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Tal McMahon Tal McMahon has a question!
January 17 @ 9:07am
I am currently in the group, just bought the Big-Y Upgrade. :) I had an interesting find in my data and wanted to see which side of my family it came from. As a result, I am also the curator over a McMahon first cousin's (woman) data. Is there anything that can be learned from buying an upgrade for her? (I bought the first test for her as well.)
7 Comments
John McCracken
January 27 @ 6:58am
Tal, thank you for ordering Big Y. Looking forward to seeing your results here and on the Big Tree, likely on this part of it: https://www.ytree.net/DisplayTree.php?blockID=282
Tal McMahon
January 27 @ 2:32pm
John McCracken Apparently the makers of that tree aren't worried about the defect in color vision gene that makes everything on that page a shade of brown....but that is an X chromosome thing so..... :Shrug: :)
Terry McMahon
February 7 @ 8:09am
Tal McMahon - Down to the Gore, Terry J McMahon Books online: Down to the Gore: The History of the McMahons in Canada, 2014, ... Down to the Gore focuses on a Protestant branch of the McMahon family that ... NO THAT IS NOT ME! ... and this (kit) Terry MCMAHON is actually being written under his name by ME!-his X-2c1r (or thereabouts) manager for Kit IN36575 - Jane nee McMahon :) cheers.
John McCracken
April 8 @ 8:36am
Tal, glad your Big Y results arrived. I see they're in the queue at the Y-DNA Data Warehouse for the Big Tree. I started with R-BY39757, too.
Richard Raney Richard Raney
Admin
February 6 @ 12:47am
Attention Colla McMahon Project Members (F1-F6). Recently you should have received news from our Administrator, Patrick McMahon, that he has completed another project update of membership results and analyses targeting the Colla McMahons. It is now posted in the "About Us" section of this board under the "Updates -Members Only" tab. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/mcmahon/about/updates You may download from his dropbox folder link which will take you to a page with a blue download button. This will load 4 charts into your spreadsheet program for your viewing pleasure. We are now categorizing Colla McMahons using three considerations: 1) Shared SNPs, 2) Genetic Distance (GD) based on your STR results, and 3) those who possess unique off-modal (OM) STR patterns. The current update focuses on this third OM methodology that Patrick has developed. It is considered cutting edge in the field for sorting out placements of individuals who have either not yet or never will get SNP testing. This is particularly helpful to the families of testers who have passed on and can no longer upgrade their tests. You are sure to have questions after you look over this update. Please direct them to Patrick at his email address so that he can further explain his approach, particularly as it applies to your own kit placement. He has worked long and hard on this update and appreciates any feedback so that it can direct his future work for our project.
Joseph McMahon Joseph McMahon has a question!
January 6 @ 11:35am
Hello. I manage this account for my brother. His sample was received on the 12th of December, and showed analyzing by the 16th. On the 20th his family finder results became available, but his Y-111 is still showing unavailable and in the analyzing status. Is it common for the Y tests to take longer? I expected a delay in results due to all the purchases while the kits were on sale but just want to be sure it's normal for the results to come back separately from the family finder test. Thanks! Laura.
Richard Raney
January 6 @ 6:50pm
Hi Laura, Yes it is normal for family finder results to become available before Y dna results become available. Right now the projection for your brother's Y-111 dna results is 1/27/2020-2/10/2020 though I wouldn't be surprised to see it come in sooner. btw -your brother does show a family finder match to one of the other members in the project so it will be interesting to see if the Y dna matches them together as well.
Joseph McMahon
January 6 @ 7:40pm
Thank you. I guess I'm just too anxious to see his results. We are hoping this will help us bust down our brick wall.
jane van woerkom jane van woerkom
January 4 @ 12:53am
Hi Admins-Jane MCMAHON mtDNA IN12447 This request for assistance is with regard to COUSIN TERRY MCMAHON -IN36575 ... I am seeking HELP to RECOVER Terry McMahon's account-IN36575. Since Australian time January 2nd, 2020, I have been unable to sign in to his account(as manager). Almost coincidentally this occurred when I reviewed many of my passwords for the New Year. I have since attempted to gain access through a *password change; *recover the account; and also * to make direct log in inquiry/contact with FTDNA. All to no response at the moment. Further with each attempt to recover access-no reset links were sent to my email address (as manager of Terry's account). Further a similar issue arose with my own account-also no rest links sent-but after using a previous link reset-I was able to recover MY ACCOUNT. As this is not my DNA but only managed by me I am conscious of the earliest possible retrieval of Account IN36575 managed by me AND HIS PERSONAL DATA/information. Thanks for you assistance.
Richard Raney
January 4 @ 9:52am
Hi Jane, Rest assured that Terry's account is still intact and still accessible to the McMahon Surname Project administrators. Therefore, the account doesn't need to be recovered per se. You just need to recover the password. If you search through your emails at the time of original purchase you should find an email from ftdna confirming that you purchased the kit. The email heading will be "Family Tree DNA New Order Confirmation". Inside the email will be your password originally given to you for the kit. This will still work unless you changed it at some point. Failing in that, call ftdna from Australia at 0011-1 (713) 868-1438 and ask them to reset your password. Please email me at snugaza@aol.com if you require further assistance. Thanks
jane van woerkom
January 5 @ 1:27am
Hi Rich, thank you for responding. I will try such a search through past emails, firstly, then if no success, I will phone FTDNA-I have tried ringing FTDNA, but my International dialing code was incorrect-so thank you for providing the correct phone contact. Hopefully the above will work and if not, I will email you. Thank you again-Jane.
Terry McMahon
January 6 @ 9:29am
Rich Raney- this kit's password was reset by FTDNA - many thanks for the international dial code assistance.
Richard Raney Richard Raney
Admin
December 20 @ 8:39pm
Wow! A banner day for the McMahon Surname Project - fully 5 members received their upgraded Big Y-700 results today. These were some of the 19 McMahons who took advantage of the sale prices that finally do come to an end on Dec. 26th. We are finding that the processing time for orders has significantly speeded up now that BAM files are no longer included. What used to take three months is now only taking one month. I am posting to inform all Big Y testers (including those who received their results today) that once you receive your Big Y results there is still one very important voluntary step to do to maximize the benefits you derive from Big Y testing. We are very fortunate to have top genetic researchers in our R haplogroup who will further examine your ftdna results to look for additional findings and group you all for free. One of these men is Alex Williamson who runs the The Big Tree. I strongly recommend that you add your results to the Big Tree as Alex often finds SNPs and other anomalies not found by regular ftdna analysis. Here are Alex's instructions for including your results https://www.ytree.net/Instructions.html You basically download your zipped vcf file from your ftdna home page and then upload it to the Y-DNA data warehouse and they do the rest. https://ydna-warehouse.org/submit.php Now, if you prefer, as Administrators, we can submit your Big Y-700 to Alex Williamson's Big Tree for you, if you change your default access settings from "Limited" to "Advanced". Here are the instructions for doing that if you want our assistance. 1) You can access your "account settings" in the drop down menu under your picture, name, and kit # viewable on the top right corner of your home page. 2) Once you have accessed your "account settings" you will click on "Project Preferences" 3) Scroll down through your list of group projects until you find the one called "McMahon".. To the right of that listing will be two icons, Click on the one which looks like a pencil 4) A popup menu should appear entitled "Group Administrator Access: McMahon" Scroll down that page to where you see my name (Richard Raney) and Patrick McMahon's name. 5) Next to each of our names a drop down menu will allow you to change our access from "Limited" to "Advanced". Do that and then click on "Accept Project Preferences" at the bottom of the page. 6) Finally, notify us by email that you have changed your access settings and would like us to get your kit onto Alex Williamson's Big Tree.
Larry Caviness
December 31 @ 9:34pm
Access granted
Richard Raney
January 1 @ 4:21pm
All Set ! Be watching for your kit in the following link in the next few days. https://www.ytree.net/DisplayTree.php?blockID=5277
Richard Raney
January 4 @ 10:38am
Congratulations Larry! Alex Williamson's analysis is complete and as often happens, he found a match to another member in the McMahon Surname Project, before ftdna found it. You and Mr. Moorhead have formed a new subclade called R-BY55118 which means that you both share a common ancestor who probably lived in the period of 1400-1800 AD. In just a few short months, this has been the 4th new subclade to spawn from R-Z16280, the SNP from which most Colla McMahons have descended. Thanks to you and all the other folks who have Big Y tested so we could jointly discover these new SNPs which advance the knowledge of our common McMahon heritage. I note that Patrick has already updated the results page to reflect the change as you can now find your kit in group F6.4
Larry Caviness Larry Caviness has a question!
December 14 @ 11:14am
I did the upgrade to Y700 but haven’t received a kit. Do they use our existing data from the first kit?
Richard Raney
December 14 @ 11:56am
Yes. They use your existing kit unless they need to send you a new one to get a good sample. Probably look for results 1st week in February.
Terry McMahon Terry McMahon
December 9 @ 9:58pm
Hi again project admins-I have a Q and a request. 1) how do I go about contacting KIT #215932 (#18) results Y111 in this project and Kit #187479 =Mc Mahon Nicholas McMahon, 67/67-McNamara -187479, Co.Clare (see FTDNA Co Clare Project) R-Z16435 ... name change McMahon to McNamara etc? ... and if the 67/67 results for IN36575 were matching this kit and have now been superseded by both Y111 = R-Z16435 and now Y700 for IN36575=R-PH158 thus if the is no longer a match to this group results for kit #215932 & Co Clare Project #1874790 as IN365175 is now in its own grouping R-PH158 on the FTDNA Block Tree and KIT #215932/#187479 is of an unknown origin, 2) I ask could Kit IN36575 results be accordingly aligned with the FTDNA Block Tree in the results of this group too? I will post this same question/request to other groups where applicable ... when advised/ or explanation/s.
Richard Raney
December 10 @ 12:42am
Hello again Jane. First, let me thank you for alerting me to Kit #187479 so that I could send an invitation for him to join this project. I have just done so. Unfortunately though, the recipient needs to update his email address as the invitation has returned unopened. Second, you can find email addresses for the kits you mentioned among your Y dna matches for Y67 and Y111. Third, in group C2, where you find yourself, you are the only member thus far to order Big Y-700 testing. Another member has SNP tested out to R-Z16435 which you also share. It is very likely that all of the members in C2 would match you at R-PH158 and perhaps join you in a new subclade beyond R-PH158 were they to do Big Y -700 testing. Fourth, Kits won't appear on ftdna block trees or on Alex Williamson's Big Tree until they have completed Big Y-700 testing. Please let me know if I have covered all of your questions and requests. Thank you
Terry McMahon
December 11 @ 8:10am
Hi Rich, Thank you very much for the prompt reply and direction re contact information. I guess you could try the email address for Kit #215932 as It is referred to in a way that suggests it is connected to the non-responsive email address of Kit #187479? Also I understand a little better, why some Projects place kits in certain alignment patterns/'terminal snp' groupings. Thanks again. Jane per Terry.
Terry McMahon Terry McMahon
December 9 @ 9:25pm
Hello Admins and members, just to update ... my donation to Project 'kitty' is still forthcoming and wishing all a Merry Christmas or just happy holiday season ... Jane per cousin Terry
Terry McMahon Terry McMahon
November 15 @ 12:14am
Hello Admins, I received today an Admin update re sales -also a request to assist with the General Fund. I, (Jane per Terry #IN36575) have benefited once from this fund-Thank you-and currently his results are Terry McMahon #IN36575-Y700-PH158. So, as per MY email sent (I think to admins here as well?) on Tuesday AustralianEST -12.11pm. So, I ask have his results finished being read and thus completed - until any/more novel variants are revealed or should I SNP test further?????? ... Also, I see this information re PH158 is at Genetic Homeland (as per his Block Tree info.) Finally having once benefitted per General Fund 'Voucher/Code", how do I contribute to the fund-from Australia (and before Christmas)! Cheers Jane per Terry.
Richard Raney
November 15 @ 12:38pm
Hello Jane, Thank you for your participation in the McMahon Surname Project through your cousin Terry's kit #IN36575. I am emailing you and also posting on the board my response to your board inquiry since it may be of general interest. First off, since you have completed Big Y-700 testing, there is no further SNP testing to be done. As noted your cousin Terry has a terminal SNP of R-PH158. There is, however, an important final step for you to do. We are very fortunate to have top genetic researchers in our R haplogroup who will further examine your ftdna results to look for additional findings and group you, all for free. One of these men is Alex Williamson who runs the The Big Tree. I strongly recommend that you add your results to the Big Tree as Alex often finds SNPs and other anomalies not found by regular ftdna analysis. Here is the current R-Z164135 grouping from which you are downstream https://www.ytree.net/DisplayTree.php?blockID=3652& Here are Alex's instructions for including your results https://www.ytree.net/Instructions.html You basically download your zipped vcf file from your ftdna home page and then upload it to the Y-DNA data warehouse and they do the rest. https://ydna-warehouse.org/submit.php Now, if you prefer, as Administrators, we can submit your Big Y-700 to Alex Williamson's Big Tree for you, if you change your default access settings from "Limited" to "Advanced". Here are the instructions for doing that if you want our assistance. 1) You can access your "account settings" in the drop down menu under your picture, name, and kit # viewable on the top right corner of your home page. 2) Once you have accessed your "account settings" you will click on "Project Preferences" 3) Scroll down through your list of group projects until you find the one called "McMahon".. To the right of that listing will be two icons, Click on the one which looks like a pencil 4) A popup menu should appear entitled "Group Administrator Access: McMahon" Scroll down that page to where you see my name (Richard Raney) and Patrick McMahon's name. 5) Next to each of our names a drop down menu will allow you to change our access from "Limited" to "Advanced". Do that and then click on "Accept Project Preferences" at the bottom of the page. 6) Finally, notify us by email that you have changed your access settings and would like us to get your kit onto Alex Williamson's Big Tree. Thank you also for your interest in making a donation to the McMahon Surname Project. Though I do not know if the "Activity Feed" displays any differently in Australia than from what it does in the United States, there should be a very prominent blue button at the top of this page (the same page where you posted) marked "Donate". Press that and you can make your donation. Any contribution is greatly appreciated as we all benefit from advancing each other's kits. Sincerely, Rich Raney Co-Administrator McMahon Surname Project
Terry McMahon
November 17 @ 4:07am
Thanks Rich ... I have followed you advice and directions, replied to your personal email and have seen at Big Y, Terry's Kit entered (although not completed processing) and his 'predicted' Terminal SNP- currently slightly varied but awaiting further analysis. Thanks again for the help and MAC/MCMAHON project participation may lead us all to a shared space/place. Jane per Terry McMahon's Kit and with thanks to Terry.
Terry McMahon
November 18 @ 4:32am
Rich and Admins ... Jane van Woerkom-McMahon here via cousin Terry's kit IN36575 - tonight Australian time I spoke to cousin Terry McMahon - and his wife Liz. Both were pleased with the information provided re his Y700 results analysis and I also emailed information including, recent email thread communication from the project Admin/s to keep him informed. Ty again- Jane.
Richard Raney Richard Raney
Admin
July 15, 2019 @ 1:06am
Those who read this board will be happy to know that our Administrator, Patrick McMahon, has completed an update of membership results and analyses that is now posted in the "About Us" section of this board under the "Updates -Members Only" tab. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/mcmahon/about/updates You may download from his dropbox folder link which will take you to a page with a blue download button. This will load 5 charts into excel for your viewing pleasure. My favorite is the last chart entitled "tMRCA @ 50% for 67 mks" (time to most recent common ancestor in years @ 67 markers). This will help you see a statistical estimate in years subtracted from 1950 AD of which participants in this project may be most closely related to you.
2 Comments
Barry Logan
August 6, 2019 @ 2:15pm
Hi Richard, Could you please tell me if I could be in could be in one of the "Irish Sea" clusters. I am a Logan but a rumour has it that my great grandfather is really my grandfather and his name was Edwin Logan. Although I can't find any Logan in my DNA results. I was also told that McMahons' lived across the way from my grandmother but they were long gone before my dad was born in Fort Augustus PEI in 1942. No father was named on the birth cert but my grandmother told the midwife that her father fathered her child and all hush hush and never disclosed until I started digging.
Richard Raney
August 6, 2019 @ 5:02pm
Hi Barry, We will have to wait until Patrick officially assigns you to your proper subgroup listing to be sure, but from my cursory review of both your results and your matches, I'd say you are right to consider the McMahons who "lived across the way". Btw the "Irish Sea" category is clearly associated with the McMahons of Thomond whose ancestral origins are to be found in the areas in and around County Clare. They are alledgedly considered descendants of the great Brian Boru. http://www.peterspioneers.com/McMahonDNA.pdf
Terry McMahon
November 15 @ 12:20am
Barry good on you for looking to finding your personal story ...
Terry McMahon
November 15 @ 12:29am
PS Barry - Jane nee McMahon - manages this kit IN36575 - for Terry McMahon. Terry's and my gg grandfather are shared. He (ggg) has been a difficult 'character' for whom to find an exact/satisfactory (paper trail) birth record. I have almost 'got there' and FTDNA results Y111 and now Y700 have helped as I have no father or siblings or Y1C McMahon (Co Clare Clan) to test. However, Y-MCMAHON-2c1r has helped (he being my last surviving close Y McMAHON and GOOD FRIEND of my dec'd brother). Good Luck -Jane per Terry.