R SRY2627/Z198/L176

Thanks for sharing the discount codes! I had been hesitating to order the upgrade to Big Y-700 because of the cost, but with the discount, I couldn't resist! I have found very close matches at Y-67 for my MARTIN ancestors, so hopefully this will further clarify those connections.

Still way too expensive...

I am looking for advice for what I can do to get branching to occurr in my Big Y-700 study. I just posted the family tree of the people I am working on. I have a terminal group of SNPS which I think should have branches in it Y-Haplogroup: R-FGC35930 Terminal SNPs: A12555 • FGC35929 • FGC35930 • FGC35931 • FGC35933 • FGC35934 • FGC35936 • FGC35937 • FGC35938 • FGC35939 • FGC35940 • FGC35941 • FGC35942 • FGC35943 • FGC35944 • FGC35945 • FGC35946 • FGC35947 • FGC35950 • FGC35951 • FGC35952 • ZS922

the lobster color are tests due with over 23 weeks in processing. The green are just starting their process through FTDNA Big Y-700. WHERE ELSE SHOULD I ADD TESTS TO IDENTEFY THE ACTUAL BRANCHES?

James, The usual recommendation for 2 men taking the Big Y-700 test is that they should not be any closer than Y-DNA 4th cousins, otherwise their results will be too similar and not create any new branches. Y-DNA 4th cousins have a common Y-DNA 3rd great-grandfather; that is 5 generations before the main tested men. Then, if we make their Y-DNA 3rd great-grandfather the main tested man, 5 generations before him is the Y-DNA 8th great-grandfather of the original main tested men, making the next man who should take the Big Y-700 test their Y-DNA 9th cousin. I don't think the Big Y-700 recommended-match-testing-formula needs to be followed this rigidly, but, in a perfect world, in order to learn the most about our own Big Y-700 test results, Genetic Genealogy Scientists recommend that we test: 1. a Y-DNA 4th, 5th, or 6th cousin 2. a Y-DNA 9th, 10th, or 11th cousin 3. a Y-DNA 14th, 15th, or 16th cousin 4. a Y-DNA 19th, 20th, or 21st cousin 5. a Y-DNA 24th, 25th, or 26th cousin So, if you are James 1942, then Casper 1732 is your Y-DNA 5th great-grandfather; and if you are testing Y-DNA descendants of his other 2 sons, then that should certainly yield additional Y-DNA SNP branches within your common Rader family. That's a great family tree chart that you posted! Good luck with finding out more information from the other testers' forthcoming Big Y-700 results! By the way, James, I remember you! You were one of my 39 Big Y matches from the original Big Y test. Then, when FTDNA transitioned to the Big Y-500 test, my number of matches went to 0. I see your group of 4 Rader men on Alex Williamson's "The Big Tree." I am on there to the left of you a bit as: 446556 - Andersson - Flag of Sweden. The land where my Earliest Known Y-DNA Ancestor was born (currently: Bohuslän/Båhuslen; formerly: Viken/Vigen) is currently ruled by Sweden (1658-Present); it was ruled by Denmark-Norway (1523-1658); it was ruled by Kalmar Union (1397-1523); it was ruled by Norway (1016-1397); and it was originally ruled by Denmark (Earliest Known History-1016). Have you found any new information as to the Y-DNA origin of your Rader family in Europe? I am guessing they were from somewhere in Germany or maybe Switzerland. Our most-recent common Y-DNA SNP is Z207, which is currently believed to have occurred about 866 BC/BCE (with a range of 1501 BC/BCE - 307 BC/BCE).