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Wallace - WALLIS

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Bruce Wallace Bruce Wallace has a question!
January 14 @ 9:50am
Hello, My Dad's DNA has been on FTDNA and this project for a few years now. He just finished the Big Y after going through several upgrades. Not really sure what to do with the results since the Big Y returned with no matches. Our oldest known male ancestor is JOHN Wallace, b. 1719, Grandtully, Perthshire, Scotland with parents of Robert Wallace and Christian McGregor. JOHN was the Head Gardener at Murthly Castle and I believe both Murthly and Grandtully were owned by the same family. He was succeeded as gardener in turn, by 3 of his sons. It is said that JOHN'S father and grandfather were Head Gardeners for the same family. JOHN's Grandson immigrated with his family to Westchester, NY in 1848. I am hoping to make some connections. Thank you so much for helping.
Bruce Wallace
February 26 @ 6:12pm
My Dad's BigY700 results are in. Not sure what they are telling us. Still no matches and his group is now R-BY11894. Can anyone help me with what that might mean?
Donald K Wallace
March 2 @ 9:42am
Thank you for your inquiry. In the total context of your data, the Big Y and your YDNA results have done for you what they can do. To gain from them, look in relationship to the data available from your family history and Family Finder test results. You have pretty complete testing. In short your data suggests you want to look for relationships in Scotland who descend from kin going back to before your family migrated to the U.S. in the mid 1800s. Your BigY700 tells us of your line back in Scotland. That you have no matches indicates no deep kin have tested and, likely, your terminal SNP is relatively rare. This is supported by review of your Family Finder matches. One of your Family Finder matches takes you to a living Scot named Wallace living in Stirling, Scotland today (as a cousin, I've had my picture taken with him). That Scot Wallace of Stirling matches into a complex of Wallaces living in Maryland in the 1600s (they are my Wallaces and his matches to them are numerous). Another of your matches is to another match of mine. That match is of Wallaces who are relatively recent immigrants from Scotland. All of this suggests that you look for Wallace connections currently of Scotland rather than the U.S. This is supported by other evidence. In the entire database, you have some 5 Family Finder Wallace matches of whom 3 are in the project. They are relative close matches at 2nd > 5th cousin levels. By contrast, you have 14 Stewart matches at 3rd > 5th cousin levels. This suggests that you may want to look over your Stewart relationships. Again, since you don't recognize them, they are likely of an earlier Scot origin. So, I suggest you look for Stewart matches. As you find them, you will likely be looking at common ancestors of Scotland. Also, I see two YDNA Bruce Wallaces in the project. They line up as a father/son relationship. If so, using those two together will help you group Family Finder matches by the side of the family on which you can find them. Given that you are looking rather deep, you may want to look at the family tree you have published and add to it wherever you can do that reliably.
Bruce Wallace
April 11 @ 1:27pm
Thank you Donald! This is very interesting. We actually have found more ancestors in Scotland than we can find in the U.S. Interestingly, our Wallace ancestors were landscape gardeners for the Stewarts in Perthshire for many generations. We know of only our one family that came to America but there were suggestions of Maryland relatives at one point but nothing to follow up with. Stacey Wallace Rehbein & Bruce R. Wallace
Donald Wallace
June 13 @ 12:05pm
You mention your Wallace line went to New York. My father’s Wallace line is from New York, and we are having trouble finding matches too. I am coming across quite few Wallace/Wallis lines in New York in my research, but not many doing the testing seem to have Wallace ancestors from New York. Our oldest is Nathaniel Wallace born 1749/50, he fought in Albany’s militia in the American Revolution and settled in the Ballstown and Saratoga area for 30 years, then moved up to Pulteney, Stueben County NY for the rest of his life. We don’t have any information on his parents or where he came from.
Stephen Wallace Stephen Wallace has a question!
June 3 @ 4:15am
Good morning, I really need to make myself smarter on this subject, but wondering if someone might give me the easy answer to a question I have: Am I actually related in some form or another to everyone listed within my assigned group (R1b1a1a2a1a2: P312 > SRY2627)? My kit number is: 214936. I've just ordered the Big Y-700 test. I hope this will clear things up for me, but I somehow feel it will only confuse me more! :) Thanks!
Donald K Wallace
June 4 @ 3:31am
Your projected SNP is currently a P312. Thus, you are correctly classified into the P312 > SRY2627 SNP. However, you are negative for the SRY2627 SNP, a SNP identified by a SNP test in 2009. Given that dated SNP test, the Big Y-700 will establish your terminal SNP correctly and definitively. There shall be no basis for confusion as to your terminal SNP when your Big Y 700 results are returned.
Stephen Wallace
June 4 @ 3:04pm
Thank you for your comment, Donald. Much appreciated!
William Wallace William Wallace has a question!
June 2 @ 1:20pm
I was asked by my niece if we are related to William Alexander Anderson "Big Foot" Wallace. The results page has changed and I am unable to navigate through to make comparisons and find matches, if they exist. I don't think we are a match,and I have told her that, but any suggestions regarding comparisons and how to obtain them would be appreciated.
Scott Wallace
June 2 @ 3:30pm
This doesn't exactly answer your question, but Bigfoot did not marry and I haven't seen that he had any children. He was the son of Andrew and Jane Ann (Blair) Wallace, So you could be related to one of their other sons.
Stephen Wallace Stephen Wallace has a question!
May 27 @ 4:10am
Hello everyone. I currently have the Y-67 test, which I completed a number of years ago. I am now thinking of upgrading to either the Y-111 or Big Y-700 test. Any recommendations? Thanks! Steve
Bill Wheeler
May 27 @ 4:20pm
BigY-700, it includes 700 STRs (y111+ amost 600 more) plus it includes all the SNPs you can get!
Stephen Wallace
May 28 @ 11:30am
Thanks, Bill!
Bill Wheeler
May 28 @ 11:42am
urw!
Jimmy  Wallace Jimmy Wallace has a question!
April 17 @ 4:55pm
Don, My name is Jim Wallace and I live in Dallas. I think I am an R-U198. (van't remember). I am doing a deep dive on my Edwards line (maternal) and came across the Crowley family name. It is familar to me because Benjamin Crowley was a settler in NE Arkansas in 1821. There is a Ridge Line running from Southern Illinois down to NEArk which is named Crowley's Ridge, as well as State Park with the same name. Both are in Paragould, ARK, my home town. I found my Edwards ancestor selling land to a Benjamin Crowley in Pittsylvania County, VA on 26 Feb 1768. My ancestor, Thomas Edwards, died in 1751. His widow married second a Jeffrey Crowley about 1758. On Ancestry this Jeffrey Crowley is described as an R-U198. Is this the same R-U 198 I find on my Wallace (paternal) line? The Crowley family settled in NE Arkansas in 1821, coming from Kentucky, previously Georgia, previously Virginia. My Edwards line came to NE Arkansas in 1771 from Georgia, previously Virginia.,previously England/Wales arriving 1648. Ancestry says Jeffrey Crowley was born in Kinwarton, Warwickshire, England. My Edwards line is from the same general area in England./Wales. Is the r-U198 some type of connecting mechanism? Hope you can explain it to me. Thanks. Jim Wallace.
Donald K Wallace
April 18 @ 5:49pm
Bill sets forth a R-U198 block. Try your Family Finder to get after your Crowley line. Do this: filter for your Edwards so you get into your Edwards line. Find one named Wallace. Check him for his Wallace matches. He has 2 interesting ones, one named Hart, the other named Hazelbaker. Both have a very early and different Wallace lines coming out of England. Check them for Crowley matches. They both match to the same, specific Crowley. I wonder if this is your Crowley. Genealogical follow up is yours. Incidentally, among your matches is a Grierson who has matches to the same Wallaces to whom you generally match but back in Scotland. The difference is that Grierson told me a year or so ago that his Wallace line is of England, not Scotland. While you, generally, trace back to a Wallace line immigrating in the 1600s, possibly your Wallace line extends to a deeper line of Scotland who match downward into the same Wallaces of the 1600s of the Eastern Shore of Maryland but who immigrated via England.
Donald K Wallace
April 18 @ 5:53pm
We are a stream of DNA. It could well be that you have an R-U198 YDNA. That does not eliminate the possibility of other Wallaces embedded in your stream of DNA, a maternal line of Wallaces at that, the same to whom you overwhelmingly match through your maternal lines.
James Cogswell
May 23 @ 12:37pm
Jimmy Wallace. Please contact me at ( blackcrow70084@yahoo.com). I have the Edwards line from GA, may be able to assist U. Jim Cogswell
Jeffery Killitz Jeffery Killitz has a question!
April 10 @ 1:45pm
Two question. 1. My kit number is 878918. I did the y37 test. I come up with no matches. The test results say I am in the E-M35 haplogroup. But this group and subgroups are only indicated as Downstream (blue) and none are indicated as tested positive (green). Why do i have no matches? 2. Now that I've joined this project how do I use the information presented or provide information?
Donald K Wallace
May 7 @ 12:34am
I share your concern that you have no matches. I suggest you call Family Tree DNA tomorrow at 713.868.1438 and ask them to review your data. I suspect you will have matches after that review. I suspect that because I am the guy you found over on Ancestry and offered our comparative trees. We both come down from a David Wallace that married a Barbara Fleming. The difference is that you come down in a maternal line from son Solomon whereas I come down in a paternal line from son Matthew. Thus, the difference in our male haplogroups. It turns out that there is a whole line of Wallaces coming down from in your YDNA E-M35 line including a number of E-M35. Thus, you may be expected to have some E-M35 matches in the Wallace DNA Project. Better, while you are talking to FTDNA, arrange to have your Ancestry data integrated into the FTDNA database and the Wallace DNA Project. Expect some matches in both your YDNA and Family Finder (as transferred from Ancestry). It will cost you $19 and give you the best of both Ancestry and FTDNA. Apologies for not seeing your note sooner.
Paul Wallace Paul Wallace
April 25 @ 3:01pm
I have to say, I definitely don't understand all the "markers" I've had people reach out to me, but we can find no connections. The kit # is 191447. Can anyone help me figure out these connections?
Donald K Wallace
April 27 @ 2:40am
My bet is that you are looking at YDNA markers. We guys tend to start there but, all too often, as in your case, YDNA testing fails us. YDNA, for you, provides no Wallace matches in the entire Family Tree database. To your credit, you have, also, completed Family Finder (autosomal) testing. There, you have lots of matches, lots of connections. I checked your project matches and see that you match to my deceased aunt, a Kiblinger. I know what that means. You probably have some Pennsylvania Dutch kin of early Pennsylvania. Looking for obvious kin of early Pennsylvania, I see a Shirk. Checking that tree, that person traces their line to early 1700s Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. Then, I see a Rakovan (a 2 > 4 cousin to you) I happen to know as having Tatman/Bryan (as of the wife of Daniel Boone) ancestry out of the Carolinas and, earlier, Pennsylvania (a Tatman married into my Wallace family in Ohio soon after 1800). I note that Shirk also matches to Rakovan. But, you are in the Wallace DNA Project. How about your Ogle match. That match ties to a Wallace line out of Tennessee (See Worth Ray's 1950s TENNESSEE COUSINS) that is easily traced back through North Carolina to Maryland in the 1600s. Your Wallaces don't stop there. I see a Kelly whose Wallace ancestor is out of the same Maryland Wallaces, a Revolutionary War ranger who is buried in a cemetery a few miles from where I sit in the middle of Ohio. That family has been here since the early 1800s when it married into my own Wallace line. You may want to check that line of Wallaces out. Then, there is another project match to a Wallace line that lived on Deer Creek in Harford County, MD. This Wallace line lived on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake as opposed to the Wallaces of Ogle who lived (still live) on the Eastern Shore of the Chesapeake. Checking DNA matches, I find a hint of a relationship of both families to you. This note may redirect you to use of Family Finder as a way to find matches relevant to your family history. Of course, the more family history you know, the more useful matches you are likely to find. Equally, and possibly more importantly, DNA testing is an excellent tool for use in developing your family history. As in your case, Family Finder testing may be more useful than the YDNA on which we guys all too often unsucessfully try first.
Kathleen Wallace Kathleen Wallace
January 3 @ 11:43am
I'm looking for Irish Wallaces who are descended from or related to Patrick (Staker) Wallace, my four times great grandfather. Staker was a local hero in the Kilfinane area in Ireland. His story can be found on the internet. My great grandfather, also named Patrick Wallace, was born in Bulgaden, Ireland which is in the southeastern corner of County Limerick, Ireland. He came to Kane Co., Illinois with his parents probably between 1845 and 1850. I know that his father bought land from the federal government in 1850. My brother's paternal haplogroup is R-FGC12990 which is considered Irish Type III. More extensive testing has not been done.
2 Comments
Gloria Wallace
January 7 @ 4:38pm
Hi Kathleen, I looked a lot at Staker Wallace and descending families while searching for my own Wallaces. I found that I did not descend from him. His story is certainly an interesting one. You may have already seen it but as I recall, there was a very well documented tree on Family Search which explored descending lines.
Donald K Wallace
January 7 @ 6:08pm
Thank you, Gloria, I did not pick up on Patrick (Staker) Wallace as Staker Wallace. Maybe you and Kathleen can fill us in on Staker Wallace of Ireland
Mark Griffith
January 18 @ 9:30am
Kathleen, Donald had told me the same of my DNA. Perhaps are related then? Mine would be paternal though. Any Edna Wallace in your tree?
Kathleen Wallace
April 25 @ 10:40pm
Mark, sorry that I did not respond earlier. I am unaware of any Edna Wallace in my tree but I know nothing of Staker's siblings although I am sure that he them.
Jimmy  Wallace Jimmy Wallace has a question!
April 24 @ 4:13pm
Thanks Don. Jim Wallace
Cecilia Rucker Cecilia Rucker
January 24 @ 10:48pm
Hey everyone. I am knew to these projects (well I joined in August). I am confused as to how it works or how I can see who I match to within the group. But I have Wallace’s on my tree. I descend from Mudge Caleb Wallace last from Kentucky. There is a book “Life and Times of Judge Caleb Wallace” that might be very helpful in your searches. It was to me. It filled in some no,es. It gives some Wallace history as well as family lineage. I apologize if this is old information to everyone.
Cecilia Rucker
January 24 @ 10:51pm
That should be “Judge” Caleb Wallace. The Wallace’s that married into my family came from Kentucky to South Carolina.
Donald K Wallace
January 30 @ 4:32am
The book to which you refer was written long before DNA testing came along. Judge Caleb Wallace is generally identified as a descendant of a Peter Wallace who married Elizabeth Woods. Elizabeth and her children immigrated to Cecil County, MD about 1724. Many of your matches are consistent with descent in this line. If you follow up with your matches, you will see that DNA testing associates you with others who may reasonably claim descent from the Wallace family you identify as yours. These same test results will lead you to a Wallace lineage that can be traced by family history and DNA to the earliest genealogical times of Scotland. You are at the beginning of this journey. Have fun.
Jimmy Wallace
April 17 @ 4:39pm
Don, My name is Jim Wallace. I live in Dallas. I believe I am a R-U198 (frankly. I can't remember). I am doing a deep dive on my Edwards family line and got into the Crowley family--both families ended up in NE Arkansas, but about 50 years apart in time. I found a Jeffrey Crowley on Ancestry identified as R-U198. According to Ancestry, Jefffrey was born in Warwickshire, England. My Edwards line is from the same general area. They lived close to each other in Virginia in yers up to 1751 when my ancestor Thomas Edwards died. Later his widow,Martha. married Jeffrey Crowley in Halifax County, VA (2nd marriage). This is a maternal line. The R-U198 has me confused. Is this R-U198 in my Wallace line the same? Thanks. Jim