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R-L165

R-L165 (S68)
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R-L165/(S68) Project

http://www.ytree.net/DisplayTree.php?blockID=597

SNP Positions on the YTree may change as additional information is known

SNP age estimations are fluid based upon Advanced Testing

STR estimations are based upon FTDNA TIP calculations

R-L165 - Undetermined Sub-Branches

Advanced testing is required to determine branches downstream of R-L165

Lowrey - Confirmed R-L165 - 6 genetic matches at 67 Marker Level – Most Recent Origin: Ireland

Cardoza/CarrConfirmed R-L165 – Origin: Undetermined

Mayberry - Confirmed R-L165 - 7 genetic matches at 37 Marker Level – Origin: Germany




Sub-Branch R-FGC20084 (R-L165>FGC20084)

Mode: DYS 393 = 12; DYS 389i&ii = 14,15,17,17

Deduced Age of Haplotype is approximately 410 years.

Members Origin: ENGLAND

Terrill/Terry - 3 of 14 members confirmed  - Origin: England circa 1610

Terrill/Terry Project



Sub-Branch R-BY456 (R-L165>BY456)

Mode: DYS 393=13; 389i&ii = 14,15,17,17

Formerly "Cluster Two" of the Project

Presant  - Confirmed Z198 Pack - negative on all other Z198 downstream SNP's – Origin: Undetermined.

Bronson Confirmed Z198 Pack - negative on all other Z198 downstream SNP's  - Origin: England.

Deduced Age of Haplotype is approximately 450 years

http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/brunson/results

Blinkhorn Confirmed by Single SNP - Genetic match with below. Origin: England

Recommend Z198 Pack or Big Y to determine if a downstream SNP is present.

- Presumed - Genetic match with above. Origin: England

Recommend Big Y Test or Z198 Pack

Sub-Branch R-S23468 (R-L165>BY456>S23468)


Sub-Branch R-S16419 (R-L165>BY456>S23468>S16419)


Members Origin: England

Ayton – Confirmed w/ BigY Origin: England

Deduced age of Haplotype is approximately 360 years

Sub-Branch R- BY3224 (R-L165>BY456>BY3224)

Members Origin: Undetermined

Elliot – Confirmed w/ BigY - Origin: Undetermined


Sub-Branch R-FGC29992 (R-L165>BY456>BY3224>FGC29992)

STR Estimation of Founder for this branch is after 770 BC and before 1300 AD

Members Origin: FRANCE and SCOTLAND

Rouquier – Confirmed w/ Big Y– nothing found below FGC29992 - Origin: France

STR estimated MRCA for Vaudelin and Bidoli lived between 1300 AD and 1650 AD (+/-200)

Bidoli/Bernardi Presumed– Origin: Italy (500 years)

STR estimated MRCA for Vaudelin and Rouquier lived between 1300 AD and 1650 AD (+/-200)

Beall / Bell –Confirmed with Big Y and Single SNP test - 2 members of 14 confirmed – Origin: Scotland. 

STR Estimation Founder for Beall/Bell lived 1600 AD (+/-200)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~formyfamily/DNA/L165%20Companion%20Pages/BeallBranchR-L165(S68).htm


Sub- Branch R- BY19719 (R-L165>BY456>BY3224>BY19719)

Robert  - Confirmed with BIG Y Genetic match with Lewis below. Origin: Undetermined

Lewis  - Presumed - Genetic match with Robert above. Origin: Undetermined – Recommend Single SNP Test

Sub-Branch R-S5643 (R-L165>BY456>BY3224>S5643)

Mode: DYS 393=13; DYS 389i&ii = 14,15,15,16

Deduced age of Haplotype is approximately 600 years (1400 AD)

Members Origin: Scotland

Recommend Big Y Test or Z198 Pack – Single SNP testing ($39.00) that returns a negative result will require additional testing. It is more affordable for members to order the Z198 pack ($119.00) due to currently known sub-branches below this SNP others in the block presenting additional possibilities.  The Big Y could reveal even more branches than shown here. (Update June 2017: BIG Y testing of individuals has revealed another branch under BY3210; that branch is BY19718)

Branches below R-S5643:

R-S5665 (R-L165>BY456>BY3224>S5643>S5665)

R-BY3253 (R-L165>BY456>BY3224>S5643>BY3253)

R-BY3210 (R-L165>BY456>BY3224>S5643>BY3253>BY3210)

BY19718 (R-L165>BY456>BY3224>S5643>BY3253>BY3210>BY19718)

BY13703 (R-L165>BY456>BY3224>S5643>BY3253>BY3210>BY13703)

Gallie – Presumed - Origin: Scotland

TMRCA to BY3210 MacLeod’s is 95% in 12 generation/100% in 24 generations

Carty – Presumed - Origin: Scotland

TMRCA to BY3210 MacLeod’s is 95% in 12 generation/100% in 24 generations

McGirt – Presumed – 25 marker level of testing / Confirmed R-L165

MacDonald – Presumed - Origin: Scotland

TMRCA to BY3210 MacLeod’s 95% in 16 generations/100% in 24 generations

McNeil of Skye - Presumed - 4 members  - Origin: Scotland

TMRCA to BY3210 MacLeod’s 95% in 16 generations/100% in 24 generations

Ross – Presumed - Origin: Scotland – Ross Project https://www.familytreedna.com/public/rossdnaproject/default.aspx?section=ycolorized

TMRCA to BY3210 MacLeod’s 95% in 12 generations/100% in 24 generations

Sub-Branch R-S5665 (R-L165>BY456>BY3224>S5643>S5665)

DYS 389i&ii = 14,15,15,16

Members Origin: Scotland

Linklater – Presumed* – Origin: Scotland

*ScotlandsDNA confirms four more Linklater’s from Orkney that are R-L165/S68+ > S5643+ > S5665+

Recommend Single SNP test for S5665


Sub-Branch R-BY3253 (R-L165>BY456>BY3224>S5643>BY3253)

DYS 389i&ii = 14,15,15,16

STR Estimation Founder lived between 980 AD– 1230 AD

Members Origin: Norway and Scotland

Stewart  (MRKA Hans Hasmen (Fasmer) - Confirmed – Origin: Norway

STR Estimation MRCA with Gronbekk lived between 980 AD – 1230 AD

Gronbekk – Presumed - Origin: Norway

STR Estimation MRCA with Stewart lived between 980 AD – 1230 AD

Rasmussin (Oremsbakken) – Confirmed - negative for R-BY3210 – Origin: Norway

Rasmussin Project https://www.familytree.com/surnames/Rasmussen

STR Estimation MRCA with Stewart/Gronbekk lived between 980 AD – 1230 AD

Monroe – Confirmed  - negative for R-BY3210 - Origin: Scotland

STR Estimation MRCA with Steward/Gronbekk/Rasmussin lived between 980 AD – 1230 AD


Sub-Branch R-BY3210 (R-L165>BY456>BY3224>S5643>BY3253>BY3210)

DYS 389i&ii = 14,15,15,16

STR Estimation Founder lived between 1230 AD and 1350 AD

Members Origin: Scotland

Clan MacLeod – Origin: Scotland

11 of 41 project members have confirmed through Big Y, Z198 Pack and Single SNP testing.

ACMS MacLeod Project - https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ACMS_MacLeod?iframe=yresults

http://clanhistories.com/Clan%20MacLeo1.pdf

Sub-Branch R-BY19718 - (R-L165>BY456>BY3224>S5643>BY3253>BY3210>BY13718)

McKinney/Childress - Presumed - 4 members – Origin: Undetermined but likely Scotland

TMRCA to BY3210 MacLeod’s 95% in 16 generations/100% in 24 generations

MacLeod – 1 member to date (6/2017)


Sub-Branch R-BY13703 - (R-L165>BY456>BY3224>S5643>BY3253>BY3210>BY13703)

DYS 389i&ii = 14,15,15,16

STR Estimation MRCA lived circa 1650 AD/

Members Origin: Scotland

Isle of Harris Branch (?) – 3 confirmed members/ 1 presumed/needs confirmation

Appears to be a small, related group of men with a history connected with the Isle of Harris. Several Single SNP results have returned negative for R-BY13703Unless there is a perfect STR match or a paper trail that suggests a relationship with one of the positive individuals, it is recommended that Big Y or Z198 Pack be ordered rather than this Single SNP.





Sub-Branch R-BY129 Branch (R-L165>BY129)

STR Modes (#5 & 6) DYS385 = 11-13 / (#10 & 12) DYS389 = 12 & 28

SNP Estimation Founder lived 770 BC

Members Origin:

Formerly "Cluster One" of the project


Recommend Big Y Test or Z198 Pack – Single SNP testing ($39.00) that returns a negative result for any downstream branch will require additional testing. It is more affordable for members to order the Z198 pack ($119.00) due to multiple currently known sub-branches below this Branch and others in the same block presenting additional possibilities.

Cluck/Colclough – Presumed – Origin: Scotland

STR estimated TMRCA with McCay/Buie/MacNeil/MacDonald cr 1300 AD

McPherson (235979/ 235923) Presumed– Origin: Scotland

STR estimated TMRCA with McCay/Buie/MacNeil/MacDonald cr 1300 AD

McCay – Presumed– Origin: Scotland

STR estimated TMRCA with McPherson between 1300 AD and 1700 AD

STR estimated TMRCA with Buie/MacNeil/MacDonald cr 1300 AD

McLennan – Presumed – Origin: Scotland

25 marker level of testing; sub-group of this individual may change with Advanced Testing

STR estimated TMRCA with McPherson/ McCay/Buie/MacNeil/MacDonald pre 1300 AD

Petrie – Presumed – Origin: Scotland

25 marker level of testing; sub-group of this individual may change with Advanced Testing

STR estimated TMRCA with McPherson/ McCay/Buie/MacNeil/MacDonald pre 1300 AD

Cameron – Presumed – Origin: Scotland

No matches above 25 markers

STR estimated TMRCA with McPherson/ McCay/Buie/MacNeil/MacDonald pre 1300 AD


Sub-Branch R-BY3225 (R-L165>BY129>BY3225)



Sub-Branch R-BY210 (R-L165>BY129>BY3225>BY210)

SNP Estimation Founder lived 980 AD

Members Origin: France

Arsenault – Confirmed with Big Y  - Origin: France

Armstrong - Confirmed  - Origin: France


Sub-Branch R-BY3219 (R-L165>BY129>BY3225>BY3219)

SNP estimate Founder lived 630 AD


Sub-Branch R-BY3200 (R-L165>BY129>BY3225>BY3219>BY3200)

SNP estimate Founder lived AFTER 630 AD


Sub-Branch R-BY15421 (R-L165>BY129>BY3225>BY3219>BY3200>BY15421)

DYS464 14, 15,16,17

STR estimate Founder lived between 1300 AD – 1550 AD (+/-200)

Members Origin: Scotland

Ralston - 2 of 3 members confirmed - Origin: Scotland


Sub-Branch R-BY3257 (R-L165>BY129>>BY3225>BY3257)

Members Origin: England

Recommend Big Y Test or Z198 Pack – Single SNP testing ($39.00) that returns a negative result for any downstream branch will require additional testing. It is more affordable for members to order the Z198 pack ($119.00) due to multiple currently known sub-branches below this Branch and others in the same block presenting additional possibilities.

Harding – Confirmed  - Origin: England

STR estimate MRCA to Redmond lived between 1300 AD– 1400 AD(+/-200)

Redmond – Presumed – Origin: England

STR estimate MRCA to Redmond lived between 1300 AD – 1400 AD(+/-200)

STR estimate MRCA to Pridgeon lived between 1300 – 1550 AD (+/-200)

Fox – Presumed - Origin: England

STR estimate MRCA to Pridgeon lived between 1300 – 1550 AD(+/-200)

Sub-Branch R-BY13648 (R-L165>BY129>BY3255>BY3257>BY13648)

STR estimate MRCA lived between 1300 AD – 1400 AD(+/-200)

Pridgeon - 2 members confirmed  - Origin: England

Tucker - 1 of 6 members confirmed  - Origin: England

Sub-Branch R-FGC40832 (R-L165>BY129>BY3225>FGC40832)

SNP estimate Founder lived 350 AD

Greenwade – Confirmed - Origin: England

Clark – Confirmed Origin: England

Hammer/Olafson- Confirmed Origin: Sweden

Sub-Branch R-BY5109 (R-L165>BY129>BY5109)

STR estimation Founder lived pre- 1300 AD

Members Origin: Scotland

Recommend Big Y Test or Z198 Pack – Single SNP testing ($39.00) that returns a negative result will require additional testing. It is more affordable for members to order the Z198 pack ($119.00) due to multiple known sub-branches below this branch and others in the block presenting additional possibilities.

MacDonald  - Presumed - 11 members undetermined  (1 MCKAY)

Graham – Presumed

STR TMRCA to Campbell is between 1297 AD and 1400 AD

Dunbar  Presumed

STR TMRCA to MacNeil/Curtis/Campbell is between 1300 AD and 1650 AD

Cameron – Presumed

STR TRMRCA to A10683 MacNeil’s/Campbell/McMullin is between 1300 AD and 1500 AD


Sub-Branch R-Y17559 (R-L165>BY129>BY5109>Y17559)

SNP Estimation Founder lived between 1330-1400 AD

Members Origin: Scotland

MacDonald  - 2 members as of February 2017


Sub-Branch R-Y5135 (R-L165>BY129>BY5109>Y5135)

SNP Estimation Founder lived between 1260 – 1330 AD

Members Origin: Scotland

MacDonald  - 1 member


Sub-Branch R-Y5108 (R-L165>BY129>BY5109>Y5135>Y5108)

STR Estimation MRCA lived 1400 AD

Members Origin: Scotland

MacDonald  - 1 member confirmed

Carmichael  - 1 of 5 members confirmed




Sub-Branch R-BY13651 (R-L165>BY129>BY5109>Y5135>Y5108>BY13651)

YCAII = 19-22

STR Estimation Founder lived 1500 AD(+/-100)

Members Origin: Scotland

Buie of Jura  - 1 of 5 members confirmed

Sub-Branch R-BY3269 (R-L165>BY129>BY5109>Y5135>Y5108>BY3269)

Members Origin: Scotland

Campbell – Confirmed

STR TMRCA to A10683 MacNeil’s is between 1300 AD and 1400 AD (+/-100)

STR TMRCA to Curtis is between 1500 AD and 1650 AD

Curtis – Presumed -

STR TMRCA to Campbell is between 1500 AD and 1650 AD

McMullin/McMillan Confirmed

STR TMRCA to A10683 MacNeil’s is between 1300 - 1500 AD (+/100)

MacPherson – (42984) Presumed

STR TMRCA to A10683 MacNeil’s is between 1500 AD and 1650 AD

Hickey – Presumed

STR TMRCA to A10683 MacNeil’s is between 1500 AD and 1650 AD


Sub-Branch R-A10683 (R-L165>BY129>BY5109>Y5135>Y5108>BY3269>A10683)

SNP Estimate Founder lived about 1540 AD (+/-200)

Clan MacNeil of Barra  - 2 members confirmed  - A10683 available as Single SNP Test

The MacNeil Project

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13197315.Macneil_clan_shocked_as_DNA_checks_force_rewrite_of_history/


Sub-Branch R-A11118 (A8549+ at YSEQ)

(R-L165>BY129>BY5109>Y5135>Y5108>BY3269>A10683>A11118)

STR/Lineage Estimate Founder lived about 1640 AD

Clan MacNeil of Barra  - Roderick 38th Chief - 3 members confirmed -A11118 available as Single SNP Test –