R SRY2627/Z198/L176

Jonathon, Yes, you certainly are blessed to have 17 Y-111 matches and 13 Big Y-700 matches! Also, I see that your current terminal Y-DNA SNP begins with FTDNA's new "FT" prefix, which has replaced their old "BY" prefix, so you have moved into the modern era of Y-DNA SNP naming. Congratulations, man! I, currently, have 1 Y-111 match, who is also my 1 Big Y-700 match. Our Y-DNA 3rd great-grandfathers were born in southwestern Sweden on 2 different farms near the North Sea Coast that were 11.5 miles/18.5 kilometers apart. He and I are still searching for our common father. Okay. Now, to answer your question. So, you have 7 Big Y-700 matches whose Y-DNA STR Genetic Distance you want to know. There are 2 ways you can obtain this information: 1. You can email every one of the 7 men, ask them what their FTDNA Kit Numbers are, and ask them to send you a list of their Y-DNA 111 STRs. 2. You can email every one of the 7 men, and ask them to join the main R1b-DF27 Project, and this R1b-SRY2627/Z198/L176 Project, as well. Then, ask them for their FTDNA Kit Numbers, in order to identify them. Then copy the list of their Y-DNA STRs from the "DNA Results" page into a spreadsheet, like Microsoft Excel, and compare them to yours. Now, comes the fun part. It isn't just as simple as 13 minus 12 equals a Genetic Distance of 1. Oh, no. There are rules for calculating the Y-DNA STR Genetic Distance between 2 men. Here is a weblink to those rules: https://dna-explained.com/2016/04/14/concepts-y-dna-matching-and-connecting-with-your-paternal-ancestor/ If you have additional questions about these calculations, feel free to ask us here. I have helped over 100 men calculate their Y-DNA STR Genetic Distance to other men. There are probably some Project Members here who have helped far more men than I have, so you might hear from them, also. I will take this opportunity to say hello to you, as a fellow R1b-CTS4299 cousin of yours. I know that you are a close match to the Parrish men, whose ancestors are from Yorkshire, England. The area of southwestern Sweden, where my Y-DNA ancestors are from, was originally ruled by Denmark, and we all know about the historical connection between Danish Vikings and Yorkshire, England. Therefore, I think that there is some kind of a strong Denmark-England Y-DNA connection here between all of us R1b-CTS4299 men at some point in time. R1b-CTS4299 is, currently, estimated to have occured about 530 BC/BCE, with a time-range of 1142 BC/BCE - 28 AD/CE. The connection between all of us R1b-CTS4299 men probably goes back farther in time to northeastern Spain.

thanks Douglas i jave attempted to contact y-111 matches to see if they planned to upgrade to snp testing with no reply, i have a feeling there is a closer match already here if they Would Upgrade.

Only if you have matches beyond that point. Which I believe you would. Big Y is the best to find terminal snp.

Jacob, The Big Y test is always the best test to take, because it is a discovery test that will give you the most information about yourself and your Y-DNA ancestors. However, FTDNA recommends that two men who take the Big Y test be at least Y-DNA 3rd cousins (have a common Y-DNA 2nd great-grandfather), and preferably be Y-DNA 4th cousins (have a common Y-DNA 3rd great-grandfather). If two men take the Big Y test who are closer than this, they will not learn anything new from their Big Y test. So, if your father already took the Big Y-700 test, then you should not take it. If he took a Y-DNA SNP Pack Test to arrive at R-Z198, and that is how you know he is positive for it, then you should go ahead and take the Big Y-700 test. The Big Y-700 test will give you about 700 Y-DNA STRs, and it will reveal all of your Y-DNA SNPs to the year you were born. The Y-DNA SNPs are what trace the direct male bloodline. Then, the Y-DNA STRs can be used to figure out branching points within a Y-DNA SNP Family. According to Dr. Iain McDonald's R1b-P312 Table: http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/~mcdonald/genetics/p312/table.html the Y-DNA SNP, Z198, occurred about 2620 BC with a range of (3289 BC — 2011 BC). Like Jonathon Bruce wrote above, if you take the Big Y-700 test, you will probably match other men who are below Z198, which Jonathon and I both are. The only reason you wouldn't receive a current terminal Y-DNA SNP below Z198 is if you don't match any other men, and that would make you a very rare man. My Y-DNA ancestor who immigrated to the USA was a Swedish Lutheran Sailor who changed his surname from Alexandersson to Smith. What about you, Jacob? What is the origin of your Y-DNA Wolfe ancestors?

Jacob is my father. He only has one match on a 37 marker test with a GD of 2 with no known common ancestors. He has no matches on a 67 or 111 marker test. His earliest known ancestor is John Wolf born 1770-1780 from Schulylkill County, PA who moved to western PA. I am going to pay for his match on the 37 marker test to take an autosomal test to see if we have any shared ancestors since I am at a ded end. I have not found another male descendant of John Wolf to test although he had sons. That's why I wonder if the Big Y will help me other than on his deep ancestry. My father died in 2014 so he cannot provide a new DNA sample and his current sample at Family Tree DNA has been tested a few times. They still have his sample but cannot tell me if there is enough to do the Big Y without trying it. He has no sons, brothers, or nephews living. Thank you for your input.

Overigens heb ik volgens mijn geschatte Autosomale DNA-test voor 95% de Engelse etniciteit (MyHeritageDNA), Met vriendelijke groet, Johan Kranenburg

ik heb dus niets te maken met Equatoriaal-Guinea. Mijn familie komt uit Nederland. Kennelijk zijn er nog 14 tot 20 onbekende haplogroepen danwel SNP’s (berekend over 2.000 jaar). De wijsheid komt van .dr. Iain McDonald ((gemiddeld één mutatie per 100-144 jaar). Met vriendelijke groet. Johan Kranenenburg

m'n donatie heb ik reeds voldaan.

Mijn definitieve haplogroep is BY3221 (BY3223, A7415, A7414, CTS10339, A7416, CTS11799) en is ca. 2.000 jaar geleden ontstaan. Per 100-144 jaa treedt één mutatie op. Er zijn dus nog 14 tot 20 onbekende haplogroepen danwel SNP’s. Zijn deze onbekende haplogroepen (snp's) wel gearchiveerd danwel benoemd?

Goedenavond Johan. Jouw haplogroep is een tak van R-CTS4549 die in heel West-Europa is gevonden, van Portugal tot Nederland. R-CTS4549 is ongeveer 2.000-2.500 jaar oud en R-BY3221 is waarschijnlijk een paar honderd jaar jonger.

hartelijk dank

dus R-BY3221 is ca. 2000 jaar geleden ontstaan?

Met vriendelijke groet