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David Wilson David Wilson
October 21 @ 10:22am
So here I am after the Big Y. My Robinson friend and I are puzzled as to how we wound up here. I'm back to 1860 census in GA on the Wilson side with that person born in SC in 1809. Any thoughts or suggestions? Thank you.
David Wilson David Wilson has a question!
September 12 @ 8:43pm
If you have a genetic distant of 0 is that your perfect match? What does distance mean?
Mark Wilson
September 28 @ 1:02am
My great to the 4th grandparents (George Bailey Wilson and Agnes Nancy McMackin) were married in Greene County, Tennessee (likely still North Carolina then as Tennessee didn't become a state until 1798) in 1786. The Magistrate for the marriage banns was John Sevier, first governor of Tennessee. You match me more than most people from that area of the country so we certainly come from the same gene pool. We match more than my distant cousins by a large margin. Here are the results. Note I dropped the cM parameter down to 3. Comparing Kit M942143 (Mark Wilson) [Migration - V4 - M] and A297156 (*marionleonsgirl) [Migration - F2 - A] Minimum segment threshold size to be included in total = 200 SNPs Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM Mismatch-bunching Limit will be adjusted dynamically to 60 percent of the segment threshold size for any given segment. Chr B37 Start Pos'n B37 End Pos'n Centimorgans (cM) SNPs 1 9,341,038 11,711,485 4.2 244 5 36,644,300 38,622,131 3.5 203 10 2,744,038 3,719,164 4.8 201 12 127,512,505 128,666,287 5.1 245 14 54,375,228 56,803,764 3.7 263 20 9,051,482 10,879,336 5.3 300 Largest segment = 5.3 cM Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 26.4 cM (0.737 Pct) My great to the 3rd grandfather John N Wilson was born in Tennessee. He seems to have moved around a lot but was a fairly affluent landowner in St. Louis at the time of his death in 1845.
Mark Wilson
September 28 @ 1:04am
I'll take the results from GEDMatch and load them into my 23andMe DNA Relatives spreadsheet. I have nine 1st and 2nd cousins on 23andMe so you hopefully will also show a match to them.
Mark Wilson
September 28 @ 1:37am
There were a couple of minor overlaps with my Wilson cousins and another one to my mother's Chalmers relatives. If you are on Family Finder check for surname Wilson to see if my father's 1st cousin Bill shows up. At best it would be a ;5th cousin match so don't expect much. I'd say our chances of being in the same Wilson line are no more than 10%. That of course would be very hard to prove.
Edie OBrien
October 13 @ 5:53pm
My Wilson line is from TN and GA and also wound up in Yalobusha County, MS. I compared and got similar results using 3cM. The largest segment was 5.3 on chromosome 15 and a total half match equal to 35.5 cM. 9 shared segments were found. My kit number is A964752.
Mike Ramsey Mike Ramsey has a question!
October 8 @ 6:11am
Admins David and Eric, I have been concentrating on the DYS459 allele to identify close matches by STRs, and have noticed that my close matches all have the mutation 6-9, as compared to the most common 9-9 result. Looking at the DNA Results groupings, I believe we should move the following kits to form a new grouping: 74582, 839478 (me), 866365, 115118, 453465 201178, 201373, and 201087. Note that each of these eight kits has the 6-9 mutation for DYS459, distinct from all the other results. Thank you for considering this regrouping.
Mike Ramsey Mike Ramsey
October 3 @ 8:50am
Not much happened for me immediately after testing for BigY, but recently another person with the surname Formanoy showed up with BigY results that placed in a new haplogroup of E-FT209037, which created a new branch from our previous E-L1250 (downstream from E-V22). This information does not help us much with the past few hundred years for a MRCA, but his family research has proven to be not only interesting but helps explain how our Egyptian ancestor moved North, eventually resulting in my family moving from Scotland to America. One of the most significant observations I have made between our two STR comparisons is that the DYS459 allele for us is 6-9, which is very unique among E-M35/E-V22 results, the mode being 9-9. When I then look at Ramsay/Ramsey matches at lower levels, I find many with this same 6-9 result. I am working hard to get more of my lower level matches to upgrade, and am waiting to find out the results of two which I have convinced to upgrade. I predict that we will find an even more recent subclade when we all match up the BigY results. While it might be coincidental, one of the most interesting things I learned from being matched up with the Formanoy BigY tester, is that he has traced his surname through Belgium to Northern France, and then pointed out to me that there are two towns in Northeastern France, near the Belgium border, named Fourmanoir and Ramousies. Coincidental? Possibly, but quite interesting, the proximity of the towns, the similarity between the town names and our surnames, and the fact that we are linked with DNA. Many Wilsons show up in my lower level matches, so I encourage any of them to upgrade whenever it is possible.
Roger Barnett
October 3 @ 5:04pm
Mike, let you know something when my Big Y comes back.
Robert Wilson Robert Wilson
December 12, 2019 @ 10:53am
This the family of James Canniff Wilson in Glenora Ontario Canada. His father Stewart Wilson was born in Johnstown, New York 1795. I am researching with Ancestry PRO GEN to learn how back I can go. Stewart's (Stuart) father presumed to be Charles Wilson. One of the children pictured is my grandfather on the far right.
Mark Wilson
September 23 @ 4:54pm
I'd really like to see someone come up with a good answer to that question. In my opinion there are simply too many Wilson lines and it's impossible to prove a negative. The Y111 and possibly the Y67 test might strongly indicate you belong to a certain surname line. That's the best I can come up with.
Robert Wilson
September 24 @ 9:12am
Kudos to those that colorize all the numbers with the blues and reds. Must take a lot of time.
Robert Wilson
October 3 @ 9:35am
It seems (assumed) LOL that the Wilson family pictured is MILLS. The father to this family Stewart Wilson of Picton, Ontario/New York could be MILLS. His Wilson presumed father Charles is Irish. My MILLS is Netherlands and no Ireland ancestors. ( Ancestry Pro-Gen report.) Question: How did we become WILSON?
Mark Wilson
October 3 @ 1:30pm
Hey Robert. A surname is just a label and can be changed for many reasons. I can show you a couple of pages from the 1866 Sacramento Voter Registration document that has Wilsons from Poland, Sweden and even Mexico. There wasn't anything keeping people from changing their surname when they moved to a new location back then.
James Wilson James Wilson
September 29 @ 12:51pm
I need help with genetic math. Like you, I have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great grandparents and so on. If each generation is worth 25 years, and I take this doubling logic back 36 generations, this shows I would have had 68 Billion 34X Great Grandparents living around the years 1000 AD. Google says the world population estimate for 1000 AD was 310 Million people. How could I have 68 Billion ancestors around this time when the world population was only 310 Million? What am I missing?
Mark Wilson
September 29 @ 3:02pm
There's a quote by comedian Brett Butler. (she played the bartender on Anger Management). "I'm so Southern I'm related to myself." To explain it: Southerners are notorious for marrying cousins, 2nd cousins and so on. The woman who taught me to do genealogical research was Southern and told us that it got easier the further back you went as you kept running into the same names.
Roger Barnett
September 30 @ 11:39am
Sandra Dietz Sandra Dietz
September 14 @ 8:01pm
i have not checked out this project for some time and no longer see wilson under my kit 162016 or my brother's 162014. since i last posted i seem to have cousin matches to william 1722-1801 wilson of wardensville, hardy, wv (va until 1863) who married elizabeth blackburn. my ancestor who is his peer is henry ca 1750-1805 wilson of same place. from henry my line is in mill gap/lost river, hardy, wv which is still close by with ancestor john ca 1767-1847 who had 16 children with i believe possibly 3 wives.
Charles Highfill
September 15 @ 5:12pm
I have the same heritage. My comes from his son Benjamin.
Charles Highfill
September 24 @ 9:35pm
Do you have a Gedmatch number?
Dale Wilson Dale Wilson has a question!
September 22 @ 1:54pm
Hi everyone. I am new at this geneology research. My Dad is Garrett eugene Wilson, born to Charles Roscoe Wilson and Lillian May Wise Sept 29, 1906. What I have been told is my grandfather Charles dies before my dad got to know him. He was born in Illiinois and died somewhere in Missouri. My grand mother Wilson remarried a John S. Suman; to that marriage a daughter Zella Blanch Suman was born. When Mr Suman died in Missouri, she later married Thomas Benton East and they had a daughter Serena East. He later died in Olkahoma City, OK. My grandmother East lived with our family for a number of years before she passed As a young child I only knew her as Grandma East and not Grandma Wilson. My Dad was born in West Plains, Howell County, Missouri. My geand mother was born in Laplata, Macon county, Missouri.
Mark Wilson
September 22 @ 6:37pm
Again from the Overton Family Tree: James Wilson 1808–1854 BIRTH 1808 • Adair, Kentucky, USA DEATH 23 DEC 1854 • Glasgow, Scott, Illinois, USA Parents: Nathaniel Wilson 1773–1848 Susannah A Stephens 1773–1851 I should add. This tree has a lot of photographs.
Mark Wilson
September 22 @ 6:47pm
Beginning of the line. Nathaniel Wilson 1773–1848 BIRTH ABOUT 1773 • Henry, Virginia, USA DEATH 05 JUN 1848 • Adair, Kentucky, USA I hope you've taken the Family Finder test, Nathaniel and Susannah had 11 children that lived into the mid to late 1800's so I'd expect many hits. The same would go for a Y DNA test.
Mark Wilson
September 23 @ 12:37am
I'm debating if I should put this into a new thread but I'll put it here first. Checkout the Overton project at https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/overton/about/results All the different Overton members are grouped into color coded clans. Anybody else think it looks like a good model for separating out a family with multiple lines? Granted the Overtons only have 10 clans while there would likely be a hundred or more Wilson clans but I think it could work as a template.
Robert Wilson
September 23 @ 8:52am
Howdy from Houston, MO.
Mark Wilson Mark Wilson
August 27 @ 12:40am
My 9th or more cousin got his Big Y700 results night before last. I originally thought our lines split about 1720 in Pennsylvania as that's where our Family Trees start but given the number of non-matching Private Variants (apparently 17 between the two of us) it could be several hundred years earlier. Currently my Big Y700 results say 25 non-matching Private Variants and 1 shared. My cousin is a GD 8 (6 of 616 Big Y STR differences) at Y111 and a GD 2 at Y67. I have 7 GD 5 or less matches at Y67, all of them either Wilsons or Telfords going back to the area of Hawick, Scotland (Scottish Border Area) with the earliest dated 1675. The R1b admins think our split could have occurred in the 1200s but I find that a little hard to believe. I should add our Terminal SNP is FT92354 which is estimated to be 3,100 years old. At least one (likely more) new SNPs better come out of this.
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Mark Wilson
August 27 @ 11:08am
No, this is the only document I've found that touches on using DNA analysis and it only refers to haplogroup R-M222 ("Naill of the Nine hostages"). https://mineralogicalrecord.com/wilson/pdfs/02.%20Ancient%20Origins%20of%20Wilson-Revised.pdf There seem to be a number of Wilson lines belonging to haplogroup I (I recall Ayrshire as being one of the hot spots) but don't know of any organized documentation on that.
James Wilson
September 12 @ 4:06pm
Thanks for the info Mark. Do you know which Wilson line you descend from?
Mark Wilson
September 12 @ 6:40pm
Another distant cousin lives in Melbourne, Australia. His family left Hawick (pronounced HOYK), Scotland in the early 1850s. One of his great to the something uncles is the James Wilson who founded the magazine "The Economist" in the 1840's. James's nephew James Glenny Wilson is known as "The Father of :New Zealand Agriculture". That's as close to a line as I can come up with though it's pretty obvious my branch was in Pennsylvania in the early to mid 1700s. From our current Terminal SNP it looks like our paternal line lived in the Eastern Alps about 3,000 years ago. It's interesting that the Amesbury Archer (buried near Stonehenge) was also from the Eastern Alps but he lived about 4,300 years ago.
Erick Rooker (Wilson)
September 13 @ 4:23pm
James, There appear to at least a few dozen and possibly hundreds unrelated Wilson lines. I have Y111 and Big Y matches showing lineage in Ulster, leading to believe my line was lowland or borderland Scots. Unfortunately, I have a brick wall at my 4th great grandfather in Kentucky in the very early 1800's.
Violet  Robinson Violet Robinson
September 11 @ 6:32pm
My name is Heather Douglas this is my mothers Family Finder DNA test I think it is under the name of Violet Robinson her last husband who she said was some sort of cousin. Her and I seem to have three entirely different groups of Wilson's the English from around the border area with Scotland and England I share this with my father also the Scottish and the Irish matches which at the present time seem to be a bit of a mystery although both the Scottish and English probably share relationships with them maybe soldiers, cropping or/and weaving. Quite a few Mills have come up on my mtDNA possibly a mother thing also.
Mark Wilson
September 12 @ 1:32am
Hello Heather. As you've discovered Wilson is a very common name in the British Isles and in America it gets even worse. In the 1866 voter registration document for Sacramento, California there are Wilsons from Poland, Sweden and even Mexico. The majority of men in this group have taken Y DNA tests which can sometimes narrow down where a particular line originated from. My R-U152-L2 branch of Wilsons originated in Hawick (pronounced HOYK), Scotland maybe 500 years ago. Hawick is about 15 miles North of the border with England so there's a slight chance we share a Wilson ancestor. If you're in contact with any male Wlson relatives you might ask them if they'd be interested in taking a Y DNA test. Robinson also appears to be a fairly common as I show 24 relatives on Family Finder with it listed in their Family Surnames. For Douglass I'm showing 11.