Lewis M. Ruddick
Reddick/R320 Project Administrator.
Please send me any news you have regarding your yDNA connection successes so that the information can be shared with our members.
Also PLEASE post your GEDCOM information toyour account. With the increasing number of Family Finder returns this information will greatly improve the quick identification of possible family matches thus better utilizing the resources we have available to us.
A portion of the Reddoch surname sub-group have removed themselves from our group and formed a separate Rose-Reddoch FTDNA Surname Group. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/rose-reddoch/ How many of you Reddoch surnamed wish to remain with the Reddick/r320 surname Group? If you do not indicate to me to the affirmative that you wish to remain with this project I am going to ask FTDNA to move you to the Rose-Reddoch Group or unassigned.
The I2B1 Ruddock/Ruddick sub-group (re-identified as I2a2a L34/PF3857/S151, L36/S152, L59, L368,L622, M223, P219/PF3859/S24, P220/S119, P221/PF3858/S120, P222/PF3861/U250/S118,P223/PF3860/S117, Z77 (How is that for a mouth full?) since 6 September 2013and given a short hand designation of I-M223) now numbers 14 closely matched members who all share a common ancestor. We continue to work at trying to identify this early Ruddock progenitor. To assist in this effort this summer I tookthe Family Finder test to see just what might ripple out of those results which are proving to be quite interesting.
It also appears that four additional individuals who on paper should be members of this group are not because of one or more NPEs which are the result of family wills dealing with estates passed along to daughter’s husbands. All have an Anglo-Irish connection. Unfortunately the difficult state of affairs caused by the destruction of Irish records has made the discovery of crucial church and civil records in Ireland quite difficult but not impossible.
Regardless of the difficulties found in Dublin I have been able to identify the location in Ireland where my fifth great grandfather William Ruddock departed enroute to Penn’s Colony. It was the tiny village of The Diamond located in Grange Lower, Barony of O’Neilland West, County Armagh, northern Ireland. This discovery would have been impossible without the assistance of yDNA coupled with genealogical research of the old fashioned variety. The yDNA test matches clearly showed me that I had been overlooking clues in my conventional research which under a re-evaluation came leaping off their respective pages. I am now attempting to identify my fifthgreat grandmother who is NOT Alice Garretson as so frequently reported on ancestry.com and to identify the birthplace and parents of my William Ruddock. It is possible that he camefrom the area in the border area of counties Carlow, Wexford and Wicklow based upon the yDNA connections I have found within this sub-group. Next year I will be going to PRONI and to The Diamond to see what information I can develop.
Lewis M. Ruddick
November 16, 2013
1- 14236 William Ruddock- Penn Colony America before 1735.Ireland
2- 98511 Laurence Ruddock, born 1771, Ireland
3- 85751 James Ruddock m. 1810, Seagoe Parish, Co. ArmaghIreland
4- 115763 William Ruddock- Penn Colony America before 1735.Ireland (my 5th cousin)
5- 111758 Abraham Ruddock (1785-1873), Co. Wexford, IRE Unknown Origin
6- 14236 William Ruddock- Penn Colony America before 1735.Ireland
7- 90794 Charles Marshall, born 1800, Carelton, Scotland (brother of number 13)
8- 2503 William W. Hull, born 1874, Ireland
9- 90504 Michael Ruddock (1793-1846), Co. Wexford, IRE England
10- 91826 Robert Ruddick, b.c. 1825, Co. Armagh, IRE Ireland
11- 145166 John Hull b. 1794 Dromore, Co.Down Ireland
12- 163715 Charles Marshall, born 1800, Carelton, Scotland (brother of number 7)
13- 203840 Abraham Ruddock Co. Wexford 1785
14- 258502 Hull related to thetwo above
Half of the individuals have been specifically Haplogroup tested. The balance are Haplogroup estimated based upon their yDNA test results.
Number1 & 6 above are documented 5thcousins who share the same 5thgreat grandfather.
Number8 &11 above are cousins
Number5 & 13 above are cousins
Haplogroup I2a2a (formerly I2b1)
Amounts to 90% of I2a2. The Kromminga heritage is linked to SNP M223 Haplogroup I2a2a - called the Stonemasons. HaplogroupI2a2a has two basic parts - Continental & Roots. The Continental clades seem to have had their foundings some 9,000 years ago on the north German plain. I2a2a-M223 (which is possibly Danubian) has a peak in Germany and another in eastern Sweden but also appears in Russia, Greece, Italy and around the Black Sea. There is a little among Armenians. An earlier, but more detailed, distribution map shows a little in the Near East, North Africa and along the Western seaboard of Iberia. This haplogroup occurs at a moderate frequency among populations of Northwest Europe, with a peak frequency in the region of Lower Saxony in northwestern Germany. I have a tendency to believe that our first Haplogroup I2a2a male was pre Celto-Germanic-Danubian. That their ancestors traveled from around the Black Sea either up the Danube or through the European Plain of the Ukraine, Poland and Germany. Since I2a2 ancestors were co-founders of several old Ukraine cities I tend to favor the European Plain migration route along several rivers that exist in the European Plain.Particularly the Western Bug & Vistula Rivers to the Baltic Sea. HaplogroupI2a2a has five subclades - I2a2a1(British), I2a2a2(Continental),I2a2a3(Germanic), I2a2a4(Anglo-German) & I2a2a5.
After being matched at y16 Lewis M. Ruddick and Michael Hull tested out to y67andremained and matched until the last segment were they dropped to +/- 1 at a fast mutating marker. They then were unmatched with any other kit for quite a period of time before the matches began trickling in. There are now fourteen members of the sub-group matching with two being perfect matches with Lewis’ 67 markers.
One of Lewis’ matches is his 5th cousin who connects at his 5thgreat grandfather and is their earliest known ancestor. This match is NOT as close a match as his perfect Ruddock match from Australia.
Michael Hull also has two other Hull matches and they turned out to be his distant cousins.
One of the perfect matches with Lewis is interesting in that he is in New Zealand and from a surname that doesn’t quite fit; Marshall. There are Marshalls in at least two of the trees, one in County Armagh, Ireland and one in Jackson County, Indiana, USA (Lewis’) but they do not connect to the New Zealand Marshall line on paper. (one of the matching Marshalls was only tested to y12and is the brother of the y67 perfect match Marshall).
All of the kit matches other than Marshall have documented Ireland roots with most from Co. Armagh. Lewis’ perfect Ruddock match’s family immigrated to Australia from Bunclody, Co. Wexford. Marshalls do have a documented connection to Ireland through their maternal line.
The maximum Genetic Distance of this entire sub-group is +/- 2 and as noted at the beginning the haplogroup was I2b1 and is now I2a2a (short-hand I-M223). The technical haplogroup description is provided above.
If you have had a successful connection as a result of your DNA testing please share it with us. I am interested in hearing about your Family Finder successes. I have just sent a Family Finder kit to my sister to see what we might discover with our combined tests.
Lewis M. Ruddick
Reddick/R320 Group Administrator
P.S. I am also happy to report that after another short hiatus Dale Reddick is back with the group. He can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Dale Reddick provides thew following updated Georgia Reddick information and German connection
Most portions of the following information dealing withGerman origins for the Georgia Reddick / r320s were contributed by Dr.Ulf-Dietmar Radicke. His own researchinto the origins of r320-surnamed folks in his area has led him to collect agreat deal of information about various r320 lineages in southwesternGermany. Dr. Radicke is not related tothe Georgia Reddicks, but he has greatly helped us in finding our Germanancestors. We know that Ulf is notrelated to us due to his having undergone a yDNA genealogical test in which hisresults do not match those of the Georgia Reddicks.
However, a connection between the Georgia Reddick / r320sand modern German Rettigs has been proven by yDNA testing. Two Rettigs in Germany match with multipleReddicks with Georgia origins. Theirorigins lie in the Reichenbach Parish of the Odenwald region of southwesternGermany.
This deals with the Reddick & Readdick linesestablished in Georgia starting in 1737. These immigrant people originated in Reichenbach Parish of the Odenwaldregion. In modern terms this area ofReichenbach Parish is part of the community of Lautertal, a portion of theBergstrasse district, and is found in the southernmost portion of modern Hesse(Hessen) state. This is a region of lowmountains just east of the Rhine River, south of Frankfurt am Main and furthersouth of Darmstadt.
Johannes Rettich was born in Gadernheim, ReichenbachParish, in 1701. He married MariaBarbara Wolff circa January, 1724. Theylived in Raidelbach, Reichenbach Parish, where Johannes was probably a peasantfarmer. The portion of ReichenbachParish in which they lived was then part of the County of Erbach-Schonberg (aportion of the parish also lay in the Electoral Palatinate of the Rhine -Rheinpfalz or simply Pfalz). ReichenbachParish was a Lutheran church parish. They emigrated early in 1737 and passed through Rotterdam, Neatherlandsprior to embarking out of Cowes, England in October of that year. Johannes and Maria Barbara had six children,four of which arrived in Savannah, Georgia.
1. Anna KatharinaRettich b. 24 OCT 1724 in Raidelbach, Reichenbach Parish, Erbach-Schonberg(modern Hessen), Germany, d. < one year.
2. JohannesRettich b: 18 APR 1726 in Raidelbach, Reichenbach Parish, Erbach-Schonberg(modern Hessen), Germany, d. > 1775, colonial or state Georgia, aka JohnRadick / Raddick / Readick / Reddick.
3. Johann MichaelRettich b. 1728 in Raidelbach, Reichenbach Parish, Erbach-Schonberg (modernHessen), Germany, d. c. 1793 (will OCT 12, 1793) in Chatham Co., GA, USA, akaMichael Radick / Readick / Readdick.
4. Anna ApolloniaRettich b. 1731 in Raidelbach, Reichenbach Parish, Erbach-Schonberg (modernHessen), Germany, d. > 1737 in colonial or state Georgia.
5. Johann PeterRettich b. 1734 in Raidelbach, Reichenbach Parish, Erbach-Schonberg (modernHessen), Germany, d. c. 1778 (will NOV 7, 1778) in Chatham Co., GA, USA, akaPeter Radick / Readick / Readdick.
6. ElisabethaMargaretha Rettich b. 1737 in Raidelbach, Reichenbach Parish, Erbach-Schonberg(modern Hessen), Germany, d. 1737 in route between Germany & Georgia (shedid not arrive in Georgia).
The family arrived off Tybee Island at the mouth of theSavannah River DEC 20/21, 1737 aboard the ship Three Sisters, which sailedunder the command of a captain Hewitt. Upon arrival in Savannah the six family members were recorded as followswith anglicized naming:
1194. Radick, John-- Palatine Tr. servt.; arrived 20 Dec. 1737.
1195. ----------,Maria Barbara, w.
1196. ----------,Ann Apolonia, d.
1197. ----------,Hans Michl., son.
1198. ----------,John, son.
1199. ----------,Jo. Peter, son.
This listing of the new arrivals came from page 42 of"A List Of The Early Settlers Of Georgia" edited by E. Merton Coulterand Albert B. Saye.
Of those four children who arrived in Savannah, here's abrief outline of their fortunes in Georgia.
2. JohannesRettich became John Readick (Raddick, Reddick, Radwick, Redwick, Redwike, etc)and was awarded lands in Christ Church Parish (Chatham County) during1760s. In 1767 he received 300 acresalong the Ogeechee River in what is now Bulloch Co., GA. In 1775 he was awarded another 100 acresadjacent to the prior land grant. Theidentity of his wife is unknown and when he died is also unknown (about 1775 orthereafter, presumably). He had fourknown sons: Nicholas, Jacob, Peter, andFrancis (see below).
3. Johann MichaelRettich became Michael Readick (Readdick, Radick, Reodick, etc) and was awarded50 acres in 1759 on what was first called Providence Island, then LibertyIsland, and lastly Dutch Island in Christ Church Parish (Chatham County). Michael and his wife Salome had no recordedchildren in Michael's will of 1793. Their property on what is now Dutch Island passed on to the family ofMichael's brother Peter.
4. Anna ApolloniaRettich (aka Ann Apolonia Radick) leaves us with no further records after herarrival in 1737 with her parents and brothers. I have speculated that she married the prominent miller and Justice ofthe Peace Francis Paris, but this is just a hypothesis based on Paris'continuing association with this generation of Readicks and a followinggeneraton of four Reddick brothers.
5. Johann PeterRettich became Peter Readick (Readdick, Radick, Reodick, etc). He married Cattarenah Herbach and they hadeight children as listed in his 1778 will. He was granted land on Piney Island and Lacey's Island (later Turner'sRocks) in Christ Church Parish (Chatham County). His family inherited the land of his brotherMichael and sister-in-law Salome on what is now Dutch Island. His sons Jacob and Gaspar resided in ChathamCounty and farmed on the islands near Savannah. Those two brothers were still alive in 1818 when they each wereparticipants in deeds involving their family's land. Peter and Cattarenah had six daughters ofwhich three married.
John Readick (# 2, above) had settled on the OgeecheeRiver near Burgholder's or Burkhalter's Crossing / Ferry in what is now BullochCounty. This is just upstream and acrossthe river from Oliver in Screven Co. Itis nearly directly across the river from the old railroad stop at Halcyondalein Screven Co. Because of associationsbetween John Readick and four Reddick brothers with members of the Burkhalterfamily and the miller Francis Paris it appears that the four brothers are thesons of John. Two of the four brothersnamed sons of theirs John. The fourbrothers Nicholas, Jacob, Peter, and Francis are first found starting in 1785along Brier Creek in what was then Burke Co. They were living along the creek and adjacent to the millpondconstructed by Francis Paris (in 1770) on the creek.
A. NicholasReddick (Readick, Redick, Rettig, Rettige), b. colonial Georgia, d. < 1811
B. Jacob Reddick(Readick, Redick) b. colonial Georgia, d. c. 1808
C. Peter Reddick(Readick, Redick) b. colonial Georgia, d. < JAN 01, 1815
D. Francis Reddick(Readick, Redick, Readdick) b. colonial Georgia, d. < 1805
It is from these four brothers that most of the GeorgiaReddicks arise. yDNA genealogical testshave been performed with descendants of Nicholas, Jacob, and presumablyFrancis. They all match as relatedcousins. A descendant of Gaspar Readick(son of Peter Readick and grandson of Johannes Rettich) has also undergone yDNAtesting. His results also match with theothers. These Georgia Reddicks andReaddicks match with two German Rettigs and two Rettigs whose ancestor settledin Butler County, PA during the 19th century. They are all distant cousins with shared German origins.
I've included most of the common spellings of the surnameduring those early generations in Georgia. There is another form of misnaming that did occurr: 'Jacob LewisReddick'. Jacob Reddick was -never-recorded as 'Jacob Lewis Reddick' in the records examined that name him. Jacob Reddick had a son Nicholas MosesReddick who in turn had a father-in-law named Jacob Lewis. A bit of confusion by someone years agoprobably led to the creation of the faux identity of 'Jacob Lewis Reddick' whenmixing together the names of Nicholas Moses Reddick's father and father-in-law.
I hope that this proves to be helpful to those who areinterested in the Georgia Reddicks.
Dale E. Reddick
The following is from Robin Simoneaux
I have been researching my Western PA Reddick lines foraround 20 years. My Reddick line is from Thomas Patton Reddick b. Jan 1816 inWestern PA. In the beginning I knew he married Rosanne Young probably around1838, possibly in W. PA, moved to Iowa by 1840 and the names of their childrenand grandchildren. I had information in letters that my grandfather's cousinsshared with my mother about our Reddick family. They know they had cousins thatwere living in PA and OK and where in the oil business. They said that ThomasP. Reddick was b. in Indiana, Allegheny PA according to what their parents toldthem. I also found several wonderful old pictures dating back to the early1900s that had Reddick cousins written on the back. Not too much to go on, butcertainly better than some people have.
In the following years, I found through research, severalReddick lines I thought fit the information I had. They lived in the same areasand also used quite a few of the same family names. Through, limited lettersand actual pension records I was able to determine that Thomas P. Reddick hadprobable brothers, Jesse Reddick b. 1820 W. PA, John Reddick b. 1814 W. PA andWm Reddick b. 1809 W. PA. The pension application proved that Jesse Reddick hada brother named John Reddick. A Reddick from Wm. line identified the people inone of the pictures as cousins; Enoch a son of Wm's and Jesse's son Norman.Both in OK and oil men.
Several of Jesse's children sent sympathy letter and cardswhen Thomas died and I know from from letters written by Jesse and his childrenthat my Reddick line had contact with Jesse into the early 1900's. All this isgreat and points the way, but except for Jesse naming a brother John; all I hadwas family stories, memories and speculation.
When YDNA testing came available I started hunting for malesto have tested. I happily found one of the few remaining male Reddick's fromThomas's line who was willing to test for me (a bonus being he was from mygrandfathers generation but with coming from such a large family he wasactually my mother's age) . A Reddick male from Jesse's line and Wm's linewere also willing to be tested. John sadly does not have any living maleReddick's to test. All our test proved what we had thought, the 3 Reddick lineswere related and closely so. Jesse and Thomas's great grandsons are an exact 37marker match. Wm's test was 37 -1 marker match. We had both Thomas's line andWm's line expanded to 67 markers thinking we would continue at be a match withone marker off. We were very surprised though to find an additional markerdifference on the 67 marker test making us off by 2.
DNA test results have also indicated which one of the 3possible early W. PA Reddick lines our 4 men are related to. Two of theseemingly different Reddick lines were tested and those results indicate our 4Reddick men are related to the John Reddick m. Rachael Hoge line and notrelated to the John Reddick. m. Elizabeth Gorrell line. At this time only onemale from each of those 2 Reddick lines have been tested. I am hoping to findat least 1 more man from each line to confirm test results. But YDNA testresults are certainly giving our Reddick family research group a direction tolook and are confirming some of our working theories.
We also have exact 67 markers matches to several otherReddick researchers along with a number of close matches. I am hoping thatthrough DNA testing and our continued search for the paper trails as indicatedby the DNA we will find our extended Reddick clans and how we a related.
Also see her post to the Ruddick surname website.
Dale Reddick has just posted some photographs and documents to the Reddick-Reddoch-Riddick-Ruddock-r320 Yahoo Group webpage
- Reddick-Reddoch-Riddick-Ruddock-r320 Group Photos
If you are a Georgia Reddick this information will be of great interest to you.
Lewis M. Ruddick