TROTT

Tratt, Treat, Trett, Trood, Trott
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Group A - Essex, England (Haplogroup I1)


#50,249: This project member was our initial Trott participant in the UK. He traces his line to Richard Trott, born around 1530 in Newport, near Saffron Walden, Essex. There have been Trotts in this part of Essex at least since 1327, when the Lay Subsidy lists Willelmo Trott of Manwedene (Manuden), which is only five miles from Newport. In the early 18th century, this member’s ancestor Michael Trott moved to Deal in Kent, and his descendants are still there today.


#51,601: This project member is the 4th cousin twice removed of #50,249. They exactly match on 37 markers, confirming the relationship that they had established by traditional genealogical methods.


There are also Trotts from Woodbridge, Essex. Extensive research has revealed no connection between this line and the one originating in Newport, but it would be helpful if a member of the Woodbridge family would do a DNA test to confirm whether or not there is a relationship.


#225,252: This project member traces his ancestry to James F. (for Fullerton?) Trott, who was born in 1802 in Woolwich, Lincoln County, Maine, and whose father was reputed to be a Trott. His mother was Jeanette or Jennet Fullerton, who was was born in Woolwich in 1776. The results appear to confirm that James F. Trott’s father was indeed a Trott, although whether this will help to identify him remains to be seen. There have been Trotts in New England since 1640.



Group B - London, England & Maryland, USA (England to Maryland in mid-1600s) (Haplogroup R1a1a)

#48,615: This project member was the project’s first American tester and believes based on traditional genealogical work that he is a descendant of Thomas Trott who lived in Anne Arundel County, Maryland in the mid-1600s.  There is a "Trott's Branch" about 30 miles south of Annapolis, Maryland where Thomas evidently lived. While Thomas appears to have been the earliest male ancestor of this R1a1a haplogroup in the US, there are numerous gaps in the traditional genealogical records between Thomas and persons living today.  DNA testing has filled in some of those gaps, but more gaps can be filled in if additional persons join the project.


As will be seen in discussions concerning other project members listed below, some Trotts remained in Maryland, including the ancestors of project members #50,297 and #213,424.  Other descendants moved to North Carolina in the late 1700s, including ancestors of project members #48,615, #48,700 and #113,521.  Still other descendants moved to Ohio in the early 1800s, including ancestors of project members #57,803 and #240,338.

 
With respect to those who moved to North Carolina, James Trott and Henry Trott are known to have moved to Rowan County, North Carolina by about 1790.  Three project members descended from Henry, but the project has yet to test persons who are known to be descendants of James. Descendants of Henry migrated further across the country and today live in numerous states.  One notable descendant of Henry was James Jenkins Trott who became a missionary to the Cherokee Nation in Georgia in the early 1800s.  A descendant of James Jenkins Trott is project member #113,521.


While DNA results of the eight project members in this haplogroup who live in the US match each other relatively closely (generally 35 or more markers out of 37), no one yet knows the specific location of their ancestors prior to Thomas coming to the America. Family tradition and circumstantial evidence suggest that they came from England, but conclusive genealogical proof is lacking, particularly considering that this haplogroup is more commonly associated with central Europe than with the British Isles.

 
Additional evidence of English origins was provided by the DNA results of project member #288,776 who lives in the UK.  While this project member matches his American cousins less closely than they match each other (no closer than 33 markers out of 37), the similarities are sufficient to infer that this group likely originated in England.  Since the project member in the UK can only trace his ancestors back to the early 1800s in England, which is about 150 years after the first Trott in this haplogroup arrived in Maryland, project members hope that more people in the UK will test and provide additional information.

#48,700: This project member was a very active Trott genealogist in Texas for many years before passing away in 2014.  Prior to DNA testing he believed that he and member #48,615 were cousins based on traditional genealogical research, and testing confirmed this relationship with a match on 67 of 67 markers. He felt that his oldest known ancestor, based on conclusive genealogical records, was Henry Trott who moved to Rowan County, North Carolina in about 1790 at about the same time that another Marylander, James Trott, moved to the same county. Henry and James were likely descendants the Thomas Trott in Anne Arundel County mentioned above, but this project member emphasized that the link is not proven and hoped that over time DNA testing plus additional genealogical sleuthing will provide definitive answers to questions concerning the relationship between Henry Trott, James Trott and the Thomas Trott. 

#113,521: This project member’s results confirm that he is another member of the Maryland to North Carolina group.  He descends from James Jenkins Trott, a descendant of Henry Trott, who was born in North Carolina and became a Methodist missionary to the Cherokee nation in Georgia.  James Jenkins was involved in a case decided by the United States Supreme Court in 1832 holding that that the state of Georgia had no jurisdiction over the reservation.  He married a Cherokee woman and their descendants were forced to go on the infamous "Trail of Tears" to Oklahoma.  Descendants in subsequent generations changed their last name and moved to the Dakotas, West Virginia and New Jersey.  Descendants are listed on various Indian rolls in Oklahoma.  This project member matches members #48,615 and #48,700 on 66 of 67 markers, and he matches member #223,795 on 65 of 67 markers.

#57,803 and #240,338: These two closely related project members belong to a family which migrated from Maryland to Ohio. They are descended from Samuel Trott who lived in Calvert County, Maryland. Samuel was the father of Francis, Richard and James Trott. Francis Trott was born around 1808 in Maryland and moved to Guernsey County, Ohio to establish a homestead. He had 10 children: Martha (aka Mariah) Ellen Trott Albin, Ophelia Anne Trott Dudley, James W., Samuel F., Michael Spaid, Margaret Mary Trott Archer, Thomas Henry, Catherine Maria Trott Dudley, John Wesley and Richard F. Francis and four children are listed up in the 1850 Guernsey County census. By 1880 his son, Samuel F. Trott, lived in Nobel County.  Later descendants lived in Muskingum County, Ohio. #240,338 matches project members #48,615 and #48,700 on 66 of 67 markers and project members #113,521 and #223,795 on 65 of 67 markers.

#50,297: This project member, a resident of Maryland, descends from Thomas “Henry” Trott, born around 1820 in Baltimore, Maryland. This member believes, based on traditional genealogical research, that his ancestors lived in Anne Arundel County, Maryland in the mid-1600s, but links in the chain are missing. Based on testing 37 markers, this member matches closely on 36 markers with the North Carolina subgroup (members #48615, #48,700, and #113,521) and on 35 markers with the Ohio subgroup (#240,338).  He somewhat surprisingly matches on 34 markers with the other project member whose ancestors remained in Maryland (#213,424).  This project member hopes that testing by additional Trott relatives will provide additional information to solve puzzles as to his genealogy.

#213,424: This project member does not have extensive genealogical records but relates his family’s oral tradition that his Trott ancestors originated in England, settled in the Chesapeake Bay area in the late 1600s and have remained in that area ever since.  They have lived along the Bay in Calvert and Anne Arundel Counties, Maryland for generations.  He traces his own line as far back as Sabret Trott who was born in 1806 and lived in Shady Side, Maryland.  Sabret was the father of Richard Trott who in turn was the father of four children named Richard Packard, James Henry, Thomas and Maddie.


In comparing this project member’s 37 marker DNA test with persons whose ancestors have left the Bay area, it is noted that he matches the North Carolina and Ohio subgroups on 35 markers and matches the other Maryland member on 34 markers.  Based on the numerical cutoffs in FTDNA’s methodology, he is not listed as a match with the one tester in this haplogroup from the UK, even they almost certainly descend from a common male ancestor centuries ago.  As more people test, differences in markers should be useful in sorting out the relationships and movements of men named Trott over the last several hundred years from the UK to Maryland and elsewhere. 

#223,795: This project member joined our project after testing 67 markers because all four of his matches are project members in this haplogroup.  While this project member’s last name is not Trott, it appears highly likely based on the closeness of the tests that he is genetically related to the other project members.  Despite discussions between this member and the project administrator to determine the nature of the relationship, they have not been able to formulate a theory as to the relationship.  Ancestors with this project member’s last name have lived in Kentucky for several generations, and he believes that they lived in Maryland several centuries ago. It is hoped that further DNA testing and traditional sleuthing can untangle this conundrum.

#288,766: This project member lives in the UK and traces his ancestry to William Trott who lived in the London area in the early 19th century. William married Sarah Wallis in 1817 at St Dunstan Stepney, Middlesex, when they both lived in Mile End Old Town. In the 1841 census they were living with their family in Southwark, Surrey.  William was listed as a bricklayer aged 55, so was born around 1781 to 1786, and was listed as not born in Surrey. Otherwise we have not yet found any evidence of where he was born, although it was presumably in England.


This project member matches the three members of the North Carolina subgroup on 33 of 37 markers. This is close enough to be considered a match by FTDNA, but FTDNA’s statistics estimate that there is a 56% chance that they shared a common male ancestor within 12 generations and a 79% within 16 generations.  This project member matches slightly less closely with the remaining five project members in this haplogroup and is not listed by FTDNA as matching those five members, even though those five members are listed as matching the North Carolina subgroup closely. Despite that fact, the project administrators feel that it is reasonable to conclude that this project member and all the American Trotts in this haplogroup likely descend from a common male ancestor who likely lived in the UK well over 350 years ago, prior to the period in the mid 1600s when Thomas Trott of this haplogroup emigrated to Maryland.


#406,479: This project member has joined because his father was adopted and he does not know his biological grandfather’s surname. There is evidence his grandfather was from East Longmeadow, Massachusetts. He matches member #213,424 on 35 out of 37 markers, and member #288,776 on 34 out of 37 markers. 


It is hoped that eventually additional persons will join the project from the UK and will be able to provide this haplogroup information as to where their ancestors lived approximately 350 years ago before coming to America.



Group C - Yorkshire, England (Haplogroup R1b2a1)

#107,575 and #164,945: These project members are both of Bermudian descent. The Bermuda Trott family is descended from Samuel Trott, who was born in London in 1646 and is believed to have migrated from the UK to Bermuda in 1669. He died in Bermuda in 1699 and today his descendants are to be found all over the world, including the UK, Canada, the USA, and Australia. Samuel Trott’s ancestry can be traced to John Trott, a draper who died in London in 1551. John Trott was born around 1507/8 and there is some evidence that his family originated in Yorkshire, but this has not yet been proved.

#129,007: This project member has no connections with Bermuda. His family migrated from the UK to New Zealand in 1901. His ancestry can be traced to Henry Trott, a master mariner, and his wife Elizabeth who baptised a son, Henry John, in 1806 in Kingston upon Hull (also known as Hull), in the East Riding of Yorkshire. Henry Trott may have originated in Scarborough, about 60 miles up the coast from Hull, in the North Riding of Yorkshire, but no firm evidence of this has so far emerged.

#259,992: This project member is from Yorkshire and can trace his ancestry to Henry Trott, a mariner, who married Frances Eglestone in 1781 in Scarborough. Henry was probably baptised in 1744 in Scarborough, the son of William and Jane Trott, but this has not been proved.

It is unlikely that paper records will be able to prove that #129,007 and #259,992 are related to #107,575 and #164,945 but the DNA results mean that John Trott (d 1551) almost certainly originated in Yorkshire, and that his ancestors were related to the ancestors of the other two some time before the mid 16th century. It also seems reasonable to use the results as proof that all of these lines originated in the Scarborough area.

In 2011, a Deep Clade Test was carried out on #164,945. These results apply to all four of the above. Family Tree DNA infers a haplogroup from the standard test and all three were originally given the haplogroup of R1b1a2. The Deep Clade Test showed that they belonged to the haplogroup R1b1a2a1a1a8, also known as R-L257. R-L257 refers to the Single Nucleotide Polymorphism (SNP) which characterises this haplogroup. This appears to be relatively rare, but was only discovered in early 2010, so it is possible that it will become more common as more people are tested for it. R1b1a2 is now known as R1b2a1, and R1b1a2a1a1a8 (or R-L257) is now known as R1b2a1aB1a2b1a1.



Group D - Devon, England (Haplogroup R1b2a1)

#300,191: This project member traces his ancestry to Henry Trott and his wife Eulalia, whose son John was born in Petrockstow, a few miles from Great Torrington, Devon in 1732. John married Mary Hammett in 1753. The family continued to live in this area, in Petrockstow, or the adjacent parishes of Meeth, Buckland Filleigh, and Sheepwash, until William Henry Burnett Trott (b 1854) moved to South Wales in the late 19th century.

#N22,826: This project member traces his ancestry to James Trott, born in 1788 at Seaton and Beer, Devon. James married Elizabeth (Betsy) Stroud in 1812 at Black Torrington, Devon. Their son John, born in 1813 at Black Torrington, migrated to Maine, USA in 1833, and then to Ontario, Canada. Seaton and Beer is in South Devon, almost fifty miles away from Petrockstow, which is on North Devon. #N22,826 differs from #300,191 on three markers.


There is a further result matching the two Devon members, to be found on the Y Search database, no 42FFF. He differs from #300,191 on four markers and from #N22,826 on four different markers. He traces his ancestry to John Trott, who married Thomasine Williams in 1692 at Ottery St Mary, and baptised three children in Uffculme between 1685 and 1697.



Group E - Tennessee, USA (Haplogroup R1b2a1)

#254,364: This project member's family lived in Bedford County, Tennessee in recent generations.  He traces his line back to his grandfather Raymond Trott, great-grandfather John Wesley Trott, and great-great-grandfather Michael Trott of Bedford County. They are believed to descend from George W Trott who was born 1803 in North Carolina prior to the family moving to Tennessee around the 1820s, but direct links are missing. 

#374,175: This project member also knows that he descends from Michael Trott of Tennessee, who was his great-grandfather. He and project member #254,364 are second cousins once removed.  Consistent with that relationship, they match on 36 out of 37 markers. This project member has done traditional genealogical research that leads him to believe that he may also be related to a Dr. Joe Trott who lived in Bedford County, Tennessee,  as well as to earlier Trott ancestors who lived in North Carolina in the early 1800s or earlier.  Those Trotts are believed to have lived in Onslow County on the coast and in Orange County in the central part of the state, but direct links are missing.  He hopes that by additional DNA testing and further traditional research more information will be forthcoming.


Group F - Maine, USA (Haplogroup R1b2a1)


#123771 and #288,070: These two project members are closely related, and can trace their ancestry to Josiah Trott, born in 1779 in Castine, Maine, USA, son of Samuel Trott. This family is said to be descended from Simon Trott, who lived at Cape Porpoise, Maine in the 17th century, but proof of this is lacking.


Group G - Somerset, England (Haplogroup R1b2a1)

#285,125: This project member is descended from Edward King Trott, who was was born in 1838 in Taunton, Somerset, a son of Henry Trott, who married Sarah Lane on 8 June 1835 in the adjacent parish of Wilton. Henry died in Taunton on 13 December 1847, aged 52, giving an approximate birth date of 1794 or 1795. Henry and Sarah named their other son, born in 1836 in Taunton, Mark King Trott, and it is possible that Henry was the son of Robert Trott and Sarah King, who married on 18 June 1787 at Bishops Hull, also adjacent to Taunton, but no baptism for Henry has yet been found to confirm this theory. Edward King Trott emigrated to New Zealand before 1861 and his descendants still live there.


Group H - Somerset, England (Haplogroup R1b2a1)

#286,367: This project member traces his ancestry to Isaac Trott who married Mary Trott on 13 July 1794 at Martock, Somerset. Their son Henry, who was born in 1804 at Martock, married Ann Munday in 1833 at nearby Somerton. The family continued to live in the same area until the member's grandfather, Francis George Trott, moved to Glamorgan, South Wales before 1896, and his son later moved to London.


Group I - Somerset, England (Haplogroup R1b2a1)

#206,444: This project member traces his ancestry to James Walden Trott who was born in 1811 at Lambrook, in the parish of Kingsbury Epsicopi, Somerset. He may have been the son of Robert Trott and Ann Walden, who were married in Kingsbury Episcopi on 28 May 1809, but so far no baptism has been found to prove this. James’s son, Robert Carter Trott, migrated to Canada, probably in the 1870s.


Group J - Germany (Haplogroup R1b2a1)

#252,976: This project member is of German descent. He traces his ancestry to Nicolaus Trott who married Susanna Simon in 1645 in Mellrichstadt, a town in Bavaria, about eighty miles east of Frankfurt. The family continued to live in the same town, until Nicolas's descendant Casper Trott, born in 1819 in Mellrichstadt, migrated to the US in 1840 with his brother Antonius, his sister Katharina and his brother-in-law Rudolph Salender. Casper settled firstly in Buffalo, New York, then in Wisconsin, and finally in Peoria, Illinois.


Group K - London, England (Haplogroup R1b2a1)

#48,454: This project member is from Mobile, Alabama and is decended from Joseph Trott and his wife Sarah, whose children included Richard Trott born in 1779, at Saint Leonard, Shoreditch, Middlesex. Richard married Mary Batcher and had three known children including Richard Trott christened in 1828, at Saint Nicholas, Deptford, Kent. The younger Richard Trott arrived in Mobile County, Alabama in 1860, with his wife Martha, nee Manson. Richard and Martha had four known children: Martha Mary Anne Trott born in 1858 in England, Richard William Lee Trott born in 1859 in England, Dominick/Dominique Jasper Trott born in 1861 in Alabama, and Philip F. Trott born in 1867 in Alabama.



Group L - Devon, England (Haplogroup R1b2a1)
#156908: This project member traces his ancestry to Philip Trott, born in 1809 at Uffculme, Devon. Philip's mother was Mary Trott, and his father's name, taken from his marriage certificate, was John MILL. Mary Trott was born in 1792 in Uffculme, a daughter of Robert Trott and his wife Sarah, and her ancestry can be traced back to John Trott, who married Thomasine Williams in 1692 at Ottery St Mary, and baptised three children in Uffculme between 1685 and 1697.


Group M - Somerset, England (Haplogroup E1b1b1)

#262445: This project member traces his ancestry to William Trott, born in 1730 in Elworthy, Somerset, a son of Francis Trott and his wife Mary. William married Mary Ammory in 1769 and the family continued to live in the Elworthy area until the 1850s, when the member's great great grandfather, John Trott, born in 1803, left Somerset and moved to Wallasey, Cheshire with his family. It is possible that Francis was baptised in 1694 at Crowcombe (only a few miles from Elworthy), a son of John and Joan Trott, but this has not yet been proved.




This page was last updated on June 2, 2015.