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McGeachie Surname DNA Project

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About us

The objectives of the McGeachie surname project are:
1) To determine the degree of relatedness among those with McGeachie and related surnames and to establish links with the ancestral homeland.  
2) To establish how closely associated surnames are linked.
3) To assist with paper genealogical research in breaking through “brick walls.”

All current or new project members are encouraged to upgrade their existing Y-DNA tests to 37, 67 or 111 STR markers, and should also consider SNP testing either through SNP Packs or the Big Y700 test. 
Please consult the project administrator Greg Wick for more information.


The following is a short primer in Y-DNA testing and what kind of results you can expect to receive from your test: 


There are two different, but related Y-DNA tests that are useful in genetic genealogy. STR testing is the recommended test for first-time testers. A 37 marker test will provide you with your unique haplotype, and will also give you a predicted haplogroup. Once you have tested, you will be able to join the surname project, and depending on your haplotype, you will be placed with your closest matches in a subgroup. If you have many close matches, you may want to consider upgrading to a 67 or 111 marker test in order to further define your relatedness with your matches.


The other Y-DNA testing method that is available is called SNP testing, either in individual SNPs, SNP packs, or the Big Y700 test. SNP testing confirms your haplogroup, which is a group of similar haplotypes that share a common ancestor. That common ancestor may have lived many thousands of years ago, and therefore is not really useful for genealogical research. However, with advanced SNP testing, you can discover your terminal haplogroup, (or your most recent common ancestor).


Our ancestors that first carried these unique mutations, or SNPs, lived many thousands of years ago, long before the advent of the written record or surnames. Since we don’t know their names, when they are discovered they are given alphanumeric names like U106 or M222. Each ancestor, or SNP, once discovered, is then added to a huge patrilineal family tree, called the phylogenetic tree. Each SNP represents an ancestor (or group of ancestors since each SNP is roughly calculated to occur over several generations) that lived and died sometime in the past, and their descendants carried their unique SNP mutations down to the present day.


For example, here is a SNP descendancy chart that visually explains the phylogenetic tree. http://www.ytree.net/DisplayTree.php?blockID=160. Their shared common ancestor is designated as SNP L1065, who is believed to have been alive circa 44 AD. All of the SNPs below him are his descendants, shown down to the present day. What this information does is to allow genetic genealogists the ability to very finely differentiate between similar haplotypes, sorting them into explicitly defined groups of related testers (haplogroups).

 

The SNP descendancy is displayed in short-hand on the results page in each subgroup heading. For example, one subgroup contains the following SNP hierarchy: R1b > L21 > DF13 > Z39589 > DF49 > Z2980 > Z2976 > DF23 > Z2961 > Z2956 > Z2965 > M222 > S658 > DF104 > DF105 > DF85 > S673 > S668 > DF97 > ZZ36 > FGC19851. R1b is estimated to have lived circa 18,500 years ago, or circa 16,550 BC. SNP L21 is estimated to have lived circa 2587 BC. SNP DF13 is estimated to have lived circa 2145 BC. SNP DF49 is estimated to have lived circa 1918 BC. SNP M222 is estimated to have lived circa 139 BC in Ireland. SNP DF105 is estimated to have been alive circa 390 AD. SNP DF85 is estimated to have been alive circa 519 AD, and their terminal SNP FGC19851 is estimated to have been alive circa 924 AD. 


All of the members in this subgroup are either proven through SNP testing or determined by STR matching to descend from the same common ancestor. Further SNP testing via the Big Y700 test will provide more answers, and more shared SNPs (ancestors) will soon be discovered. Genetic genealogy is still a very new science, and you can be part of the discovery process by participating in Y-DNA SNP testing. Your terminal SNP is your last known shared ancestor with another tester, and will change as more men are tested and more variant SNPs are discovered and named.