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Are you a member of the Robinson project?
Jeremy Robinson Jeremy Robinson
February 17 @ 1:40am
Would a SNP test to identify subgroup help determine if no matching surname is due to convergence?
Lisa Franklin
8 hours ago
See comments/suggestions on previous thread
Lisa Franklin
8 hours ago
Big Y 700 could prove helpful as your brother is R-M269 and that particular subclade group is VERY active and would mean you could submit your data to the Big Y tree which happens to be for that subclade and be placed on the tree and see what kits you fall in with on the tree.
Lisa Franklin
8 hours ago
As an example see the DF63 subclade of the tree on the website..the Franklin project that I have administered for a decade now depicts how this can be of great help. The Franklin project was the first to use SNP testing to identify a specific, non living ancestor. :) Someday Y DNA testing will be able to 'hand' a male a paternal family tree. :)
John High-Robinson John High-Robinson
April 4, 2016 @ 5:05pm
This is me (Johnny High) with my mother Dasha (Dana) Timoshenko High. I believe it to be a passport picture taken in either Oct or Nov 1948.
John High-Robinson
April 4, 2016 @ 5:09pm
I will be posting a few pics over time showing me aging through the years. I have noticed that most sons tend to resemble their father fairly closely so I will do this in hopes that maybe somewhere along the line someone will see them and maybe point out that I look a lot like "so & so". I know it sounds silly, but I'm reaching for any straw that might help me in finding out who my biological (Robinson) father/family is.
John High-Robinson
February 10 @ 1:31pm
FOLLOW-UP: Folks, my search came to an end in May 2018 (after 11 years) when I was contacted by an individual who had done the Ancestry DNA test as I had also done. After much discussion with him and his uncle and Ancestry it was determined that I was half brother to his uncle and late mother. I was provided with the name of my biological father. Unfortunately he had passed away in 1956. However I did get to meet my half brother and nephew as well as other nieces and nephews in early 2019. My "new Robinson family welcomed me with with open arms, and what a great bunch of folks they are.
Lisa Franklin
8 hours ago
How wonderful! Congrats John!
Jeremy Robinson Jeremy Robinson has a question!
February 16 @ 3:05am
Hi. I recently had my brother’s y-37 results. No Robinson surname in the match list except at 12 markers and that person has zero information provided. Any advice on what now? His Haplogroup is R-M269. I’ve looked at the y-str results but don’t know how to interpret them. Can I learn about about subclades from these? I can’t find any advice in the Learning Centre that takes me any further. A banner pops up suggesting upgrading to y-67. But I don’t want to do that that until I can understand what I’ve got so far, which appears to me to be nothing much. So I predicted the Haplogroup based on our paper research. It’s the most common for for Western Europe. What else should I be able to deduce from these results? Apologies if this is the wrong question in the wrong place. I’ve read everything I can find and am no wiser!
ED Robinson
February 17 @ 5:02pm
I took a second look and 5 of my 6 matches show up at Y37 so if you weren't ready to jump to the Y111 I can see Y37 of being great value.
Jeremy Robinson
February 18 @ 1:38am
Thanks Ed. he’s done y37 so I’d have to go to y67, but I take your point. As you say, the advice is mixed. I’ve just doubled checked my own autosomal results to see if there might be a break in the surname somewhere. It’s interesting, I don’t actually have many matches on the male line there at all.. only one in fact. And that is with Ancestry’s enormous database. All the close matches, up to 4th or so are through the female line. So I looks to me as though our branch of the surname might on on the wane. I hadn’t given that idea a thought until now. And there are only about 1000 Robinson surnames (and variants) in this database so the chances of a match are slim. I’ll get my brothers atDNA tested and see if that matches these unknown surnames.
Lisa Franklin
8 hours ago
Jane, Sorry for the late reply. I did get your email while I was on vacation. Looked at your brother's matches. My first suggestion is related to your direct Robinson lineage, as based on your localities, you simply may not have matches as they are not yet tested. Do you have a more robust family tree online somewhere else I might look at with you? My suggestion would be to go back on your tree to say John Robinson (1855-1899) and note did he have sons other than just James? If so, I would do forward lineage from that son to locate a living male Robinson descendant of said brother of James and ask them if they would test for you. I find offering to pay for the test myself is often helpful as well if you are able. This will either validate your Robinson Y DNA back to the common ancestor James Robinson or tell you if your line has an NPE (Non Paternal Event) somewhere prior to that.
Lisa Franklin
8 hours ago
As to upgrading to more markers, of your brother's 14 matches at Y37 only 5 have tested to a higher level. While it is possible to pick up a non match at 37 tested to a higher level, it is rare, and your closest GD (genetic distance) matches are not tested beyond 37 markers themselves. So my suggestion would be to focus on the above recommendation for now and at the next Y upgrade sale you might consider upgrading and let your closest matches know you are and ask them to also consider upgrading to assist you all. Hope this helps!
Jeremy Robinson Jeremy Robinson
January 31 @ 3:55am
H, I hope it's OK for to have joined this group? I am managing the Y-DNA test for my brother Jeremy Robinson. I am Jane Lucas (born Robinson.) We were born in south west Lancashire. I have traced my father's Robinson surname back to a burial in 1750. All bmds are in the sale small Parish. I have been unable to determine with certainty the birth place or parents of that 1750 burial. However, on the maternal side there I have documented the line back to c1530 where the surnames for that family are all patronymic. I have been working on that theory as well as trying to trace Robinson. For example we have John son of Robt. Robtson baptised 1618. Ellin Robertson bap. 1677 dau. Robert Johnson. There are other Robinsons in the same Parish.
Jeremy Robinson
January 31 @ 3:56am
Apologies for the typos.. whilst trying to edit I inadvertently managed to post.
ED Robinson
February 3 @ 11:13am
Not a lot of activity in the Robinson group but there are plenty of people managing third party YDNA kits. It is good you are able to do it.
Kevin Robinson Kevin Robinson
January 24 @ 4:04am
Kevin Robinson matches 2 persons at 111 markers; both surnamed Cash, both with Earliest Known Ancestor William Cash born about 1653 died about 1707 America ) QUESTIONs ??? 1) Is the surname Robinson more English in style, than Scots ? 2) Does surname Robinson imply a Son of Robin ? If so; Where is Robin ??? THEORY; please challenge our thinking,,, 3) is it possible that the Robinson family split from the Cash family about 1600. (more likely to us, than the Cash (Caigh ?) splitting from a Robinson line, based upon assumptions of Scots/Irish origin, & the more gutteral tones possible with the name Cash. 4) MIGHT there be a Robin Caish born late 1500's ??? Thanks, Kevin & sister Renee
D Isaacs
January 28 @ 12:35pm
Keving Robinson, Y37 shown up as clarke hull as well. which i took another test didnt see point in a little y snp so i took the y111 and it shown y67 being closer wheeler. however, im chasing all the leads again through clarke, wheeler hull etc. because i have recently discovered robinson my half brother. again may prove false that we are robinson family but from the unknown group it does seem to show im closely number matching the above and below numbers. i did have a big gap on a set of numbers in the wheeler group which couldnt confirm wheeler was my surname. and isaacs group didnt resemble anything for me.
D Isaacs
January 28 @ 12:37pm
my genetic distance of 7 told to me meant that it was such a huge jump because it could mean 500 years or even 5000 years or more. which in genetic terms was too much of a gap to say that it was closely related to the last 250 years maybe able to trace. but now it is difficult to trace over 500 years as not everything is documented for the proof
D Isaacs
January 28 @ 12:38pm
your distance of 10 may mean 100000 years or more
Lisa Franklin
January 29 @ 4:01pm
Kevin, Have you sought out validators for your Robinson line? My suggestion is to start with a 2d or 3d cousin, male Robinson and ask, or offer to pay for, a Y 37 test kit for them. That will tell you if your line is validated to the common ancestor you share. With no other Robinson matches that is always the next step..determining where the break occurs if there is one. hope this helps
D Isaacs D Isaacs has a question!
January 26 @ 3:54pm
Any news on when the dna results are going to get updated? seems a very slow progress in this particular group compared to other groups
Lisa Franklin
January 29 @ 3:59pm
I'm sorry, Not sure why you are asking this? Your matches are Wheelers. I suggest joining the Wheeler project where there will be kits you can be grouped with.
D Isaacs D Isaacs
January 22 @ 5:33am
Looks like i am still ungrouped. Do you know how or when ill be moved into a list?
Don Robinson Don Robinson
December 3 @ 11:41am
Just got my Big Y-700 results which are R-FGC14715. I would appreciate any observations that would help a novice. My kit # is B83706.
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Lisa Franklin
December 27 @ 6:48am
Don, you are part of the (R-M269) Group 10 in haplogroup R. You have several Robinson matches and it looks like at least one group member has multiple participants so I would start by contacting your matches. I always validate their trees myself and in the case of the fellow managing multiple kits, I would look to see what his testing has validated in his particular Robinson lineage. I would also ask the matches to consider doing Big Y upgrades as that will tell all of you in the group so much more about where you connect. And as you are M269, you can see examples of how Big Y can literally build a family tree for you by looking at the Big Y tree for this branch at I would also suggest you upload your data to ytree and look at what haplogroup projects you can join here at FTDNA as those guys really know their stuff and can be a GREAT resource for you! :) Hope this helps and if you have any questions feel free to drop me an email. Sincerely, Lisa
Don Robinson
December 27 @ 11:38pm
Hi Lisa: I sent you an email as you suggested I could. Thanks, Don
Don Robinson
January 21 @ 11:28pm
I went to Advanced Matches and checked for matches in this group and came up with the following:
Don Robinson
January 21 @ 11:29pm
Steven Randolph Robinson Mr. Ricky Lynn Robinson John Robison David Russell Robison Fred Robinson administered by Steve Robinson Herman F. Robinson administered by Steve Robinson Mark William Robison email FTDNA Tip note GEDCOM Viewer Y-DNA67 FF R-M269 0 0 0 1 - John Craig Robinson email FTDNA Tip note Y-DNA111 FF R-L48 1 x 4 5 7
Steven Robinson Steven Robinson
January 10 @ 3:54pm
I started my genealogy 25 years ago, and felt alone in doing it. All I could do was work the paper trail upwards, and sift through the massive surname data downwards. Then, FTDNA came along. I progressively tested up to BigY and saw the matches that clearly indicated a family migration from nearly a single parent. It even matched the "story" of the immigration compiled by someone in the late 19th century, although, I was unable to exactly match the related people into a tree since no one had definite data going back far enough. However, now, by combining the matches in FTDNA with the clustering tool on, I was able to build a rough tree that approximates the relationships of all my matches in the project table. I think it's accurate +- 3 generations. Very excited and can't wait to research ancestry for matching trees to fill in the blanks!
Lisa Franklin
January 14 @ 7:10am
If only ancestry trees online weren't 80% erroneous and thereby leading people up avenues of wasted hours of time. Sigh
Steven Robinson
January 14 @ 12:45pm
Yes. For this new tree I am building, I am only including official documentation and screening input. But it is still fraught in this tree, I thought based on my calculations and a self reported try that I have found the correct connection there for George Robinson. And, I may have. But I have three different sources, all of which are based on human recollection, and they are all slightly different. With no other info to go on, I have to try to choose.
Steven Robinson
January 14 @ 12:48pm
One thing I wish was more available are family trees and family bibles from the nineteeth century. Just as we rely on interviewing our grandparents to get our trees started, that information is still based on living memory. I have a great letter in my family from 1900 that outlines a torturous hairball of marriages where widows would married their spouses siblings later in life, and everyone names their kids the same names. It was funny, one guy ended up being his own grandfather through marriage or something.
John Robison John Robison
December 28 @ 4:17pm
I am John Robison, kit 62885 My most distant known ancestor is Manoah Dixon Robison, Robinson, or Robertson who died in Carroll County, GA and supposedly came from the Carolinas.
John Robison
December 28 @ 4:20pm
He died shortly after the Civil War. Three more generations of Robison remained in Carroll County (some are there today) My great grandfather moved to Gwinnett County, GA in 1918. He died there in 1971, leaving two children, my father John Robison who died in Shelburne MA and my uncle Bob Robison who died in Dothan, AL. I have a bunch of matches here but none seem to connect to this line.
ED Robinson
December 29 @ 10:12am
I only had one meaningful connection at Y25. I found 5 more at Y 111. But ruling out family lines is important too and since my family seems to have come from the Carolinas also every bit helps. I do wish they would add a column to help with this. Robinson ancestor between 1750 to 1850 would be just as helpful or more helpful than oldest known.