)
Sire Cyr GRAIL GWRIC Quiriacus
UPDATE [1/2/2015]: (posted to the facebook group page:
Just finished reading Paul SIre's "King Arthurs's European Realm - ..."
Sire is derived from Cyr derived from Cyriacus et al, 3,000+ spellings
throughout the world, the most ancient form of which is the
Greek/Macedonian Kyriakou - Kyriakou, Kyriacou, Ciriaco and Cyr may be
the most popular form of the spellings for people still living on the
face of the earth.
The book proposes the reality (versus legend or fairy tale life) of King
Arthur (under various other names) during the period immediately
following the early 4th century FINAL GREAT PERSECUTION by Roman Emperor
Diocletian (et al - various co-emperors of lessor status than he).
Many of the proofs are based upon the overwhelming evidence of the
physical establishment of various edifices dedicated to Saint Cyr (et al
spellings) throughout the area which was proposed to have been King
Arthur (et al's) kingdom in the area encompassing northern Italy,
through France and into the Mountainous areas of Spain, across the
channel into southern Britain and back across the channel into the
border regions including portions of and below present day Netherlands,
Germany, Hungary and even the areas surrounding or maybe just south of
the Black Sea.
The edifices are constructed mostly as churches and chapels dedicated to
the saint that is most likely the one belonging to and/or generating the
family name(s) for our 2,000 year old family. Paul Sire proposes that
those families and others of similar status at the beginning of the 4th
century (and probably before) compose "The Grail Family" which took
possession of the Holy Grail when it was found in Jerusalem (or
thereabouts) in the 4th century (or in the 12th+- century during the
earliest crusades).
I am looking into various DNA projects that cover the more British
oriented aspects of these developments - primarily for a way we can
either fit in or create our own project that would be devoted primarily
to verifying whether or not a specific spelling is "related" to the
others.
- - -
Axel Cyriacks and Tina Kyriakis like this.
Tina Kyriakis Happy New Year! Thanks for synopsis!
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UPDATE [3/16/2014]: Hi again,
Since we last exchanged emails my book has finally been published. In
it you will find most of the answers to most of the issues you have been
raising on your website, I have managed to join the dotted lines between
your lines of investigation and so the book could very well be about
your ancestors of 800-2000 years ago.
My book (print & e-book) is the final solution to the riddle of who was
King Arthur. Expect the unexpected as the legend will become
established history with irrefutable evidence never before produced.
This will become the definitive version of the story, yet it is very
close to the original as well. You can only buy it for the moment from
the US publisher's website: [ see link above ]
"King Arthur's European Realm" by Paul Sire [updated 3/17/2014] [ toggle
me ]
McFarland - a leading independent publisher of academic and nonfiction
books
Figures/Arthur, King of the Britons
King Arthur's European Realm
New Evidence from Monmouth's Primary Sources ]
Print ISBN: 978-0-7864-7801-9
Ebook ISBN: 978-1-4766-1301-7
18 photos, 10 maps, appendices, notes, bibliography, index
212pp. softcover (7 x 10) 2014 [updated 3/17/14]
Price: $39.95 March 2014 Available for immediate shipment
About the Book
King Arthur was as true as life, as this book proves with documentary
evidence. It also incorporates a whole body of new material that shows
that Monmouth was, basically, right. The "Arthurian Legend" can be
fully rationalized by uncontroversial Insular and Continental sources
which trace his birth to ca. AD 449, his departure from his kingdom in
466 and his battles across France. This book's "Riothamus" does not,
however, vanish from history but moves east and, in 476, conquers Rome,
much as Monmouth confusingly said. In 489 Arthur's name appears on an
Italian legal document, but by 495 he had returned to Britain to fight
his famous Battle of Badon, 14 miles east of Bath. By tracking the
history of the conquerors of Rome through the material culture they left
in the towns they settled, this book finds a perfect match with the
places mentioned in the "Arthurian Legend." Use of the right historical
records allow the enigma to be untangled clearly.
About the Author
Paul Sire is the President of The English-Speaking Union-Spain and is an
e-business consultant. He lives in Madrid, Spain.
COMMENTS: 3 places you fail to mention on your site are Tintagel
(Wikipedia site) (St. Juliot), Caerleon (Wikipedia site) and Badon Hill
Battle_of_Badon (Wikipedia site) all 3 are notorious Arthurian sites (
King_Arthur (Wikipedia site) ) and I explain the relationship between
the saint in the book that will shortly be launched (see link). St.
Germanus Germanus_of_Auxerre (Wikipedia site) took the cult to Britain
but the people who dedicated the churches in the Middle Ages to the
saints were all members of the "Grail Family".
[ Webmaster note: The only instance before this to GRAIL within this
web site is in the Uncle Jesus web page in the discussion of the Holy
Grail in the coat-of-arms of the Desposyni (relatives of Jesus) family
coming from the HOLY FAMILY 2 ROYAL FAMILY web site. TWENTY-SIX (26)
new names
Garriek, Geriac, Geriak, Gerieke, Gieriak, Giracc, Girace, Giraeg,
Girag, Girak, Giriaco, Giriac, Girias, Giric, Giries, Giriez, Girig,
Girik, Girios, Goriak, Graic, Grail, Griac, Guriac, Guriak and Gyiriok.
were added to make the new total 3,075 after this email. Another 85
were discovered via the Ellis Island searching algorithm. ]
And my last name, Sire, is another version of Cyr (Quiriacus). I have
tried to find DNA info of your family but have not found it. do you
have a link?
Best wishes
Paul
1/22/2014: Ben Ciriacks reply:
Thanks for the information. The closest I find to the "GRAIL" spelling
is GWRIC which comes from Charlotte Yonge's OUTSTANDING surname work of
the 19th century -
[ Page 217 of the Yonge book indicates that "Gwyl Gwric ac Elidan" is
a welsh interpretation of St. Cyr & Julitta, the saints revered in
Great Britain. ]
- that seems to indicate a post Crusades (post-Arthur) derivation but
the family name could have been there around his time with the churches
dedicated to the various saints due to lobbying by family members -
something I suspect was happening throughout 'the Europe' of the time.
Since we pretty much know we have common DNA to various worldwide
branches going back to the 15th century merely from the genealogy
involved, it is still too early to ?waste? money on testing until the
tests come up with much more information going back to more than 2,000
years ago. I now suspect an early origin in Macedonia but it doesn't
make much difference since even then the family was probably spread
throughout the Mediterranean and, without written history AT THE TIME,
there wouldn't be much to discover.
We need to find some family member with access to their own or some
other family members "ancient library" that may contain resources nobody
has ever looked at in centuries for it all being written in olde
english, greek, latin or whatever other languages were used by the very
few scribes of the time - that'll have to happen long after I'm dead and
even now, there isn't anyone I know of in our extended family who is
interested in all this.
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:54 AM, International wrote:
Hi
If you think your last name is linked to the saint I provide a detailed
analysis of all the places and churches with that name in France, Spain
and Britain.
In France, for example, the largest number are in the Lot region
Lot_(department) (Wikipedia site) (as in Lancelot). The first
historical record of a church was in Nevers (Wikipedia site) .
[toggle-me] King George Cyriacus connection
FabPedigree.com has:
Gallienus Quiriacus ; aka Galains; poss. Desposynic (heir)
His pedigree indicates that he may have been the 37-Great
Grandfather of:
Georg (King) of SAXONY (1832 - 1904);
aka Friedrich August Georg Ludwig Wilhelm Maximilian Karl Maria
Nepomuk Baptist Xaver Cyriacus Romanus (pedigree)
[ Saxony [Sachsen(S) Sachsen-Anhalt(SA) Niedersachsen(NS)] pretty much
encompasses the triangular area between Bremen on the northwest, Berlin
on the northeast and Erfurt [Thuringen(TH) just south of Sachsen-Anhalt]
between them to the south. All in the middle to northern half of
ancient Germany where most of our germanic history and surname hits have
been found. The Cyriacus coming so soon after Romanus in that pedigree
indicates it's ancient origin - the Romanus probably indicating that the
origins were within the Roman Empire. See also
www.angelfire.com/ego/et_deo/christianity.wps.htm. ]
A 2005 HolyFamily2RoyalFamily web site, under THE "PREFECTS OF PROVINCE
PEDIGREE", has:
Gallienus Quiriacus recognized senior royal Desposynic heir (225
[AD/CE])
Yet another Soc.Genealogy.Britain Google Groups posting includes most of
that site without further comment.
[ Provence is one of the most ancient regions of southern France. It
encompasses the Mediterranean coast that includes Marseille, Toulon,
Canne and Nice. The kingdom of Monaco (Monte Carlo) is between it and
the Italian border. ]
The oldest church with original paintings from the 10th century are in
Catalonia (Wikipedia site) with some very interesting symbols.
In Italy by far the largest concentration of these churches is in
Lombardy (Wikipedia site) .
In Germany I have been able to do little research as I do not speak
German. However the picture is clear.
First Saint_Amator (Wikipedia site) brought the cult from Antioch, St.
Germanus took it to Britain but then he was a Knight of the
Theban_Legion (Wikipedia site) .
But the current generation of churches (with St. Julitta) was spread by
knights emerging from the region of Switzerland/Burgundy at the start of
the Carolingian period. [ Carolingian_Dynasty (Wikipedia site) = late
8th & early 9th centuries; made most notable by the rule of Charlemagne
(Wikipedia site) . ]
If you think you have something to do with those who built the churches
then you are most likely to be " La_Tene (Wikipedia site) " Celt and
your ancestors will be in that book which extends all the way into the
14th century as it talks about the people who spread the Arthurian
"legend".
Best Paul
1/27/2014 6:04 PM: Ben Ciriacks reply [edited/expanded]: Thanks for
the additional information.
Am about 99% sure we are of the same family as the KYRIAKOS et al of the
1st century but have yet to confirm that that surname applied to a
family and then to Christians or vice versa - the Main Church used by
the various religious of Mt. Athos in Greece TODAY is called 'KYRIAKON'.
That term may have been one of the earliest forms (back in the 1st and
2nd centuries) for what we refer to as 'CHRISTIANS' now.
[toggle-me] Origin of our Family Name
Origin of our Family Name:
March 13th, 2012: The earliest transcribed form of our family name
comes from a greek reference found within the early 3rd century
unfinished Stomateis or 'Miscellanies' (book VI) written by Clement of
Alexandria , "who died between 211 and 216". Variations of the phrase
are all over the internet, but the presumed original greek is at
Christian_cross (Wikipedia site) with a translation as the Lord's sign.
But, those greek letters kappa upsilon rho iota alpha kappa omega nu
preceded by tau omega and followed by sigma eta mu epsilon omega omicron
nu could also be interpreted as "the Lord's followers' sign" or "the
sign 'of' the followers 'of' the Lord; ie, the Christian's sign". The
nu at the end of the last two words should make them both adjectives -
an interpretation implying that the earliest Greek Christians could have
used the term KYRIAKON to refer to themselves as Christians in an
organizational sense.
And, perhaps not so coincidentally, The Kyriakon (tau omega - kappa
upsilon rho iota alpha kappa omega nu - tou kyriakouon) is the
appellation currently used by the dozens of Christian organizations
living on Holy Mount Athos in Greece to refer to their central meeting
place - shown in the picture to the right.
Whether the term meant the edifice in which members of The Church met,
The Church membership or both the edifice AND its members in the
ancient, pre-4th century Christian Era has yet to be determined. In any
case, our equally ancient family name appears to have been linked,
coincidentally or not, to the origins of Christianity from at least the
early 3rd century. Visit these other web site links to read more about
it all: Christian_cross (2) (3) (4) Clement of Alexandria
AthosHomePage Mount_Athos (Wikipedia site) Karta_Athos
Prodromos_(Mount_Athos) The Kyriakon picture kyriakon discussion
CatholicEncyclopedia Archaeology of the Cross and Crucifix
The CYR et al spellings didn't seem to have been in existence until the
3rd century or later - it both replacing the greek 'K' with the
?latin/anglo/sachsen? 'C' and changing the sound from the hard greek CHI
to the softer latin/anglo/saxon 'C' as in SEER. I suspect now, thanks
to you, that that change may have happened in ancient Germany with the
Saxons (Sachens) - the area where we suspect the family fled from Rome
in the very early 4th century when all Christians were being killed as
Diocletian's parting gift to humanity and his 4 successor emperors. Our
family members who fled to Germany must have been wealthy movers and
shakers and were undoubtedly involved in any activities that helped
maintain that status.
Our earliest ancestors in the Bremen area of the late 16th early 17th
century were builders of the large barn-homes all in one units that
allowed people to survive the cruel winters without having to step
outside. Their presumed cousins, from the Erfurt area of Germany, kept
and ancient form of the spelling of the name, CYRIAX, when migrating to
England in the 18th+- century and were already established as a family
of college educated professionals - that branch gave us Henry James
Cyriax, the father of orthopedic medicine (he another family history
researcher at http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/james.htm.)
The child Saint Cyr and mother Julietta may have been members of this
noble family and appear to be revered more by the French and English
whereas the much elder Cyriacus at the Baths (of Diocletian) in Rome is
the one to whom 400 extant churches in Germany and numerous others
elsewhere throughout the world are dedicated - he is probably a distant
cousin and ancient member of the Greek-Patrician family of Rome who had
a palace on the Coellian Hill until the Emperors of the mid 3rd century
confiscated it when they finally decided to go after "wealthy citizens
of Rome" [ in our case the Matriarch Cyriaca ] when their finances ran
into the ground from all the wars and other turmoil of that Period of
Military Anarchy.
Since the child saint didn't live long enough to create much of a
history, my research and effort concentrates on the elder - but with the
supposition that they were all part of the same wealthy family
surrounding the Mediterranean. The same kind of family that would be
involved with kings and other nobles attempting to control whatever
territory was needed (to maintain that control) in later centuries.
1/30/2014: Ben Ciriacks reply:
As hinted at in the last short email, i'm trying to place all relevant
data at the http://Guestbook.Cyriac-FHP.com entry for our back and forth
emails so that that can all be read later by others.
What won't be placed there but is interest to you and my relatives is
that my nephew's 23andme coding is (PRIVATE - white European) which is
most commonly found on the fringes of the North Sea according to them.
That's supposedly the patrilineal coding. I'm not interested in the
matrilineal coding because 'logically' almost everyone is related to
everyone when including female ancestors. It surprises me that no
mention of greek or iberian or whatever in the eastern Mediterrranean is
mentioned - will have to see much more date of DNA of people we know are
related to each other in our family to see what gives - maybe we have
more Norse heritage than Greek.
In any case, I look forward to your book coming out and seeing exactly
what possibilities there are to our family connections to King Arthur et
al and the 'known' movers and shakers of that era.
The Kyriakos Jewish connection
(http://www.Cyriac-FHP.com/unclejesus.htm)) has the possibility of those
folks being set-up as rulers/managers throughout the remote territories
of the Roman Empire in the 1st century for whatever imperial reason and
that their offspring could have become involved with the real or virtual
shenanigans surrounding what became passed along as the King Arthurian
legend.
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:26 AM, International wrote:
I have a similar string except the ... at the end which is different. I
can't remember how many generations apart that would put us, quite a
few. Could still make you Suebi perhaps as Sweden is believed to take
its name from there or perhaps Heruli. As the latter are known to have
migrated east from Scandinavia.
I am off to England tomorrow and will visit St. Cyriacs church in
Lacock, just a few miles from Bowden Hill. Know it? Will send a photo
when I get back next week.
1/30/2014: Ben Ciriacks reply:
That's the church in the Harry Potter movies - the whole series used
Lacock, I think, as do many others when looking for sites without the
modern intrusions in the background.
My older brother visited it in the 1970s when we were first getting
going with our family history project. There was a lot of controversy
within the Catholic Church regarding the younger Cyriacus (baby/youth
martyr) and the older one supposedly beheaded at the Baths of Diocletian
- the latter has more history and verifiable bona fides, such as the
plaque and church found by Friar Capgraye in the 15th century in Rome
when it was still in ruins and uncared for - that directly across the
street from the Baths of Diocletian.
There was so much contention regarding these two (apparently Germanic
aligned versus everyone else) that neither one is among the 140 saints
on the columns surrounding St. Peter's square - even though the elder is
a TITULAR Saint to this day. (A recent Cardinal of Baltimore, Maryland,
USA was the Cyriacus Titular designee - Cyriacus and another I forget
are the only two who have no extant church associated with them.)
I don't pay a lot of attention to those 23andme results - they only use
23 genes (I think) - I am waiting for the test that will analyze more
than a hundred or so that will tie us in to a specific locale ... Those
kinds of results will be of use to our worldwide family genealogy.
International Jan 30 [ 2014]:
In Rome the Cyriacus name is strongly linked to the story of St.
Lawrence, the keeper of the Grail. Read up his haliography and you will
see.
I suspect you will find no S. european link to your family. Almost all
the nomads who came into Europe at the end of the Roman Empire came from
the Greek speaking East, that's all.
1/30/2014: Ben Ciriacks reply:
see http://www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cwx.htm - I suspect Lawrence was a family
member through his maternal lineage - mainly due to the amount of
financial trust placed in him by his mentor, (CYRIACA) Matriarch of the
House Of Cyriac.
what kind of 23andme coding do Greeks have? Maybe our ancestry goes
back to the North Sea through the Greeks!
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Date & time received
Name
City, State, Country
How'd you find us?
Link to your web site:
Surname spelling(s)
August 15, 2012
(private) (Graduate Library Assistant)
U. of Missouri
Gmail Alert!
Scripta manent. blog
Ciriaci
COMMENTS: Here's the recent timeline of the serendipitous discovery of
this earliest (12 century) "written reference" to our family name: [
Numerous other requests similar to this one have been made over the past
couple decades - only a few of them garnered responses. ]
August 8th, 2012: On this Feast Day of Cyriacus at the Baths (of
Diocletian), someone working in the Special Collections and Rare Books
section of the Ellis Library of the University of Missouri decides to
make, upload and blog about a 12th century partial manuscript found
within their collection and the saint referenced within it.
August 15th: Google's Gmail sends Ben Ciriacks an alert about this
Ciriaci reference found by their 24/7/365 search engines. Ben,
webmaster of this site, saves the file for perusal at home. [ The
public library computers used as part of Ben's poverty budget are
limited to two hours per day in one hour sessions. Meaning not a lot
of time is spent reading or studying these finds on that time limited
computer. ]
August 16th: Having realized the significance of this discovery, Ben
prepares and uploads the following posting to their Scripta manent.
blog the next morning:
From: Ben Ciriacks, Research-Genealogost & Webmaster of the Cyriac
Family
History Project located online at http://www.Cyriac-FHP.com
To: (private), Scripta manent blog(er/master?)
Special Collections and Rare Books at MU Libraries
University of Missouri
Subj: Ciriaci Socio images, permission to use & reference online
Discovered via GMail Alert yesterday, your blog posting referencing
this "12th century" document provides the oldest image we have of any
reference to our most notable and ancient 'probable' family member,
Cyriacus at the Baths of Diocletian. The earliest, circa 250 A.D.
image
of one of the 3,000+ variations of our family name is the
oldest written 'Cir/Cyr' spelling found, so far. It is an 'inscribed
in stone' representation. Yours is from a hand written document that
represents the 'original' image of same. We would love to be able to
upload and display either or both of the images presented in your blog
posting at our web site - the image with the 'Ciriaci' is the most
important one that would be displayed. Also having images of the
manuscript cover, title page and any other identifying information
would be a great help. The most informative manuscripts we have found
so far, are those prepared by Jacobus de Voragin (c1230 ~ 1298), John
of Tynemouth (1290 ~ c1349) and John Capgrave (4/21/1393 ~ 8/12/1464)
- all online thanks to Google.
Friar Capgrave seems to have actually seen a plaque describing the
Legend of Cyriacus that was attached to the last physical edifice
dedicated to him in Rome. Although we don't even know if there is
another such plaque still extant, Friar Capgrave's most studious
observations and narration can be seen at his 'show/hide toggle
button' section (http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/csx.htm#poPcap) of the St.
Ciriaci web page.
[ We have yet to see anything of the actual writings of Bede (c673 ~
5/26/735) which may have been the most ancient source of any of the
legends regarding the ancient saints. ]
Please let me know what we need to do to accomplish our objective of
disseminating information about our family that is represented in your
fine Special Collections and Rare Books library.
Ruben James Ciriacks (aka Ben)
August 17th ~ 20th: Ben and (private) exchange emails and a copy of
the permission form allowing our "non-profit" usage of the image(s) in
question.
August 21st: Ben creates the appropriate image and references
thereto and uploads the new 'ciriaci-socio.jpg' image to this web
site.
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Date & time received
Name
Email address
City, State, Country
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August 6, 2011
Ben Ciriacks
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Ben.Ciriacks.com
Ciriacks
COMMENTS: Jean Ciriacks, born 1925, died on Thursday, July 14, 2011.
My entry to her no longer online Memorial Guestbook is cloned herewith:
Aug 6, 2011 Jean was a gracious and unquestioning host the many times
I moved in and out of New Mexico and Albuquerque between schools, jobs
and apartments over the 17 years I lived down there. She lived a full
life and always made sure she had plenty to do, doing it very well and
worthy of notice as tesitified by others here. I especially like the
comment about her telling what was on her mind without hesitiation
whether in agreement or disagreement - one cannot but highly respect a
person with such a highly developed sense of confidence and
communicative ability.
I'm sure the other activists in New Mexico will miss her as
will the rest of us.
Posted by: Ben Ciriacks - Milwaukee, WI - step-son
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Fabio Bachemin
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Hollywood Fred
COMMENTS: Knowing Eddy Faust the 2 men were undoubtedly drunk, and Eddy
could be a nasty drunk by all accounts. Sounds like Fred Cyriac was a
nasty drunk as well.
My father was the step-son of Eddy Faust. Eddy later passed away after
passing out on a railroad track. Not only was he known for the training
of the German Shepherd "Peter the Great" but he also managed a 300 acre
farm owned by MGM located on Pico and Overland. I guess the farm was
primarily for training of animals, because my father actually fed and
cared for the 3,000 chickens, 600 rabbits, 12 horses, 6 dogs and 6 pigs.
Eddy also trained my fathers 6 dogs for the Gregory Peck Movie "The
Yearling".
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margarita natsis
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Athens, Greece
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Kyriakakos et al
COMMENTS: Hello Ben,
Greetings from Athens!
I came across your very interesting genealogy site and I must
congratulate you on the great job you are doing! Hope you do not mind
if I ask you to consider a potential error about the name
Kyriakakos/(greek??????????/??????????). This name has nothing to do
with Evil-Lord. It is a family name from the region of Mani in the
Peloponnese. It means son of Kyriakos. The -akos ending is typical of
the area.
Please let me know if I can help you further.
Margarita
--
"Other countries may offer you discoveries in manners or lore or
landscape; Greece offers you something harder-the discovery of yourself
" Lawrence Durrell, "Prospero's cell"
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Edna Hanson
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Cyriaks
COMMENTS: Maternal grandfather is John Herman Christopher Cyriaks born
1898 or 1892, think latter. Married Sylvia Seigrist, 2 daughters. I am
eldest grandchild of JHCC.
Ben Ciriacks' reply: Our common Cyriac ancestor is Brun Ciriacks (birth
certificate spelling) born in 1737 - our great 4 grandfather - making us
5th cousins. My records show 1898 and Siegrist but documents over the
years would probably contain both spellings - can you confirm yours is
the one used by her during her lifetime?
John Herman's dad Johann (your great-grandfather) was a twin born in
1866 of a dad, Christopher, who was also a twin born in 1824. Both are
shown on this Bremen family tree image.
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Sergio Kyriakis
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Ciriacks - Kyriakis
COMMENTS: I was wondering if there is any valid relationship between
our names. Mine is a bit different, but it is sure close. However, I
am from Greece originally and Orthodox by upbringing, but still, after
reviewing your info, I was wondering if you'd come across my particular
spelling, not the Kyriakou though. This stuff is quite interesting
indeed, and I can see you've done a lot of work here. Thanks for
sharing!
Ben Ciriacks reply:
Hello cousin - we may have a common ancestor going back to the
first century - the names are the same - yours one of the dozens of
variations of the greek Kyriakou/Kyriaku and mine one of the hundreds
of variations of the latinized english Cyriax/Cyriakus/Cyriacus (which
is the latinized form of the greek Kyriakou) - there are over 2,200
variations of the spelling found so far. Your spelling can be seen at:
http://www.jamrent.com/c/cyrialky.htm#kyriakis or
http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/cyrialky.htm#kyriakis
Can I place your query in our http://guestbook.cyriac-fhp.com/ ?
(Sergio subsequently emailed two kyriakis.m4a sound files with the
greek and USA english pronunciation - searching for a way to convert
them to uploadable kyriakis.wav files is in progress.)
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Tuesday, January 11, 2011
Elmer F. Ciriack Jr.
Dallas, Texas
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Ciriack
COMMENTS: Elmer was a retired technical illustrator. Go to the
Legacy.com obituary link to read it and Ben Ciriacks' posting:
Elmer and his master chef dad are fondly remembered from the
mini-reunion type visit we had back in the Spring of 1972 when they
lived atop the hill in Azle. My older brother John and I were on a
family greetings type tour of New Mexico and Texas. I first found
Ralph in the Phoenix area phone book the prior year and researched all
of the New England based family the next year
(http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/ckx73.htm) - that research letting Elmer
and Ralph know that the Ciriack name did not disappear with Ralph
Lamar's tragic Vietnam War related death in 1971. There are plenty of
Ciriack surnamed individuals to be found via Google et al. For the
most up to date information on what we have of the New England based
branch, see:
http://Ciriack.Cyriac-FHP.com
Ben Ciriacks, Wisconsin Branch
http://Ben.Ciriacks.com
(We have yet to find a connection between the New England Ciriack and
the rest of us Ciriacks, Cyriackes, Cyriacks, Cyriaks, et al from the
Bremen area.)
• chronology • guestbook & (names) • HollywoodFred • kyrios
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September 30, 2010
Ciriackes spelling
Etelsen, Germany to London, England
?Yahoo Groups?
www.Cyriac-FHP.com/Ciriackes.htm
Ciriackes Cyriacks
Ben Ciriacks comments: Haven't received permission to place the
exchange of emails here but go to the link to see what is developing, so
far, regarding our newly discovered cousins. two brothers from Etelsen
who migrated to London to get into the sugar refining business in the
last half of the 18th century. (Will get around to including images and
more there when time is found.)
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Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:45 PM
Chiriaco Summit
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Chiriaco Summit, California
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Chiriaco [Shure-ache-oh] (spelling & places pages)
COMMENTS: Mr. Ciriacks:
Thank you for your email [of Oct. 30. 2009] including the link to your
family history project, and I'm sorry that it's taken me so long to
respond. Your message went into a spam folder and since I transferred
my email files to another computer, I just found it.
I'm forwarding your message to my mother, ..., in case she would like to
correspond with you.
Her father, Joseph L. Chiriaco, started our family business and founded
the small community here at Chiriaco Summit in 1933. He was born in
Florence, AL ... His parents were from Calabria, Italy. We have lots
of Chiriaco relatives, and there are different pronunciations even among
this branch of the family. Grandpa Joe always said it was
"Sure-ache-oh" [Shure-ache-oh], so that's the way we pronounce it today.
... My grandfather ... & Grandma Ruth loved to sit in the Coffee Shop
and visit with folks ...
Best of luck to you, and thanks for sharing your research.
Heather Garcia
P.S.
My grandpa thought that his way of pronunciation sounded more
"American". He would be so tickled about your research tracing the
Greek connection. He often told a funny story about his supposed
grecian ancestry!
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July 1, 2008 through July 27, 2009
(private - no authorization to place here received)
Cirak/Denesfa, Hungary
Cyriacus de Serna page (in a new window)
Cirák Cirak Ciraki Czirák Czirak Cziráky Cziraky Kyriakos
Kyriakou Zyrak Zyriacus
COMMENTS: A series of facebook messages from July 1st to July 27th,
2009 motivated online research that established that the Hungarian Cirák
Cirak et al spellings (Czirák Czirak before the 'z' was removed from the
alphabet) spring from the Greek Kyriakou spelling. See the Cirak,
Denesfa and Csorna discussion at our local Cyriacus de Serna page (in a
pop-up window) for the latest information regarding all this.
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kurt
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Verden, Bremen, Germany
Buckley Cyriacks
COMMENTS: wo ist das grab meiner schwester ursula buckley,geb.cyriacks
in baden,kreis verden aller.zuletzt ivins-utah
[ Translation: where is the grave of my sister ursula buckley,
geb.cyriacks Baden, circling Verden aller.zuletzt Ivins-utah
Ben Ciriacks reply: I do not know. I have never been to Verden. (Ich
weiß nicht. Ich habe nie in Verden.) ]
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Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 8:00 AM
Jürgen (Juergen) Cyriacks
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Achim, Germany
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Cyriacks
COMMENTS: ich bin beim stöbern meines familien namens auf diese addy
gekommen. wer sie liest weis ich nicht? Vieleicht bekomme ich ja eine
antwort?
Jürgen Cyriacks
Bruchweg 1
D 28832 Achim
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Ben Ciriacks translation: Found this website while browsing on my
family name. Why doesn't it show my name? Please respond.
Translation aided by the following:
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt I am with browse my to
families named on these addy come. who it does not read white I?
Perhaps do I get an answer?
http://ets.freetranslation.com/ I am browse come in that my family by
the name of on this addy. Who does it not read show I? Do much oak I
get yes an answer?
http://translation2.paralink.com/lowres.asp I am with rummage of mine
familien called on this addy come. who reads they do not point I? I
get Vieleicht antwort?
See a 25 Oct 2003 guestbook entry at Juergen Cyriacks.
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Dan Condon [webmaster]
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Cyriacks
COMMENTS: Hi. You're welcome to use my pictures and link to my web
site. I also have another link to it that I use. It has the same
information but sometimes is updated sooner. Anyway good luck finding
the book Peter. I was lucky to find a copy a few years back which is
signed by the author. I have been offered 100 dollars for it but I
wouldn't sell it for twice that. I am always looking for another copy
but I know of only 2 other people that have found them. I had even
contacted a great nephew of Clara out in California who said he could
remember his Great Aunt with a box of the books but after she passed
away people broke into her house and he never saw the books again. He
doesn't even have a copy. He also had a brother or sister that had her
manuscripts but Peter wasn't there or at least the lady I talked to
didn't want me to have it. But other than that a copy will be very hard
to find. Good luck with that.
Good Luck, Dan
- - -
Here's the Ben Ciriacks's original email request sent 12:21 pm 8/4/08:
Just found your "Peter the Great" et al movie dogs web site Saturday and
the link back to the legal summaries referenced to my page regarding the
Fred & Hermann Cyriacks brothers.
(The Hollywood.Fred.Cyriac-FHP.com link may not always work - it tested
okay just now and is safe to continue using.)
I'd love to be able to use a smaller, tweaked version of the two
photos showing "Peter the Great" within the legal and other text
at my site. Attached is the tweaked version (via Irfanview at
60%) of the two photos at your web site that I'd like to use
(filename ptg1924&5.jpg) - the picture will be linked back to your
site wherever it appears on my site.
(Click the picture to go to the web site containing the much
larger 'Movie Poster' originals.)
I'm also searching out the "Peter" book by Clara Foglesong (1946)
referenced at your site to discover any more information about Peter and
Fred's fatal confrontation. Her name didn't come up on Google.
The sole result returned via our (genealogical) search platform was at
the (loc)Library of Congress (LC Control No.:95119188) - that result
just reflecting her book as #23 among a list of 28 "Miscellaneous
children's booklets" published between 1836 to 1947.
Fred's family has yet to be found in the Bremen area ... - Fred was said
to have been a very strident member (of the Nazi Party) with all the
paraphernalia and possibly holding meetings at his mansion but none of
that has been proven or substantiated by photes or written evidence so
it doesn't appear at our Cyriac Family History Project site, yet.
Thanks for your web site and sharing your valuable trove of information
with the rest of us.
Ben Ciriacks
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Diana Wright [Author]
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Diana G. Wright & related Cyriacus of Ancona links
2012-AnnualMeetingRenaissSocOfAmerica-CallForPapers
2011-Cyriaco's Kore 2011-My Very Good Friends 2011-2
images of Ciriaco 2009-along-with-bishop-and-huntsmen
2008-on-galley-by-lamplight 2004-Bryn Mawr Classical
Review 2004-Cyriac of Ancona: Later Travels... Diana
Wright Cyriaco page Diana Wright Cyriaco in the
Argolid-Nauplion, Merbaka Diana Wright Nauplion page
Ciriaco_de_Pizzicolli Wikipedia page Cyriac-FHP Ciriaco
page Cyriac-FHP guestbook entries Cyriac-FHP St. Cyriacus
page Judas_Cyriacus Wikipedia page
Ciriaco, Cyriac, Cyriaco, Cyriacus, Cyriaque, Kuriakos,
Kyriacus
COMMENTS: 1/8/2011: I'll put the colored picture on Wiki.
His name was Cyriaco Pizzicoli, so Cyriaco was named for the patron
saint of Ancona, and the family name was Pizzicoli.
You know that in Greek, the name refers to Sunday, or "the Lord's Day."
[Lord or sir is Kyrios.] The same way that in Italian, Sunday is
Domenico.
DW
* * * Ben Ciriacks response on 1/12/2011:
Thanks for doing the colored picture - I'll update the just uploaded
'little' version' of it when the wikmedia page is downloadable.
Am glad you have such an interest in Cyriaco and look forward to more
interesting and valuable intelligence you discover about him - there is
no doubt that historians have underappreciated his significance to all
of us.
From what I've seen, having two or more names, especially among
prominent families, signifies the recognition of other family names in
one's genealogy - much like kings with dozens of such names and roman
emperors who may have begun the process.
It may be just a coincidence that his name and the saint's name were the
same. I'd love to see evidence that he was really named after the
patron saint. (The patron saint was supposed to be a jew who converted
and obtained the Cyriacus name as an honorific coincident with his
becoming Bishop of Ancona back before there were Cardinals. The real
and primary Cyriacus/Kyriakou was the saint of Rome who was martyred
around 304 and who may have been a friend of Diocletian - very little
proof about anything about him exists but there are 400+ churches in
Germany dedicated to him.)
The Kyriakou name appears before the modern "Sunday" came into popular
usage and is more likely associated with the master, lord or other
connotation - it may have been in existance in Antioch around 44 AD but
more likely was already a popular family name before that. There are
just too many Kyriakou's in the world for it to have begun only in the
first century.
Have a good time in San Antonio - I was there for the first time in
mid-October for a http://CoAlumni.jamrent.org college reunion - most
tourist friendly town I've ever seen. Seniors ride the busses free on
weekends and at reduced fares otherwise - still have my 5 year picture
ID the downtown (2 blocks from the Druary Plaza Hotel) Via Transit
office isssued to me for free in less than 5 minutes.
Alamo and its volunteers is another great experience - they really treat
everyone great. [ 3/31/12 update: Ben Ciriacks now lives in San
Antonio. ]
1/8/2011: to-tell-you-something-special
* * * Ben Ciriacks response on 1/10/2011:
Thank you very much for that update and the images - would love to see
someone place them in the public domain on Wikimedia or elsewhere.
[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cyriacus_of_Ancona]
Spent most of December perusing references to Cyriacus and various
Kyriaki, Kyriake, Kyriakes, Kyriakos, etc. people and saints in Mani [
Peloponnese, Greece ] via John Chapman's 'walking tour' type website at:
http://www.zorbas.de/maniguide/cyriac.htm
I'd love to have the time to study all the works or references to him
that show his various spellings of the family name - it may not have
been his family name, but I'm positive he was as curious about its
origins as I am. (The Kyriakou family of Greece was probably as large
and influential in his time as it is now but in the typcially subdued
way that appears characteristic of one of the traits of our 2,000 year
name/family history.)
7/25/2008: CYRIACO OF ANCONA 1391 -1452 (Diana's web site)
Diana G. Wright & related Cyriacus of Ancona links
2012-AnnualMeetingRenaissSocOfAmerica-CallForPapers
2011-Cyriaco's Kore 2011-My Very Good Friends 2011-2 images of
Ciriaco 2009-along-with-bishop-and-huntsmen
2008-on-galley-by-lamplight 2004-Bryn Mawr Classical Review
2004-Cyriac of Ancona: Later Travels... Diana Wright Cyriaco
page Diana Wright Cyriaco in the Argolid-Nauplion, Merbaka Diana
Wright Nauplion page Ciriaco_de_Pizzicolli Wikipedia page
Cyriac-FHP Ciriaco page Cyriac-FHP guestbook entries Cyriac-FHP
St. Cyriacus page Judas_Cyriacus Wikipedia page
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George Eliason [Author]
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Ciriacas Desposyni Kyriakos
- - - 6/14/11 Ben Ciriacks' response:
Sure, but please indicate that this is all conjecture until DNA testing
proves otherwise. I don't think it's that big of a deal but do
recognize that there are forces out there helping me in my research -
but I figure those forces would help anyone who cares enough to attend
to them.
The more important consideration to me is the nature of a surname and
how it changes and spreads over time - ours being one of the more
significant in western culture. The orientals have much more
significant genealogies that put ours to shame. I am reading your book
- more religion than I've read in four decades - am about 25% into it.
You are addressing an audience I don't have much contact with and I hope
they read it and help you get that discussion going.
- - - 6/14/11
Ben
Here is how I want to introduce your family, work and site. ...
Kyriakos - Living Kin of the Lord and the Apostles
By GH Eliason
There is no better way to debunk myth or even fiction than to
provide a truth.
The myth of a "DaVinci Code" family of Jesus has been circulating
since the time of the gnostics and can be put to rest, and Dan
Browns' work of fiction labeled as just that fiction.
Historically Mary Magdelane did marry marry "a Jesus", Jesus
Justus of Rome who was a cousin of our Saviour and His brothers.
The Desposyni (kin of the Lord) are the families of our Lord's
brothers, sisters, and cousins. At the earliest times of the
faith these families were set over the churches as governors
(bishops), designated by the Apostles to keep legitimate rule and
justice among the Christian peoples.
Shown here is a little of that information showing the name
changes by country and region and links to much more.
The compiler of this information is by descent from the Roman
Desposini families. He has graciously allowed me to link to his
work which speaks for itself, has been carefully documented over
the space of 40 years and is ongoing. It is also his desire that
people are introduced to these histories and their source
documents.
When I was researching the Kyriakos family in history for my book
it had been my intent to show it through the 8th century. When I
came across his work and vetted it, I deleted the references from
my book. Ben Ciriacs' work should be the authorative source.
If our God could bring these who are historically the most hunted
families through time until today He can and will see us through
till His coming.
The greatest buster of myth is a living proof.
[ See the GENESIS chart (surname variations/evolution/worldwide
distribution) that is kept updated at our Legend Page. ]
Links:
http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/
http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/legend.htm
http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/uncle-jesus.htm
- - - 5/19/11
Ben
Here is the copy of the book. ...
George
2 attachments
- - - 5/6/11 via LinkedIn connection
... With regard to the book it is now titled "The Generations of
Antichrist; An Argument for the Sake of Heaven."
It is available at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Borders, etc. [ Alibris -
ISBN 978-1-4327-6550-7 - Outskirts Press, Inc., Denver, Colorado,
Copyright © 2011, G H Eliason, v2.0 ]
I think it will be the best religious history thats never read lol.
When I came across your work and vetted it a little bit, I cut out
sections about your family history from the book because of your
writing. Your history covered those areas in spades. I really thought
you were publishing.
This is a link to my blog concerning that material;
http://generationantichrist.wordpress.com/
I would certainly like to link your site to it but check it out a little
first and decide if its an appropriate request.
...
always best regards
George
- - - 3/11 ~ 3/16/11 LinkedIn contact and connections
- - -8/13/09 response to the creation of the Uncle Jesus web page
- - - 7/17/2009: (All of the information received so far, along with
separate documentation derived from Wikipedia, Google and other sources
justifies the creation of the separate Uncle-Jesus web page in order to
organize all this ASTOUNDING information into one centralized location.)
- - - 7/13/2009: Ben Ciriacks response to prior year email:
subject Re: Cyriac-FHP guestbook submission
Please send me the information regarding Publisher, ISBN number (if
issued), etc. for your book. The first reference to it will be in the
Uncle Jesus (original email had another file which has become obsolete
since then) file regarding the possible appearance of the greek kypiako
(see the web page for the greek alphabet spelling) coincident with the
use of CHI-RHO (local discussion page) to represent Christ by the
earliest Greek Christians. That reference will be on the web page the
day after tomorrow as as soon as I get home from the library with some
more references and pictures to be included and referenced.
We are still looking for the earliest appearance of KYPIAKO (or similar
spellings) before the one we already know about in the middle to late
3rd century in Rome.
[toggle-me] Origin of our Family Name
Origin of our Family Name:
March 13th, 2012: The earliest transcribed form of our family name
comes from a greek reference found within the early 3rd century
unfinished Stomateis or 'Miscellanies' (book VI) written by Clement of
Alexandria , "who died between 211 and 216". Variations of the phrase
are all over the internet, but the presumed original greek is at
Christian_cross (Wikipedia site) with a translation as the Lord's sign.
But, those greek letters kappa upsilon rho iota alpha kappa omega nu
preceded by tau omega and followed by sigma eta mu epsilon omega omicron
nu could also be interpreted as "the Lord's followers' sign" or "the
sign 'of' the followers 'of' the Lord; ie, the Christian's sign". The
nu at the end of the last two words should make them both adjectives -
an interpretation implying that the earliest Greek Christians could have
used the term KYRIAKON to refer to themselves as Christians in an
organizational sense.
And, perhaps not so coincidentally, The Kyriakon (tau omega - kappa
upsilon rho iota alpha kappa omega nu - tou kyriakouon) is the
appellation currently used by the dozens of Christian organizations
living on Holy Mount Athos in Greece to refer to their central meeting
place - shown in the picture to the right.
Whether the term meant the edifice in which members of The Church met,
The Church membership or both the edifice AND its members in the
ancient, pre-4th century Christian Era has yet to be determined. In any
case, our equally ancient family name appears to have been linked,
coincidentally or not, to the origins of Christianity from at least the
early 3rd century. Visit these other web site links to read more about
it all: Christian_cross (2) (3) (4) Clement of Alexandria
AthosHomePage Mount_Athos (Wikipedia site) Karta_Athos
Prodromos_(Mount_Athos) The Kyriakon picture kyriakon discussion
CatholicEncyclopedia Archaeology of the Cross and Crucifix
In order to lend credence to the KYRIAKOS as a 'family name' in your
book, we are also looking for ANY OTHER Greeks with that family name
anywhere in the world during or before the 1st century. I do not see
why it could not also have been an adjunct term used by the Greek
followers of CHI-RHO - it could have been a secular way of identifying
themselves and equated to the "supposed" Aramaic CHRISTIANOI referenced
along with it in your book. In other words, in aramaic (and latin or
other languages) they were referenced as CHRISTIANOI but in greek were
referenced as KYPIAKO, from whence the KYRIAKOS (in Latin and others)
comes.
- - - 8/20/08 second email:
Mr. Ciriac,
I wrote a few months ago because I was writing a book concerning in
part, what is apparently your early family history. I wanted to include
some of your research. I decided against such use of quoted work because
of the nature of the book in order to respect your family's privacy. It
would be ignorant of my to do anything else. At any rate I have enclosed
the book in its current raw form and just wish to thank you for your
research with regard to the early church. I wish you the best sir.
Regards
George
- - - 10/30/07 follow-up:
I forgot to mention chapter 11 of that PDF I sent contains the 1st
mention of Kyriakos and who they were. This will bring it through the
3rd century and into Europe Asia etc
- - - 10/29/07 first email:
COMMENTS: Mr. Ciriacks,
There are complete genealogies of your family name. It is not an
alternate word used for Christian. There was only one family that was
given that name in the 1st and 2nd century. I am writing a book on
their story. If you belong to that family you have a lot to be in awe
about. The appellation "Belonging to the Lord" went to the Desposyni or
Royalty. They were the families of James the Just, Jude, Simeon, Jose,
Joseph. These and their families only held that name so they could be
found. The genealogy I enclosed is referenced by the Davidic families
searching their trees. I found it helpful in my research.
Respectfully
George Eliason
(attached .pdf file)
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Cyriac Kandoth
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Google search (you're on top of the list!)
Cochin/Kerala/India
kandoth.blogspot.com
Cyriac and Syriac
COMMENTS: Hi. You have a very nice website. It looks like you are
also interested in finding the origins of the name. I had always
assumed that the name was just derived from the name of the language -
"Syriac Aramaic". A website on the script is here -
http://www.ancientscripts.com/syriac.html
But I've never seen other examples of people being named after
languages. What are your clues on the relation between the Cyriac name
and the Syriac script?
Thanks and regards,
Cyriac
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[ 10/1/07 Ben Ciriacks reply: Cyriac and Syriac are coincidental
pronunciations of completely different entities so far as I'm aware. I
suspect that the incidences of the first and/or last name Cyriac in
India and the Far East are associated with Christians as opposed to
Hindus, Buddhists, etc. The Cyriac as a Christian name goes back to the
saints of the Roman Church martyred in conjunction with the Final Great
Persecution of Diocletian from around 303 to 310 - one to a young child
dashed to death upon the steps in front of his mother after refusing to
renounce Christianity and the more popular in Europe to an older man who
may have been a close friend of Diocletian from a similarly wealthy
family who was beheaded (with 10,000 other Christian slaves) when the
killing phase of the last persecution began in earnest in 304.
Those names are predated by the Greek name Kyriac or Kyriaco or
Kyriacou/Kyriakou which may have predated Christianity or may have been
how the term "Christian" was said in the ancient greek language - that
mystery is one that a scholar in ancient greek and its history will have
to determine or at least search out.
Thanks for the inquiry - I'll be posting it and this reply to the
website tomorrow or the next day.
Ben Ciriacks ]
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Marina Ciriaco (Cyriaco) Mosella
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Cyriaco, Ciriaco
COMMENTS: Hi my name is Marina Ciriaco Mosella, my city is
Apucarana/Parana/Brazil.
My spelling surname is: Cyriaco, Ciriaco
I've just started my family history and am very surprised with your web
site, it's really amazing!!!
My grandfather's surname spelling was Cyriaco, but in Brazil about 1960
people were not allowed to use the letter 'Y', because it isn't in our
Portughese alphabet - that's why they changed my surname spelling to
Ciriaco. Congratulations
[3/12/07] I've promised myself to write a book like yours about my
family history. Still I know very little:
My grandfather was born in Brazil but in another state far away from
me because I was born in south Brazil 'Parana' and he was born in
'Bahia' almost north. I still don't know about his background because
when I was born he was dead. I've never seen his face just a picture.
I've asked for microfilms (that will allow me to) discover more. All
I know about his birth place is that Italian and Spanish immigrants
came to work there about the 18th century. If and when I discover
something more I'll share with you. OK?
I see you later.
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Guy Houghton
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Cyriax
COMMENTS: I found your website on Google. I was looking generally as
we had not had a Cyriax communication from John Ciriacks of Neenah
Wisconsin for several years. My greatgrandfather Julius Cyriax is
listed on your family tree but the name of his wife appears to be given
as Bokenstein, rather than the correct "Anna Eckenstein"
[ 2/26/07 Ben Ciriacks reply: Thanks for that correction - the
photocopy of a photocopy I used to create the 'Cyriax' tree on my hard
drive showed her surname ending but was too light (faint) in the
beginning of the name - I guessed at Bok but it does look like Eck, too.
]
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Christoper Cyiark
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Cyiark
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anything about it and went to www.ask.com an type my last name in an
came upon ur website. So im asking u, can u please tell me or if u know
anything about my last name to email me back?
REPLY: According to a local Cyiark (who was my realtor for a failed
home sale a couple years ago), which is pronounced the same as my
surname but without the ending 's' (seer-e-ack), the name comes from
Cyriaque (which got changed to Cyriak and then to Cyiark in Louisiana or
such). Although there are many Cyriaque appearing in Africa, including
many world ranking atheletes, we think that variation of the spelling
originated in France but have no proof of that or even if it did
originate (the spelling, that is) in Africa.
The spelling is one of the variations of the Cyriacus or Kyriacou
surname for which the web site was created.
How do you pronounce your surname? What information regarding your
genealogy are you willing to share?
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My grandfather emigrated to the US from Burladingen, at the beginning of
the 20th century. My wife and I floated the Rhein River in April, and
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aight peace
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~ 12:42 PM, Saturday, Aug 2, 2003
Ben Ciriacks & David Saunders [Author]
Milwaukee, WI, USA & (private)
Chiriacka@CasweckGalleries
Kyriakakos Chiarkas Chiriacka
The following emails exchanged between Ben Ciriacks and David Saunders
are summarized below:
= = = ku-rr-ee-ah-ko
CASWECK GALLERIES
Santa Fe, New Mexico
505-988-2966
CASWECKGALLERIES.COM
Pages 90 & 91 of the April 2014 issue of Texas Monthly magazine
has the following write-up:
Artist Ernest Chiriacka's dream of having a gallery in New
Mexico became a reality when Casweck Galleries opened in Santa
Fe in 2010, founded by his daughter, Athene Westergaard and
grandson, Chris Westergaard. Located in the Downtown Arts &
Museum District, the gallery features paintings, illustrations,
and sculpture from the family's collection, ledger art by
Terrance Guardipee, and jewelry by Robin Rotenier.
Born in Manhattan, Ernest Chiriacka (1913-2010) started drawing
at three. He studied under Harvey Dunn at the Grand Central
School of Design and at the National Academy of Design Art
School, and was a lifelong member of the Art Students League of
New York. He began his career as a magazine artist, earned
recognition for his Esquire calendar pin-ups in the 1950s, and
made the leap from commercial to fine art in the 1960s. His
great love was the American West, where he traveled extensively
and painted cowboys, Native Americans, and Westward-bound
pioneers.
This year Casweck Galleries will sponsor its first art
competition for young emerging artists. The winner will receive
$1,000 and a show. The gallery is also developing "The Space"
at Casweck Galleries, an intimate performance venue blending
visual and performing arts. Check the website for more
information.
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Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:42 PM Ben Ciriacks wrote:
Thank you very much.
More about the "numerous" saints Cyriaca and Cyriacus and their
"various" feast days can be seen at www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cfx.htm,
www.Cyriac-FHP.com/csx.htm, www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cqx.htm,
www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cjx.htm and www.Cyriac-FHP.com/ctx.htm - the primary
saint being St. Cyriacus at the Baths at www.Cyriac-FHP.com.csx.htm his
mother, sister or aunt being the www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cfx.htm who is more
detailed at www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cwx.htm. I prefer the August 8th feast
day as the primary one - August seeming to be the hottest, muggiest
month in Rome and the one where most 'persecutions' and other
'entertainments' of the day took place to mollify the masses and keep
them from rioting in the streets due to the miserable weather. (The
Latinized versions of the names are, of course, Dominic and Dominica.)
Based solely upon the information provided in your email, I suspect the
"ka" may have been added to the kos sometime after the 4th century -
maybe to represent family members who didn't subscribe to the
"Christian" beliefs of the rest - the rest being proud of the possibly
Christian-connected identity their name had to the "Lord". It could
have even been added during the Reformation to designate those who
converted over from the Orthodox/Roman Catholicism to any of the
alternatives springing up after that. This is all conjecture and needs
the research of someone who's 'deeply' studied the "true meanings" of
the language used in the 1st through 3rd centuries. (I didn't know the
"kakos" - "bad Lord" definition until your email - that's another very
interesting mystery to be resolved along with the others at our
mysteries (www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cyx.htm) page .)
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Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:57 AM David Saunders wrote:
Please feel free to use this information as you see fit. I will forward
your own interesting info Kyriakos to Chiriacka's family.
Was the saint's name Kyriakos or Kyriakakos? What day is his Saint's
Day? What is the Roman transliteration of that saint's name? It can't
be, "Saint Bad-Lord," because that is just too wacky a name for a saint.
Best wishes, David Saunders
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8/2/03 Saturday, 9:46 AM Ben Ciriacks wrote:
Thanks for the prompt reply and very interesting information. We
already had the Kyriakakos variation (among the 1160) at the Kyriakakos
section of the KY~ spellings page. Your information helps the
genealogical research process immensely and for that reason alone would
warrant inclusion at the web site. Am attaching a file that's now also
included at our Inscriptions (www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cvx.htm) web page that
was created as a result of discovering the Chiriacka name.
The research on our 'Greek' name is, of course, greatly facilitated by
the fact that Kyriakos was one of the first 54 saints identified by the
newly legalized 'Roman' Catholic Church in the 4th century - more likely
as a result of all the inscriptions "in stone" referencing him or others
within the catacombs built in the 3rd century. (My own lineage comes
directly from the Bremen area of Germany and I suspect my Roman-Greek
ancestors fled there from the massive persecutions in the rest of the
Roman Empire at the beginning of the 4th century. Others believe, as I
used to, that we obtained the name from the churches dedicated to Saint
Cyriacus/Kyriakus in Germany but my research made me think that there
was a very large family name Kyriakou throughout the Roman Empire by the
3rd century - possibly in the construction/development business -- my
Bremen, Germany ancestors were 'builders'.)
Can I include any or all of your emailed response at the web site?
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Saturday, August 02, 2003 7:51 AM David Saunders wrote:
Thank you for contacting me about your complex investigation of the
Cyriax. I am the biographer of the artist Ernest Chiriacka and it has
been a complex investigation just to establish his various names. I
happen to be Greek myself, by way of my mother, Eleni Politoupolis, and
it has been a wild ride even to discover my own Greek name origins. The
basic problem with all Greek names is that they are spelled and
pronounced in a unique alphabet that has little direct equivalents to
the alphabet of European languages, and this compells all Greeks to
individually adopt convenient transliterations that are vaguely
compatible with where ever they happen to migrate outside of Greece, and
90% of all Greeks do migrate.
Orginally Ernest Chiriacka was born as Anastassios Kyriakakos, but even
that is a transliteration of the Greek alphabet spelling, but that is a
phonetically accurate equivalent to the Greek name. Anastassios was
raised in New York and many people presumed he was a girl, so he
spontaneously chose Ernest as a first name instead. Kyriakakos, was too
hard for New Yorkers to pronounce, so the family name was changed to
Chiarkas. By the 1920s that name was again revised to Chiriackas. Even
within his own family, the five Kyriakakos children, born between the
years 1910 and 1920, have each evolved their own personal name
revisions, and no two siblings have the same last name. "Kyria" means
"Lord" in Greek and "Kakos" means "bad", so the name means "Bad-Lord" or
"Evil-Lord". [ Nov 10, 2011 update: See Margarita Natsis' guestbook
entry for an interpretation meaning "son of" instead of "evil" or "bad".
6/22/2011 Ben Ciriacks update: In the case of our family name Kyriakos
and its association with the beginnings of Christianity in the 1st three
centuries, the "ka" in the ancient greek of that era could have been
equivalent to our modern term, 'NOT!' In other words, many (if not all)
of those persons using Kyriakos were associated with Christianity, so
those with the same name 'BEFORE' Christianity came about (persons we've
yet to discover) who also wanted to disassociate themselves with the
others (and the Christianity they espoused) may have changed their name
to Kyriakakos to signify that they were "Christianity associated NOT!" ]
That is the complex evolution of this name. I am not sure whether the
current and spontaneously subjective deformity as "Chiriackas" still has
any genuinely traceable relevance to your own research of Cyriax, unless
perhaps the Greek alphabet spelling of Cyriax and Kyriakakos are
themselves related, which does seem possible when you consider the
transliteration of a subjectively phonetic interpretation. "Cyria" and
"Kyria" are obviously the same Greek origins, and "X" and "Kakos" are
also both related alphabetically by the Greek "X" and "K" are the same.
Good Luck on this complex puzzler. David Saunders
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8/1/03 5:32 PM, Ben Ciriacks wrote:
Just discovered your surname last night in the latest Smithsonian
Magazine. Hadn't thought much about that variation of the spelling of
our 2,000 year old surname but it's obviously closer to the original
Greek pronunciation than my own (seer-ee-ax). Have spent most of the
day updating the Cyriac-FHP.com site with new revisions at
Inscriptions.Cyriac-FHP.com and the CA-prefix
(www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cyrialca.htm) pages. (Have another couple days of
work to do searching on the 60 CHI... variations just added - many of
them appear to be in use around the world and should have been included
long ago.)
I'd guess that your name derives from the much more common Italian based
CIRIACO spelling but the CKA ending hints at other origins. Do you have
any information on your family history or genealogy - especially
anything we can share at the web site?
Ben Ciriacks, Webmaster and Author
Web site: ben.ciriacks.com
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Luke Alan Ciriacks
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COMMENTS: Hello from Virginia,
Our family history is interesting indeed. My thanks to those that have
done so much to bring light where there was none.
Growing up in West Bend, Wisconsin, I remember a time when there were
Cyriacks / Ciriacks reunions. Will our children ever experience these
unique reunions? I was fortunate to meet some Cyriacks in Germany,
while I studied abroad, and hope that our great family continues to
learn more about one another and meet.
Sincerely, Luke Alan Ciriacks
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Kessie
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Comments: The Cyriac-FHP webmaster's comments are in red.
Hello, My name is Kirsten and the name of my grandmother's mother was
Martha Catharina Cyriaks, born April 4, 1886 - died May 22, 1955.
My history began 1755 with Bruen Cyriaks. He was married with Beka
Bischofs. And the name of the son was Christopher Cyriaks, born July
4,1784 and died April 13, 1862. The name of his wife was Helena (or
Hillena) Winters Helmken.
Our database shows a birthdate of July 2, 1783 but could be in error -
based upon the memory of a child at the time a marriage or birth was
recorded. Most of our dates came from research done by me in the
Scharmbeck, Germany area in 1972. The Winters middle name and month
and day of his death were not in our database before this email.
(A child in between these two Christophers is another Christopher born
January 27, 1824 along with his twin Johann. Christopher (b1824)
married Margareta Adelheid Helmken on April 25, 1857 - they had five
children -- none of which were twins. Their 5th child, Christoph Herman
Hinrich was born July 25, 1864. The sixth birth was a stillborn child
on March 15, 1865 - one probably also causing the death of Margareta.
Christopher next married one Adelheid Oetjen from Nordwede - they
also had five children -- two sets of which were twins.
The name of the grandson was Christopher Hinrich Cyriaks, born July 25,
1864. He and his wife Adelheid Margaretha had 10 children. Two of
them, John and Herman Henry lived in New York.
As can be seen in the family tree segment at the web site, the
Christopher born on 7/25/1864 died in 1930 and married Anna Budde -
according to information provided to us by their descendents living in
the United States. Although he was one of 10 children, our
information shows that he and Anna had only 4 children - the four
(Katie, Herman, George and May) shown below.
Our family lives in Bremen. The family of the Cyriacs are living in
Bremen and Torfmoor. You have some informations on your site about some
of the people from my family, but I am not sure that it is the same
family.
Sorry,- my english is very bad, but I hope that you have some
information for me of the family. (Your english is very good - much
better than my german.)
Do you know this people:
Katie Cristine, born 1/28/98, married Edgar John
(1 child and 7 grandchildren in our database)
Herman Henry, born 2/16/00, married Norma Bussenschutt
(3 child, 8 grandchild and 5 great grandchildren in our database)
George Herman, born 4/29/92, married Katherine Murphy
(no descendents in our database)
May Adeline. born 9/22/95, married Oscar Mees
(5 child, 12 grandchild and 17 great grandchildren in our
database)
There are children of Herman Henry Cyriacs. He married Christine Budde
and later her sister Mary. (These marriages are not in our database -
we only show the one above to Norma Bussenschutt.)
I hope you give me an answer. With friendly regards. Kirsten
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Hello, thanks a lot for your informations.
I have this informations of Christoph Cyriacs (January 27, 1824 -
October 26, 1898). He married Margaretha Adelheid Oetjen (born
Helmken). They married April 28, 1857.
They have 10 children: [read day.month.year - the convention used
outside the USA]
Adeline 08.01.1858 Torfmoor, Lilienthal - 08.05.1939 Scharmbeck
Lueder, born 24.02.1859 - died 26.12.1938 Bremen
Christoph Hinrich, born 25.12.1860 - died 03.04.1964
Katharina, born 07.01.1863 - died 14.09.1919
Herman Henry, born 25.06.1864 - died 11.01.1930 New York
Stillborn 15.03.1865 - died 15.03.1865
John, born 06.06.1866 - died 23.06.1927 New York
Hinrich, born 06.06.1866 - died ?
Rebecka Anna, born 06.07.1870 - died 05.10.1870
Ernest, born 06.07.1870 - died 11.08.1936 Kleinmoor
The name of Adelheid Margarete Cyriaks (Daughter from Luer Oetjen and
Trien Margareth Helmke) is writen in the familybook of my grandmother.
Her name was Freya Kämke.
One son from Christoph and Adelheid Margarete was Lueder (Lüder) Cyriaks
24.02.1859 - 26.12.1938). He married Meta Catharina Spark 14.03.1861 -
23.09.1923. [Meta Catharina Spark] was the daughter of Claus Spark
(July 28, 1825 - 1882) and Marie Elisabeth Streckswald ( April 5, 1833 -
September 5, 1887) They had three children:
Martha Catharina, Adele and Cornelia.
Martha Catharina married Johann Hasch. They had two children:
Werner and my grandmother Freya Martha Adele.
I found in the family book only one wife of Christoph Cyriaks. I don't
know whether my information is wrong. But in the book is the birthplace
from Adelheid Margarete Oetjen (Helmken), born 2.2.1830, Nordwede.
Here a some informations about my great grandmother:
Martha Catharina Cyriaks, born April 26, 1886, died May 22, 1955. She
married Johann Hasch June 26, 1911. [database=March 22, 1955] She
killed herself with gas in her house in Bremen-Horn.
Her sister Adele Elise Cyriaks went to New York in 1922. The ship
called "George Washington". But Adele came back to germany.
The daughter of Johann Cyriaks and Anna Blume, Mabel (born August
27,1895) was also in germany. I think, she meets the family here. But
I am not sure. The journey was July 28,1926 from Bremen to Southampton
and New York (Name of the ship: "Columbus").
[database has 1923 and 1924 arrivals in New York, also, and indicates
that she never married. She may have been a merchant in New York.]
I have also information about her sister [in law] and her brother:
Sylvia Cyriaks and John Cyriaks. But no birthdate...
[database has Johann Hermann Christopher Cyriaks born June 15, 1898
and died March 1972 or before. He married Sylvia Siegrist, who was
born Aug. 3, 1903 and died Nov. 10, 1996. Some dates are reflected in
the Social Security Death benefits records. The database reflects
their two daughters, one having one daughter and two sons.]
Now I will looking for some more informations of Adelheid Margarete
Oetjen. Married Christoph two times or not? It is very interessting
for me.
I hope you have a wonderfull weekend and I will give you more
information of the family, if you want.
Yours sincerely, Kirsten
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Heather Whitcomb
kyriakou
COMMENTS: my great grandfather from greece had the name aristedes
kyriakou and i was looking for any info on my genealogy he changed his
last name to kayes while living in san francisco he married areti
(papanicolou)? i think he used his cousins passport to come to the us
do you have any info for me
Webmaster response: Sorry, I don't, but can I place your query under
the Kyriakou name at
http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/cyrialky.htm#kyriakou and
http://www.jamrent.com/c/cyrialka.htm#kayes
That might help get you some more information. Including your email
address there may also help but I'll do so only with your permission.
The Kyriakou spelling is among the oldest in the family (going back at
least 20 centuries) - meaning the only way we would be able to establish
a blood line connection would be through DNA testing - something I
imagine is still a decade or more away for genealogists. In the
meantime, I have no doubt we are all part of the same family that
originated in Greece and may have some history there going back several
centuries B.C.
By copy of this reply I'm sending your original message to the only
other people I know of with affinity to the Kyriacou spelling - you all
might want to share information you have with each other - and with me
for the web site if it's not too personal -- I consider anything after
the year 1900 to be personal and will not put it on the web site but can
put it with whatever else I have on my hard drive family tree.
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cyriac joseph
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Chavara, Cyriac, Elias, Kuriakose & Kuruvila
COMMENTS: Thanks for the reply. I gladly give you permission to add my
query and to do the rest to expand this unique site.
I didn't notice that Kuriakose Elias is already in the site. Actually
my father comes from South Kerala, the home town of Chavara Kuriakose
(cyriac) Elias.
In fact I once visited his burial place and a seminary (CMI) where
Cyriac Chavara once lived and served.
Once again my hearty greetings.
Cyriac Joseph.
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Friday, August 24th 2001 - 08:05 PM
Ben (Theriault) Ciriacks
Milwaukee, WI
ben.ciriacks.com
Chavara, Cyriac, Elias, Kuruvila, Puthenpura
COMMENTS: Glad to hear from you. I don't know what Kuruvila means and
presume you can find out faster than I. How is it pronounced? Can't
find it now but I think a Father Cyriac Puthenpura was from Kerala. Our
Notables web page shows:
CYRIAC ELIAS CHAVARA, co-founder and first Prior General of the
Carmelites of Mary Immaculate (CMI), was born in Kerala in India, on
10th February 1805. ...
That's the only reference we have to Kerala on the web site. It would
help the web site tremendously if you could repeat your email message
and add whatever else you want to our Cyriac Family History Project
guestbook at:
http://Guestbook.Cyriac-FHP.com
(Or, if that's a problem, just give me permission to do so, and I'll
clone your email message to the guestbook for you.)
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Friday, August 24th 2001 - 08:28 AM
Cyriac Joseph Padavil
Canada via South Kerala, India
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Cyriac, Kuruvila
Surfing the internet
COMMENTS: Hi Ciriacks,
I am Cyriac Joseph from Kerala, South India. I am a student in Canada
for a while. I am so glad to learn the historical and spiritual
background of my first name for the first time!
I come from a Roman Catholic family, and my parents gave me this name
according to a custom of giving grandfather's name to the firstborn baby
boy.
My grandfather's name was KURUVILA, which I got as Cyriac. Do you know
what Kuruvila means?
Thanks for your effort to create the site.
God bless you,
With regards,
Cyriac Joseph Padavil.
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July 18, 2001 at 07:40:01
Ben (Theriault) Ciriacks
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
ben.ciriacks.com
Created it.
Cirieco < Ciriaco < Cyriac
This posting is cloned from message #1 at
genforum.genealogy.com/cirieco/messages/1.html
COMMENTS: The www.cyriac-fhp.com Cyriac Family History Project has been
working on our 2,000 year old family surname for the past 30 years.
It's evident that the name was most popular in ancient times in the area
of Rome and other parts of the far flung Roman Empire. Early
individuals were Greeks named Cyriaca (female) and Cyriacus (male) of
the 3rd and 4th centuries in Rome.
It's apparent that Ciriaco, a very popular modern Italian spelling
(relatively speaking) is probably the origin of Cirieco, but we know of
no Cirieco surnamed individuals out there. Anyone care to step forward
here.
Go to ben.ciriacks.com for my personal page and see St. Cyriacus for the
most prominent of the ancient Rome based saints who is probably a
distant cousin or uncle of us all. His mother, aunt, sister or cousin
may have been St. Cyriaca
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26 Apr 2001 Thu 9:58 AM
Jared Cyriacks
(obsolete)
COMMENTS: Hello,
I know it has been a long time since I last e-mailed you, but I wanted
to say hello. I was especially excited by the opening of the new Ellis
Island web-site. I was just finally able to get onto their site today
after several attempts. Apparently they were getting an astounding
amount of hits on their server and were unable to handle the load.
I was able to do a search on the Cyriacks name. The search returned 10
names, along with the date of arrival, place of origin, age upon arrival
and ship that they traveled on.
If you are unable to get through to the site yourself, let me know and I
can e-mail you the information I found so far.
For a long time I have been interested in learning about the first
members of our family to arrive her in America. Hopefully this site,
along with the information from your vast research can help to narrow it
down even more.
Have a good day.
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Monday 11/01/1999 8:37:05pm
Richard Mangels
(no longer valid)
Yahoo!
New York
Cyriack Cyriacks Mangels
This email was lost for a decade inside another, long defunct online
guestbook that was still in one of several backup hard drives - it was
placed here where it belongs on August 15, 2008. Our common ancestry
for Richard's Grandmother, Adelaide Cyriacks-Mangles, can now be found
online at: www.ortsfamilienbuecher.de. Click here to go to our local
page.
COMMENTS: My Grandmother's name was Adelaide Cyriack, She was killed in
1921 on the Staten Island Ferry. The car that she and my Grandfather,
Richard Mangels, were in was the 1st car that would have gotten off when
they reached the other side. My Grandparent's, my Dad and his younger
sister were in the car when a wave hit the ferry from the back, the car
slid forward and the car went off the ferry, drowning my Grandmother,
who was 8 month's pregnant. Everyone got out except my Grandmother,
after the car reached the bottom of New York Bay. She is buried in
Brooklyn, in a church cemetary. My Sister and I would like to find out
more about our Grandmother Adelaide and other family members.
Could you please point me in the right direction on your web site, my
sister has viewed it and found what appears to be a mention of an
Adelaide Cyriak. (tree image & web site)
Thank you and regards, Richard Mangels, III
Webmaster (Ben Ciriacks) response: Tuesday 11/02/1999 5:48:07pm
Thanks, Richard, for that history of your grandmother. Prior to
that we didn't know anything about you guys. As indicated in a private
email to your wife, and just now updated to include her tragic story,
your grandmother, Adelaide (Cyriacks) Mangels can be seen at our Cyriac
Family History Project's Claus & Metta page.
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Fri, 6 Aug 1999 22:23:16 -0700 (PDT)
Stephan Cyriacus
Leipzig, Germany
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Cyriacus, Cyriacks, Cyriax, Ciriacks, Kiriakos, et al
COMMENTS: Thank you very much for your e-mail. We are about 20
Cyriacus living in Germany today. There are 3 different families with
no obvious relation. My family is living in Leipzig since about 1600
AD. Previous information is lost due to the 30-year-war 1618-1648. I
saved your data and will come back to you with more info. Attached is
exerpt from my program: descendants of unknown forefather (not complete
nor reliable).
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Ruben J. Ciriacks
COMMENTS: In reply to your inquiry, the best place to find out more
about me is on the web site itself. Go to the following pages thereat:
some personal data & pictures
Cyriax page of website
You should check back into the Cyriax page every few months. It'll
contain the most accurate date regarding what I consider to be the
oldest form of spelling the family name. The entire Cyriac Family
History Project web site has hundreds of pages, images and charts, so
check it out to see the history of our name. There's absolutely no
doubt that Ciriacks, Cyriacks, Cyriax, Ciriack, Zirjacks, Ciriaco and
numerous others are the same name. The question is are we related to
each other? I think we all are and have been proving it for the past 30
years.
My method is to merely collect everything mentioning the name, including
genealogical data with full names and dates, and then worry about tying
it together at some later date. The Cyriax members of the family have
the most unconnected branches. I was just working on them this morning
and realized I'll have to freshen the way I've listed them on my
computer in order to notice relationships much easier. Yours is an
entirely new branch, which won't be put on the tree until I have your
grandfather's name. Having the names of his children, including your
father and mother will help but isn't necessary to connect him to his
ancestry.
You are one of the few Cyriax with that form of the name left in the
world, apparently. It's about to die out completely in the USA. My
records show no 1883 birth but that isn't significant. Send me the
exact year, month, day and full names of both your grandfather and his
wife, if you have them, and I'll keep track and make a note to let you
know when we've tied them into another branch somewhere.
We don't publish information regarding individuals in the family born
after 1900 on the web site (there are thousands) but do keep records so
that individuals can know their own genealogy.
Over the past four decades, I've concentrated my research on the family
history occurring before 1900, mostly the dead members and the
appearance of the name, while my oldest brother Jack has been collecting
histories and communicating with living members all over the world. He
just came back from Canada and is on his way to France to research the
French (my mother's) Acadian side of our own family. He's met many of
the Cyriax in Germany, Britain and the USA but hasn't met any from South
Africa so far as I can recall.
[ In the process of updating my files this morning, a task having been
put off for the past two decades, I came across an article in one of our
annual family newsletters that stated that one of the British Cyriax
said my brother Jack looked just like her other relative, so our
relationship is being proved all the time. Those Cyriax, including the
world renown Dr. James Cyriax of orthopedic fame, are all descended from
ancestors from the Erfurt area of Germany. While the name itself is
Greek, our most recent orgins are in Germany. ]
Enough for now. Visit the other pages of the site. Check out what's
there regarding the Cyriax and send me more information and questions.
I look forward to the feedback - especially regarding questions needing
answers that can be placed on the web site itself.
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Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:36:27
Dieter Cyriax
Namibia, Africa
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Cyriax
COMMENTS: Hi Ruben,
I am currently trying to trace my family name CYRIAX. Seeing that it is
such an unusual name, it is also much more difficult to find some thing.
But let me tell you about myself. My name is Dieter M. F. Cyriax born
in 1953 in Swakopmund, Namibia (formally South West Africa). I am of
german origin and managed to go back only to my grand father who was
born in 1883 in Weimar, Germany. He then came to Namibia where he got
married and started a family. Since then our family lives in Namibia.
Please tell me more about yourself. It will be nice hearing from you.
20 Sep 2001: If anyone should visit Namibia, they are more than welcome
to contact me.
Click Namibia to go to that page for more.
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Ben Ciriacks (To: Paul Ciriacks)
COMMENTS: Thanks. ... found Verano in a book about the Christian
Cemeter(ies) of Rome. It's apparently a public cemetery just across
from the former Ciriaca and now Saint Lawrence Cemetery off the Tiburian
Way in (eastern) Rome. The cartilio/cartilius is moot. The inscription
seems to only show 'CAR' an abbreviation for something as yet unfound in
other inscriptions, so far. [ 5/27/00 update: Carissimo, dearest,
appears to be a better translation for the CAR abbreviation than
cartillo. ]
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Paul Ciriacks
Long Beach, CA
COMMENTS: Hey Uncle Ben, ... "verano" in Spanish means "summer." ...
"cartilla" in Spanish means "notebook." Paul
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Ben Ciriacks (To: John Ciriacks)
COMMENTS: What with hundreds of hits, I've yet to see anything
regarding the exact circumstances of Cyriacus death on August 8th, 304.
The attached file may have it. Is your German exchange student still
around? If so, can you ask him to please translate and return same to
me for inclusion in the web site?
We obviously need someone in the German branch of the family who can
translate to do so on the dozens of web pages that are "GREEK" to me
right now.
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John Ciriacks (To: Ben Ciriacks)
COMMENTS: Also the Roman soldier Cyriacus who was slain in 304 with his
6 brothers sounds like a favorite song on our Christian radio station of
"Forty Brave Soldiers for Christ." They were put out on the ice in
Turkey in the winter to freeze to death since they would not sacrifice
to the Emperor.
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Ben Ciriacks (To: John Ciriacks)
COMMENTS: The challenge will be for individuals to find information
that's not already contained at the web site regarding Cyriacus. HINT:
When searching, use the "riac" portion of the name as the only unique
portion common to various languages, countries, etc. If possible,
eliminate Syriac from the search process to minimize the hits found.
I found over a 1000 hits on Cyriac or some derivation thereof (can't
remember, now) and only looked at around 300 of them, so there is some
stuff out there, especially in the Middle ages forward to be found. I'm
concentrating on the Pre-400 A.D. era via the Argos search engine.
Enjoy. I would have never believed two weeks ago that this would turn
out to be as interesting as it is.
(Oh, yes, if anyone has time, it'd be nice to find some PUBLIC DOMAIN
gif files, especially colored maps of the various regions and countries,
that could be added to the web site. I don't have the time to do the
actual searching, or conversion from .doc to .gif file process, but will
download the already ready file and place it at the web site if someone
gives me the URL where it's located.)
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Westfall Stephen
U. of Marburg, Germany
COMMENTS: The name Cyriacus/-kus was quite common in many villages
throughout northern Hessen , the area my ancestors came from. Local
naming customs, children were usually named after relatives or unrelated
villagers, were responsible that the name always was in use, as long as
these naming customs prevailed. In some villages or families up to the
1930s or so.
Although most villages in the area are and have been Protestant since
the Reformation, names of saints sometimes were used. Cyriacus happens
to be one of these.
How your family obtained that name is hard to say, since most surnames
became established in times when no records were kept or of which none
have survived. The genitive ending "-s" seems to indicate that one of
your ancestors was a son of Cyriacus and for some reason this became the
name for the whole family and all descendants.
By the way, there is a village not far from where I live called
Cyriaxweimar.
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5 May 1998
Ben Ciriacks
Milwaukee, WI
Ben.Ciriacks.com
So, as has probably happened dozens (2001=?thousands?) of times over the
past two millennium, another 'branch' of our VAST family was begun -
with a major impact. As it turns out, my great grandfather, Hinrich
Cyriacks, has more than 400 (2001=500) descendants, making the Wisconsin
Ciriacks both uniquely identifiable and the largest of the dozen
branches in the USA - almost all of which have been traced, back to a
common ancestor born in the 17th century.
We know our mysterious Uncle Hermann (1861 ~ ???), who disappeared
?subsequent to his arrival?, intended to come to the USA, because
he had his wooden footlocker shipped to his older brother Claus
Hinrich in Jackson, Wisconsin around 1878. This trunk, with the
surname 'CYRIACKS' inscribed in high german with a tail under the
first I that made it a Y, had been passed along to Uncle Pete (as
senior member of the Jackson/West Bend area family) who brought it
along to our 1969 "watershed" mini-reunion at ... (well, the rest
of that story is contained, with pictures, here.)
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Ben Ciriacks (To: John Ciriacks)
COMMENTS: ... Will be more than happy to add information when received
but am really hoping that we find at least one family member interested
in each of the various personages, especially those fluent in the
languages containing most of the relevant research, to be able to take
them on as their own project. Anyone can E-Mail me their text, in HTML
or ASCII format, and I'll upload it.
Think it would be great for each family, or more specifically, each
family member who is interested in maintaining it, to establish their
own Web site and pages. ...
Most of the time involved in any web site is spent during the creation
process. In our case, that was merely in typing the ... separate files
making up the English, German, St. Cyriacus and Ciriaco De' Pizzicoli
pages. Once that information is created, it's a fairly simple process
to convert it to HTML format for uploading to the site.
... Am more than willing to help others get going or even upload what
they have on my site until it gets too full BUT THEY will have to do the
initial typing and send it to me as an E-MAIL, preferably in HTML
format. I'll edit it for TITLE LINES, underlining, background color and
whatever, UNLESS IT'S SENT already HTML formatted and the accompanying
text indicates to upload it AS IS. ...
One can get an idea of how I did it by downloading any page, C?X.HTM (or
C?X.HTML for those using 4 digit extensions) and look at the code. It's
very simple and basic without frames, graphics, fancy coloring or
whatever. All that's nice but requires a lot more effort ... and makes
editing the text portion of the original document a lot harder.
Well, let me know what gives. Send me material to upload or request
specific help about what's needed to upload and maintain your (each CC:
addressee included) own web site and I'll do what I can as soon as
possible. (..., it's not very difficult for hackers or others with
knowledge about computers and web sites to get access to any hidden site
- so don't anyone think these are REAL secure sites. They aren't and,
therefore, shouldn't contain anything anyone doesn't want the whole
[internet] world to know about.)
Signing off at 14:56 CST, Milwaukee, Ben.
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John Ciriacks (To: Ben Ciriacks)
Neenah, WI, USA
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COMMENTS: ... stories are a good way to keep an updated version of what
we know. After May 13 ..., I'll email you more about Ciriaco of Ancona
(1391-1452?). He met Albrecht Durer of Nuremberg ... sparked my
interest in Durer, whose delightful home/workshop in the old section of
Nuremberg Bob and i toured last July ...
Re: St. Cyriacus, I asked Patrick Pondl to look up in German books when
he is home about this saint, ...
Sun, 03 May 1998 11:11:39: What you do think of starting a page like
the Cyriacks/etc. of Etelsen/Baden, Germany/USA ...? Also for the
Theriault family of ...?
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Ben Ciriacks (To: John Ciriacks)
COMMENTS: Thanks for the updated Email address list. Here's some more
found within the Compuserve membership. Though the direct link hasn't
been found between the Ciriacks/Cyriacks from the Bremen area and the
Cyriax, Ciriack, Cyriak/Cyriaks, Cyriacus/Cyriakus, Cyriaque/Cyriac and
Ciriaco of various other parts of Europe, I'm almost 95% sure we're
distantly related through the origins in Greece to Italy to Germany and
from Greece, Italy and Germany to France, the UK & United States and the
rest of the world. ...
Internet (USA) telephone book searches:
There are 40 Ciriacks and 1 Ciriack ... found in these 11 states:
AZ=1 CA=1 CO=2 CT=1 FL=1 IL=2 KS=1 MN=2 NM=2 NY=1 WI=27
As for Cyriacks, there are 28 in these 13 states:
AK=1 CA=3 CO=1 FL=2 HI=1 KS=1 MN=5 NE=5 NJ=2 NY=4 OK=1 SD=1 WV=1
The 13 Cyriax are reflected in these 7 states:
AZ=2 FL=1 MI=2 NJ=4 BY=2 VA=1 WA=1
30 Ciriaco in:
AZ=1 CA=4 CO=1 FL=1 MD=1 NJ=4 NY=1=2 OH=3 OK=1 TX=1 VA=1
3 Cyriacus: 0 Cyriaks 0 Cyriakus ?? Cyriak(NeedToSearch)
CA=1 NJ=2
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Edna M. Ciriacks
Milwaukee, WI, USA
COMMENTS: The last paragraph of a letter sent in late 1966 was the real
beginning of all the genealogical efforts accomplished on both the and
Terriau family names. It indicates the nascent thoughts regarding
genealogical research that eventually resulted in the family picnics in
West Bend, Wisconsin.
Upon Edna's telephoning, urging and organizing, the first of those
picnics was held in 1969 at the old covered bridge park in Jackson.
(The picture shows Ben, Jack & Nancy's oldest daughter Lynne and Grandpa
Al.)
The second, slightly larger reunion among a dozen or so
participants, was on Saturday, September 6th, 1969, also in Jackson, at
Uncle Pete's artesian lake picnic area at the intersection of highways
60 & 45 - we called him Uncle Pete but he was really our 2nd cousin once
removed. Both of those first two reunions were fairly small in
attendance but large in impact upon the creation of a record of our
family history. {Nannette's future husband Chuck came to the latter
reunion - he having just met her the previous evening at Octoberfest at
the Bavarian Wursthaus in Milwaukee -- she telling him about the reunion
but then not showing up herself.) The 2nd reunion had the old wooden
trunk with the spelling:
We know our mysterious Uncle Hermann (1861 ~ ???), who disappeared
?subsequent to his arrival?, intended to come to the USA, because
he had his wooden footlocker shipped to his older brother Claus
Hinrich in Jackson, Wisconsin around 1878. This trunk, with the
surname 'CYRIACKS' inscribed in high german with a tail under the
first I that made it a Y, had been passed along to Uncle Pete (as
senior member of the Jackson/West Bend area family) who brought it
along to our 1969 "watershed" mini-reunion at ... (well, the rest
of that story is contained, with pictures, here.)
INDEX TO GUESTBOOK SUBMISSIONS:
Ancona
Argentina
Arthur, King (5th century) [updated 3/17/14]
Bachemin, Fabio
Beginnings
Bell, Brad
Buckley
CAR & Verano
Casweck Galleries
Chiriaco(Summit)
Chiarkas, Erica
Chiriacka, Ernest-Artist
Cirak/Cirák
Ciriaci 12th century discovery
Ciriacks, Ben
Ciriacks, Edna M.
Ciriacks, Jean
Ciriacks, John
Ciriacks, Luke
Ciriacks, Paul
Ciriaco of Ancona
Ciriaco Mosella, Marina
Cirieco
Ciriack, Elmer obit
Ciriackes brothers
Coffin, Dawn
Condon, Dan
Csorna/Cyriacus de Serna
Cyiark, Christoper
Cyriac Joseph Padavil
Cyriac Kandoth
Cyriac of Ancona
Cyriac, Vivan Mathew
Cyriacks Mangels, Adelaide
Cyriacks, Fred 2 Hollywood mansions
Cyriacks, Juergen
Cyriacks, Jurgen
Cyriaco Mosella, Marina
Cyriacus, Stephan
Cyriacus' death
Cyriacus' surname
Cyriacus de Serna/Csorna
Cyriax-Africa
Cyriax-Africa response
Cyriax-Cyriacus connections
Cyriax, Kortney
Cyriaxweimar
Czirak/Czirák
Eliason, George-Author
Ss. Felicity & Perpetua
Ferryboat tragedy
Garcia, Heather (ChiriacoSummit)
GRAIL/GWRIC [updated 3/17/14]
Hanson, Edna
HollywoodFredMansions: 8/17/70 • 2/28/71 • 3/8/71 • 3/24/76 • 5/21/2014
Houghton, Guy
Kandoth, Cyriac
Kessie, Kirsten
Klaus
Kuriakose
Kuruvila
Kyriakis, Sergio
Lankershim Blvd Mansion
Leibold, Robert
Leipzig Cyriacus thread
Mangels, Richard (Adelaide Cyriacks-Mangels)
Mansions-2 Hollywood Fred
Marucchi book refs
Massimo, Gustavo
Mosella, Marina Ciriaco
McKenzie, Celia Updated: 1/7/2011
Mgbada, Mr.
Namibia
Natsis, Margarita
Padavil, Cyriac Joseph
Ss. Perpetua & Felicity
"Peter the Great" movie dog shot
research beginnings
Saunders, David-Author Genesis
searching on surnames
Sire, Paul-Author (Cyr Quiriacus) [updated 3/17/14]
telephone book finds
U. of Missouri Ciriaci find
Verano & CAR
web site creation help
Westvall, Stephen
Whipple St Mansion
Whitcomb, Heather
Wright, Diana-Author1/8~12/2011updated
Zier, William David
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Website link/location/URL: http://www.Cyriac-FHP.com
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