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 CYRIAC FAMILY HISTORY PROJECT NEWS (Chronological most ancient first)

 -5th century

 Page 22 of Paul Sire's "KING ARTHUR'S EUROPEAN REALM, New Evidence from
 Monmouth's Primary Sources" book has:

   "In the 5th century BC, Herodotus described the Sarmatians as the
   descendants of Scythian fathers and Amazon mothers. ... They became the
   Sauromatians who lived on the plains between the Black and Caspian seas.
   ..."

 Until DNA discoveries find a link going back to 'other' Celtic ancestors
 before this and pending current DNA confirmation of our 'discoverable' links
 to this area of the world, Ben Ciriacks believes that our oldest and most
 recent 'discoverable' family ancestry does lie in this area of the
 'Caucasian' world.

 -1st century

 -1+ centuries - Any pre-Christian era data relevant to the spelling of our
 family name and its usage as such would disassociate it from having been
 created in conjunction with the formation of Christianity.  The primary
 example of what is being talked about can be found by clicking KYRIOS.

 1st century

 44 - Within a decade or two of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, Greeks,
 greek speaking Jews and others gather together in Antioch to begin
 organizing what will become Christianity - the term =Kupiako=Kyriakou, if
 not already a family name of the era, may have been invented simultaneous
 with the ancient term for Christianity and the CHI-RHO Sigla (local
 discussion page) by these organizers.  [ None of these organizers may have
 witnessed the crucifixion or even talked with anyone who had. ]
 70 - an underground cemetery exists in Jerusalem which has symbology
 identified with the earliest beginnings of Christianity.  It is discovered
 in the middle of the 20th century.  Engraved onto one of the tombstone
 slabs is the earliest evidence of icon for Christ, the Chi-Rho symbol, aka
 the Chi-Rho sigla.

 2nd century

 May 4, 133 - A Quiriacus is said to have suffered martyrdom in Hadrian's
 reign in Jerusalem.  He and the 4th century Bishop of Ancona of similar
 name and association with Jerusalem are often confused with each other.
 (See Quiriacus and Jerusalem.)

 3rd century

 225 - Gallienus Quiriacus is recognized as the senior royal heir while
 serving as Prefect of Provence.

 The first reference to any form of the spelling of our family surname
 comes within the first two decades of the 3rd century when Clement of
 Alexandria ( Christian_cross (Wikipedia site) ) uses in a discussion of
 symbols used by the earliest Christians.

 late 2nd ~ early 3rd century- Author Sextus Julius Africanus uses the term
 desposyni when referring to members of the family of the Savior, Jesus
 Christ.  Others have referenced Kyriakou named individuals as part of this
 family.  See the discussion at our Uncle Jesus page.

 The House of Cyriac is very active in Christian history within the tumultuous Period of
 Military Anarchy encompassing half of the 3rd century.

 Bishop Cyprian of Carthage (200~9/14/258) is a prolific writer whose
 documents were not destroyed for them not all being in Rome at the time of
 the Final Great Persecution (303~310±).  In other words, his recordings of
 events in the forms of letters to other notables in the Mediterranean area
 provide us with some of the details about those events.

    4th century

 August 8, 303 - one of several dates associated with our Cyriacus at the
 Baths (of Diocletian).

 A patrician family reference regarding Cyriacus at the Baths (of
 Diocletian).

 June 16 & July 15, 303/4/? - Dates associated with the child and his
 mother, Cyr and Julitta, martyred in the area of Tarsus and whose
 legend(s) were brought back to France and England by the Crusaders.

 circa 300~334 - Historia ecclesiastica ... (Eusebius c263~5/30/339)

 circa 314 - De mortibus persecutorum (Lactantius 250~321?)
 Depositio Martyrum prepared as part of the Chronographer of A.D. 354 which
 re-created the records of the Church in Rome that were destroyed during
 the Final Great Persecution (303~310±).

 An unknown, earliest greek source for various martyrologies
 (mis)translated (and embellished) into various other languages over time -
 with many of those translations, especially from the easy to mistranslate
 latin, being further misinterpreted and/or embellished with fictional
 'improvements' over the centuries.  The CatholicEncyclopedia Martyrology
 says the original greek narrative was written in Nicomedia,  Now known as
 Izmit (Turkey), Nicomedia was the Capitol of the Roman Empire at the end
 of the 3rd and beginning of the 4th centuries.  The original greek
 narrative of the 'acts of the saints' was most likely instigated by
 Constantine during his reign from 306~337 after he had legalized
 Christianity and encouraged its rebirth from the ashes of the Final Great
 Persecution (303~310±).

 May 4, 361 - Date of commemoration/(martyrdom) for St. Cyriacus (the
 converted former Jewish official of Jerusalem) - he possibly one of first
 persons of the newly legalized Christian Church of Rome to take the name
 of the martyr associated with the Titulus assigned to him upon his
 ascension to become Bishop of Ancona in the mid-4th century.  He is also
 mis-associated  with the 2nd century Bishop of Jerusalem of similar name
 who may have been a Desposynic member of the family of Jesus.  [ The
 limited number of Tituli are now routinely assigned to some newly promoted
 Cardinals who also become part of the college assigned to elect new Popes
 - the Cardinal designation was yet to be assigned to these high ranking
 Bishops in the early 4th century. ]

 The CYRIACEV reference located in Aquila, Italy found prior to 1972 by
 James Henry Cyriax was found online early in the 21st century.

    5th century

 See the 1/22/14:  Paul Sire guestbook entry regarding the connection of
 our family name to the Arthurian history/legend.  5th & 6th centuries
 overview

 September 29 - Cyriakus/Kypiakos/Ruhan (Anchorite, hegumenos, hermit,
 Recluse of Souka, 'benefactor of the Church Nea of Theotokos, Jerusalem',
 Wanderer), born 448 in Corinth, Greece; died (September 29), 557 (108+
 years old); writer/transcriber who may be associated with many of the
 texts regarding ancient Christianity and the Middle East.

 Acta Cyriaci (latin) or ... (greek) may be about Cyriacus at the Baths and
 the post-death, pre-beatification, 'saintly' influence he had on Judas
 Cyriaci/Cyriacus/Quiriacus (the early 4th century Jew) and possibly
 others.  (We have yet to see the full text, in any language, of the whole
 Acta Cyriaci.)

 Hieronymian_Martyrology (Wikipedia site) which, according to
 CatholicEncyclopedia Martyrology was NOT written by St. Jerome but was
 written before the 6th century and comes from some earlier Greek source.
 (See 4th century, immediately above.)

    6th century

 See the 1/22/14:  Paul Sire guestbook entry regarding the connection of
 our family name to the Arthurian history/legend.  5th & 6th centuries
 overview

 536 - Around this time something happened to cause an almost century long
 era of global cooling - possibly a very large volcanic eruption
 (?Krakatau?)) that spewed so much dust into the air that the world-wide
 climate was affected.

 September 29 - Kypiakos the Anchorite (448~557) (see 5th Century, above)
 Heryaqos of Oxyrhynchus (Al-Bahnasa)      [ Some of the authors included
 with variations of our family surname may or may not also have had the
 research of family genealogy as part of their writing endeavours. ]

 The Sire book has (page 80) has:

   founded by a 6th-century monk called Quirce and the above-mentioned St.
   Quirce villages are located between the two mountain sanctuaries that
   are mentioned in the Romance of Melusine ...

    7th century

 625~638 - Sometime during his pontificate, Pope Honorius I built a small
 church over the site of Cyriacus at the Baths (of Diocletian) grave ?on
 the Via Ostiensis?  (source)

    8th century

 Bede (Beda) c673~5/26/735 is said to have written about the more prominent
 members of the family in Rome - the actual writings have yet to be
 discovered anywhere.  Bede may have had DNA connections to the family.

    9th century

 898 [Sire book] - a church (St. Quirce de Pedrer or St. Quirce de Besora)
 is consecrated in the Ausona & Urgell area with the charter signed by a
 notable called Quiricus - this is all the new hearland of the Grail
 Family.

 885 June 16 - Total Eclipse of the Sun (5 minutes) on the feast of St.
 Cirici [ Sire book pp 60~1 ]

 Martyrology of Ado (of Vienne c???~12/16/874) is another written source
 that has yet to be discovered.

 843 ~ 859 circa [Sire book] Cult of St. Cyr that had been suppressed by
 the Merovingians in France is

   revived during the time of the Carolingians when the relics of the saint
   were taken from the Church of St. Amator, at Auxerre, to Nevers.  This
   "revival" seems closely related to the family of King Giric, although
   the Church of Nevers was dedicated to the saint just before King Giric's
   reign.  A document from the cartulary of the church, which mentions a
   Bishop "Heriman," tells us that it must be dated sometime between 843
   and 859, and the bishop's name provides a vital clue for tracing the
   "Grail Family."  The Church of Nevers had previously been dedicated to
   St. Gervasius, who is also mentioned in the founding document of St.
   Cyr.  ...

 817 - Pope Paschal I transfers Cyriacus at the Baths relics from their
 location on the Via Ostiense.  (source)  And, his cult (of the saints)
 spreads to Bamberg, Neuhausen in Worms and Speyer.  (source)

    10th century

 993 - Cyriacus at the Baths' (of Diocletian) patronage of the St. Cyriak
 Monastery in Sulzburg is recorded in the Breisgau.  (source)

 974 - The Abbaye saint Cyriaque d'Altorf is consecrated.  (source)

 961 circa -  St. Cyriacus at Gernrode 1  2  3  4  church is built by
 Margrave Gero.  This appears to be the FIRST concrete evidence of the
 official recognition of Cyriacus in the area that is now Germany.  We
 suspect that the family fled Rome and the Final Great Persecution at the
 beginning of the 4th century - with a significant portion maybe settling
 in this then still outside the control of the Roman Empire area.  It's
 likely that the family promoted the memory of their most honored member -
 Cyriacus at the Baths (of Diocletian).

 930 [Sire book] - The Viscount of Scarlarum references his brother-in-law,
 Viscount Odo (Odolrici of Santo Cirico) in a will in the Rocamadour area
 300 miles south of Auxerre in Lot. (St. Cyr of Rocamadour also
 referenced.)

    11th century

 early - Emperor Basil II (976~1025) orders a revision of the Synaxarion
 first prepared in the previous century (per Synaxarium (Wikipedia site) )

 1049 - The Abbaye saint Cyriaque d'Altorf receives its required relic from
 Pope Leo IX, grandson of the founder of the monastery.  (source)

 1096 - Pope Urban II calls for the First Crusade.

 ... poor church of St. Cyriacus is referenced in an unattributed source
 document associated with Sicily or an unnamed site near Jerusalem and the
 Crusades of the era.

    12th century

 An unknown author prepares a written Ciriaci martyrology reference.  The
 front and back of a leaf from the 12th century manuscript in the
 
   Fragmenta Manuscripta collection
   Special Collections and Rare Books
   Ellis Library
   University of Missouri was uploaded as part of a blog posting on August 8th, 2012.

 1199 - Friderik of Ptuj defeats the Hungarians in a battle named after the
 day it was fought, Velika Nedelja (Great Sunday or Easter).
 Nedelja/Nedelya/Nedjelja is equivalent to Kyriaki/Kiriaki.

    13th century

 1226 ~ 1266 - Csorna, Hungary becomes a significant locale associated with
 our family history.  "... hero soldier Vezekényi Zyriacus, ancestor of the
 Cziraky family" is granted lands in the area of what is now called Cirák
 (and probably the neighboring Dénesfa) - the community had been called
 Czirák until 20th century Hungarian language changes transpired.

 Cyriaxweimar (Wikipedia site) has:

     " Cyriax Weimar was first mentioned in 1258 as Ciliacis Wymaare."

 4/4/10:  Hessen Register der Ortsnamen has Cyriaxweimar (Landkreis
 Marburg-Biedenkopf) referenced for both Sente Cyliacs Wymar & Sente
 Cyriakis Wymere.  Bauerbach_(Marburg) (Wikipedia site) has the closest
 Saint Cyriakus church found, so far, in the immediate area of
 Cyriaxweimar.  (See the Germany locale entry for other Cyriax & Cyriaxhof
 locales, the latter in the Cyriaxweimar area.)

 2/25/09:  Its location near Marburg is confirmed in a news report of an
 automobile accident discovered via Google Alert.

       August 11th, 2010:  A german to english translation of the
       Gnadenaltar 14 Holy Helpers page for Heiliger Cyriacus brings us the
       following  information:
         his relics were dispersed to various European churches from the
         10th century onward;
         his tomb was originally located on the Via Ostia in Rome;
         the Battle of Mühlberg was fought on Cyriakus Day 1266 [ August
         8th - Another source refers to it as the famous battle of Cyriakus
         near Sulzfeld ];
         he is a patron saint for wine in the Palatinate region;
         he is greatly revered in the Central and Upper Rhine region;
         Bamberg Cathedral holds an arm relic.

      List_of_battles_(alphabetical)  Coordinates (all North and East):
       Badon 51º23' 2º21'44
       WestBergtheim 49º54' 10º04'
       Estenfeld 49º50' 10º01'
       Gramschatz 49º56' 9º58'
       Kitzingen 49º44' 10º10'
       Mühlberg  49º49' 10º01'
       Poland    52º    19º    
       Red Cross Cyriaci
       Ptuj      46º25' 15º52'
       Sulzfeld- 49º42' 10º07'
       Wurzburg  49º48'  9º56'

       HISTORIC BATTLES - The history written about these events can be a
       good source for other information about Cyriac (et al spellings)
       named individuals associated with them.

   [ Ben Ciriacks thoughts:  The proximity of both Cyriacus de Serna (1226)
   and Zyriacus (1265) in both time and place just has to be more than
   coincidence - the former could have been referencing the world (and
   12th+ century Battles/Crusades) famous Cyriacus at the Baths (of
   Diocletian) and the latter a descendent of the same family from whence
   that historically, politically, culturally and religiously significant
   saint came.  This family is a very likely the 'moving force' behind the
   naming of Dénesfa/Denesfa, Cirák/Cirak AND Csorna, Hungary. ]

 Jacobus de Voragine 1230~1298 researches available, often contradictory
 documents to put together copious notes for what is eventually published
 (after the printing press is invented two centuries later) as The Golden
 Legend: Readings on the Saints.  His writings became 'role modeling'
 narratives read aloud from pulpits and provided the basis for more
 scholarly research into the histories of the individuals about whom those
 stories were written.

    14th century

 1300 Pope Boniface VIII decares a jubilee year - motivating the
 development of pilgrim (tourist) sites in Rome, including possibly those
 associated with the Chapel of Cyriacus at the Baths located directly
 across the street from the Baths of Diocletian (ruins) and the 'exorcism
 legend' plaque thereat seen by Friar Capgraye 150 years later.
 John of Tynemouth (1290~c1349) researches the available and often
 contradictory documents, including Voragine's, to gather together what is
 eventually published a century and a half later as Nova Legenda Anglie -
 it contains lives of saints specifically relevant to what is later
 referred to as Great Britain.

    15th century

 Johannes_Gutenberg (Wikipedia site) "(c. 1398 - February 3, 1468) was a
 German goldsmith and printer who is credited with being the first to use
 movable type printing, in around 1439, and the global inventor of the
 mechanical printing press."

   In other words, it wasn't until the middle of the 15th century that
   scholars had an efficient and affordable method of communicating
   information to the 'greater masses' of interested readers, including the
   works of Jacobus de Voragine and John of Tynemouth of the prior two
   centuries - and Friar Capgrave of the same mid-15th century era.

       1424 November - Ciriaco de' Pizzicolli (aka Cyriacus of Ancona)
       Family Historians leaves Ancona for his first trip to Rome and
       subsequently writes (and no doubt talks extensively) about the
       devastation, mindless destruction and benign AND MALIGN neglect he,
       himself witnessed thereat.  Thereafter and thereby motivating the
       actions of countless other leading decision makers and resource
       controllers of that era and up to the present day.  To preserve the
       antiquity of Rome (and elsewhere around the Mediterranean) that had
       not already been forever lost became his mission.  That mission
       probably motivated his own scholarly research, archaeological and
       (presumed) genealogical efforts throughout the Mediterranean Area
       for the rest of his life.

 1450c - Ye Solace of Pilgrimes - A Description of Rome, circa A.D. 1450,
 by John Capgrave, an Austin Friar of King's Lynn is initially published
 anonymously and not attributed to Friar Capgrave until the beginning of
 the 20th century.  In any case, it is probably the first serious scholarly
 work attempting to detail the lives of the saints according to what was
 more 'inscribed in stone' (plaques, inscriptions and engravings found in
 Rome during its Jubilee year, 1450) than what was passed along from mouth
 to mouth over the previous 11+ centuries.

   William Granger Ryan's May 1992 Introduction to his english translation
   of The Golden Legend ... (2nd paragraph of page xiv) mentions that
   William Caxton, in his 1483 published 'other' english translation of the
   Legend, "mentions as his sources an earlier English translation, now
   unknown, a French version, and a Latin edition.  ....  That earlier
   English translation is most probably the Ye Solace of Pilgrimes ...
   source documents gathered together by fellow Englishman and scholar John
   Capgrave.

 1470 - The Golden Legend: Readings on the Saints by Jacobus de Voragine is
 first published and becomes a 'best seller' (after the bible, of course)
 of the middle ages.

 1475c - Nova Legenda Anglie by John of Tynemouth is first published (via
 the newly invented printing process).

 1483 - The Golden Legend or Lives of the Saints as Englished by William
 Caxton (see the notes at 1450c, above.)

    16th century

 The patriarch(s) of the Bremen descended
 Ciriacks/Cyriacks/Sierachs/Ziriacks/et al families settle in the areas
 surrounding Bremen to the north, east and south.  The 100 years war and others in Europe
 destroyed most church and other 'official', genealogically useful records.
 
 Finding legitimate bloodline connections earlier than the 15th century
 will most likely depend upon records in private hands.

 1537 - The earliest ?known? Cyriacks ancestor in the Bremen area of
 Germany is born in Baden - the church is then located in Verden.  This
 discovery comes in February 2015 from a facebook posting by Mathias
 Steinke (who states that he shares many of our ancestors in the Bremen
 area) pointing us to this Die-Maus web site.
 
 1560+-:  Martyrologium Romanum ... ?updated/published? by Pope Gregory
 (1502~1585)

 Cyriacus Kale becomes prominent and associated by name(s) with interesting
 tidbits regarding our family history.

 Acta Sanctorum (47 volumes)

    17th century

 1677 - ... Saints Cyriak & Perpetua church in Lehen (Freiburg-im-Breisgau)
 is set in place at the site of the original church destroyed in 1677
 during the Dutch War of 1672~1678.

    18th century

 Lives of the Saints (Alban Butler 1710~1773)

 Nov. 1, 1768 - The earliest found Cyr.. in the USA is Samuel Cyriaci.

 Brothers (Johann) Hinrich (1745~1807) and Christoffer (1755~1838) CIRIACKES migrate
 from one of the many Bremen, Germany area  populated suburbs, Daverden, to
 London and initiate that short lived spelling of our surname.

    19th century

 1866+ Eldest brother Johann (1841~1931) stays in Baden to inherit the
 family farm his father had recently acquired through marriage.  Younger
 brother Hinrich (1846~1914) is the first to migrate to the USA after its
 Civil War is over and settles in Wisconsin around 1970.  Brune (1848~1910)
 is next to come over and settles in Nebraska.  Friedrich (Fred 1855~1944)
 is next and tries farming in various states before settling in Minnesota.
 The last to arrive is Hermann (1861~1878+) who disappears after short
 visits with his older brothers.

    20th century

 1903 - Pilgrim _ Walks in Rome by P. J. Chandlery is published containing
 several detailed Cyriaca/us references.
 
 1910~1940 - Hollywood Fred Cyriacks arrives in the USA and initiates one
 of the most interesting lives reflected at this family history project web
 site.  [ See the Chronology section at his separate web site for the dates
 from the late 18th century to the present which relate to his life and
 activities. ]

 1938 July 24 - West Bend, Wisconsin Matriarch Emilie (Wendt) Ciriacks'
 birthday is the occasion for a family reunion at the Kleman farm; 16
 members of the Hinrich Ciriacks (1846~1914) descended family are reflected
 in a picture taken at the time (mouseover the date see it to the right):

 Theodore & Elizabeth Schmidt
 Theodore & Adela Kleman
 John & Mary (Homrig) Ciriacks
 Herman & Adela (Krueger) Ciriacks
 William & Alma (Koepke Klein) Ciriacks
 Henry & Augusta (Semrow Stark) Ciriacks
 Alfred & Bertha (Maas) Ciriacks
 Edwin & daughter Elaine - [wife Diana (Oelke) was home with baby Ken]
 Bernhard & Olive (Werner) Ciriacks were not in this picture.

 1941 December 7 - Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, USA Glenn Gerald Cyriack, 20 year
 old member of our Nebraska Branch Family dies in the attack that
 precipated the US entry into World War Two (II).
 
 December 9, 1967 - Bremen-Lesum area  Cyriac family genealogist Helmut
 Cyriacks communicates with nearby Osterholz-Scharmbeck area  Zulich family
 genealogist and (probable distant cousin) Dr. Karl Zulch regarding some
 variations in the spelling of the family surname.

 August 30  (largerCollage) and September 6, 1969 (no photos) - The
 initial meetings in Jackson/West Bend, Wisconsin take place and lead to
 the establishment of the Cyriac Family History Project.  The 300 page
 Family History is published and contains personal narratives from the
 various branches throughout the USA and some of their relatives in
 Germany.  By the 1990s, after the internet becomes available to almost
 everyone, this web site is created.  The trunk (story) brought to the
 (unphotographed) September 6th meeting becomes the catalyst for all of the
 research reflected in these pages and in the privately published Family
 History.
 
 August 1970 Artesian Lake reunion at Jackson, WI is our first, 'major'
 and very well attended family reunion since the Family History Project
 began.  It was held at that same Artesian Lake public picnic grounds
 (honor system donations) controlled by Uncle Pete.

  1972 August 8 - Professor James Henry Cyriax of Great Britain responds to
 a family history inquiry with significant items of intelligence he had
 gathered over the decades - many of which were confirmed (and amplified)
 with pictures and web sites not created until four decades later in the
 21st century.

 1992 - Jacobus de Voragine -- The Golden Legend - Readings on the Saints
 -- Translated by William Granger Ryan, Volumes I & II, 1992, Princeton
 University Press, NJ, contains several Cyriacus named individuals.

 1999 May 30 - Ancona's St. Cyriacus Cathedral hosts the annual visit and
 address by Pope John Paul II to the clergy, religious and lay
 representatives of the Archdiocese of Ancona-Osimo.  See the 4th Century,
 above and for more about the significance of Ancona (Wikipedia site) to
 our family history project (local web page) .

    21st century

 Beginning at the end of the 20th century, this  single surname family
 history study web site is begun to document this all and pass it along to
 posterity.  The three main sub-sections of this voluminous (295 .htm pages
 as of 3/7/2012) single surname family history study web site are:


 Organizations and entities all over the world are posting information on
 the internet - much of which is highly relevant to and now referenced at
 this single surname family history study web site.  Gmail and its 'Alerts'
 function helps find them as they are discovered by the Google search
 engine.


 GUESTBOOK ENTRIES FROM PRIOR NOW DEFUNCT WEB SITE
             Date & time received
             Name
             Email address
             City, State, Country
             How'd you find us?
             April 17 ~ May 21, 2014
             Brad Bell
             email this guestbook participant
             ?Los Angeles, CA?
             accidentally

       1940 Fred Cyriacks'
         Whipple Street mansion #1 of 2
       1972 Fred Cyriacks' Whipple Street mansion
         #1 of 2 just prior to demolition
       1946+ Fred Cyriacks' Lankershim Blvd mansion
         #2 of 2 living room
       (Click any of the pictures to see their full size)

 COMMENTS:
 5/21/14:  ...  Yes you can include my name in your guest book.  I talked
 to Bela Lugosi Jr. briefly last month--he lived off and on at the house
 for a couple of years.  He has very little memory of the home.  ... I came
 home for Christmas from college in 1971.  I spent a few days at the
 Whipple St home.  By about June on 1972, when I came home from college for
 summer vacation, my mom had moved to a place called Horace Heidts.  The
 Whipple home was torn down about Feb or March of 1972.

 5/19/2014:  Sorry for the delay.  ... First photo 10841 Whipple about
 1940.
 Second ... the (private) house next door--the living room, obviously
 before they lived there.
 Third attachment is 10841 Whipple in its final days.  [ 1972? ]
 I had some other photos but when I click on them they're blank.
 Regards, Brad

 4/17/14 [ notes from our telephone conversation ]:
   semi-circular courtyard in 2nd mansion - Brad thinks Fred 'built' both;

   only 2nd has associated, small cottages - no cottages at first;  [ The
   "guest cottages" referenced in the 1972 era newspaper article interview
   of Brad's Mother may have been sold off to the Lankershim mansion
   neighbor before 1956 when Brad was a small child. ]

   couldn't see the 2nd mansion from Lankershim; a side entry off Whipple
   was used as the primary entryway but address was on Lankershim and that
   entryway was hardly ever used by the residents;

   Flying-A > Phillips 66 > tire store was always at the corner; the
   Lankershim mansion was behind it and between the service station and the
   'guest cottages/apartments' and the first 1919 custom built Whipple
   Street mansion; [ Until this conversation with Brad, I had thought that
   the tire store was built atop the Lankershim mansion footprint. ]

   Universal Star market in the area - Brad is still friends with former
   entrepreneur owners;

   back to back mansions - side yards includes two old 2 story apt bldgs
   maybe '300 ft' from one mansion to the other; [ This is what made it
   relatively easy to sell those 'guest cottages' and the land atop which
   they sat to the adjoining Lankershim Mansion property owner. ]

   no spiral staircase in 2nd house only in first;

   fancy swastikas (possibly old 'Indian/native-American symbols'
   pre-dating their usage by the Nazi Party of Germany) in 2nd mansion
   recreation room - NOT in first where Brad lived;

   he will email his pics (some originals of what we have online) within
   next couple weeks or so.

 4/17/14:  Hi Ben,
 My name is Brad Bell.  I lived in this house from 1953 until it was
 demolished in early 1972.  Interesting story on how I came to contact you.

 Call me if you like at (818)-(private)  That's my work number.
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 COMMENTS:  Yours is the most information I have found on the mystery (to
 me) of the two St. Felicitys.  I am very interested in this as it is my
 granddaughter's name.  I had always thought that St. Felicity was the one
 who was from Rome who had 7 sons martyred before she was.  However,
 recently, I have found the names "Felicity" and "Perpetua" mentioned
 together - they are (I think) two women of Carthidge (Africa) (nowhere
 near Rome) who were martyred together with 12 (?) people.  She apparently
 had a baby girl in prison & was able to have her adopted before she died.
 I can't figure out if this is a different telling of the same story or two
 different women.  Can you tell me?
 Thank you!

 [ 2-24-2014 Ben Ciriacks response:  You probably know as much as I about
 these ancient saints.  There should be little doubt that there were more
 than one with the same name at different times in different places
 throughout the Roman Empire of the pre-4th century.  A reference to SS.
 Perpetua and Felicity (180 ~ March 7th, 203) is used as an example at our
 definitions page under MARTYR.  The Depositio Martyrum page reflects what
 was found regarding them because it was inscribed in stone  and therefore
 not destroyed with everything else Christian during the Final Great
 Persecution (303~310±) begun by Emperor Diocletian as his parting gift to
 his 4 successor Emperors.  Most of it was apparently found inside the
 catacombs of Rome which had undoubtedly been filled in with dirt and
 unavailable for easy destruction during that persecution.
 Because I've taken a few years off of intensive webmastering of this site,
 here's what has yet to be included elsewhere.
 Marucchi,       Manual of Christian archeology, Fourth Italian Edition, Revised by Giulio Belvederi, D.D., Ph.D.,Orazio            Secretary of the Pontifical Institute of Christian Archeology, Translated and adapted by18..              Hubert Vecchierello, O.F.M., Ph.D., Dean of Science of St. Bonaventure College 'The' gold mine of data!  ~19..   Pub:  St. Anthony Guild Press, Franciscan Monastery, Paterson, New Jersey MCMXXXV (1935)                 local bibliography entry      Cyriaca/Cyriace/Cyriacae Cyriacus/Cyriaci     KYRIACO/Quiriace/QVIRIACE          MPL#: 225.93 M389   1933   Cyriaca Cemetery & images/inscriptions  persecutions/Christians/catacombs synopsis                Christian epigraphy: an elementary treatise, with a collection of ancient Christian                inscriptions mainly of Roman origin / translated by J. Armine Willis.          Pub:  Cambridge: University Press, 1912    Hayes 702[toggle-me] Depositio Martyrum & CYRIACUS <<
 Page 114 of the Marucchi book displays the Depositio Martyrum (aka the
 Feriale or Feriale Philocalianum or Day-Book or Feasts of the Martyrs).
 It lists CatholicEncyclopedia Christmas, St. Peter's Chair and some 50+
 martyrs along with their primary sites of veneration.  Our
 KYRIAKOUCyriacus appears as Cyriaci in the month of August, which is
 cloned herewith in its entirety:
   III      kal. aug. — Abdon et Sennen in Pontiani quod est ad Ursum
   pileatum.
   VIII   idus aug. — Xysti in Callisti et in Praetestati Agapiti et
   Felicissimi.
   VI     idus aug. — Secundi Carpophori Victorini et Severiani, Albano —
   Ostense
                 VII Ballistaria — Cyriaci  Largi  Crescentiani  Memmiae
   Iulianae  et  Smaragdi.
   IV     idus aug. — Laurenti in Tiburtina.
   Idus aug. — Ipoliti in Tiburtina et Pontiani in Callisti.
       [ COLOR CODING:  locales   ¤   martyrs   ¤   greek in Latin ]
 A web site regarding the Tombs of the Apostles St. Peter and St. Paul has
 a reference to De Rossi finding "at Berne a Codex of the 'Martirologium
 Hieronymianum' " expanding upon those very brief Depositio Martyrum
 entries.

 The Depositio Martyrum was prepared for inclusion within the Liber
 pontificalis (Book of the Popes) which was initially published inRome in
 354 and which is also referred to as:
   Philocalian Calendar - Furius Dionysius Philocalus, engraver of Damasian
   inscriptions (aka Chronography of 354, Calendar of 354 or Calendar of
   Filocalus/Philocalus);
   Bucherian Calendar - Father Bucher published it within his De doctrina
   temporum (Antwerp, 1634);
   Liberian Catalogue - ?smaller? with differences.
   Christian Calendar - by Northcote & Brownlow in their translation of
   Giovanni Rossi's Roma Sotterranea - they also indicate that the earliest
   version may have been published as early as 336 as the predecessor to
   the more elaborate version published "with highly ornamented
   illustrations, in A.D. 354, by Furius Dionysius Filocalus." (pages 18 &
   19).

 The 1912~30s era Marucchi book(s) seems to have the most relevant
 references to what you are looking for.  In addition to the treasure trove
 of information in it regarding our own family name (Kyriakou, Cyriacus,
 Cyriaca and other references), it has [ emphasis all mine - there may be
 more than this for Felicity and/or Perpetua - I no longer have a copy. ]:
   1st full paragraph on page 9:
     "... Of those which have been saved and are known as the Proconsular
     Acts, we may mention the Acts of the Martyrs of Lyons for France,
     those of St. Polycarp for Asia Minor, and those of Sts. Perpetua and
     Felicitas for Africa.  The Roman Church has none.  The Acts of her
     martyrs were destroyed during the great persecution of Diocletian,
     when the archives of the Roman Church were burnt.  The same thing
     occurred in Africa, as we know from St. Augustine.  ([3] Brevisulus
     collationis cum Donatistis, col. e, c. XI (P.L., Vol. XLIII, col.
     636)."
   3rd full paragraph on page 79:
     "In the cemetery of Praextextatus, ... the Spelunca magna, the Great
     Cave, renowned for being the place where, among others, was buried the
     eldest of the sons of St. Felicitas (second century)." [ These are
     probably Ben Ciriacks' comments added in the mid-2000s.
         (talks about common cemeteries but doesn't name any other than
     Callistus!  also about 'Church' making use of law concerning
     associations.  The Church was illegal, so it was the members of same
     who took advantage of the law.  pp. 89~92 talk about Church cemeteries
     in plural based upon laws later returning them in the plural.  Faulty
     logic because many laws talk in plural when only one 'instance' may be
     applicable.  Cyriaca could have been another one, though, even before
     her death in 259.) ]
   page 177:
     The Cemetery of the Jordani     This cemetery, situated under the
     Massimo and Savoy villas, is the deepest of subterranean Rome. ...
         In this locality were also interred three sons of St. Felicitas,
     Alexander, Vitalis and Martial.
         ... The accidental discovery of this region gave rise to the
     phrase "Subterranean Rome."  ... In our own day, the paintings and
     inscriptions of this cemetery have been amply reproduced by Prof. E.
     Iosi in the Rivista di Archeologia cristiana, eighth and and ninth
     years."

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               Sire   Cyr   GRAIL   GWRIC   Quiriacus

   UPDATE [1/2/2015]:  (posted to the facebook group page:
   Just finished reading Paul SIre's "King Arthurs's European Realm - ..."
   Sire is derived from Cyr derived from Cyriacus et al, 3,000+ spellings
   throughout the world, the most ancient form of which is the
   Greek/Macedonian Kyriakou - Kyriakou, Kyriacou, Ciriaco and Cyr may be
   the most popular form of the spellings for people still living on the
   face of the earth.
   The book proposes the reality (versus legend or fairy tale life) of King
   Arthur (under various other names) during the period immediately
   following the early 4th century FINAL GREAT PERSECUTION by Roman Emperor
   Diocletian (et al - various co-emperors of lessor status than he).
   Many of the proofs are based upon the overwhelming evidence of the
   physical establishment of various edifices dedicated to Saint Cyr (et al
   spellings) throughout the area which was proposed to have been King
   Arthur (et al's) kingdom in the area encompassing northern Italy,
   through France and into the Mountainous areas of Spain, across the
   channel into southern Britain and back across the channel into the
   border regions including portions of and below present day Netherlands,
   Germany, Hungary and even the areas surrounding or maybe just south of
   the Black Sea.
   The edifices are constructed mostly as churches and chapels dedicated to
   the saint that is most likely the one belonging to and/or generating the
   family name(s) for our 2,000 year old family. Paul Sire proposes that
   those families and others of similar status at the beginning of the 4th
   century (and probably before) compose "The Grail Family" which took
   possession of the Holy Grail when it was found in Jerusalem (or
   thereabouts) in the 4th century (or in the 12th+- century during the
   earliest crusades).
   I am looking into various DNA projects that cover the more British
   oriented aspects of these developments - primarily for a way we can
   either fit in or create our own project that would be devoted primarily
   to verifying whether or not a specific spelling is "related" to the
   others.
   - - -
   Axel Cyriacks and Tina Kyriakis like this.
   Tina Kyriakis Happy New Year! Thanks for synopsis!
   January 2 at 10:52am · Like

   UPDATE [3/16/2014]:  Hi again,
   Since we last exchanged emails my book has finally been published.  In
   it you will find most of the answers to most of the issues you have been
   raising on your website, I have managed to join the dotted lines between
   your lines of investigation and so the book could very well be about
   your ancestors of 800-2000 years ago.
   My book (print & e-book) is the final solution to the riddle of who was
   King Arthur.  Expect the unexpected as the legend will become
   established history with irrefutable evidence never before produced.
   This will become the definitive version of the story, yet it is very
   close to the original as well.  You can only buy it for the moment from
   the US publisher's website: [ see link above ]

   "King Arthur's European Realm" by Paul Sire [updated 3/17/2014] [ toggle
   me ]
   McFarland - a leading independent publisher of academic and nonfiction
   books
   Figures/Arthur, King of the Britons
   King Arthur's European Realm
   New Evidence from Monmouth's Primary Sources ]
   Print ISBN: 978-0-7864-7801-9
   Ebook ISBN: 978-1-4766-1301-7
   18 photos, 10 maps, appendices, notes, bibliography, index
   212pp. softcover (7 x 10) 2014 [updated 3/17/14]
   Price: $39.95 March 2014 Available for immediate shipment

   About the Book
   King Arthur was as true as life, as this book proves with documentary
   evidence.  It also incorporates a whole body of new material that shows
   that Monmouth was, basically, right.  The "Arthurian Legend" can be
   fully rationalized by uncontroversial Insular and Continental sources
   which trace his birth to ca. AD 449, his departure from his kingdom in
   466 and his battles across France.  This book's "Riothamus" does not,
   however, vanish from history but moves east and, in 476, conquers Rome,
   much as Monmouth confusingly said.  In 489 Arthur's name appears on an
   Italian legal document, but by 495 he had returned to Britain to fight
   his famous Battle of Badon, 14 miles east of Bath.  By tracking the
   history of the conquerors of Rome through the material culture they left
   in the towns they settled, this book finds a perfect match with the
   places mentioned in the "Arthurian Legend."  Use of the right historical
   records allow the enigma to be untangled clearly.

   About the Author
   Paul Sire is the President of The English-Speaking Union-Spain and is an
   e-business consultant. He lives in Madrid, Spain.
   COMMENTS:  3 places you fail to mention on your site are Tintagel
   (Wikipedia site) (St. Juliot), Caerleon (Wikipedia site) and Badon Hill
   Battle_of_Badon (Wikipedia site) all 3 are notorious Arthurian sites (
   King_Arthur (Wikipedia site) ) and I explain the relationship between
   the saint in the book that will shortly be launched (see link).  St.
   Germanus Germanus_of_Auxerre (Wikipedia site) took the cult to Britain
   but the people who dedicated the churches in the Middle Ages to the
   saints were all members of the "Grail Family".
   [ Webmaster note:  The only instance before this to GRAIL within this
   web site is in the Uncle Jesus web page in the discussion of the Holy
   Grail in the coat-of-arms of the Desposyni (relatives of Jesus) family
   coming from the HOLY FAMILY 2 ROYAL FAMILY web site.  TWENTY-SIX (26)
   new names
     Garriek, Geriac, Geriak, Gerieke, Gieriak, Giracc, Girace, Giraeg,
     Girag, Girak, Giriaco, Giriac, Girias, Giric, Giries, Giriez, Girig,
     Girik, Girios, Goriak, Graic, Grail, Griac, Guriac, Guriak and Gyiriok.
   were added to make the new total 3,075 after this email.  Another 85
   were discovered via the Ellis Island searching algorithm. ]
   And my last name, Sire, is another version of Cyr (Quiriacus).  I have
   tried to find DNA info of your family but have not found it.  do you
   have a link?
   Best wishes
   Paul

   1/22/2014:  Ben Ciriacks reply:
   Thanks for the information.  The closest I find to the "GRAIL" spelling
   is GWRIC which comes from Charlotte Yonge's OUTSTANDING surname work of
   the 19th century -
     [ Page 217 of the Yonge book indicates that "Gwyl Gwric ac Elidan" is
     a welsh interpretation of St. Cyr & Julitta, the saints revered in
     Great Britain. ]
   - that seems to indicate a post Crusades (post-Arthur) derivation but
   the family name could have been there around his time with the churches
   dedicated to the various saints due to lobbying by family members -
   something I suspect was happening throughout 'the Europe' of the time.
   Since we pretty much know we have common DNA to various worldwide
   branches going back to the 15th century merely from the genealogy
   involved, it is still too early to ?waste? money on testing until the
   tests come up with much more information going back to more than 2,000
   years ago.  I now suspect an early origin in Macedonia but it doesn't
   make much difference since even then the family was probably spread
   throughout the Mediterranean and, without written history AT THE TIME,
   there wouldn't be much to discover.
   We need to find some family member with access to their own or some
   other family members "ancient library" that may contain resources nobody
   has ever looked at in centuries for it all being written in olde
   english, greek, latin or whatever other languages were used by the very
   few scribes of the time - that'll have to happen long after I'm dead and
   even now, there isn't anyone I know of in our extended family who is
   interested in all this.

   On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:54 AM, International wrote:
   Hi
   If you think your last name is linked to the saint I provide a detailed
   analysis of all the places and churches with that name in France, Spain
   and Britain.
   In France, for example, the largest number are in the Lot region
   Lot_(department) (Wikipedia site) (as in Lancelot).  The first
   historical record of a church was in Nevers (Wikipedia site) .
   [toggle-me] King George Cyriacus connection
   FabPedigree.com has:

   Gallienus Quiriacus ; aka Galains; poss. Desposynic (heir)

       His pedigree indicates that he may have been the 37-Great
   Grandfather of:

     Georg (King) of SAXONY (1832 - 1904);
        aka Friedrich August Georg Ludwig Wilhelm Maximilian Karl Maria
   Nepomuk Baptist Xaver Cyriacus Romanus (pedigree)
   [ Saxony [Sachsen(S) Sachsen-Anhalt(SA) Niedersachsen(NS)] pretty much
   encompasses the triangular area between Bremen on the northwest, Berlin
   on the northeast and Erfurt [Thuringen(TH) just south of Sachsen-Anhalt]
   between them to the south.  All in the middle to northern half of
   ancient Germany where most of our germanic history and surname hits have
   been found.  The Cyriacus coming so soon after Romanus in that pedigree
   indicates it's ancient origin - the Romanus probably indicating that the
   origins were within the Roman Empire.  See also
   www.angelfire.com/ego/et_deo/christianity.wps.htm. ]

   A 2005 HolyFamily2RoyalFamily web site, under THE "PREFECTS OF PROVINCE
   PEDIGREE", has:

     Gallienus Quiriacus recognized senior royal Desposynic heir (225
   [AD/CE])

   Yet another Soc.Genealogy.Britain Google Groups posting includes most of
   that site without further comment.

      [ Provence is one of the most ancient regions of southern France.  It
   encompasses the Mediterranean coast that includes Marseille, Toulon,
   Canne and Nice.  The kingdom of Monaco (Monte Carlo) is between it and
   the Italian border. ]

   The oldest church with original paintings from the 10th century are in
   Catalonia (Wikipedia site) with some very interesting symbols.
   In Italy by far the largest concentration of these churches is in
   Lombardy (Wikipedia site) .
   In Germany I have been able to do little research as I do not speak
   German.  However the picture is clear.
   First Saint_Amator (Wikipedia site) brought the cult from Antioch, St.
   Germanus took it to Britain but then he was a Knight of the
   Theban_Legion (Wikipedia site) .
   But the current generation of churches (with St. Julitta) was spread by
   knights emerging from the region of Switzerland/Burgundy at the start of
   the Carolingian period.  [  Carolingian_Dynasty (Wikipedia site) = late
   8th & early 9th centuries; made most notable by the rule of Charlemagne
   (Wikipedia site) . ]
   If you think you have something to do with those who built the churches
   then you are most likely to be " La_Tene (Wikipedia site) " Celt and
   your ancestors will be in that book which extends all the way into the
   14th century as it talks about the people who spread the Arthurian
   "legend".
   Best Paul

   1/27/2014 6:04 PM:  Ben Ciriacks reply [edited/expanded]:  Thanks for
   the additional information.
   Am about 99% sure we are of the same family as the KYRIAKOS et al of the
   1st century but have yet to confirm that that surname applied to a
   family and then to Christians or vice versa - the Main Church used by
   the various religious of Mt. Athos in Greece TODAY is called 'KYRIAKON'.
    That term may have been one of the earliest forms (back in the 1st and
   2nd centuries) for what we refer to as 'CHRISTIANS' now.

   [toggle-me]  Origin of our Family Name

   Origin of our Family Name:
   March 13th, 2012:  The earliest transcribed form of our family name
   comes from a greek reference found within the early 3rd century
   unfinished Stomateis or 'Miscellanies' (book VI) written by Clement of
   Alexandria , "who died between 211 and 216".  Variations of the phrase
   are all over the internet, but the presumed original greek is at
   Christian_cross (Wikipedia site) with a translation as the Lord's sign.
   But, those greek letters kappa upsilon rho iota alpha kappa omega nu
   preceded by tau omega and followed by sigma eta mu epsilon omega omicron
   nu could also be interpreted as "the Lord's followers' sign" or "the
   sign 'of' the followers 'of' the Lord; ie, the Christian's sign".  The
   nu at the end of the last two words should make them both adjectives -
   an interpretation implying that the earliest Greek Christians could have
   used the term KYRIAKON to refer to themselves as Christians in an
   organizational sense.
   And, perhaps not so coincidentally, The Kyriakon (tau omega - kappa
   upsilon rho iota alpha kappa omega nu - tou kyriakouon) is the
   appellation currently used by the dozens of Christian organizations
   living on Holy Mount Athos in Greece to refer to their central meeting
   place - shown in the picture to the right.
   Whether the term meant the edifice in which members of The Church met,
   The Church membership or both the edifice AND its members in the
   ancient, pre-4th century Christian Era has yet to be determined.  In any
   case, our equally ancient family name appears to have been linked,
   coincidentally or not, to the origins of Christianity from at least the
   early 3rd century.  Visit these other web site links to read more about
   it all: Christian_cross (2) (3) (4) Clement of Alexandria
   AthosHomePage Mount_Athos (Wikipedia site) Karta_Athos
   Prodromos_(Mount_Athos) The Kyriakon picture kyriakon discussion
   CatholicEncyclopedia Archaeology of the Cross and Crucifix
   The CYR et al spellings didn't seem to have been in existence until the
   3rd century or later - it both replacing the greek 'K' with the
   ?latin/anglo/sachsen? 'C' and changing the sound from the hard greek CHI
   to the softer latin/anglo/saxon 'C' as in SEER.  I suspect now, thanks
   to you, that that change may have happened in ancient Germany with the
   Saxons (Sachens) - the area where we suspect the family fled from Rome
   in the very early 4th century when all Christians were being killed as
   Diocletian's parting gift to humanity and his 4 successor emperors.  Our
   family members who fled to Germany must have been wealthy movers and
   shakers and were undoubtedly involved in any activities that helped
   maintain that status.
   Our earliest ancestors in the Bremen area of the late 16th early 17th
   century were builders of the large barn-homes all in one units that
   allowed people to survive the cruel winters without having to step
   outside.  Their presumed cousins, from the Erfurt area of Germany, kept
   and ancient form of the spelling of the name, CYRIAX, when migrating to
   England in the 18th+- century and were already established as a family
   of college educated professionals - that branch gave us Henry James
   Cyriax, the father of orthopedic medicine (he another family history
   researcher at http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/james.htm.)
   The child Saint Cyr and mother Julietta may have been members of this
   noble family and appear to be revered more by the French and English
   whereas the much elder Cyriacus at the Baths (of Diocletian) in Rome is
   the one to whom 400 extant churches in Germany and numerous others
   elsewhere throughout the world are dedicated - he is probably a distant
   cousin and ancient member of the Greek-Patrician family of Rome who had
   a palace on the Coellian Hill until the Emperors of the mid 3rd century
   confiscated it when they finally decided to go after "wealthy citizens
   of Rome" [ in our case the Matriarch Cyriaca ] when their finances ran
   into the ground from all the wars and other turmoil of that Period of
   Military Anarchy.
   Since the child saint didn't live long enough to create much of a
   history, my research and effort concentrates on the elder - but with the
   supposition that they were all part of the same wealthy family
   surrounding the Mediterranean.  The same kind of family that would be
   involved with kings and other nobles attempting to control whatever
   territory was needed (to maintain that control) in later centuries.

   1/30/2014:  Ben Ciriacks reply:
   As hinted at in the last short email, i'm trying to place all relevant
   data at the http://Guestbook.Cyriac-FHP.com entry for our back and forth
   emails so that that can all be read later by others.
   What won't be placed there but is interest to you and my relatives is
   that my nephew's 23andme coding is (PRIVATE - white European) which is
   most commonly found on the fringes of the North Sea according to them.
   That's supposedly the patrilineal coding.  I'm not interested in the
   matrilineal coding because 'logically' almost everyone is related to
   everyone when including female ancestors.  It surprises me that no
   mention of greek or iberian or whatever in the eastern Mediterrranean is
   mentioned - will have to see much more date of DNA of people we know are
   related to each other in our family to see what gives - maybe we have
   more Norse heritage than Greek.
   In any case, I look forward to your book coming out and seeing exactly
   what possibilities there are to our family connections to King Arthur et
   al and the 'known' movers and shakers of that era.
   The Kyriakos Jewish connection
   (http://www.Cyriac-FHP.com/unclejesus.htm)) has the possibility of those
   folks being set-up as rulers/managers throughout the remote territories
   of the Roman Empire in the 1st century for whatever imperial reason and
   that their offspring could have become involved with the real or virtual
   shenanigans surrounding what became passed along as the King Arthurian
   legend.

   On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:26 AM, International wrote:
   I have a similar string except the ... at the end which is different.  I
   can't remember how many generations apart that would put us, quite a
   few.  Could still make you Suebi perhaps as Sweden is believed to take
   its name from there or perhaps Heruli.  As the latter are known to have
   migrated east from Scandinavia.
   I am off to England tomorrow and will visit St. Cyriacs church in
   Lacock, just a few miles from Bowden Hill.  Know it?  Will send a photo
   when I get back next week.

   1/30/2014:  Ben Ciriacks reply:
   That's the church in the Harry Potter movies - the whole series used
   Lacock, I think, as do many others when looking for sites without the
   modern intrusions in the background.
   My older brother visited it in the 1970s when we were first getting
   going with our family history project.  There was a lot of controversy
   within the Catholic Church regarding the younger Cyriacus (baby/youth
   martyr) and the older one supposedly beheaded at the Baths of Diocletian
   - the latter has more history and verifiable bona fides, such as the
   plaque and church found by Friar Capgraye in the 15th century in Rome
   when it was still in ruins and uncared for - that directly across the
   street from the Baths of Diocletian.
   There was so much contention regarding these two (apparently Germanic
   aligned versus everyone else) that neither one is among the 140 saints
   on the columns surrounding St. Peter's square - even though the elder is
   a TITULAR Saint to this day.  (A recent Cardinal of Baltimore, Maryland,
   USA was the Cyriacus Titular designee - Cyriacus and another I forget
   are the only two who have no extant church associated with them.)
   I don't pay a lot of attention to those 23andme results - they only use
   23 genes (I think) - I am waiting for the test that will analyze more
   than a hundred or so that will tie us in to a specific locale ...  Those
   kinds of results will be of use to our worldwide family genealogy.

    International Jan 30 [ 2014]:
   In Rome the Cyriacus name is strongly linked to the story of St.
   Lawrence, the keeper of the Grail.  Read up his haliography and you will
   see.
   I suspect you will find no S. european link to your family.  Almost all
   the nomads who came into Europe at the end of the Roman Empire came from
   the Greek speaking East, that's all.

   1/30/2014:  Ben Ciriacks reply:
   see http://www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cwx.htm - I suspect Lawrence was a family
   member through his maternal lineage - mainly due to the amount of
   financial trust placed in him by his mentor, (CYRIACA) Matriarch of the
   House Of Cyriac.
   what kind of 23andme coding do Greeks have?  Maybe our ancestry goes
   back to the North Sea through the Greeks!

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   COMMENTS:  Here's the recent timeline of the serendipitous discovery of
   this earliest (12 century) "written reference" to our family name:  [
   Numerous other requests similar to this one have been made over the past
   couple decades - only a few of them garnered responses. ]
     August 8th, 2012:  On this Feast Day of Cyriacus at the Baths (of
     Diocletian), someone working in the Special Collections and Rare Books
     section of the Ellis Library of the University of Missouri decides to
     make, upload and blog about a 12th century partial manuscript found
     within their collection and the  saint referenced within it.
     August 15th:  Google's Gmail sends Ben Ciriacks an alert about this
     Ciriaci reference found by their 24/7/365 search engines.  Ben,
     webmaster of this site, saves the file for perusal at home.  [ The
     public library computers used as part of Ben's poverty budget are
     limited to two hours per day in one hour sessions.  Meaning not a lot
     of time is spent reading or studying these finds on that time limited
     computer. ]
     August 16th:  Having realized the significance of this discovery, Ben
     prepares and uploads the following posting to their Scripta manent.
     blog the next morning:
     From: Ben Ciriacks, Research-Genealogost & Webmaster of the Cyriac
     Family
     History Project located online at http://www.Cyriac-FHP.com
     To: (private), Scripta manent blog(er/master?)
     Special Collections and Rare Books at MU Libraries
     University of Missouri
     Subj: Ciriaci Socio images, permission to use & reference online
     Discovered via GMail Alert yesterday, your blog posting referencing
     this "12th century" document provides the oldest image we have of any
     reference to our most notable and ancient 'probable' family member,
     Cyriacus at the Baths of Diocletian.  The earliest, circa 250 A.D.
     image
      of one of the 3,000+ variations of our family name is the
     oldest written 'Cir/Cyr' spelling found, so far.  It is an 'inscribed
     in stone' representation.  Yours is from a hand written document that
     represents the 'original' image of same.  We would love to be able to
     upload and display either or both of the images presented in your blog
     posting at our web site - the image with the 'Ciriaci' is the most
     important one that would be displayed. Also having images of the
     manuscript cover, title page and any other identifying information
     would be a great help. The most informative manuscripts we have found
     so far, are those prepared by Jacobus de Voragin (c1230 ~ 1298), John
     of Tynemouth (1290 ~ c1349) and John Capgrave (4/21/1393 ~ 8/12/1464)
     - all online thanks to Google.
     Friar Capgrave seems to have actually seen a plaque describing the
     Legend of Cyriacus that was attached to the last physical edifice
     dedicated to him in Rome. Although we don't even know if there is
     another such plaque still extant, Friar Capgrave's most studious
     observations and narration can be seen at his 'show/hide toggle
     button' section (http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/csx.htm#poPcap) of the St.
     Ciriaci web page.
     [ We have yet to see anything of the actual writings of Bede (c673 ~
     5/26/735) which may have been the most ancient source of any of the
     legends regarding the ancient saints. ]
     Please let me know what we need to do to accomplish our objective of
     disseminating information about our family that is represented in your
     fine Special Collections and Rare Books library.
     Ruben James Ciriacks (aka Ben)
     August 17th ~ 20th:  Ben and (private) exchange emails and a copy of
     the permission form allowing our "non-profit" usage of the image(s) in
     question.
     August 21st:  Ben creates the appropriate  image and references
     thereto and uploads the new 'ciriaci-socio.jpg' image to this web
     site.

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               Ben Ciriacks
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               Ciriacks

   COMMENTS:  Jean Ciriacks, born 1925, died on Thursday, July 14, 2011.
   My entry to her no longer online Memorial Guestbook is cloned herewith:
     Aug 6, 2011 Jean was a gracious and unquestioning host the many times
     I moved in and out of New Mexico and Albuquerque between schools, jobs
     and apartments over the 17 years I lived down there.  She lived a full
     life and always made sure she had plenty to do, doing it very well and
     worthy of notice as tesitified by others here.  I especially like the
     comment about her telling what was on her mind without hesitiation
     whether in agreement or disagreement - one cannot but highly respect a
     person with such a highly developed sense of confidence and
     communicative ability.
             I'm sure the other activists in New Mexico will miss her as
     will the rest of us.
     Posted by: Ben Ciriacks - Milwaukee, WI - step-son
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               Tuesday, 2/7/12 1:10 am
               Fabio Bachemin
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               Hollywood Fred

   COMMENTS:  Knowing Eddy Faust the 2 men were undoubtedly drunk, and Eddy
   could be a nasty drunk by all accounts.  Sounds like Fred Cyriac was a
   nasty drunk as well.
   My father was the step-son of Eddy Faust.  Eddy later passed away after
   passing out on a railroad track.  Not only was he known for the training
   of the German Shepherd "Peter the Great" but he also managed a 300 acre
   farm owned by MGM located on Pico and Overland.  I guess the farm was
   primarily for training of animals, because my father actually fed and
   cared for the 3,000 chickens, 600 rabbits, 12 horses, 6 dogs and 6 pigs.
    Eddy also trained my fathers 6 dogs for the Gregory Peck Movie "The
   Yearling".
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               margarita natsis
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               Athens, Greece
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               Kyriakakos et al

   COMMENTS: Hello Ben,
   Greetings from Athens!
           I came across your very interesting genealogy site and I must
   congratulate you on the great job you are doing!  Hope you do not mind
   if I ask you to consider a potential error about the name
   Kyriakakos/(greek??????????/??????????).  This name has nothing to do
   with Evil-Lord.  It is a family name from the region of Mani in the
   Peloponnese.  It means son of Kyriakos.  The -akos ending is typical of
   the area.
   Please let me know if I can help you further.
   Margarita
   --
   "Other countries may offer you discoveries in manners or lore or
   landscape; Greece offers you something harder-the discovery of yourself
   " Lawrence Durrell, "Prospero's cell"
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               Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:26
               Edna Hanson
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               Cyriaks

   COMMENTS:  Maternal grandfather is John Herman Christopher Cyriaks born
   1898 or 1892, think latter.  Married Sylvia Seigrist, 2 daughters. I am
   eldest grandchild of JHCC.
   Ben Ciriacks' reply:  Our common Cyriac ancestor is Brun Ciriacks (birth
   certificate spelling) born in 1737 - our great 4 grandfather - making us
   5th cousins.  My records show 1898 and Siegrist but documents over the
   years would probably contain both spellings - can you confirm yours is
   the one used by her during her lifetime?
   John Herman's dad Johann (your great-grandfather) was a twin born in
   1866 of a dad, Christopher, who was also a twin born in 1824.  Both are
   shown on this Bremen family tree image.
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               February 8, 2011 at 10:45pm
               Sergio Kyriakis
               (facebook)

               Ciriacks - Kyriakis

   COMMENTS:  I was wondering if there is any valid relationship between
   our names.  Mine is a bit different, but it is sure close.  However, I
   am from Greece originally and Orthodox by upbringing, but still, after
   reviewing your info, I was wondering if you'd come across my particular
   spelling, not the Kyriakou though.  This stuff is quite interesting
   indeed, and I can see you've done a lot of work here.  Thanks for
   sharing!
     Ben Ciriacks reply:
        Hello cousin - we may have a common ancestor going back to the
     first century - the names are the same - yours one of the dozens of
     variations of the greek Kyriakou/Kyriaku and mine one of the hundreds
     of variations of the latinized english Cyriax/Cyriakus/Cyriacus (which
     is the latinized form of the greek Kyriakou) - there are over 2,200
     variations of the spelling found so far.  Your spelling can be seen at:
       http://www.jamrent.com/c/cyrialky.htm#kyriakis   or
       http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/cyrialky.htm#kyriakis
     Can I place your query in our http://guestbook.cyriac-fhp.com/ ?
     (Sergio subsequently emailed two kyriakis.m4a sound files with the
     greek and USA english pronunciation - searching for a way to convert
     them to uploadable kyriakis.wav files is in progress.)
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               Tuesday, January 11, 2011
               Elmer F. Ciriack Jr.
               Dallas, Texas
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   COMMENTS:  Elmer was a retired technical illustrator.  Go to the
   Legacy.com obituary link to read it and Ben Ciriacks' posting:
     Elmer and his master chef dad are fondly remembered from the
     mini-reunion type visit we had back in the Spring of 1972 when they
     lived atop the hill in Azle.  My older brother John and I were on a
     family greetings type tour of New Mexico and Texas.  I first found
     Ralph in the Phoenix area phone book the prior year and researched all
     of the New England based family the next year
     (http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/ckx73.htm) - that research letting Elmer
     and Ralph know that the Ciriack name did not disappear with Ralph
     Lamar's tragic Vietnam War related death in 1971.  There are plenty of
     Ciriack surnamed individuals to be found via Google et al.  For the
     most up to date information on what we have of the New England based
     branch, see:
       http://Ciriack.Cyriac-FHP.com
     Ben Ciriacks, Wisconsin Branch
     http://Ben.Ciriacks.com
     (We have yet to find a connection between the New England Ciriack and
     the rest of us Ciriacks, Cyriackes, Cyriacks, Cyriaks, et al from the
     Bremen area.)
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               September 30, 2010
               Ciriackes spelling
               Etelsen, Germany to London, England
               ?Yahoo Groups?
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               Ciriackes Cyriacks

   Ben Ciriacks comments:  Haven't received permission to place the
   exchange of emails here but go to the link to see what is developing, so
   far, regarding our newly discovered cousins. two brothers from Etelsen
   who migrated to London to get into the sugar refining business in the
   last half of the 18th century.  (Will get around to including images and
   more there when time is found.)
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               Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:45 PM
               Chiriaco Summit
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               Chiriaco [Shure-ache-oh] (spelling & places pages)

   COMMENTS:  Mr. Ciriacks:
   Thank you for your email [of Oct. 30. 2009] including the link to your
   family history project, and I'm sorry that it's taken me so long to
   respond.  Your message went into a spam folder and since I transferred
   my email files to another computer, I just found it.
   I'm forwarding your message to my mother, ..., in case she would like to
   correspond with you.
   Her father, Joseph L. Chiriaco, started our family business and founded
   the small community here at Chiriaco Summit in 1933.  He was born in
   Florence, AL ...  His parents were from Calabria, Italy.  We have lots
   of Chiriaco relatives, and there are different pronunciations even among
   this branch of the family.  Grandpa Joe always said it was
   "Sure-ache-oh" [Shure-ache-oh], so that's the way we pronounce it today.

   ... My grandfather ... & Grandma Ruth loved to sit in the Coffee Shop
   and visit with folks ...
   Best of luck to you, and thanks for sharing your research.
   Heather Garcia
   P.S.
   My grandpa thought that his way of pronunciation sounded more
   "American".  He would be so tickled about your research tracing the
   Greek connection.  He often told a funny story about his supposed
   grecian ancestry!
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               July 1, 2008 through July 27, 2009
               (private - no authorization to place here received)
               Cirak/Denesfa, Hungary

               Cyriacus de Serna page (in a new window)
               Cirák Cirak Ciraki Czirák Czirak Cziráky Cziraky Kyriakos
               Kyriakou Zyrak Zyriacus

   COMMENTS:  A series of facebook messages from July 1st to July 27th,
   2009 motivated online research that established that the Hungarian Cirák
   Cirak et al spellings (Czirák Czirak before the 'z' was removed from the
   alphabet) spring from the Greek Kyriakou spelling.  See the Cirak,
   Denesfa and Csorna discussion at our local Cyriacus de Serna page (in a
   pop-up window) for the latest information regarding all this.
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               kurt
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               Verden, Bremen, Germany
               Buckley Cyriacks

   COMMENTS:  wo ist das grab meiner schwester ursula buckley,geb.cyriacks
   in baden,kreis verden aller.zuletzt ivins-utah
   [  Translation:  where is the grave of my sister ursula buckley,
   geb.cyriacks Baden, circling Verden aller.zuletzt Ivins-utah
     Ben Ciriacks reply:  I do not know. I have never been to Verden. (Ich
     weiß nicht.  Ich habe nie in Verden.) ]
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               Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 8:00 AM
               Jürgen (Juergen) Cyriacks
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               Achim, Germany
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               Cyriacks

   COMMENTS:  ich bin beim stöbern meines familien namens auf diese addy
   gekommen.  wer sie liest weis ich nicht?  Vieleicht bekomme ich ja eine
   antwort?
   Jürgen Cyriacks
   Bruchweg 1
   D 28832 Achim
   juergen-c@t-online.de
   Ben Ciriacks translation:  Found this website while browsing on my
   family name.  Why doesn't it show my name?  Please respond.
   Translation aided by the following:
   http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt  I am with browse my to
   families named on these addy come.  who it does not read white I?
   Perhaps do I get an answer?
   http://ets.freetranslation.com/  I am browse come in that my family by
   the name of on this addy.  Who does it not read show I?  Do much oak I
   get yes an answer?
   http://translation2.paralink.com/lowres.asp  I am with rummage of mine
   familien called on this addy come.  who reads they do not point I?  I
   get Vieleicht antwort?
   See a 25 Oct 2003 guestbook entry at Juergen Cyriacks.
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               Aug 4, 2008 6:18 PM
               Dan Condon [webmaster]
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               Bugga C's Home Page
               Cyriacks

   COMMENTS:  Hi.  You're welcome to use my pictures and link to my web
   site.  I also have another link to it that I use.  It has the same
   information but sometimes is updated sooner.  Anyway good luck finding
   the book Peter.  I was lucky to find a copy a few years back which is
   signed by the author.  I have been offered 100 dollars for it but I
   wouldn't sell it for twice that.  I am always looking for another copy
   but I know of only 2 other people that have found them.  I had even
   contacted a great nephew of Clara out in California who said he could
   remember his Great Aunt with a box of the books but after she passed
   away people broke into her house and he never saw the books again.  He
   doesn't even have a copy.  He also had a brother or sister that had her
   manuscripts but Peter wasn't there or at least the lady I talked to
   didn't want me to have it.  But other than that a copy will be very hard
   to find.  Good luck with that.
   Good Luck, Dan
   - - -
   Here's the Ben Ciriacks's original email request sent 12:21 pm 8/4/08:
   Just found your "Peter the Great" et al movie dogs web site Saturday and
   the link back to the legal summaries referenced to my page regarding the
   Fred & Hermann Cyriacks brothers.
   (The Hollywood.Fred.Cyriac-FHP.com link may not always work - it tested
   okay just now and is safe to continue using.)
         I'd love to be able to use a smaller, tweaked version of the two
         photos showing "Peter the Great" within the legal and other text
         at my site.  Attached is the tweaked version (via Irfanview at
         60%) of the two photos at your web site that I'd like to use
         (filename ptg1924&5.jpg) - the picture will be linked back to your
         site wherever it appears on my site.
         (Click the picture to go to the web site containing the much
         larger 'Movie Poster' originals.)

   I'm also searching out the "Peter" book by Clara Foglesong (1946)
   referenced at your site to discover any more information about Peter and
   Fred's fatal confrontation.  Her name didn't come up on Google.
     The sole result returned via our (genealogical) search platform was at
     the (loc)Library of Congress (LC Control No.:95119188) - that result
     just reflecting her book as #23 among a list of 28 "Miscellaneous
     children's booklets" published between 1836 to 1947.
   Fred's family has yet to be found in the Bremen area ... - Fred was said
   to have been a very strident member (of the Nazi Party) with all the
   paraphernalia and possibly holding meetings at his mansion but none of
   that has been proven or substantiated by photes or written evidence so
   it doesn't appear at our Cyriac Family History Project site, yet.
   Thanks for your web site and sharing your valuable trove of information
   with the rest of us.
   Ben Ciriacks
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               Diana Wright [Author]
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                 Diana G. Wright & related Cyriacus of Ancona links
                 2012-AnnualMeetingRenaissSocOfAmerica-CallForPapers
                 2011-Cyriaco's Kore 2011-My Very Good Friends 2011-2
                 images of Ciriaco 2009-along-with-bishop-and-huntsmen
                 2008-on-galley-by-lamplight 2004-Bryn Mawr Classical
                 Review 2004-Cyriac of Ancona: Later Travels... Diana
                 Wright Cyriaco page Diana Wright Cyriaco in the
                 Argolid-Nauplion, Merbaka Diana Wright Nauplion page
                 Ciriaco_de_Pizzicolli Wikipedia page Cyriac-FHP Ciriaco
                 page Cyriac-FHP guestbook entries Cyriac-FHP St. Cyriacus
                 page Judas_Cyriacus Wikipedia page
               Ciriaco, Cyriac, Cyriaco, Cyriacus, Cyriaque, Kuriakos,
               Kyriacus

   COMMENTS:  1/8/2011:  I'll put the colored picture on Wiki.
   His name was Cyriaco Pizzicoli, so Cyriaco was named for the patron
   saint of Ancona, and the family name was Pizzicoli.
   You know that in Greek, the name refers to Sunday, or "the Lord's Day."
   [Lord or sir is Kyrios.]  The same way that in Italian, Sunday is
   Domenico.
   DW
   * * * Ben Ciriacks response on 1/12/2011:
   Thanks for doing the colored picture - I'll update the just uploaded
   'little' version' of it when the wikmedia page is downloadable.
   Am glad you have such an interest in Cyriaco and look forward to more
   interesting and valuable intelligence you discover about him - there is
   no doubt that historians have underappreciated his significance to all
   of us.
   From what I've seen, having two or more names, especially among
   prominent families, signifies the recognition of other family names in
   one's genealogy - much like kings with dozens of such names and roman
   emperors who may have begun the process.
   It may be just a coincidence that his name and the saint's name were the
   same.  I'd love to see evidence that he was really named after the
   patron saint.  (The patron saint was supposed to be a jew who converted
   and obtained the Cyriacus name as an honorific coincident with his
   becoming Bishop of Ancona back before there were Cardinals.  The real
   and primary Cyriacus/Kyriakou was the saint of Rome who was martyred
   around 304 and who may have been a friend of Diocletian - very little
   proof about anything about him exists but there are 400+ churches in
   Germany dedicated to him.)
   The Kyriakou name appears before the modern "Sunday" came into popular
   usage and is more likely associated with the master, lord or other
   connotation - it may have been in existance in Antioch around 44 AD but
   more likely was already a popular family name before that.  There are
   just too many Kyriakou's in the world for it to have begun only in the
   first century.
   Have a good time in San Antonio - I was there for the first time in
   mid-October for a http://CoAlumni.jamrent.org college reunion - most
   tourist friendly town I've ever seen.  Seniors ride the busses free on
   weekends and at reduced fares otherwise - still have my 5 year picture
   ID the downtown (2 blocks from the Druary Plaza Hotel) Via Transit
   office isssued to me for free in less than 5 minutes.
   Alamo and its volunteers is another great experience - they really treat
   everyone great. [ 3/31/12 update:  Ben Ciriacks now lives in San
   Antonio. ]

   1/8/2011:  to-tell-you-something-special
   * * * Ben Ciriacks response on 1/10/2011:
   Thank you very much for that update and the images - would love to see
   someone place them in the public domain on Wikimedia or elsewhere.
   [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cyriacus_of_Ancona]
   Spent most of December perusing references to Cyriacus and various
   Kyriaki, Kyriake, Kyriakes, Kyriakos, etc. people and saints in Mani [
   Peloponnese, Greece ] via John Chapman's 'walking tour' type website at:
   http://www.zorbas.de/maniguide/cyriac.htm
   I'd love to have the time to study all the works or references to him
   that show his various spellings of the family name - it may not have
   been his family name, but I'm positive he was as curious about its
   origins as I am.  (The Kyriakou family of Greece was probably as large
   and influential in his time as it is now but in the typcially subdued
   way that appears characteristic of one of the traits of our 2,000 year
   name/family history.)

         7/25/2008:  CYRIACO OF ANCONA 1391 -1452 (Diana's web site)
           Diana G. Wright & related Cyriacus of Ancona links
           2012-AnnualMeetingRenaissSocOfAmerica-CallForPapers
           2011-Cyriaco's Kore 2011-My Very Good Friends 2011-2 images of
           Ciriaco 2009-along-with-bishop-and-huntsmen
           2008-on-galley-by-lamplight 2004-Bryn Mawr Classical Review
           2004-Cyriac of Ancona: Later Travels... Diana Wright Cyriaco
           page Diana Wright Cyriaco in the Argolid-Nauplion, Merbaka Diana
           Wright Nauplion page Ciriaco_de_Pizzicolli Wikipedia page
           Cyriac-FHP Ciriaco page Cyriac-FHP guestbook entries Cyriac-FHP
           St. Cyriacus page Judas_Cyriacus Wikipedia page

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               Oct 29, 2007 ~ Jun 14, 2011
               George Eliason [Author]
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               Lebanon, Maine USA
               generationantichrist.wordpress.com/
               Ciriacas Desposyni Kyriakos

   - - - 6/14/11 Ben Ciriacks' response:
   Sure, but please indicate that this is all conjecture until DNA testing
   proves otherwise.  I don't think it's that big of a deal but do
   recognize that there are forces out there helping me in my research -
   but I figure those forces would help anyone who cares enough to attend
   to them.
   The more important consideration to me is the nature of a surname and
   how it changes and spreads over time - ours being one of the more
   significant in western culture.  The orientals have much more
   significant genealogies that put ours to shame.  I am reading your book
   - more religion than I've read in four decades - am about 25% into it.
   You are addressing an audience I don't have much contact with and I hope
   they read it and help you get that discussion going.
   - - - 6/14/11
   Ben
   Here is how I want to introduce your family, work and site. ...
         Kyriakos - Living Kin of the Lord and the Apostles
         By GH Eliason
         There is no better way to debunk myth or even fiction than to
         provide a truth.
         The myth of a "DaVinci Code" family of Jesus has been circulating
         since the time of the gnostics and can be put to rest, and Dan
         Browns' work of fiction labeled as just that fiction.
         Historically Mary Magdelane did marry marry "a Jesus", Jesus
         Justus of Rome who was a cousin of our Saviour and His brothers.
         The Desposyni (kin of the Lord) are the families of our Lord's
         brothers, sisters, and cousins.  At the earliest times of the
         faith these families were set over the churches as governors
         (bishops), designated by the Apostles to keep legitimate rule and
         justice among the Christian peoples.
         Shown here is a little of that information showing the name
         changes by country and region and links to much more.
         The compiler of this information is by descent from the Roman
         Desposini families.  He has graciously allowed me to link to his
         work which speaks for itself, has been carefully documented over
         the space of 40 years and is ongoing.  It is also his desire that
         people are introduced to these histories and their source
         documents.
         When I was researching the Kyriakos family in history for my book
         it had been my intent to show it through the 8th century.  When I
         came across his work and vetted it, I deleted the references from
         my book.  Ben Ciriacs' work should be the authorative source.
         If our God could bring these who are historically the most hunted
         families through time until today He can and will see us through
         till His coming.
         The greatest buster of myth is a living proof.
         [ See the GENESIS chart (surname variations/evolution/worldwide
         distribution) that is kept updated at our Legend Page. ]
         Links:
             http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/
             http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/legend.htm
             http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/uncle-jesus.htm

   - - - 5/19/11
   Ben
   Here is the copy of the book.  ...
   George
   2 attachments
   - - - 5/6/11 via LinkedIn connection
   ...  With regard to the book it is now titled "The Generations of
   Antichrist; An Argument for the Sake of Heaven."
   It is available at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Borders, etc. [ Alibris -
   ISBN 978-1-4327-6550-7 - Outskirts Press, Inc., Denver, Colorado,
   Copyright © 2011, G H Eliason, v2.0 ]
   I think it will be the best religious history thats never read lol.
   When I came across your work and vetted it a little bit, I cut out
   sections about your family history from the book because of your
   writing.  Your history covered those areas in spades.  I really thought
   you were publishing.
   This is a link to my blog concerning that material;
   http://generationantichrist.wordpress.com/
   I would certainly like to link your site to it but check it out a little
   first and decide if its an appropriate request.
   ...
   always best regards
   George
   - - - 3/11 ~ 3/16/11 LinkedIn contact and connections
   - - -8/13/09 response to the creation of the Uncle Jesus web page
   - - - 7/17/2009:  (All of the information received so far, along with
   separate documentation derived from Wikipedia, Google and other sources
   justifies the creation of the separate Uncle-Jesus web page in order to
   organize all this ASTOUNDING information into one centralized location.)

   - - - 7/13/2009:  Ben Ciriacks response to prior year email:
   subject Re: Cyriac-FHP guestbook submission
   Please send me the information regarding Publisher, ISBN number (if
   issued), etc. for your book.  The first reference to it will be in the
   Uncle Jesus (original email had another file which has become obsolete
   since then) file regarding the possible appearance of the greek  kypiako
   (see the web page for the greek alphabet spelling) coincident with the
   use of CHI-RHO (local discussion page)  to represent Christ by the
   earliest Greek Christians.  That reference will be on the web page the
   day after tomorrow as as soon as I get home from the library with some
   more references and pictures to be included and referenced.
   We are still looking for the earliest appearance of KYPIAKO (or similar
   spellings) before the one we already know about in the middle to late
   3rd century in Rome.
   [toggle-me]  Origin of our Family Name

   Origin of our Family Name:
   March 13th, 2012:  The earliest transcribed form of our family name
   comes from a greek reference found within the early 3rd century
   unfinished Stomateis or 'Miscellanies' (book VI) written by Clement of
   Alexandria , "who died between 211 and 216".  Variations of the phrase
   are all over the internet, but the presumed original greek is at
   Christian_cross (Wikipedia site) with a translation as the Lord's sign.
   But, those greek letters kappa upsilon rho iota alpha kappa omega nu
   preceded by tau omega and followed by sigma eta mu epsilon omega omicron
   nu could also be interpreted as "the Lord's followers' sign" or "the
   sign 'of' the followers 'of' the Lord; ie, the Christian's sign".  The
   nu at the end of the last two words should make them both adjectives -
   an interpretation implying that the earliest Greek Christians could have
   used the term KYRIAKON to refer to themselves as Christians in an
   organizational sense.
   And, perhaps not so coincidentally, The Kyriakon (tau omega - kappa
   upsilon rho iota alpha kappa omega nu - tou kyriakouon) is the
   appellation currently used by the dozens of Christian organizations
   living on Holy Mount Athos in Greece to refer to their central meeting
   place - shown in the picture to the right.
   Whether the term meant the edifice in which members of The Church met,
   The Church membership or both the edifice AND its members in the
   ancient, pre-4th century Christian Era has yet to be determined.  In any
   case, our equally ancient family name appears to have been linked,
   coincidentally or not, to the origins of Christianity from at least the
   early 3rd century.  Visit these other web site links to read more about
   it all: Christian_cross (2) (3) (4) Clement of Alexandria
   AthosHomePage Mount_Athos (Wikipedia site) Karta_Athos
   Prodromos_(Mount_Athos) The Kyriakon picture kyriakon discussion
   CatholicEncyclopedia Archaeology of the Cross and Crucifix
   In order to lend credence to the KYRIAKOS as a 'family name' in your
   book, we are also looking for ANY OTHER Greeks with that family name
   anywhere in the world during or before the 1st century.  I do not see
   why it could not also have been an adjunct term used by the Greek
   followers of CHI-RHO - it could have been a secular way of identifying
   themselves and equated to the "supposed" Aramaic CHRISTIANOI referenced
   along with it in your book.  In other words, in aramaic (and latin or
   other languages) they were referenced as CHRISTIANOI but in greek were
   referenced as KYPIAKO, from whence the KYRIAKOS (in Latin and others)
   comes.
   - - - 8/20/08 second email:
   Mr. Ciriac,
   I wrote a few months ago because I was writing a book concerning in
   part, what is apparently your early family history. I wanted to include
   some of your research. I decided against such use of quoted work because
   of the nature of the book in order to respect your family's privacy. It
   would be ignorant of my to do anything else. At any rate I have enclosed
   the book in its current raw form and just wish to thank you for your
   research with regard to the early church. I wish you the best sir.
   Regards
   George
   - - - 10/30/07 follow-up:
   I forgot to mention chapter 11 of that PDF I sent contains the 1st
   mention of Kyriakos and who they were.  This will bring it through the
   3rd century and into Europe Asia etc
   - - - 10/29/07 first email:
   COMMENTS:  Mr. Ciriacks,
   There are complete genealogies of your family name.  It is not an
   alternate word used for Christian.  There was only one family that was
   given that name in the 1st and 2nd century.  I am writing a book on
   their story.  If you belong to that family you have a lot to be in awe
   about.  The appellation "Belonging to the Lord" went to the Desposyni or
   Royalty.  They were the families of James the Just, Jude, Simeon, Jose,
   Joseph.  These and their families only held that name so they could be
   found.  The genealogy I enclosed is referenced by the Davidic families
   searching their trees.  I found it helpful in my research.
   Respectfully
   George Eliason
   (attached .pdf file)

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               How'd you find us?
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               URL to your web site:
               Surname spelling(s)
               Sunday, September 30, 2007
               Cyriac Kandoth
               email this guestbook participant
               Google search (you're on top of the list!)
               Cochin/Kerala/India
               kandoth.blogspot.com
               Cyriac and Syriac

   COMMENTS:  Hi.  You have a very nice website.  It looks like you are
   also interested in finding the origins of the name.  I had always
   assumed that the name was just derived from the name of the language -
   "Syriac Aramaic".  A website on the script is here -
   http://www.ancientscripts.com/syriac.html
   But I've never seen other examples of people being named after
   languages.  What are your clues on the relation between the Cyriac name
   and the Syriac script?
   Thanks and regards,
   Cyriac
   http://kandoth.blogspot.com
   --
   Cyriac Kandoth
   Computer Science and Engineering
   University of Missouri - Rolla
   [ 10/1/07 Ben Ciriacks reply:  Cyriac and Syriac are coincidental
   pronunciations of completely different entities so far as I'm aware.  I
   suspect that the incidences of the first and/or last name Cyriac in
   India and the Far East are associated with Christians as opposed to
   Hindus, Buddhists, etc.  The Cyriac as a Christian name goes back to the
   saints of the Roman Church martyred in conjunction with the Final Great
   Persecution of Diocletian from around 303 to 310 - one to a young child
   dashed to death upon the steps in front of his mother after refusing to
   renounce Christianity and the more popular in Europe to an older man who
   may have been a close friend of Diocletian from a similarly wealthy
   family who was beheaded (with 10,000 other Christian slaves) when the
   killing phase of the last persecution began in earnest in 304.
   Those names are predated by the Greek name Kyriac or Kyriaco or
   Kyriacou/Kyriakou which may have predated Christianity or may have been
   how the term "Christian" was said in the ancient greek language - that
   mystery is one that a scholar in ancient greek and its history will have
   to determine or at least search out.
   Thanks for the inquiry - I'll be posting it and this reply to the
   website tomorrow or the next day.
   Ben Ciriacks ]
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               Marina Ciriaco (Cyriaco) Mosella
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               Apucarana/parana/Brazil
               Cyriaco, Ciriaco

   COMMENTS:  Hi my name is Marina Ciriaco Mosella, my city is
   Apucarana/Parana/Brazil.
   My spelling surname is: Cyriaco, Ciriaco
   I've just started my family history and am very surprised with your web
   site, it's really amazing!!!
   My grandfather's surname spelling was Cyriaco, but in Brazil about 1960
   people were not allowed to use the letter 'Y', because it isn't in our
   Portughese alphabet - that's why they changed my surname spelling to
   Ciriaco.  Congratulations
   [3/12/07] I've promised myself to write a book like yours about my
   family history.  Still I know very little:
     My grandfather was born in Brazil but in another state far away from
     me because I was born in south Brazil 'Parana' and he was born in
     'Bahia' almost north.  I still don't know about his background because
     when I was born he was dead.  I've never seen his face just a picture.
      I've asked for microfilms (that will allow me to) discover more.  All
     I know about his birth place is that Italian and Spanish immigrants
     came to work there about the 18th century.  If and when I discover
     something more I'll share with you.  OK?
   I see you later.
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               Guy Houghton
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               England
               Cyriax

   COMMENTS:  I found your website on Google.  I was looking generally as
   we had not had a Cyriax communication from John Ciriacks of Neenah
   Wisconsin for several years.  My greatgrandfather Julius Cyriax is
   listed on your family tree but the name of his wife appears to be given
   as Bokenstein, rather than the correct "Anna Eckenstein"
   [ 2/26/07 Ben Ciriacks reply:  Thanks for that correction - the
   photocopy of a photocopy I used to create the 'Cyriax' tree on my hard
   drive showed her surname ending but was too light (faint) in the
   beginning of the name - I guessed at Bok but it does look like Eck, too.
   ]
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               Tue 29 Aug 2006 06:39:09
               Christoper Cyiark
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               Cyiark

   COMMENTS:  I was just wondering about my last name cause i dont know
   anything about it and went to www.ask.com an type my last name in an
   came upon ur website.  So im asking u, can u please tell me or if u know
   anything about my last name to email me back?
   REPLY:  According to a local Cyiark (who was my realtor for a failed
   home sale a couple years ago), which is pronounced the same as my
   surname but without the ending 's' (seer-e-ack), the name comes from
   Cyriaque (which got changed to Cyriak and then to Cyiark in Louisiana or
   such).  Although there are many Cyriaque appearing in Africa, including
   many world ranking atheletes, we think that variation of the spelling
   originated in France but have no proof of that or even if it did
   originate (the spelling, that is) in Africa.
   The spelling is one of the variations of the Cyriacus or Kyriacou
   surname for which the web site was created.
   How do you pronounce your surname?  What information regarding your
   genealogy are you willing to share?
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               Celia McKenzie
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               researching Brodersen name
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               Brodersen Madsen

   COMMENTS:  Trying to find links to my Gandfather - Mathew Brodersen.
   His father was Fredrick Brodersen and his mother was Maren (nee Madsen).
    They left Denmark in 1800's to New Zealand then Argentina then settled
   in Alberta.  Anna, Mathew, Fredrick Edward, and Ozwald were the
   children.
   1/7/2011 update:  (nee Hansen) changed to (nee Madsen) and new email
   address reflected.
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               MR.MGBADA
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               surfing
               LOME TOGO
               MUGUIGA

   COMMENTS:  A GOOD SITE KEEP IT UP NO GUYMAN OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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               Robert Leibold
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               Browsing
               Fayetteville, Arkansas

   COMMENTS:  An excellent website; have enjoyed it immensely.  I'll be
   returning often.
   My grandfather emigrated to the US from Burladingen, at the beginning of
   the 20th century.  My wife and I floated the Rhein River in April, and
   made a pilgrimmage to a few of the towns to which my grandfather
   traveled during his stint in the German army.  We've traveled the world
   extensively, and nowhere have I found a more beautiful destination than
   southwestern Germany.  What an absolutely exquisite place,
   Baden-Wurttemberg.  I can't wait to go return.
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               Vivin Mathew Cyriac
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               surfin internet
               austin, texas, usa
               Cyriac

   COMMENTS:  yea.. my parents are from Kerala, India.  I have had a varied
   upbringing from being born in Abu Dhabi, UAE to living in Kerala, India
   for a few years, doing my entire schooling in New Delhi, India.
   Presently, I'm studying electrical engineering at the University of
   Texas at Austin.  I just happened to stumble across this rather
   interesting site and just wanted to say hi, yall !
   aight peace
   Vivin Cyriac
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                    Juergen (Jürgen) Cyriacks 
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                    Achim, Germany 
                    Cyriacks 

 COMMENTS:  Ich spreche leider nur sehr wenig englisch!  trotzdem viele
 liebe Grüße aus Achim (Germany, Achim bei Bremen) von einem Cyriacks
 See a 25 Dec 2008 guestbook entry at Jürgen Cyriacks.
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             Erica CHIARKAS
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             surfing "chiarkas" (reading stuff about my dad, Nick)
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             Chiarkas

 COMMENTS:  Saw a few names I recognized...  miss New York...  cool site.

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             Kortney Cyriax
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             I did a search for my last name
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             Cyriax

 COMMENTS:  Very nice to see you've kept such a detail page of the
 history of our surname.  How many Cyriax's are out there i wonder?

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             5:32 PM, Friday, Aug 1
                 ~ 12:42 PM, Saturday, Aug 2, 2003
             Ben Ciriacks & David Saunders [Author]
             Milwaukee, WI, USA & (private)
             Chiriacka@CasweckGalleries
             Kyriakakos Chiarkas Chiriacka

 The following emails exchanged between Ben Ciriacks and David Saunders
 are summarized below:
 = = = ku-rr-ee-ah-ko
       CASWECK GALLERIES
       Santa Fe, New Mexico
       505-988-2966
       CASWECKGALLERIES.COM

       Pages 90 & 91 of the April 2014 issue of Texas Monthly magazine
       has the following write-up:
         Artist Ernest Chiriacka's dream of having a gallery in New
         Mexico became a reality when Casweck Galleries opened in Santa
         Fe in 2010, founded by his daughter, Athene Westergaard and
         grandson, Chris Westergaard.  Located in the Downtown Arts &
         Museum District, the gallery features paintings, illustrations,
         and sculpture from the family's collection, ledger art by
         Terrance Guardipee, and jewelry by Robin Rotenier.
         Born in Manhattan, Ernest Chiriacka (1913-2010) started drawing
         at three.  He studied under Harvey Dunn at the Grand Central
         School of Design and at the National Academy of Design Art
         School, and was a lifelong member of the Art Students League of
         New York.  He began his career as a magazine artist, earned
         recognition for his Esquire calendar pin-ups in the 1950s, and
         made the leap from commercial to fine art in the 1960s.  His
         great love was the American West, where he traveled extensively
         and painted cowboys, Native Americans, and Westward-bound
         pioneers.
         This year Casweck Galleries will sponsor its first art
         competition for young emerging artists.  The winner will receive
         $1,000 and a show.  The gallery is also developing "The Space"
         at Casweck Galleries, an intimate performance venue blending
         visual and performing arts.  Check the website for more
         information.
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 Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:42 PM Ben Ciriacks wrote:
 Thank you very much.
 More about the "numerous" saints Cyriaca and Cyriacus and their
 "various" feast days can be seen at www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cfx.htm,
 www.Cyriac-FHP.com/csx.htm, www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cqx.htm,
 www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cjx.htm and www.Cyriac-FHP.com/ctx.htm - the primary
 saint being St. Cyriacus at the Baths at www.Cyriac-FHP.com.csx.htm his
 mother, sister or aunt being the www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cfx.htm who is more
 detailed at www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cwx.htm.  I prefer the August 8th feast
 day as the primary one - August seeming to be the hottest, muggiest
 month in Rome and the one where most 'persecutions' and other
 'entertainments' of the day took place to mollify the masses and keep
 them from rioting in the streets due to the miserable weather.  (The
 Latinized versions of the names are, of course, Dominic and Dominica.)
 Based solely upon the information provided in your email, I suspect the
 "ka" may have been added to the kos sometime after the 4th century -
 maybe to represent family members who didn't subscribe to the
 "Christian" beliefs of the rest - the rest being proud of the possibly
 Christian-connected identity their name had to the "Lord".  It could
 have even been added during the Reformation to designate those who
 converted over from the Orthodox/Roman Catholicism to any of the
 alternatives springing up after that.  This is all conjecture and needs
 the research of someone who's 'deeply' studied the "true meanings" of
 the language used in the 1st through 3rd centuries.  (I didn't know the
 "kakos" - "bad Lord" definition until your email - that's another very
 interesting mystery to be resolved along with the others at our
 mysteries (www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cyx.htm) page .)
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 Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:57 AM David Saunders wrote:
 Please feel free to use this information as you see fit.  I will forward
 your own interesting info Kyriakos to Chiriacka's family.
 Was the saint's name Kyriakos or Kyriakakos?  What day is his Saint's
 Day?  What is the Roman transliteration of that saint's name?  It can't
 be, "Saint Bad-Lord," because that is just too wacky a name for a saint.

 Best wishes, David Saunders
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 8/2/03 Saturday, 9:46 AM Ben Ciriacks wrote:
 Thanks for the prompt reply and very interesting information.  We
 already had the Kyriakakos variation (among the 1160) at the Kyriakakos
 section of the KY~ spellings page.  Your information helps the
 genealogical research process immensely and for that reason alone would
 warrant inclusion at the web site.  Am attaching a file that's now also
 included at our Inscriptions (www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cvx.htm) web page that
 was created as a result of discovering the Chiriacka name.
 The research on our 'Greek' name is, of course, greatly facilitated by
 the fact that Kyriakos was one of the first 54 saints identified by the
 newly legalized 'Roman' Catholic Church in the 4th century - more likely
 as a result of all the inscriptions "in stone" referencing him or others
 within the catacombs built in the 3rd century.  (My own lineage comes
 directly from the Bremen area of Germany and I suspect my Roman-Greek
 ancestors fled there from the massive persecutions in the rest of the
 Roman Empire at the beginning of the 4th century.  Others believe, as I
 used to, that we obtained the name from the churches dedicated to Saint
 Cyriacus/Kyriakus in Germany but my research made me think that there
 was a very large family name Kyriakou throughout the Roman Empire by the
 3rd century - possibly in the construction/development business -- my
 Bremen, Germany ancestors were 'builders'.)
 Can I include any or all of your emailed response at the web site?
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 Saturday, August 02, 2003 7:51 AM David Saunders wrote:
 Thank you for contacting me about your complex investigation of the
 Cyriax.  I am the biographer of the artist Ernest Chiriacka and it has
 been a complex investigation just to establish his various names.  I
 happen to be Greek myself, by way of my mother, Eleni Politoupolis, and
 it has been a wild ride even to discover my own Greek name origins.  The
 basic problem with all Greek names is that they are spelled and
 pronounced in a unique alphabet that has little direct equivalents to
 the alphabet of European languages, and this compells all Greeks to
 individually adopt convenient transliterations that are vaguely
 compatible with where ever they happen to migrate outside of Greece, and
 90% of all Greeks do migrate.
 Orginally Ernest Chiriacka was born as Anastassios Kyriakakos, but even
 that is a transliteration of the Greek alphabet spelling, but that is a
 phonetically accurate equivalent to the Greek name.  Anastassios was
 raised in New York and many people presumed he was a girl, so he
 spontaneously chose Ernest as a first name instead.  Kyriakakos, was too
 hard for New Yorkers to pronounce, so the family name was changed to
 Chiarkas.  By the 1920s that name was again revised to Chiriackas.  Even
 within his own family, the five Kyriakakos children, born between the
 years 1910 and 1920, have each evolved their own personal name
 revisions, and no two siblings have the same last name.  "Kyria" means
 "Lord" in Greek and "Kakos" means "bad", so the name means "Bad-Lord" or
 "Evil-Lord".  [ Nov 10, 2011 update:  See Margarita Natsis' guestbook
 entry for an interpretation meaning "son of" instead of "evil" or "bad".

 6/22/2011 Ben Ciriacks update:  In the case of our family name Kyriakos
 and its association with the beginnings of Christianity in the 1st three
 centuries, the "ka" in the ancient greek of that era could have been
 equivalent to our modern term, 'NOT!'  In other words, many (if not all)
 of those persons using Kyriakos were associated with Christianity, so
 those with the same name 'BEFORE' Christianity came about (persons we've
 yet to discover) who also wanted to disassociate themselves with the
 others (and the Christianity they espoused) may have changed their name
 to Kyriakakos to signify that they were "Christianity associated NOT!" ]

 That is the complex evolution of this name.  I am not sure whether the
 current and spontaneously subjective deformity as "Chiriackas" still has
 any genuinely traceable relevance to your own research of Cyriax, unless
 perhaps the Greek alphabet spelling of Cyriax and Kyriakakos are
 themselves related, which does seem possible when you consider the
 transliteration of a subjectively phonetic interpretation.  "Cyria" and
 "Kyria" are obviously the same Greek origins, and "X" and "Kakos" are
 also both related alphabetically by the Greek "X" and "K" are the same.
 Good Luck on this complex puzzler.  David Saunders
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 8/1/03 5:32 PM, Ben Ciriacks wrote:
 Just discovered your surname last night in the latest Smithsonian
 Magazine.  Hadn't thought much about that variation of the spelling of
 our 2,000 year old surname but it's obviously closer to the original
 Greek pronunciation than my own (seer-ee-ax).  Have spent most of the
 day updating the Cyriac-FHP.com site with new revisions at
 Inscriptions.Cyriac-FHP.com and the CA-prefix
 (www.Cyriac-FHP.com/cyrialca.htm) pages.  (Have another couple days of
 work to do searching on the 60 CHI... variations just added - many of
 them appear to be in use around the world and should have been included
 long ago.)
 I'd guess that your name derives from the much more common Italian based
 CIRIACO spelling but the CKA ending hints at other origins.  Do you have
 any information on your family history or genealogy - especially
 anything we can share at the web site?
 Ben Ciriacks, Webmaster and Author
 Web site: ben.ciriacks.com

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 COMMENTS:  nice page
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             William David Zier
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             zier zeir

 COMMENTS:  info re my ancestor: Abraham Zier
 ("Oceania" manifest):  Abraham Zier -Russian Hebrew
 Place of Residence:  Dobcio, Russia
 Date of Arrival:  January 5, 1911     Age:  37     Married
 Port of Departure:  Triest, Austria, Hungary
 Wife's name?  U.S. City settled?  Children?  Death Date?
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 COMMENTS:  nice page
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             Tue 22 Oct 2002 20:36:12
             Luke Alan Ciriacks
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             falls church/va/usa from west bend/wi/usa
             ciriacks.com
             ciriacks

 COMMENTS:  Hello from Virginia,
 Our family history is interesting indeed.  My thanks to those that have
 done so much to bring light where there was none.
 Growing up in West Bend, Wisconsin, I remember a time when there were
 Cyriacks / Ciriacks reunions.  Will our children ever experience these
 unique reunions?  I was fortunate to meet some Cyriacks in Germany,
 while I studied abroad, and hope that our great family continues to
 learn more about one another and meet.
 Sincerely, Luke Alan Ciriacks
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             Kessie
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             Cyriaks
             Searching for my family

 Comments: The Cyriac-FHP webmaster's comments are in red.
 Hello, My name is Kirsten and the name of my grandmother's mother was
 Martha Catharina Cyriaks, born April 4, 1886 - died May 22, 1955.
 My history began 1755 with Bruen Cyriaks.  He was married with Beka
 Bischofs.  And the name of the son was Christopher Cyriaks, born July
 4,1784 and died April 13, 1862.  The name of his wife was Helena (or
 Hillena) Winters Helmken.
   Our database shows a birthdate of July 2, 1783 but could be in error -
   based upon the memory of a child at the time a marriage or birth was
   recorded.  Most of our dates came from research done by me in the
   Scharmbeck, Germany area in 1972.  The Winters middle name and month
   and day of his death were not in our database before this email.
 (A child in between these two Christophers is another Christopher born
 January 27, 1824 along with his twin Johann.  Christopher (b1824)
 married Margareta Adelheid Helmken on April 25, 1857 - they had five
 children -- none of which were twins.  Their 5th child, Christoph Herman
 Hinrich was born July 25, 1864.  The sixth birth was a stillborn child
 on March 15, 1865 - one probably also causing the death of Margareta.
     Christopher next married one Adelheid Oetjen from Nordwede - they
 also had five children -- two sets of which were twins.
 The name of the grandson was Christopher Hinrich Cyriaks, born July 25,
 1864.  He and his wife Adelheid Margaretha had 10 children.  Two of
 them, John and Herman Henry lived in New York.
   As can be seen in the family tree segment at the web site, the
   Christopher born on 7/25/1864 died in 1930 and married Anna Budde -
   according to information provided to us by their descendents living in
   the United States.  Although he was one of 10 children, our
   information shows that he and Anna had only 4 children - the four
   (Katie, Herman, George and May) shown below.
 Our family lives in Bremen.  The family of the Cyriacs are living in
 Bremen and Torfmoor.  You have some informations on your site about some
 of the people from my family, but I am not sure that it is the same
 family.
 Sorry,- my english is very bad, but I hope that you have some
 information for me of the family.  (Your english is very good - much
 better than my german.)
 Do you know this people:
   Katie Cristine, born 1/28/98, married Edgar John
       (1 child and 7 grandchildren in our database)
   Herman Henry, born 2/16/00, married Norma Bussenschutt
       (3 child, 8 grandchild and 5 great grandchildren in our database)
   George Herman, born 4/29/92, married Katherine Murphy
       (no descendents in our database)
   May Adeline.  born 9/22/95, married Oscar Mees
       (5 child, 12 grandchild and 17 great grandchildren in our
   database)
 There are children of Herman Henry Cyriacs.  He married Christine Budde
 and later her sister Mary.  (These marriages are not in our database -
 we only show the one above to Norma Bussenschutt.)
 I hope you give me an answer.  With friendly regards.  Kirsten
 - - - - next email of same date inserted herewith - - - -
 Hello, thanks a lot for your informations.
 I have this informations of Christoph Cyriacs (January 27, 1824 -
 October 26, 1898).  He married Margaretha Adelheid Oetjen (born
 Helmken).  They married April 28, 1857.
 They have 10 children:  [read day.month.year - the convention used
 outside the USA]
   Adeline 08.01.1858 Torfmoor, Lilienthal - 08.05.1939 Scharmbeck
   Lueder, born 24.02.1859 - died 26.12.1938 Bremen
   Christoph Hinrich, born 25.12.1860 - died 03.04.1964
   Katharina, born 07.01.1863 - died 14.09.1919
   Herman Henry, born 25.06.1864 - died 11.01.1930 New York
   Stillborn 15.03.1865 - died 15.03.1865
   John, born 06.06.1866 - died 23.06.1927 New York
   Hinrich, born 06.06.1866 - died ?
   Rebecka Anna, born 06.07.1870 - died 05.10.1870
   Ernest, born 06.07.1870 - died 11.08.1936 Kleinmoor
 The name of Adelheid Margarete Cyriaks (Daughter from Luer Oetjen and
 Trien Margareth Helmke) is writen in the familybook of my grandmother.
 Her name was Freya Kämke.
 One son from Christoph and Adelheid Margarete was Lueder (Lüder) Cyriaks
 24.02.1859 - 26.12.1938).  He married Meta Catharina Spark 14.03.1861 -
 23.09.1923.  [Meta Catharina Spark] was the daughter of Claus Spark
 (July 28, 1825 - 1882) and Marie Elisabeth Streckswald ( April 5, 1833 -
 September 5, 1887) They had three children:
   Martha Catharina, Adele and Cornelia.
   Martha Catharina married Johann Hasch.  They had two children:
   Werner and my grandmother Freya Martha Adele.
 I found in the family book only one wife of Christoph Cyriaks.  I don't
 know whether my information is wrong.  But in the book is the birthplace
 from Adelheid Margarete Oetjen (Helmken), born 2.2.1830, Nordwede.
 Here a some informations about my great grandmother:
   Martha Catharina Cyriaks, born April 26, 1886, died May 22, 1955.  She
   married Johann Hasch June 26, 1911.  [database=March 22, 1955]  She
   killed herself with gas in her house in Bremen-Horn.
   Her sister Adele Elise Cyriaks went to New York in 1922.  The ship
   called "George Washington".  But Adele came back to germany.
 The daughter of Johann Cyriaks and Anna Blume, Mabel (born August
 27,1895) was also in germany.  I think, she meets the family here.  But
 I am not sure.  The journey was July 28,1926 from Bremen to Southampton
 and New York (Name of the ship: "Columbus").
   [database has 1923 and 1924 arrivals in New York, also, and indicates
   that she never married.  She may have been a merchant in New York.]
 I have also information about her sister [in law] and her brother:
 Sylvia Cyriaks and John Cyriaks.  But no birthdate...
   [database has Johann Hermann Christopher Cyriaks born June 15, 1898
   and died March 1972 or before.  He married Sylvia Siegrist, who was
   born Aug. 3, 1903 and died Nov. 10, 1996.  Some dates are reflected in
   the Social Security Death benefits records.  The database reflects
   their two daughters, one having one daughter and two sons.]
 Now I will looking for some more informations of Adelheid Margarete
 Oetjen.  Married Christoph two times or not?  It is very interessting
 for me.
 I hope you have a wonderfull weekend and I will give you more
 information of the family, if you want.
 Yours sincerely, Kirsten
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             Friday, February 15, 2002 6:00 PM
             Heather Whitcomb
             kyriakou

 COMMENTS:  my great grandfather from greece had the name aristedes
 kyriakou and i was looking for any info on my genealogy he changed his
 last name to kayes while living in san francisco he married areti
 (papanicolou)?  i think he used his cousins passport to come to the us
 do you have any info for me
 Webmaster response:  Sorry, I don't, but can I place your query under
 the Kyriakou name at
 http://www.cyriac-fhp.com/cyrialky.htm#kyriakou and
 http://www.jamrent.com/c/cyrialka.htm#kayes
 That might help get you some more information.  Including your email
 address there may also help but I'll do so only with your permission.
 The Kyriakou spelling is among the oldest in the family (going back at
 least 20 centuries) - meaning the only way we would be able to establish
 a blood line connection would be through DNA testing - something I
 imagine is still a decade or more away for genealogists.  In the
 meantime, I have no doubt we are all part of the same family that
 originated in Greece and may have some history there going back several
 centuries B.C.
 By copy of this reply I'm sending your original message to the only
 other people I know of with affinity to the Kyriacou spelling - you all
 might want to share information you have with each other - and with me
 for the web site if it's not too personal -- I consider anything after
 the year 1900 to be personal and will not put it on the web site but can
 put it with whatever else I have on my hard drive family tree.
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             Friday, August 24th 2001 - 11:29 PM
             cyriac joseph
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             Chavara, Cyriac, Elias, Kuriakose & Kuruvila

 COMMENTS:  Thanks for the reply.  I gladly give you permission to add my
 query and to do the rest to expand this unique site.
 I didn't notice that Kuriakose Elias is already in the site.  Actually
 my father comes from South Kerala, the home town of Chavara Kuriakose
 (cyriac) Elias.
 In fact I once visited his burial place and a seminary (CMI) where
 Cyriac Chavara once lived and served.
 Once again my hearty greetings.
 Cyriac Joseph.
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             Friday, August 24th 2001 - 08:05 PM
             Ben (Theriault) Ciriacks
             Milwaukee, WI
             ben.ciriacks.com
             Chavara, Cyriac, Elias, Kuruvila, Puthenpura

 COMMENTS:  Glad to hear from you.  I don't know what Kuruvila means and
 presume you can find out faster than I.  How is it pronounced?  Can't
 find it now but I think a Father Cyriac Puthenpura was from Kerala.  Our
 Notables web page shows:
 CYRIAC ELIAS CHAVARA, co-founder and first Prior General of the
 Carmelites of Mary Immaculate (CMI), was born in Kerala in India, on
 10th February 1805. ...
 That's the only reference we have to Kerala on the web site.  It would
 help the web site tremendously if you could repeat your email message
 and add whatever else you want to our Cyriac Family History Project
 guestbook at:
 http://Guestbook.Cyriac-FHP.com
 (Or, if that's a problem, just give me permission to do so, and I'll
 clone your email message to the guestbook for you.)

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             Friday, August 24th 2001 - 08:28 AM
             Cyriac Joseph Padavil
             Canada via South Kerala, India
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             Cyriac, Kuruvila
             Surfing the internet

 COMMENTS:  Hi Ciriacks,
 I am Cyriac Joseph from Kerala, South India.  I am a student in Canada
 for a while.  I am so glad to learn the historical and spiritual
 background of my first name for the first time!
 I come from a Roman Catholic family, and my parents gave me this name
 according to a custom of giving grandfather's name to the firstborn baby
 boy.
 My grandfather's name was KURUVILA, which I got as Cyriac.  Do you know
 what Kuruvila means?
 Thanks for your effort to create the site.
 God bless you,
 With regards,
 Cyriac Joseph Padavil.
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             July 18, 2001 at 07:40:01
             Ben (Theriault) Ciriacks
             Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
             ben.ciriacks.com
             Created it.
             Cirieco < Ciriaco < Cyriac
             This posting is cloned from message #1 at
             genforum.genealogy.com/cirieco/messages/1.html

 COMMENTS:  The www.cyriac-fhp.com Cyriac Family History Project has been
 working on our 2,000 year old family surname for the past 30 years.
 It's evident that the name was most popular in ancient times in the area
 of Rome and other parts of the far flung Roman Empire.  Early
 individuals were Greeks named Cyriaca (female) and Cyriacus (male) of
 the 3rd and 4th centuries in Rome.
 It's apparent that Ciriaco, a very popular modern Italian spelling
 (relatively speaking) is probably the origin of Cirieco, but we know of
 no Cirieco surnamed individuals out there.  Anyone care to step forward
 here.
 Go to ben.ciriacks.com for my personal page and see St. Cyriacus for the
 most prominent of the ancient Rome based saints who is probably a
 distant cousin or uncle of us all.  His mother, aunt, sister or cousin
 may have been St. Cyriaca
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             26 Apr 2001 Thu 9:58 AM
             Jared Cyriacks
             (obsolete)

 COMMENTS:  Hello,
 I know it has been a long time since I last e-mailed you, but I wanted
 to say hello.  I was especially excited by the opening of the new Ellis
 Island web-site.  I was just finally able to get onto their site today
 after several attempts.  Apparently they were getting an astounding
 amount of hits on their server and were unable to handle the load.
 I was able to do a search on the Cyriacks name.  The search returned 10
 names, along with the date of arrival, place of origin, age upon arrival
 and ship that they traveled on.
 If you are unable to get through to the site yourself, let me know and I
 can e-mail you the information I found so far.
 For a long time I have been interested in learning about the first
 members of our family to arrive her in America.  Hopefully this site,
 along with the information from your vast research can help to narrow it
 down even more.
 Have a good day.

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             Monday 11/01/1999 8:37:05pm
             Richard Mangels
             (no longer valid)
             Yahoo!
             New York
             Cyriack Cyriacks Mangels

 This email was lost for a decade inside another, long defunct online
 guestbook that was still in one of several backup hard drives - it was
 placed here where it belongs on August 15, 2008.  Our common ancestry
 for Richard's Grandmother, Adelaide Cyriacks-Mangles, can now be found
 online at:  www.ortsfamilienbuecher.de.  Click here to go to our local
 page.
 COMMENTS:  My Grandmother's name was Adelaide Cyriack, She was killed in
 1921 on the Staten Island Ferry.  The car that she and my Grandfather,
 Richard Mangels, were in was the 1st car that would have gotten off when
 they reached the other side.  My Grandparent's, my Dad and his younger
 sister were in the car when a wave hit the ferry from the back, the car
 slid forward and the car went off the ferry, drowning my Grandmother,
 who was 8 month's pregnant.  Everyone got out except my Grandmother,
 after the car reached the bottom of New York Bay.  She is buried in
 Brooklyn, in a church cemetary.  My Sister and I would like to find out
 more about our Grandmother Adelaide and other family members.
 Could you please point me in the right direction on your web site, my
 sister has viewed it and found what appears to be a mention of an
 Adelaide Cyriak.  (tree image & web site)
 Thank you and regards, Richard Mangels, III
 Webmaster (Ben Ciriacks) response:  Tuesday 11/02/1999 5:48:07pm
     Thanks, Richard, for that history of your grandmother.  Prior to
 that we didn't know anything about you guys.  As indicated in a private
 email to your wife, and just now updated to include her tragic story,
 your grandmother, Adelaide (Cyriacks) Mangels can be seen at our Cyriac
 Family History Project's Claus & Metta page.
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             Fri, 6 Aug 1999 22:23:16 -0700 (PDT)
             Stephan Cyriacus
             Leipzig, Germany
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             Leipzig Cyriacus Family
             Email from Ben Ciriacks.
             Cyriacus, Cyriacks, Cyriax, Ciriacks, Kiriakos, et al

  COMMENTS:  Thank you very much for your e-mail.  We are about 20
 Cyriacus living in Germany today.  There are 3 different families with
 no obvious relation.  My family is living in Leipzig since about 1600
 AD.  Previous information is lost due to the 30-year-war 1618-1648.  I
 saved your data and will come back to you with more info.  Attached is
 exerpt from my program: descendants of unknown forefather (not complete
 nor reliable).

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             Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:40:30 -0500
             Ruben J. Ciriacks

 COMMENTS:  In reply to your inquiry, the best place to find out more
 about me is on the web site itself.  Go to the following pages thereat:
   some personal data & pictures
   Cyriax page of website
 You should check back into the Cyriax page every few months.  It'll
 contain the most accurate date regarding what I consider to be the
 oldest form of spelling the family name.  The entire Cyriac Family
 History Project web site has hundreds of pages, images and charts, so
 check it out to see the history of our name.  There's absolutely no
 doubt that Ciriacks, Cyriacks, Cyriax, Ciriack, Zirjacks, Ciriaco and
 numerous others are the same name.  The question is are we related to
 each other?  I think we all are and have been proving it for the past 30
 years.
 My method is to merely collect everything mentioning the name, including
 genealogical data with full names and dates, and then worry about tying
 it together at some later date.  The Cyriax members of the family have
 the most unconnected branches.  I was just working on them this morning
 and realized I'll have to freshen the way I've listed them on my
 computer in order to notice relationships much easier.  Yours is an
 entirely new branch, which won't be put on the tree until I have your
 grandfather's name.  Having the names of his children, including your
 father and mother will help but isn't necessary to connect him to his
 ancestry.
 You are one of the few Cyriax with that form of the name left in the
 world, apparently.  It's about to die out completely in the USA.  My
 records show no 1883 birth but that isn't significant.  Send me the
 exact year, month, day and full names of both your grandfather and his
 wife, if you have them, and I'll keep track and make a note to let you
 know when we've tied them into another branch somewhere.
 We don't publish information regarding individuals in the family born
 after 1900 on the web site (there are thousands) but do keep records so
 that individuals can know their own genealogy.
 Over the past four decades, I've concentrated my research on the family
 history occurring before 1900, mostly the dead members and the
 appearance of the name, while my oldest brother Jack has been collecting
 histories and communicating with living members all over the world.  He
 just came back from Canada and is on his way to France to research the
 French (my mother's) Acadian side of our own family.  He's met many of
 the Cyriax in Germany, Britain and the USA but hasn't met any from South
 Africa so far as I can recall.
 [ In the process of updating my files this morning, a task having been
 put off for the past two decades, I came across an article in one of our
 annual family newsletters that stated that one of the British Cyriax
 said my brother Jack looked just like her other relative, so our
 relationship is being proved all the time.  Those Cyriax, including the
 world renown Dr. James Cyriax of orthopedic fame, are all descended from
 ancestors from the Erfurt area of Germany.  While the name itself is
 Greek, our most recent orgins are in Germany. ]
 Enough for now.  Visit the other pages of the site.  Check out what's
 there regarding the Cyriax and send me more information and questions.
 I look forward to the feedback - especially regarding questions needing
 answers that can be placed on the web site itself.
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             Name
             City, State, Country
             Email address
             URL to your web site
             How'd you find us?
             Surname spelling(s)
             Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:36:27
             Dieter Cyriax
             Namibia, Africa
             email this guestbook participant
             Namibia
             Email from Ben Ciriacks.
             Cyriax

 COMMENTS:  Hi Ruben,
 I am currently trying to trace my family name CYRIAX.  Seeing that it is
 such an unusual name, it is also much more difficult to find some thing.
  But let me tell you about myself.  My name is Dieter M. F. Cyriax born
 in 1953 in Swakopmund, Namibia (formally South West Africa).  I am of
 german origin and managed to go back only to my grand father who was
 born in 1883 in Weimar, Germany.  He then came to Namibia where he got
 married and started a family.  Since then our family lives in Namibia.
 Please tell me more about yourself.  It will be nice hearing from you.
 20 Sep 2001:  If anyone should visit Namibia, they are more than welcome
 to contact me.
 Click Namibia to go to that page for more.
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             Name
             Wed, 03 Jun 1998 13:44:58 -0500 CDT
             Ben Ciriacks (To:  Paul Ciriacks)

 COMMENTS:  Thanks.  ... found Verano in a book about the Christian
 Cemeter(ies) of Rome.  It's apparently a public cemetery just across
 from the former Ciriaca and now Saint Lawrence Cemetery off the Tiburian
 Way in (eastern) Rome.  The cartilio/cartilius is moot.  The inscription
 seems to only show 'CAR' an abbreviation for something as yet unfound in
 other inscriptions, so far.  [ 5/27/00 update:  Carissimo, dearest,
 appears to be a better translation for the CAR abbreviation than
 cartillo. ]
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             Date & time received
             Name
             City, State, Country
             Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:49:03 -0700 (PDT)
             Paul Ciriacks
             Long Beach, CA

 COMMENTS:  Hey Uncle Ben, ... "verano" in Spanish means "summer."  ...
 "cartilla" in Spanish means "notebook."  Paul
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             Name
             Sat, 23 May 1998 11:48:21
             Ben Ciriacks (To:  John Ciriacks)

 COMMENTS:  What with hundreds of hits, I've yet to see anything
 regarding the exact circumstances of Cyriacus death on August 8th, 304.
 The attached file may have it.  Is your German exchange student still
 around?  If so, can you ask him to please translate and return same to
 me for inclusion in the web site?
 We obviously need someone in the German branch of the family who can
 translate to do so on the dozens of web pages that are "GREEK" to me
 right now.
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             Date & time received
             Name
             Wed, 20 May 1998 12:57:50
             John Ciriacks (To:  Ben Ciriacks)

 COMMENTS:  Also the Roman soldier Cyriacus who was slain in 304 with his
 6 brothers sounds like a favorite song on our Christian radio station of
 "Forty Brave Soldiers for Christ."  They were put out on the ice in
 Turkey in the winter to freeze to death since they would not sacrifice
 to the Emperor.
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             Name
             Mon, 18 May 1998 12:09:56
             Ben Ciriacks (To: John Ciriacks)

 COMMENTS:  The challenge will be for individuals to find information
 that's not already contained at the web site regarding Cyriacus.  HINT:
 When searching, use the "riac" portion of the name as the only unique
 portion common to various languages, countries, etc.  If possible,
 eliminate Syriac from the search process to minimize the hits found.
 I found over a 1000 hits on Cyriac or some derivation thereof (can't
 remember, now) and only looked at around 300 of them, so there is some
 stuff out there, especially in the Middle ages forward to be found.  I'm
 concentrating on the Pre-400 A.D. era via the Argos search engine.
 Enjoy.  I would have never believed two weeks ago that this would turn
 out to be as interesting as it is.
 (Oh, yes, if anyone has time, it'd be nice to find some PUBLIC DOMAIN
 gif files, especially colored maps of the various regions and countries,
 that could be added to the web site.  I don't have the time to do the
 actual searching, or conversion from .doc to .gif file process, but will
 download the already ready file and place it at the web site if someone
 gives me the URL where it's located.)
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             Name
             City, State, Country
             Mon, 4 May 1998 12:23:59
             Westfall Stephen
             U. of Marburg, Germany

 COMMENTS:  The name Cyriacus/-kus was quite common in many villages
 throughout northern Hessen , the area my ancestors came from.  Local
 naming customs, children were usually named after relatives or unrelated
 villagers, were responsible that the name always was in use, as long as
 these naming customs prevailed.  In some villages or families up to the
 1930s or so.
 Although most villages in the area are and have been Protestant since
 the Reformation, names of saints sometimes were used.  Cyriacus happens
 to be one of these.
 How your family obtained that name is hard to say, since most surnames
 became established in times when no records were kept or of which none
 have survived.  The genitive ending "-s" seems to indicate that one of
 your ancestors was a son of Cyriacus and for some reason this became the
 name for the whole family and all descendants.
 By the way, there is a village not far from where I live called
 Cyriaxweimar.
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             Name
             City, State, Country
             URL to your web site
             5 May 1998
             Ben Ciriacks
             Milwaukee, WI
             Ben.Ciriacks.com

 So, as has probably happened dozens (2001=?thousands?) of times over the
 past two millennium, another 'branch' of our VAST family was begun -
 with a major impact.  As it turns out, my great grandfather, Hinrich
 Cyriacks, has more than 400 (2001=500) descendants, making the Wisconsin
 Ciriacks both uniquely identifiable and the largest of the dozen
 branches in the USA - almost all of which have been traced, back to a
 common ancestor born in the 17th century.
       We know our mysterious Uncle Hermann (1861 ~ ???), who disappeared
       ?subsequent to his arrival?, intended to come to the USA, because
       he had his wooden footlocker shipped to his older brother Claus
       Hinrich in Jackson, Wisconsin around 1878.  This trunk, with the
       surname 'CYRIACKS' inscribed in high german with a tail under the
       first I that made it a Y, had been passed along to Uncle Pete (as
       senior member of the Jackson/West Bend area family) who brought it
       along to our 1969 "watershed" mini-reunion at ... (well, the rest
       of that story is contained, with pictures, here.)

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             Name
             Sun, 03 May 1998 14:58:06
             Ben Ciriacks (To: John Ciriacks)

 COMMENTS:  ... Will be more than happy to add information when received
 but am really hoping that we find at least one family member interested
 in each of the various personages, especially those fluent in the
 languages containing most of the relevant research, to be able to take
 them on as their own project.  Anyone can E-Mail me their text, in HTML
 or ASCII format, and I'll upload it.
 Think it would be great for each family, or more specifically, each
 family member who is interested in maintaining it, to establish their
 own Web site and pages. ...
 Most of the time involved in any web site is spent during the creation
 process.  In our case, that was merely in typing the ... separate files
 making up the English, German, St. Cyriacus and Ciriaco De' Pizzicoli
 pages.  Once that information is created, it's a fairly simple process
 to convert it to HTML format for uploading to the site.
 ...  Am more than willing to help others get going or even upload what
 they have on my site until it gets too full BUT THEY will have to do the
 initial typing and send it to me as an E-MAIL, preferably in HTML
 format.  I'll edit it for TITLE LINES, underlining, background color and
 whatever, UNLESS IT'S SENT already HTML formatted and the accompanying
 text indicates to upload it AS IS.  ...
 One can get an idea of how I did it by downloading any page, C?X.HTM (or
 C?X.HTML for those using 4 digit extensions) and look at the code.  It's
 very simple and basic without frames, graphics, fancy coloring or
 whatever.  All that's nice but requires a lot more effort ... and makes
 editing the text portion of the original document a lot harder.
 Well, let me know what gives.  Send me material to upload or request
 specific help about what's needed to upload and maintain your (each CC:
 addressee included) own web site and I'll do what I can as soon as
 possible.  (..., it's not very difficult for hackers or others with
 knowledge about computers and web sites to get access to any hidden site
 - so don't anyone think these are REAL secure sites.  They aren't and,
 therefore, shouldn't contain anything anyone doesn't want the whole
 [internet] world to know about.)
 Signing off at 14:56 CST, Milwaukee, Ben.
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             Name
             City, State, Country
             Email address
             Sat, 02 May 1998 08:56:47
             John Ciriacks (To:  Ben Ciriacks)
             Neenah, WI, USA
             email this guestbook participant

 COMMENTS:  ... stories are a good way to keep an updated version of what
 we know. After May 13 ..., I'll email you more about Ciriaco of Ancona
 (1391-1452?). He met Albrecht Durer of Nuremberg ...  sparked my
 interest in Durer, whose delightful home/workshop in the old section of
 Nuremberg Bob and i toured last July ...
 Re: St. Cyriacus, I asked Patrick Pondl to look up in German books when
 he is home about this saint, ...
 Sun, 03 May 1998 11:11:39:  What you do think of starting a page like
 the Cyriacks/etc. of Etelsen/Baden, Germany/USA ...? Also for the
 Theriault family of ...?
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             Date & time received
             Name
             Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:04:19
             Ben Ciriacks (To: John Ciriacks)

 COMMENTS:  Thanks for the updated Email address list.  Here's some more
 found within the Compuserve membership.  Though the direct link hasn't
 been found between the Ciriacks/Cyriacks from the Bremen area and the
 Cyriax, Ciriack, Cyriak/Cyriaks, Cyriacus/Cyriakus, Cyriaque/Cyriac and
 Ciriaco of various other parts of Europe, I'm almost 95% sure we're
 distantly related through the origins in Greece to Italy to Germany and
 from Greece, Italy and Germany to France, the UK & United States and the
 rest of the world.  ...
 Internet (USA) telephone book searches:
 There are 40 Ciriacks and 1 Ciriack ... found in these 11 states:
 AZ=1 CA=1 CO=2 CT=1 FL=1 IL=2 KS=1 MN=2 NM=2 NY=1 WI=27
 As for Cyriacks, there are 28 in these 13 states:
 AK=1 CA=3 CO=1 FL=2 HI=1 KS=1 MN=5 NE=5 NJ=2 NY=4 OK=1 SD=1 WV=1
 The 13 Cyriax are reflected in these 7 states:
 AZ=2 FL=1 MI=2 NJ=4 BY=2 VA=1 WA=1
 30 Ciriaco in:
 AZ=1 CA=4 CO=1 FL=1 MD=1 NJ=4 NY=1=2 OH=3 OK=1 TX=1 VA=1
 3 Cyriacus: 0 Cyriaks 0 Cyriakus ?? Cyriak(NeedToSearch)
 CA=1 NJ=2
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             Date & time received
             Name
             City, State, Country
             December 19, 1966
             Edna M. Ciriacks
             Milwaukee, WI, USA

 COMMENTS:  The last paragraph of a letter sent in late 1966 was the real
 beginning of all the genealogical efforts accomplished on both the  and
 Terriau family names.  It indicates the nascent thoughts regarding
 genealogical research that eventually resulted in the  family picnics in
 West Bend, Wisconsin.
  Upon Edna's telephoning, urging and organizing, the first of those
 picnics was held in 1969 at the old covered bridge park in Jackson.
 (The picture shows Ben, Jack & Nancy's oldest daughter Lynne and Grandpa
 Al.)
     The second, slightly larger reunion among a dozen or so
 participants, was on Saturday, September 6th, 1969, also in Jackson, at
 Uncle Pete's artesian lake picnic area at the intersection of highways
 60 & 45 - we called him Uncle Pete but he was really our 2nd cousin once
 removed.  Both of those first two reunions were fairly small in
 attendance but large in impact upon the creation of a record of our
 family history.  {Nannette's future husband Chuck came to the latter
 reunion - he having just met her the previous evening at Octoberfest at
 the Bavarian Wursthaus in Milwaukee -- she telling him about the reunion
 but then not showing up herself.)  The 2nd reunion had the old wooden
 trunk with the  spelling:
       We know our mysterious Uncle Hermann (1861 ~ ???), who disappeared
       ?subsequent to his arrival?, intended to come to the USA, because
       he had his wooden footlocker shipped to his older brother Claus
       Hinrich in Jackson, Wisconsin around 1878.  This trunk, with the
       surname 'CYRIACKS' inscribed in high german with a tail under the
       first I that made it a Y, had been passed along to Uncle Pete (as
       senior member of the Jackson/West Bend area family) who brought it
       along to our 1969 "watershed" mini-reunion at ... (well, the rest
       of that story is contained, with pictures, here.)

 INDEX TO GUESTBOOK SUBMISSIONS:
 Ancona
 Argentina
 Arthur, King (5th century) [updated 3/17/14]
 Bachemin, Fabio
 Beginnings
 Bell, Brad
 Buckley
 CAR & Verano
 Casweck Galleries
 Chiriaco(Summit)
 Chiarkas, Erica
 Chiriacka, Ernest-Artist
 Cirak/Cirák
 Ciriaci 12th century discovery
 Ciriacks, Ben
 Ciriacks, Edna M.
 Ciriacks, Jean
 Ciriacks, John
 Ciriacks, Luke
 Ciriacks, Paul
 Ciriaco of Ancona
 Ciriaco Mosella, Marina
 Cirieco
 Ciriack, Elmer obit
 Ciriackes brothers
 Coffin, Dawn
 Condon, Dan
 Csorna/Cyriacus de Serna
 Cyiark, Christoper
 Cyriac Joseph Padavil
 Cyriac Kandoth
 Cyriac of Ancona
 Cyriac, Vivan Mathew
 Cyriacks Mangels, Adelaide
 Cyriacks, Fred 2 Hollywood mansions
 Cyriacks, Juergen
 Cyriacks, Jurgen
 Cyriaco Mosella, Marina
 Cyriacus, Stephan
 Cyriacus' death
 Cyriacus' surname
 Cyriacus de Serna/Csorna
 Cyriax-Africa
 Cyriax-Africa response
 Cyriax-Cyriacus connections
 Cyriax, Kortney
 Cyriaxweimar
 Czirak/Czirák
 Eliason, George-Author
 Ss. Felicity & Perpetua
 Ferryboat tragedy
 Garcia, Heather (ChiriacoSummit)
 GRAIL/GWRIC [updated 3/17/14]
 Hanson, Edna
 HollywoodFredMansions: 8/17/70 • 2/28/71 • 3/8/71 • 3/24/76 • 5/21/2014
 Houghton, Guy
 Kandoth, Cyriac
 Kessie, Kirsten
 Klaus
 Kuriakose
 Kuruvila
 Kyriakis, Sergio
 Lankershim Blvd Mansion
 Leibold, Robert
 Leipzig Cyriacus thread
 Mangels, Richard (Adelaide Cyriacks-Mangels)
 Mansions-2 Hollywood Fred
 Marucchi book refs
 Massimo, Gustavo
 Mosella, Marina Ciriaco
 McKenzie, Celia Updated: 1/7/2011
 Mgbada, Mr.
 Namibia
 Natsis, Margarita
 Padavil, Cyriac Joseph
 Ss. Perpetua & Felicity
 "Peter the Great" movie dog shot
 research beginnings
 Saunders, David-Author Genesis
 searching on surnames
 Sire, Paul-Author (Cyr Quiriacus) [updated 3/17/14]
 telephone book finds
 U. of Missouri Ciriaci find
 Verano & CAR
 web site creation help
 Westvall, Stephen
 Whipple St Mansion
 Whitcomb, Heather
 Wright, Diana-Author1/8~12/2011updated
 Zier, William David
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 Website link/location/URL: http://www.Cyriac-FHP.com

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