R-L165 (S68) Project FTDNA R1b1a2a1a1b5b - Results

Links to Companion Pages to the R-L165(S68) Project

The pages shown here all contain additional information regarding the Results of the R-L165(S68) project that cannot easily be included on the Public Website provided by FTDNA.  This information includes Genealogies and Genetic Matches to our project members and is updated regularly.




Overview of the R-L165/S68 Project
- Markers 1 - 67 including Genetic Distance and TMRCA Tables - UPDATED MARCH 25 2012


MARKERS 68 - 111 TESTING LEVEL RESULTS - UPDATED MARCH 25 2012




Identified R-L165/S68 Individuals
(no close genetic Haplotype matches to date)

Hammer  - anyone who has a genetic match within the allowable distances at 37 or 67 markers is eligible to join the project but may be required to order the L165 test from FTDNA from the advanced order menu within 60 days of acceptance if requested by the leadership.

99990/SSHT9- TESTED - SSHT9 Sven Olofsson Born: About 1615 Year Died: About 1710 Country of Origin: Orust Island, Bohuslen County, possibly born in Roera parish, Sweden Bohuslen County formerly part of Norway

Greenwade- anyone who has a genetic match within the allowable distances at 37 or 67 markers is eligible to join the project but may be required to order the L165 test from FTDNA from the advanced order menu within 60 days of acceptance if requested by the leadership.

40551 - TESTED - 2H2Z7 Thomas Greenwade circa 1800 Allegany County MD USA - conventional genealogical research has shown that this Greenwade family may be related to the Greenwood family of Norfolk England.

Haag - JOIN INVITATION SENT - 9X34Y- anyone who has a genetic match within the allowable distances at 37 or 67 markers is eligible to join the project but may be required to order the L165 test from FTDNA from the advanced order menu within 60 days of acceptance if requested by the leadership.

If you have tested positive with another company but are interested in having your surname included in the Identified R-L165/S68 Individuals listing, please contact us.





Identified R-L165/S68 Surnames


Note: The Deduced Ancestral Haplotypes shown on the pages linked below are derived from ALL known genetic matches and not just members of the project - in some cases this will cause the alleles at certain markers to differ from what is shown on the Public Results Page which in turn changes certain modals in the emerging L165 Haplotype - to see the emerging L165 Haplotype see Overview of the R-L165/S68 Project.

Ayton Haplotype - Genealogical Information, Analysis, TMRCA tables

Brownson Haplotype Genealogical Information, Analysis, TMRCA tables (Brunson Project at WorldFamilies.net)

Beall Haplotype - Genealogical Information, Analysis, TMRCA tables

Terrill / Terry Haplotype  - Refer to "Haplogroup R1b - Lineage ll"  (page administrator  is Conrad W. Terrill)

Mayberry Haplotype
- Genealogical Information, Analysis, TMRCA tables NEW MARCH 25 2012




Identified R-L165/S68 Clusters

(Surnames whose Modal Haplotypes are genetic matches within FTDNA allowable distances)


Note: The Deduced Ancestral Haplotypes shown on the pages linked below are derived from ALL known genetic matches and not just members of the project - in some cases this will cause the alleles at certain markers to differ from what is shown on the YDNA Results Page which in turn changes certain modals in the emerging L165 Haplotype - to see the emerging L165 Haplotype see Overview of the R-L165/S68 Project.

Cluster One Haplotype(s):
Olive Sub-Group of Clan Donald (formerly known as the Black Sub-Group) MacDonald, Buie of Jura, MacNeil of Barra - Genealogies, Analysis and TMRCA Tables

Clan Donald uses a color coded method of organizing its project results; the MacDonalds and Buies of Jura who are members of that project were designated as the Black Sub Group in part because of their shared R1b Haplotype.  The color used to describe their sub- group was recently changed to Olive by the Administrator of that project.  In various genetic studies, the group is referred to as either the Black Sub-Group or more recently, as the Olive Sub-Group; in example Klyosov Paper, Russian Academy of DNA Genealogy, June 2011, Volume 4, no. 6 refers to the Black Sub-Set or Sub-Group of MacDonalds on page 1213.  We use the identifier Olive Sub-Group of Clan Donald (formerly known as the Black Sub-Group) MacDonald to indicate that this is the group of haplotypes referred to in the Klyosov Paper (and/or others). For additional information on the sub-grouping of Clan Donald's YDNA results, please see Clan Donald



Cluster Two Haplotype(s)
- UPDATED MARCH 2012 - MacLeods, McNeill, Ross, Gallie, McKinney/Childress, McGirt - Genealogies, Analysis and TMRCA Tables

"Clan MacLeod is a fascinating case study. From a sample of the DNA of 45 Macleod Y chromosomes almost half, 47 per cent, clearly show social selection at work in that they descend from one individual. If this statistic is projected amongst the total number of MacLeods, it means that almost 10,000 men alive today are descended from this man. Among the remaining 53 per cent, researchers have found only nine other lineages present, showing that MacLeod men married women who were unfailingly faithful to them.


Nevertheless, the MacLeods do not carry the M17 marker group. Theirs is a recently discovered sub-group labelled S68. It is found in Lewis, Harris and Skye, core Macleod territory, but also in Orkney, Shetland and Norway, with a few examples in Sweden. Despite extensive screening, S68 is very specifically located, showing up only once in the east of Scotland and once in England. This is a classic pattern for a Viking marker in Britain, but one much rarer than M17. MacLeods determinedly claim descent from a common name father, a Norse aristocrat called Ljot, a relative of Olaf, King of Man. They are probably right to continue to claim that – science for once supporting tradition."  Scotland's DNA: Who do you think you are? - Part 4 

ACMS MacLeod Project at FTDNA - Administrators James B. MacLeod and Alexander McLeod -  link to join the FTDNA MacLeod Project or to order SNP testing

There are many R1b1a2 (formerly called R1b1b2) members of the ACMS Clan MacLeod Project who are not a close genetic match to the Clan MacLeod R1b Modal Haplotype who may yet be found to be R-L165 positive; Therefore, any R1b1a2 member who has not determined his downstream SNP's may request to join this project but will be required to order the L165 test (and receive a positive result) from FTDNA in order to remain a member of the project.  R-L165/S68 has certain modal alleles which indicate that an individual may be positive; however, some of those modals are found in other sub-clades of R1b as well.  In example, DYS 390 = 25 is found in almost all individuals positive for L-165 but is also found in R-L21 positive individuals; likewise with DYS 534 = 16 which appears in R-L165  positive individuals but also is seen in L-21. We encourage all R1b members of the ACMS MacLeod Project to test for SNP's to determine their sub-clade within R1b. In fact, we encourage all members of the ACMS MacLeod Project of whatever Haplogroup to SNP or Deep Clade Test in order that the ancestral diversity of the Clan be more fully understood.

To view the various Haplogroups and Sub-Clades emerging in the project please go HERE

 





Update March 5 2011 - FTDNA is now offering a universal deep clade test for $89 which will include the R-L165(S68) test; however, it may still be done as a single SNP test through the Advanced Order Menu for $29.00 (plus a small $9.95 one time transfer fee for those who have not Deep Clade or single SNP tested previously).

To facilitate dialogue among our project members, Tim W. McLeod has set up a Mailing List.  For additional information or to join the list:

 

http://mail.e3.ca/mailman/listinfo/l165group