So here I am after the Big Y. My Robinson friend and I are puzzled as to how we wound up here. I'm back to 1860 census in GA on the Wilson side with that person born in SC in 1809. Any thoughts or suggestions? Thank you.
Not much happened for me immediately after testing for BigY, but recently another person with the surname Formanoy showed up with BigY results that placed in a new haplogroup of E-FT209037, which created a new branch from our previous E-L1250 (downstream from E-V22). This information does not help us much with the past few hundred years for a MRCA, but his family research has proven to be not only interesting but helps explain how our Egyptian ancestor moved North, eventually resulting in my family moving from Scotland to America.
One of the most significant observations I have made between our two STR comparisons is that the DYS459 allele for us is 6-9, which is very unique among E-M35/E-V22 results, the mode being 9-9. When I then look at Ramsay/Ramsey matches at lower levels, I find many with this same 6-9 result.
I am working hard to get more of my lower level matches to upgrade, and am waiting to find out the results of two which I have convinced to upgrade.
I predict that we will find an even more recent subclade when we all match up the BigY results.
While it might be coincidental, one of the most interesting things I learned from being matched up with the Formanoy BigY tester, is that he has traced his surname through Belgium to Northern France, and then pointed out to me that there are two towns in Northeastern France, near the Belgium border, named Fourmanoir and Ramousies. Coincidental? Possibly, but quite interesting, the proximity of the towns, the similarity between the town names and our surnames, and the fact that we are linked with DNA.F
Many Wilsons show up in my lower level matches, so I encourage any of them to upgrade whenever it is possible.
My 9th or more cousin got his Big Y700 results night before last. I originally thought our lines split about 1720 in Pennsylvania as that's where our Family Trees start but given the number of non-matching Private Variants (apparently 17 between the two of us) it could be several hundred years earlier. Currently my Big Y700 results say 25 non-matching Private Variants and 1 shared. My cousin is a GD 8 (6 of 616 Big Y STR differences) at Y111 and a GD 2 at Y67. I have 7 GD 5 or less matches at Y67, all of them either Wilsons or Telfords going back to the area of Hawick, Scotland (Scottish Border Area) with the earliest dated 1675. The R1b admins think our split could have occurred in the 1200s but I find that a little hard to believe.
I should add our Terminal SNP is FT92354 which is estimated to be 3,100 years old. At least one (likely more) new SNPs better come out of this.
So I'm working the paper trail from this end, and the BIGY at the other. I have a Joseph Wilson B 1824 in SC on the paper trail, and this at the end of the DNA trail. I'm hoping my brother will test soon, and I'm trying to find other male descendants in my line who could test. Anything else I can do?
I thought I'd throw this in. It is a section of the Voter Index for Sacramento County, California from 1866 showing some of the "W" surnames. Along with my great great grandfather John Sroaf Wilson (born in Tennessee in 1826) there's a Mark Willson born in Poland and a John Anderson Wilson born in Sweden. A search of the 3 pages with Wilsons turned up two Wilsons from Denmark, two more from Sweden, one more from Poland, and one each from Ireland, Scotland and England. The rest of the Wilsons were from the Mid-West, East, South and even one born in Oregon in 1842. My point being that not all Wilson lines originated in the British Isles.
Wilson admins, thank you for grouping we four Wilson/Ramsey/Barnett together, but I do think that we need to be group together with kit 54449 Robert Wilson separately, as we are all E-V22 and downstream and match up more closely with him.
Erick Rooker (Wilson) 1 hour ago
"There are at least dozen's of unrelated Wilson families. So, yes, SOME Wilson's are Scottish (both northern and southern), many more are not Scottish."
Seems to be a concern among the admins in a surname project whether I am related to their surname, so included this graphic to show that I am related to a Jessica, and a Roger Wilson.
From FTDNA Montgomery blog, felt it had to do a lot with surname Wilson. Felt it would be worth sharing with group.
Thomas Wilson -
Being the first Scottish Wilson in this project way back when we only had about twenty members, I have seen it grow and grow over the years. I wonder if it is time to slip the project into major haplogroups for R, I, and J etc.?
This the family of James Canniff Wilson in Glenora Ontario Canada. His father Stewart Wilson was born in Johnstown, New York 1795. I am researching with Ancestry PRO GEN to learn how back I can go. Stewart's (Stuart) father presumed to be Charles Wilson. One of the children pictured is my grandfather on the far right.
Looking for the father of John Charles Wilson, born either 1816 or 1821, in either Baltimore, MD or Dorchester County Maryland. He moved to Arkansas by 1840 or 1850 and married Sarah Ann Columbia Sudsberry/Sudsbury. Note the sailor suit the child is wearing. If anyone thinks this picture is helpful, let me know and I will try to post one with his face displayed. Thank you.