Descendants of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Kingdom of Poland
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Stanisław von Habsburg-Lothringen / Motycki Stanisław von Habsburg-Lothringen / Motycki
January 2 @ 9:51am
W Polsce mieszka 31% osób o grupie krwi 0 Rh+ , którzy prawdopodobnie mają pochodzenie Celtyckie.
Katarzyna Gmerek
January 14 @ 2:15pm
Would be glad to know more, especially that I am 0 Rh +. I know that many people in Ireland are 0, even 0 Rh- but my Dad had the same and he was from peasants' stock, western Greater Poland, traced until the half-18th cent. (no metrical records from Modrze before this..) I do not have paternal haplogroup, sadly, Dad died long time ago, no brothers, no male relatives./ Chciałabym dowiedzieć się czegoś więcej! Dość trudno chyba połączyć haplogrupę z grupą etniczną?.. Wiem że wielu Irlandczyków ma grupę 0, nawet 0 Rh - ale... Mój Ojciec też miał 0 Rh - a był z dziada pradziada Wielkopolaninem z zachodniej części kraju (ksiegi z Modrza, gniazda Gmerków, zaczynają się w 18w, Gmerkowie są tam już na początku..)
January 10 @ 11:33pm
Hi, here is a interesting website the might aide people in researching their Polish ancestry. https://sites.google.com/view/polishgenealogygroup/home
Stanley Waryck Stanley Waryck
December 18 @ 7:44pm
Good evening, does anyone have a good resource for maps during the partitions of Poland?
Bogusław Tomaszewski
December 31 @ 12:04pm
Stanley Waryck
December 31 @ 3:14pm
Bogusław, thank you! This is a treasure.
Richard May
January 5 @ 11:01pm
Thanks, excellent maps. Also from the same website is this link: https://nazwiska-polskie.pl/ You can search for surname locations using it.
Patrick Gillis
January 7 @ 3:20pm
Thank You for the excellent maps
joseph Wojcik joseph Wojcik has a question!
December 26 @ 11:15am
Hello all, I require some assistance locating birth and marriage records from the mid to late 19th century in Mała. I've run out of leads on the American end of my research with my great-great grand father's (Francizek "Franc" Wojcik, 1859-?) immigration paperwork and a name of his brother, Tomasz Wojcik (1869-1913).
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joseph Wojcik
December 31 @ 8:18pm
I really don't know. It might not even exist, as the country of origin on the immigration paper work is Galicia (which was part of southern Poland and western Ukraine).
Bogdan Sleczkowski
January 1 @ 10:32am
Hi Joseph. Find please in this document Mała, Tarnów. https://www.pbc.rzeszow.pl/dlibra/publication/2638/edition/2517/content?ref=desc
Bogdan Sleczkowski
January 1 @ 10:32am
Robert Biallas (mgd by dau)
January 2 @ 9:36pm
Joseph: i found the immigration 1896 for Franc where he came with 2 children, but that does not say MALA, it shows his last residence was Balt - Baltimore and his destination is Baltimore and his wife, implying his wife is already living in Baltimore. IF it were me, I'd be looking for a prior immigration record for Franc and possibly his wife which could better illucidate the galicia residence. I do see Mala on the list in that immigration record, but for other passengers. If you still think its Mala, try these google map coordinates which will put you close to Mala. 49.988889,21.516944 ....and i see where there is a Franc living with Tomasz in 1900 census in Maryland, but that Franc has a birthdate of 1878, not 1859 with the same children Joseph and Helena, but no wife, so could be a birthdate error. I think you might have more to look for in USA docs yet. Good luck with your search!
Patrick Gillis Patrick Gillis
December 18 @ 5:50pm
I just joined the Polish group. My Mt DNA haplogroup is K1c1f. My maternal ancestral surnames are Borowska, Jerzynek or Jarzynka. Unfortunately I can't go back further with surnames. My ancestral maternal lines are in the Plock area. If anyone has any insights, I would appreciate it.
Patrick Gillis
December 28 @ 9:31am
Witold I found relatives from the link you sent. do you know how to retrieve the records
December 29 @ 8:17pm
Hi, Patrick, on the right side of the records under remarks you will sometimes see a box with the word scan. Click on it , it will take you to the scan of the birth, marriage or death record. Some of the scans are on this http://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php website but others are on the Family search website which is free but requires one to sign up. cheers Witek
Eugeniusz Wysmołek
December 30 @ 11:56am
I think in most cases you would need to visit specific parish one by one and ask for books based on record found in geneteka
Patrick Gillis
December 30 @ 7:29pm
Thank You Witold and Eugeniusz. I did find some of the scans on the website that posted Witold. Now to find someone to translate. I live in the States so can anyone recommend a genealogy service that can retrieve the records and translate to english from Poland.
David Miller David Miller
December 29 @ 2:19pm
I recently joined the POLISH group, so I may be repeating information others have shared already. Since there isn't a SEARCH function yet on the site, I am sharing a few resources I have found useful. Polish Genealogical Society of America (focuses on mid-west, but very comprehensive). Czechoslovakia Genealogical Society International (includes several additional Austria Hungary countries). Carpatho-Rusyn Society (LEMKO and RUTHENIAN/GALICIAN folks). Local presentations are VERY informative for the Eastern European descendants. Eastern European Genealogical Society (deep dive into records and history). Absolon.EU (Peter ABSOLON who lives in Slovakia, willing to help with Jewish ancestry). I have many more resources. Plus I've read several books on Slovakia and Austria-Hungary history. A very informative book is THE NATION IN THE VILLAGE: The Genesis of Peasant National Identity in Austria Poland 1848-1914 (Hope I got details correct; I'm recalling from memory). Are we allowed to contact specific individuals by email to better collaborate with persons that have like interests and/or possible DNA or family connections?
Jordi Mestres
December 29 @ 5:12pm
Hi David, many thanks for sharing this. I was wondering if you may find in any of those polish genealogical sites a polish man who just took a Big Y test and got his Y-chromosome classified as R1a-KMS45. This is my closest match at present but since our distance is above 30 SNPs, FTDNA does not consider him a match and, thus, I have no means of contacting this man. He did not join neither any FTDNA project nor YFull. Many thanks in advance.
David Miller
December 29 @ 6:19pm
Jordi: To my knowledge, those groups only report surnames, and places of birth, marriage or death. They do not include DNA information. I have found matching surnames are few at 2nd cousin level and less with each family back in time. However, I found geography is VERY important for research. Genealogists I've commissioned ask the very first question: Where was this person born and when? If you provide any details about this individual, I can do a quick search on the resources available to me. I also use LinkedIN and Facebook (my wife's account) to find persons when I don't know how to contact them. Connect rate is over 80%. I have premium subscription to Ancestry. I've found most people that spend the money for Y-DNA and/or mtDNA tests are serious, so they belong to Ancestry of other genealogy organizations as well. I use surname search in both directions. My Heritage has an VERY large group of Eastern European members. Their analysis tools and reporting format is very helpful for researchers. Consider getting your mtDNA test done. It goes back over 60 generations. Try to get other family members to get DNA test as well. Upload to as many other DNA sites as practicable. Final tip: Join GEDmatch.com - free with email registration. They accept DNA from ALL test services, not just Ancestry. For $10 USD/mo you can subscribe to useful DNA analysis tools. If you do any of my suggestions, write to the individual and ask them to do the same. But, some people from Europe are uncooperative. If you want to avoid publishing information about this individual publicly, send your email address to me = DAVID@JBZLLC.COM. (Other members can contact me, but not for general help. I do not want to take place of our administrator!).
Benedict Janczewski Benedict Janczewski has a question!
December 5 @ 2:27pm
I am hoping someone can assist me, I took the Y37 Test with FTDNA. I downloaded my results and here is what I have - in Panel 2 DYS607 - 17, DYS576 - 18 and DYS 570 - 19. I have no clue what any of this means. It also says that it is further researching my HAPLO group? If you can assist I would appreciate the assistance. Thanks much. Ben Janczewski
Dale Wyatt
December 8 @ 9:44am
Benedict, I have also tested with the three you listed. Also, in my panel 2, my results are DYS607 - 16, DYS576 - 18 and DYS570 - 19. I have tested through the Y-500. I had one match some time ago. A haplogroup was formed for us. Later, three others became part of the group. Then, FTDNA changed something in their testing (algorithms?) and we were no longer considered matches. My relatives seem to shy away from DNA testing. Can't match them if they don't test. I have met many cousins through creating trees and including as many surnames as possible. A lot more work, but at least I make some connections. Just an idea to try.
Benedict Janczewski
December 11 @ 10:44am
I thank you to all whom have responded to my previous messages. I do now have a Haplo group from the Y37 Family Treen DNA test it is: R M 198??? Does anyone have information on where to go from here?
David Farrel* (Bio Dzivi)
December 23 @ 6:08pm
Benedict, please tell us your story. Are you searching for a particular patrilineal link? Your biological father perhaps? I'm sure you'll be better assisted if you'd provide a bit of background information. Results of FTDNA's YDNA tests include a very basic "haplogroup" which is better defined as a subclade. In your case R-M198 is your ancestors location on the R-haplotree. R-M198 was formed some 13,600 years ago and is quite common starting place for those located on the R haplotree. The SNP M198 defines that particular subclade. As you can see, information about common ancestors present in subclade R-M198 from 13,000 years ago is not very helpful. You if you're interested in ancient (but more recently ancient) ancestors, you should consider SNP testing. That can be accomplished through various forms. I am not a project administrator in this particular project so I cannot see your results and thus cannot comment on any matches you may or may not have at the Y37 level nor can I provide next-steps guidance for SNP testing. Perhaps Artur or Paul can chime in and assist with those specific aspects of your test.
Eugeniusz Wysmołek
December 24 @ 6:12am
Benedict - Take bigY - otherwise you will keep getting very general info. Been there done that.
Stanley Waryck Stanley Waryck
December 23 @ 10:32pm
Hi, my KIT is B379781, and I've been ungrouped for about a year now, any chance I can get my kit assigned to a group?
Benedict Janczewski Benedict Janczewski has a question!
December 23 @ 5:31pm
My kit is B548601. Looking for any assitance with my paternal line. Thanks...
James Brazas James Brazas
December 4 @ 12:27pm
Would anyone here be able to help me make sense of my Big Y results? My kit number is B393844 and I was assigned to haplogroup R-FGC70112. I know my surname is common in Lithuania, but before he died my grandfather said that we don't have much ethnic Lithuanian heritage despite the name. I don't know where in Lithuania my great grandfather was from, but they say it was in southern Lithuania around 1902. I know there were a lot of Poles, some Russians, and even some Germans in the area at that time. Autosomal DNA tests have shown plenty of Slavic and Germanic DNA, a bit of Nordic, and very little Lithuanian (maybe 2-4%). Does anyone have any ideas?
James Brazas
December 12 @ 10:44pm
@Igor Bartish: Very true. There was a surprisingly large amount of migration all across Central and Eastern Europe. That's probably why so many of us have difficulty discerning where we all originated from - especially those like me whose families have lived in the United States for generations. @Witold Ignerowicz: Thank you very much! If it really was Lukiškės the suburb of Vilnius, then that would definitely help with tracking down records. Thank you! I think my father said he still has a couple records somewhere deep in storage that I haven't seen yet. So I'll have to see if this matches his records. If so, then the answers may all lie in Vilnius.
Robert Rymsza
December 16 @ 12:19pm
James, I highly recommend the website Geneteka. This is not an end all to be all listing but records are continuously being added. It can point you in the right direction where people with your surname lived but, again, not all are listed. There are many holes. http://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php I also recommend the following websites for individual records. https://familysearch.org (It's free) https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/ (A Polish archive) https://www.epaveldas.lt/home (A Lithuanian archive) Now, all of these archives have their own pieces to the puzzle. For example, they may not contain the same years or churches. Also, with Family Search, there are different ways to get to the town you are looking for. Some, in the current boundaries of modern day Lithuania and Belarus you have to search through Poland or Lithuania and then look for areas in these countries. It can be a little confusing. But many of the records in the Polish archive have indexes. One other hiccup, and this is important, is that you will need to know what your surname looks like in old Russian. The records switch at some point from Polish to Russian. And when you find some records you can use the website https://polishorigins.com/ for free translations in the "forum" section. And, as if this all wasn't enough, I highly recommend also that you learn yourself the history of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. My family came from the border regions east of Suwalki, now in modern day Lithuania, and the borders moved frequently. You said southern Lithuania but keep in mind, depending on the year, this could now be in Northern Belarus. The partitioning of the Commonwealth and WWI played havoc on boundaries. Also, town names in Polish can look different enough in Lithuanian that you might have second thoughts if you have the right place. Google maps was helpful as was just doing a general search on Google. For example, my relatives came from a small village called Lozdzieje. But in Lithuanian it is spelled Lazdijai. But typing the Polish into Google maps showed me the correct location and current spelling. It confused my pre-internet relatives so much that we lost the correct location because all those that did know had passed. If you have any questions please ask. Good luck Bob Rymsza
David Farrel* (Bio Dzivi)
December 17 @ 2:14pm
Nice job Bob!
Richard May
December 19 @ 6:30pm
Bob, great list! I also found this link helpful for research. http://www.ipgs.us/iwonad/iwona.html She is a professional genealogist. I have not used her services, but have found her web site helpful as it lists many, many surnames and where they can be found with both the old and current spelling of towns and current and former countries in which they are located. I did not find the surname Brazas there, but came close with Brazo.