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Valko yDNA study has 22 members and additional inquiries from potential participants. Any and all interested parties may request the free email newsletter sent on an irregular schedule. Please continue to submit family and ancestor data. Doing so helps determine who belongs to whom. Questions, comments or suggestions are also encouraged. Project started 01March2004. Results are posted for 12 testees as of 26 September 2005. 12 yDNA and 3 mtDNA results. To date more than 1,500 recruitment postcards have been mailed to announce the project. More than 600 cards were mailed to Europe and Australia, mostly Slovakia and Hungary. Early responses expressing interest are mainly questions about the test and questions about specific families. I will continue to follow up with those expressing interest and to 'targeted possible family members in the USA and Europe. FIRST RESULTS/summer 2004 - for first four group members are a surprise; NONE are related, i.e.- no common ancestors within the last 5,000 years. SECOND RESULTS/ summer 2004 - two testees already connected via a 'good' paper trail are proven related by yDNA; i.e. 12/12 matches. Later tests results are 37/37. Common ancestor was born 1764. Additionally, a fifth and matching marker at 464e is found. Only about 2% of the population has any marker at 464e. THIRD results, early August 2004, two testees match 11/12 and 22/25 In comparing 25 markers, the probability of a shared a common ancestor within the last... 100 years is 1.93% 200 years is 12.58% 300 years is 30.80% 400 years is 50.49% 500 years is 67.28% 600 years is 79.67% FOURTH/ fall 2004 - results and a big surprise- first VALKO/Hungary tests as predictive Haplogroup I. Haplogroup I is possible 'Viking' Nordic origin. Most Slavs from Slovakia and Hungary would be expected from east Eurasia, Haplogroup R1a. FIFTH/ytd - results are for three mtDNA tests. One each of T2, J* and H. SIXTH/summer 2005 - result is a surprise and unexpected match. #29041 and # 13191 match as follows… 12/12, 24/25 and 35/37. #29041 has no marker at 464e. Substantial pedigree charts fail to connect the two. One first ancestor is born early 1700s in Slovakia. The other first ancestor is born 1750s in Hungary. Additional genealogy research has been order to try to find a common ancestor. SEVENTH/ September 2005 - results posted from a VALKO now living in Germany whose first known ancestors is born 1850s near Uzgorod, Ukraine. No matches within VALKO group. EIGHTH/ August 2006 - results for two new members posted. No matches within VALKO group. NINTH/ September 2006 - finally, all 67 markers posted for the three related VALKO members. Common ancestor is known for two of these three. The third member's common ancestor is still unknown. The new test results confirm that the time to most recent common ancestor (TMRCA) is within the same time frame predicted by the the 37 marker test results. TENTH February 2007 - Newest VALKO (claims Slovak ancestors) member test is E3b1a, not European origin. ELEVEN May 2007 - Newest VALKO (claims Slovak ancestors) member test is E3b1c1, not European origin. TWELVE 07December2007 DYF399X tested on 4 R1a1 group members... DYF399X new test results are similar, but not identical in your group. It seems like all of your group belong to a cluster that has a never before reported duplication in the P1/P2 region. 4 alleles at DYF399 have only been seen in haplogroup R1a so far. Our laboratory in Houston has reviewed your DYS464 results in an independent analysis and we found that your group has the following alleles: kit # - DYF399X - DYS464X 13191 - 23c-24c-24t-24.1t - 12g-12g-13g-15g-15g-16g 19712 - 23c-24c-24t-24.1t - 12g-12g-13g-15g-15g-16g 29041 - 23c-23t-24c-24.1t - 12g-12g-13g-15g-15g-16g 94956 - 23c-23t-24c-24.1t - 12g-12g-13g-15g-15g-16g So in fact I think that your DYS464 results are identical. Note that it is very difficult to estimate the right stoichiometric ratio without knowing the DYF399X result and we are sorry if this may have confused you when doing the comparison in your group. I hope this helps, Thomas Krahn The best studies have the most members and thus the most data for comparison. We need more test volunteers. Please inquire. Females should request a brother or male cousin with VALKO/WALKO surname be tested. 
Hit Counter the information. DYS 19 is also known as DYS 394. It is obvious from our observation of 1000's of samples that some markers change or mutate at a faster rate than others. While that actual 'faster rate' has not yet been definitively calculated, not all markers should be treated the same for evaluation purposes. The markers in red have shown a faster mutation rate then the average, and therefore these markers are very helpful at splitting lineages into sub sets, or branches, within your family tree. Explained another way, if you match exactly on all of the markers except for one or a few of the markers we have determined mutate more quickly, then despite the mutation this mismatch only slightly decreases the probability of two people in your surname group who match 11/12 or even 23/25 of not sharing a recent common ancestor. Unique Y-DNA12 marker strings: 18 Result Strings 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29# of results = 4 13 2515 1011 1512 1211 1311 29# of results = 1 13 2516 1010 1412 1210 1311 30# of results = 1 13 2516 1011 1412 1210 1311 30# of results = 1 13 2517 1010 1412 1210 1311 30# of results = 1 13 2517 1010 1412 1210 1411 31# of results = 1 13 2517 1010 1512 1210 1311 30# of results = 1 13 2518 1110 1312 1210 1411 31# of results = 1 13 2617 1011 1412 1210 1311 30# of results = 1 14 2315 1111 1411 1212 1314 29# of results = 1 15 2415 1015 1511 1311 1312 30# of results = 1 12 2414 1011 1412 1212 1413 31# of results = 1 13 2314 1111 1412 1212 1313 28# of results = 1 13 2314 1111 1412 1213 13 13 28# of results = 1 13 2413 1015 1811 1212 1311 30# of results = 1 13 2415 1111 1412 1210 1311 30# of results = 1 13 2513 1016 1611 1212 1311 31# of results = 1 13 2514 1011 1412 1212 1314 30# of results = 1 Unique Y-DNA25 marker strings: 13 Result Strings 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 11 24 14 20 32 12 12 13 15 15 16 0# of results = 4 13 25 15 10 11 15 12 12 11 13 11 29 15 9 10 11 11 2414 20 31 12 15 15 16 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 25 16 10 10 14 12 12 10 13 11 30 17 9 9 11 11 2314 20 31 12 15 15 16 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 25 17 10 10 14 12 12 10 13 11 30 17 9 10 11 11 2314 20 31 12 15 16 17 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 25 18 11 10 13 12 12 10 14 11 31 17 9 10 11 11 2414 20 33 12 15 16 16 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 26 17 10 11 14 12 12 10 13 11 30 18 9 10 11 11 2314 20 33 12 14 16 16 0 0 0# of results = 1 14 23 15 11 11 14 11 12 12 13 14 29 17 9 9 11 12 2514 19 29 13 13 15 15 0 0 0# of results = 1 12 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 31 15 8 10 11 11 2515 19 31 14 15 16 17 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 28 17 9 10 11 11 2615 19 30 14 15 15 18 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 24 13 10 15 18 11 12 12 13 11 30 17 9 9 11 11 2514 20 33 14 14 16 17 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 24 15 11 11 14 12 12 10 13 11 30 15 9 10 11 11 2414 20 33 12 12 14 15 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 25 13 10 16 16 11 12 12 13 11 31 18 9 9 11 11 2614 20 33 15 15 16 16 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 25 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 14 30 17 9 10 11 11 2615 20 31 15 15 16 16 0 0 0# of results = 1 Unique Y-DNA37 marker strings: 7 Result Strings # of below = 4 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 11 24 14 20 32 12 12 13 15 15 16 0 11 11 19 23 16 16 17 14 34 39 14 11 all below = 1 result 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 1211 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 11 24 14 20 32 12 12 13 15 15 16 0 11 11 19 23 16 16 18 14 34 39 14 11 13 25 15 10 11 15 12 1211 13 11 29 15 9 10 11 11 24 14 20 31 12 15 15 16 0 0 0 11 12 19 23 18 15 17 17 35 38 14 11 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 1212 13 13 28 17 9 10 11 11 26 1519 30 14 15 15 18 0 0 0 11 11 19 23 16 15 17 19 36 37 11 11 13 24 13 10 15 18 11 1212 13 11 30 17 9 9 11 11 25 14 20 33 14 14 1617 0 0 0 9 10 19 20 17 12 17 21 30 34 11 10 13 25 13 10 16 16 11 1212 13 11 31 18 9 9 11 11 26 14 20 33 15 15 16 16 0 0 0 10 10 18 22 15 13 17 19 31 32 13 10 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 1211 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 11 24 14 20 32 12 12 13 15 15 16 0 11 11 19 23 15 16 1714 34 39 14 11 03 July 2006 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dgarvey/DNA/hg/YCC_R1a1.html Y Haplogroup R1a1 ________________________________________ Semino et al thought the the forefather of all R1a1s was probably born in the Ukraine during the Last Glacial Maximum about 15,000 years ago. Spencer Wells has put forward the theory that the subsequent spread of haplogroup R1a1 across Eurasia may have been connected to the domestication of the horse about 5000 years ago ( Kurgan culture). The range of the distribution of R1a1 across Eurasia can be seen as the light blue colored group in the map on the third page of Wells' Eurasian Heartland paper. If Wells' theory is correct, the R1a1 haplogroup may have ridden on horseback from one end of Eurasia to the other. So the association of this haplogroup with the Vikings is, in truth, little more than a minor footnote in the history of the R1a1 group. There may be two regional patterns associated with the STRs seen among the R1a1s: Passarino et al saw DYS19=15 and YCAIIa,b=19,21 as being specific to the R1a1s in Western Europe, while Eastern European R1a1s typically had DYS19=16 and YCAIIa,b=19,23. This latter pattern is also seen in some Western Europe R1a1s - but the earlier pattern is almost never seen in Eastern European R1a1s. Ploski et al saw a pattern in the STRs of the R1a1s that seemed to be specific to the region around Poland. Another recent paper claims that this haplotype is fifteen times more common in Poland than in the rest of Europe. The pattern is common enough in that area that two versions of it appear among the 30 most common haplotypes in the European YSTR.org database. Those two haplotypes can be seen here. More information is available here. The graphs below show a comparison between the R1a1 results from Turkey with those seen by Helagason for HG3s in Iceland. As can be seen, the two sets of results have virtually identical allele frequency graphs - except for DYS19. Qamar's study of Y chromosomes in Pakistan found a modal haplotype for HG3 that differed by only a single step at DYS389ii from that seen for R1a1 in Turkey. The distribution of R1a1 in Europe can be seen as the group colored in purple on the map on the second page of Semino's paper on European Y chromosomes. There are presently no R1a1 sub-groups worth SNP testing. R1a1c (M87) has only been seen in Central Asia/Siberia, and R1a1a (M56) and R1a1b (M157) have only been seen a single time each (in India/Pakistan and Central Asia/Siberia).
Hit Counter the information. DYS 19 is also known as DYS 394. It is obvious from our observation of 1000's of samples that some markers change or mutate at a faster rate than others. While that actual 'faster rate' has not yet been definitively calculated, not all markers should be treated the same for evaluation purposes. The markers in red have shown a faster mutation rate then the average, and therefore these markers are very helpful at splitting lineages into sub sets, or branches, within your family tree. Explained another way, if you match exactly on all of the markers except for one or a few of the markers we have determined mutate more quickly, then despite the mutation this mismatch only slightly decreases the probability of two people in your surname group who match 11/12 or even 23/25 of not sharing a recent common ancestor. Unique Y-DNA12 marker strings: 18 Result Strings 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29# of results = 4 13 2515 1011 1512 1211 1311 29# of results = 1 13 2516 1010 1412 1210 1311 30# of results = 1 13 2516 1011 1412 1210 1311 30# of results = 1 13 2517 1010 1412 1210 1311 30# of results = 1 13 2517 1010 1412 1210 1411 31# of results = 1 13 2517 1010 1512 1210 1311 30# of results = 1 13 2518 1110 1312 1210 1411 31# of results = 1 13 2617 1011 1412 1210 1311 30# of results = 1 14 2315 1111 1411 1212 1314 29# of results = 1 15 2415 1015 1511 1311 1312 30# of results = 1 12 2414 1011 1412 1212 1413 31# of results = 1 13 2314 1111 1412 1212 1313 28# of results = 1 13 2314 1111 1412 1213 13 13 28# of results = 1 13 2413 1015 1811 1212 1311 30# of results = 1 13 2415 1111 1412 1210 1311 30# of results = 1 13 2513 1016 1611 1212 1311 31# of results = 1 13 2514 1011 1412 1212 1314 30# of results = 1 Unique Y-DNA25 marker strings: 13 Result Strings 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 11 24 14 20 32 12 12 13 15 15 16 0# of results = 4 13 25 15 10 11 15 12 12 11 13 11 29 15 9 10 11 11 2414 20 31 12 15 15 16 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 25 16 10 10 14 12 12 10 13 11 30 17 9 9 11 11 2314 20 31 12 15 15 16 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 25 17 10 10 14 12 12 10 13 11 30 17 9 10 11 11 2314 20 31 12 15 16 17 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 25 18 11 10 13 12 12 10 14 11 31 17 9 10 11 11 2414 20 33 12 15 16 16 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 26 17 10 11 14 12 12 10 13 11 30 18 9 10 11 11 2314 20 33 12 14 16 16 0 0 0# of results = 1 14 23 15 11 11 14 11 12 12 13 14 29 17 9 9 11 12 2514 19 29 13 13 15 15 0 0 0# of results = 1 12 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 31 15 8 10 11 11 2515 19 31 14 15 16 17 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 28 17 9 10 11 11 2615 19 30 14 15 15 18 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 24 13 10 15 18 11 12 12 13 11 30 17 9 9 11 11 2514 20 33 14 14 16 17 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 24 15 11 11 14 12 12 10 13 11 30 15 9 10 11 11 2414 20 33 12 12 14 15 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 25 13 10 16 16 11 12 12 13 11 31 18 9 9 11 11 2614 20 33 15 15 16 16 0 0 0# of results = 1 13 25 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 14 30 17 9 10 11 11 2615 20 31 15 15 16 16 0 0 0# of results = 1 Unique Y-DNA37 marker strings: 7 Result Strings # of below = 4 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 11 24 14 20 32 12 12 13 15 15 16 0 11 11 19 23 16 16 17 14 34 39 14 11 all below = 1 result 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 1211 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 11 24 14 20 32 12 12 13 15 15 16 0 11 11 19 23 16 16 18 14 34 39 14 11 13 25 15 10 11 15 12 1211 13 11 29 15 9 10 11 11 24 14 20 31 12 15 15 16 0 0 0 11 12 19 23 18 15 17 17 35 38 14 11 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 1212 13 13 28 17 9 10 11 11 26 1519 30 14 15 15 18 0 0 0 11 11 19 23 16 15 17 19 36 37 11 11 13 24 13 10 15 18 11 1212 13 11 30 17 9 9 11 11 25 14 20 33 14 14 1617 0 0 0 9 10 19 20 17 12 17 21 30 34 11 10 13 25 13 10 16 16 11 1212 13 11 31 18 9 9 11 11 26 14 20 33 15 15 16 16 0 0 0 10 10 18 22 15 13 17 19 31 32 13 10 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 1211 13 11 29 16 9 10 11 11 24 14 20 32 12 12 13 15 15 16 0 11 11 19 23 15 16 1714 34 39 14 11 03 July 2006 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dgarvey/DNA/hg/YCC_R1a1.html Y Haplogroup R1a1 ________________________________________ Semino et al thought the the forefather of all R1a1s was probably born in the Ukraine during the Last Glacial Maximum about 15,000 years ago. Spencer Wells has put forward the theory that the subsequent spread of haplogroup R1a1 across Eurasia may have been connected to the domestication of the horse about 5000 years ago ( Kurgan culture). The range of the distribution of R1a1 across Eurasia can be seen as the light blue colored group in the map on the third page of Wells' Eurasian Heartland paper. If Wells' theory is correct, the R1a1 haplogroup may have ridden on horseback from one end of Eurasia to the other. So the association of this haplogroup with the Vikings is, in truth, little more than a minor footnote in the history of the R1a1 group. There may be two regional patterns associated with the STRs seen among the R1a1s: Passarino et al saw DYS19=15 and YCAIIa,b=19,21 as being specific to the R1a1s in Western Europe, while Eastern European R1a1s typically had DYS19=16 and YCAIIa,b=19,23. This latter pattern is also seen in some Western Europe R1a1s - but the earlier pattern is almost never seen in Eastern European R1a1s. Ploski et al saw a pattern in the STRs of the R1a1s that seemed to be specific to the region around Poland. Another recent paper claims that this haplotype is fifteen times more common in Poland than in the rest of Europe. The pattern is common enough in that area that two versions of it appear among the 30 most common haplotypes in the European YSTR.org database. Those two haplotypes can be seen here. More information is available here. The graphs below show a comparison between the R1a1 results from Turkey with those seen by Helagason for HG3s in Iceland. As can be seen, the two sets of results have virtually identical allele frequency graphs - except for DYS19. Qamar's study of Y chromosomes in Pakistan found a modal haplotype for HG3 that differed by only a single step at DYS389ii from that seen for R1a1 in Turkey. The distribution of R1a1 in Europe can be seen as the group colored in purple on the map on the second page of Semino's paper on European Y chromosomes. There are presently no R1a1 sub-groups worth SNP testing. R1a1c (M87) has only been seen in Central Asia/Siberia, and R1a1a (M56) and R1a1b (M157) have only been seen a single time each (in India/Pakistan and Central Asia/Siberia).