Wallace - WALLIS

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Bruce Wallace Bruce Wallace has a question!
January 14 @ 9:50am
Hello, My Dad's DNA has been on FTDNA and this project for a few years now. He just finished the Big Y after going through several upgrades. Not really sure what to do with the results since the Big Y returned with no matches. Our oldest known male ancestor is JOHN Wallace, b. 1719, Grandtully, Perthshire, Scotland with parents of Robert Wallace and Christian McGregor. JOHN was the Head Gardener at Murthly Castle and I believe both Murthly and Grandtully were owned by the same family. He was succeeded as gardener in turn, by 3 of his sons. It is said that JOHN'S father and grandfather were Head Gardeners for the same family. JOHN's Grandson immigrated with his family to Westchester, NY in 1848. I am hoping to make some connections. Thank you so much for helping.
Bruce Wallace
February 26 @ 6:12pm
My Dad's BigY700 results are in. Not sure what they are telling us. Still no matches and his group is now R-BY11894. Can anyone help me with what that might mean?
Donald K Wallace
March 2 @ 9:42am
Thank you for your inquiry. In the total context of your data, the Big Y and your YDNA results have done for you what they can do. To gain from them, look in relationship to the data available from your family history and Family Finder test results. You have pretty complete testing. In short your data suggests you want to look for relationships in Scotland who descend from kin going back to before your family migrated to the U.S. in the mid 1800s. Your BigY700 tells us of your line back in Scotland. That you have no matches indicates no deep kin have tested and, likely, your terminal SNP is relatively rare. This is supported by review of your Family Finder matches. One of your Family Finder matches takes you to a living Scot named Wallace living in Stirling, Scotland today (as a cousin, I've had my picture taken with him). That Scot Wallace of Stirling matches into a complex of Wallaces living in Maryland in the 1600s (they are my Wallaces and his matches to them are numerous). Another of your matches is to another match of mine. That match is of Wallaces who are relatively recent immigrants from Scotland. All of this suggests that you look for Wallace connections currently of Scotland rather than the U.S. This is supported by other evidence. In the entire database, you have some 5 Family Finder Wallace matches of whom 3 are in the project. They are relative close matches at 2nd > 5th cousin levels. By contrast, you have 14 Stewart matches at 3rd > 5th cousin levels. This suggests that you may want to look over your Stewart relationships. Again, since you don't recognize them, they are likely of an earlier Scot origin. So, I suggest you look for Stewart matches. As you find them, you will likely be looking at common ancestors of Scotland. Also, I see two YDNA Bruce Wallaces in the project. They line up as a father/son relationship. If so, using those two together will help you group Family Finder matches by the side of the family on which you can find them. Given that you are looking rather deep, you may want to look at the family tree you have published and add to it wherever you can do that reliably.
Mark Griffith Mark Griffith
January 18 @ 9:04am
Hello, I can go back to my maternal Grandfather Henry Moore and I believe his father was Richard B. Moore and mother was Edna Wallace. I have reached out to several people who I share the Wallace DNA with, but, sadly, never get a response. Do the above names strike a cord with anyone here? I believe it was South Carolina, and my grandfather was given up to an orphanage there.
Donald K Wallace
February 5 @ 7:03am
Just checked. One of your close (2nd > 4th) cousins in the project is active. If you share some of your correspondence with me, maybe I can help. Project membership is most productive when we actively share with one another.
sherri vermette
February 5 @ 7:00pm
Mark, my grandmother's aunt was Edna Wallace. Do you have any birthdates, adoption dates, or further information available to see if it's the same one?
Loïc Mairesse Loïc Mairesse has a question!
October 20 @ 10:51am
Question about analysis of share segments in autosomal test: I recently did an autosomal test and started to analyse results, specially on chromosome #3. I found 6 persons with whom I share a segment, starting and finishing almost at the same area. The average (6 persons and I) of cM is 22 and the average of SNP's is 3500. In a second time, I compared the shared segment of chromosome #3 one to one. The result is that they share, without me, about 20 cM and 3500 SNP's. And here is my questions: 1- Is those results are relevant to say that those 6 persons and I are absolutely related and have a common ancestor ? 2- Is it possible that this result is a coincidence ? 3- Could this shared segment come from a single ancestor or multiplied ancestors ? For more information, I can send an Excel sheet with details. Thanks for your help; Loïc Mairesse
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James Cogswell
January 18 @ 1:57pm
Don, I'm very sorry but I got all caught up in the Holidays and I have no idea where time went. Also I was working with a man putting my info on WikiTree. No, I don't live near Maryville, TN but I will also work from that angle. My e-mail is blackcrow70084@yahoo.com. (c) 985 212 0720 , (h) 985 536 4776. Would be very happy happy with some assistance on the new browser.
Patricia Boardman
January 20 @ 8:42am
Don, Do you think I am related to this Maryville Wallace? My Wallaces lived in East Tennessee before moving to Texas. I lived in Knoxville for 6 years and didn't know at the time.
Donald K Wallace
February 5 @ 6:20am
Pat, your DNA match set renders it rather clear that you relate to some of the Wallaces of Maryville, TN who migrated there in the late 1700s. See my note to James Cogwell. Your ancestors seem caught up in the same Carolina mixing bowl as his.
Donald K Wallace
February 5 @ 6:32am
Pat, one of your matches is to a project member, Luther Kelly Wallace, whose sponsor, Blanche Wallace, published the book, DESCENDANTS AND KIN OF TOLIVER WALLACE 1809-1866. This book traces the family from the Carolinas to Georgia and on to Alabama. The basis for the mixing is unclear but I found you in a match to a project member of New Zealand. The common parent for all is likely back in Scotland not later than about 1600.
John Thomas Alexander John Thomas Alexander
November 18 @ 9:03pm
Hello! Thought I would post to say thank you for adding me to the group and introduce my DNA... I'm kit # 854149 I seem to have a link on both paternal and maternal likes to the surname Wallis who happens to be a member of this project. Maternal grandmother is McDonald surname, maternal grandfather is McDaniel surname and paternal connection would be the Alexander surname. I'm a member of the Alexander DNA project and have been placed in the "Glasgow Alexander group in that project.
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Patricia Boardman
February 2 @ 3:28pm
John, I have Wallaces from NC and TN and also Rankins on my McCullough side.
John Thomas Alexander
February 2 @ 10:25pm
Thanks! Was just looking at My AncestryDNA results and see some people who have the surname Wallis/Wallace showing up. Also finding additional family members in North Carolina and Tennessee with the Moss surname.. The work continues!
Patricia Boardman
February 3 @ 10:14am
John, I have hundreds of Alexanders and Rankins on Ancestry. I was looking for you but gave up after 300. I am pretty sure we are distant cousins.
John Thomas Alexander
February 4 @ 10:57pm
Interesting! Would be nice to try and find our common ancestor.
James Walls James Walls has a question!
February 1 @ 10:15pm
Any other WALLS out there? Got my Big-Y done a few years ago, but no idea what to do with it. Last known paternal relative was from Kircudbright area in Scotland, born ~1804.
Mark Griffith Mark Griffith
August 21 @ 9:02am
Hello, looking at my kit in GedMatch for Eurogenes EUTEST V2 K15, I see that my North Sea percentage is higher then my Atlantic. Most DNA sites list my Scottish ancestry as the highest percentage. Scandanavian varies in all of them from 8% to 42%. My question is, does the Wallace line have origination in Scandinavia? Is this the reason for my percentage variation? Or am I just also from there? Thank you!
Donald K Wallace
August 23 @ 11:53pm
Your Family Tree DNA autosomal test results are consistent with the Eurogenes results you cite. A few project members, not necessarily Wallaces, identify origins in Scandanavia. In the absence of specific information relating to your male Wallace line, a reasonable conclusion is that a significant proportion of your ancestors are also of Scandinavian origin.
Richard Wallace
September 21 @ 3:19pm
Mark ALOT of Scandinavian DNA comes from the Vikings which traveled alot throughout the known and unknown world. Spreading their genes everywhere. My Wallace lines show some, so does a 4th cousin however his shows more % than ours. He is also showing we branched off one another about 400 to 600 years ago.
Bill Wheeler
September 21 @ 6:40pm
R1b1a1a2a1a1c2b: L48 > Z155 445 N144382 William Wheeler, b. 1670, d. 1738; All Hallows, MD R-BY41830 453 73090 GRP 3 - Ebenezer Wallace c1765 MA-1842 EllisburgNY. R-M269. 454 392947 Ebenezer Wallace, b. 1765 and d. 1842 R-BY41585 My connection to Wallaces' directly under haplogroup R-S9342. I have a lot of Scandanavian connection that happened at least an estimated > 1,000 years ago.
Richard Wallace
February 1 @ 4:12pm
Bill Wheeler William Wallace is most likely my cousin Bill and we are of that Ebenezer Wallace line. William started a Facebook group on Ebenezer Wallace and decendants. Search Facebook, not to many Ebenezer's out there.
VAVETTE BLEVINS VAVETTE BLEVINS has a question!
November 10 @ 11:00pm
Good evening, I am relatively new to FTDNA and am wondering how I can see if I have Wallis matches. My direct ancestors are James Shelley William Wallis 1859 - 1945 b. Smith County TX - son of John Wallis 1798 - 1862 b. Chester SC - son of Hugh Wallis 1775 - 1812 unknown place of birth - son of William B. Wallis who emigrated from Scotland in 1783. It would be nice to make some connections! Have a blessed evening.
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VAVETTE BLEVINS
January 20 @ 9:00pm
William, I will check it out in a few minutes. With the holidays and a new semester starting I'm behind the power curve. I will help you in any way I can, I don't get to sign here as much as I like so if you need to contact me outside of here my email is vavette66@yahoo.com
VAVETTE BLEVINS
January 20 @ 9:20pm
Donald, thank you so much. Yes, I see I have quite a few Flato's in my matches some of which are close matches. X matches as well. I am new to all of this so I am just beginning to understand what it all means.
VAVETTE BLEVINS
January 22 @ 10:18am
Donald, I have spent a few days researching the Talladega AL Wallis connection along with the Flato family connection. DNA shows us as being very close cousins, there is no evidence of this. BUT... I did discover that the Wallis' married into some of my other families, i.e. Reeves, Barnett's and Cox's. I was surprised to see the connections time after time, but given that when families migrated to new areas and the marrriage pool only consisted of the nearby families it is understandable. I am sure that the matches via 4 separate families lines would cause a larger match (maybe I'm wrong on this) . William I checked out the link to James Shelley Wallis and it looks very accurate minus my grandmothers name spelling it is Reby Pearl. Thanks so much have a blessed day.
Donald K Wallace
January 30 @ 5:33am
Your are correct about cousin marriages increasing matching power. Your focus is on recent generations likely closer than your matches to the Flatos and you are obviously effectively using the project to further your objectives. I looked again at your closest Flato match. Among his matches is a Wallace who lives today in Ireland. Reviewing her Wallace matches and surnames, it appears her ancestors have lived in Ireland since Scot Wallaces first began settling there in the 1600s or earlier. Her Wallace Family Finder matches can be traced by YDNA from deep in Scot genealogical history down to today's Wallaces who are scattered worldwide. Evidence suggests there has been an abundance of cousin marriages.
Cecilia Rucker Cecilia Rucker
January 24 @ 10:48pm
Hey everyone. I am knew to these projects (well I joined in August). I am confused as to how it works or how I can see who I match to within the group. But I have Wallace’s on my tree. I descend from Mudge Caleb Wallace last from Kentucky. There is a book “Life and Times of Judge Caleb Wallace” that might be very helpful in your searches. It was to me. It filled in some no,es. It gives some Wallace history as well as family lineage. I apologize if this is old information to everyone.
Cecilia Rucker
January 24 @ 10:51pm
That should be “Judge” Caleb Wallace. The Wallace’s that married into my family came from Kentucky to South Carolina.
Donald K Wallace
January 30 @ 4:32am
The book to which you refer was written long before DNA testing came along. Judge Caleb Wallace is generally identified as a descendant of a Peter Wallace who married Elizabeth Woods. Elizabeth and her children immigrated to Cecil County, MD about 1724. Many of your matches are consistent with descent in this line. If you follow up with your matches, you will see that DNA testing associates you with others who may reasonably claim descent from the Wallace family you identify as yours. These same test results will lead you to a Wallace lineage that can be traced by family history and DNA to the earliest genealogical times of Scotland. You are at the beginning of this journey. Have fun.
marie lyons marie lyons
January 27 @ 3:07pm
I am looking for my Wallace ancestors that were living in New Brunswick, Canada. I believe that John Wallace came to New Brunswick with his wife Mary McCrea Wallace in or around 1830. Mary was born in Ireland around 1801. Not sure where John was born or what year he was born. They were married in 1829. Thanks!
sherri vermette sherri vermette has a question!
October 16 @ 4:33pm
Does anyone have information on Allen Wallace of McDowell/Burke County NC born around 1822? I am not sure where he was born. His son James Bulow Wallace was my 2nd great grandfather and I cannot find any information beyond that about Allen. Thank you
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sherri vermette
November 5 @ 10:04pm
Thank you so very much Donald!
Donald K Wallace
November 6 @ 11:38am
Every bit of evidence accumulated through family history and Family Finder suggests the complex of families identified above migrated to Colonial America from the plantations of Ireland. However, the most commonly identified parents of Matthew Wallis/Wallace and his sister, Elizabeth, were born in Scotland to a John Wallace and Margaret Thomson after/about 1630. This information, which I have held without endorsement since 1997, is trademarked by the United Kingdom and the Church of Scotland. Circumstantial evidence suggests Matthew and Elizabeth may have entered through the Norfolk, Virginia, area and migrated to the Manokin area of Somerset County after the boundary between Maryland and Virginia was established on the Eastern Shore. If accurate, the Alexander, Polk, McKnitt and Brevard families joined the Wallaces in the Manokin area of Somerset County from the plantations of Ireland a bit later. The Fleming family may have immigrated, like the Wallaces, from early Virginia. The Wallace and Alexander families were of the organizers of Somerset County and, with the Polks, were sometimes referred to as the "kings of Manokin" (Torrence, OLD SOMERSET), freely available on Ancestry. A McWhorter family immigrated a bit later, adding a Sharpe family, migrated to the Carolinas soon after 1750.
Kandy Smith
November 9 @ 3:15pm
Thank you so much!! I appreciate all you do!!
sherri vermette
January 27 @ 5:57am
Donald I just wanted to thank you again for all of that information. I have just recently been able to begin researching through all of that and it was a huge help! I would've never gotten to all that by myself. I have been able to link up a lot with that, thank you.