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mtDNA L2a1

Africa, the Mediterranean, Iberia, the Caribbean, the Americas and Beyond
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Debra Katz Debra Katz
January 6, 2016 @ 10:26am
TWO UPDATES (June 13, 2018): 1) GROUP CHART--Earlier this month I sent out a link to the latest updated group chart via email to all group members as of that time. If you did not receive it, holler! ( dnadeb@gmail.com ) Many more new people have been added since last September! I will in the year ahead be sending out a word document with analysis on times to common ancestors and best "theories" for common ancestral migration stories...i.e. how we all fit together! Have further corrections? Let me know and they'll appear in the next update. 2) YOUR SETTINGS---As of late May, to comply with new European privacy rules, FTDNA no longer picks the default settings for privacy and access to your account. So you need to do this yourself...or in most cases, I will have no access, which means I can't really help you or incorporate you into the group analysis. (Under no conditions can I get your password or change your account in any way, I assure you!) If you haven't already done so, please go to Manage Personal Preferences on your home dashboard page and: a) under "Privacy & Sharing" mark the box to "opt in" for coding region sharing b) under "Project Preferences" , for this group set it to "Limited Access" to your account. Questions? I'm here to answer: dnadeb@gmail.com
Debra Katz
September 28, 2017 @ 8:48pm
Bear with me, Annette...I will be getting more to you on that point...but for now I can say that the people in your haplogroup "subclade" are the ones whose stories are most relevant to yours. You are not likely to find a named common ancestor with people unless both you and they have done your genealogies back several centuries or more. But you will find out the general history and migration of your maternal line.
Debra Katz
November 17, 2017 @ 12:28am
Marcio...it must have gone to your spam file (it was a "bulk" email to all group members so sometimes those get sidelined)...I'll resend tomorrow.
Debra Katz
January 3, 2018 @ 4:00pm
Hi, Ronnie! No the chart I reference above is not on this site...FTDNA automatically generates the results charts on this group site and for me, they are never complete or detailed enough so I keep a master chart independently. I sent an email to all in the group with a link to my chart---that email goes to whatever email address you have listed on your (Jeanne's) FTDNA account. I'm happy to send the link again, along with our email exchange from September about this chart.
William Marshall
June 16 @ 4:57pm
Hi Debra! Please send me an undated version. I checked my spam file and updated my Privacy & Sharing opt. a few weeks ago. Thank you for everything you and your colleagues do for L2a1 group.
Alyse Radenovic Alyse Radenovic
November 10, 2017 @ 8:21am
My maternal grandmother, Selma Beatrice (Tzima Tzipora) Friedman Flasterstein, born in Brooklyn, NY to Sarah Parmer and Samuel Louis Friedman (*Gelman), married Samuel Flasterstein
Desiree Gil
October 18 @ 1:24pm
Alyse, I definitely notice a family resemblance with my family. I've got the same high cheek bones and eyes. Do you have a family tree online?
Climmie Ratliff Climmie Ratliff
August 3 @ 3:20pm
Hello Family, thanks for the invite. My name is Clim and I am L2a1a2. My maternal grandmother's family has been living in Louisiana along the Mississippi River as long as anyone remembers. We are descended from enslaved Africans and worked on various cotton plantations in Louisiana. My profile picture is that of my 94 year old grandmother Landella. I thank God that she is still with us in the land of the living. Please let me know if you have any questions. Also, could someone explain the origin of L2a1?
Dona Gray (White)
September 24 @ 5:28pm
Hi Climmie, I too am haplogroup L2a1a2. Glad you are a part of this group!
Eneida Headley Eneida Headley
September 23 @ 7:29pm
Are you my relative? Tired but still searching...
June 12 @ 2:58pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17rodNu0_rg takes time to understand subtitle
June 15 @ 7:58pm
because I jew from Algeria,and it is a victory that in Algeria speaks about the jews
Michael Marcus
August 29 @ 7:04am
Chère "cousine" Nadia Je voudrais vous remercier pour le film. Je l'ai vu ce matin. La deuxième partie est bien meilleure que la première! Le film dans son ensemble est plein d’affirmations et de stéréotypes absurdes sur les Juifs que l’on trouve non seulement au Maghreb mais ailleurs. D'autre part, il attire l'attention sur une connexion nord-africaine L2xxx. MAIS, 3000 ans pour "Juifs" à Tamentite n'est pas croyable. Il est vrai que le lieu etait un entrepôt commercial. Les relations commerciales médiévales entre le Sahara, le Maghreb et l'Europe méditerranéenne sont bien mieux connues et documentées. D'autre part, il est très intéressant d'entendre parler du rôle des juifs dans la musique. J'ai passé deux ans au Maroc et j'ai connu beaucoup de musulmans dont les familles sont originaires de Tlemcen. Ils m'ont dit les mêmes choses sur l'importance des juifs dans la musique andalouse. I would like to thank you for the film. I viewed it this morning. The second part is much better than the first! The film as a whole is full of nonsensical assertions and stereotypes about Jews that one finds not only in the Maghreb but elsewhere. On the other hand, it draws attention to a North African L2xxx connection. BUT, 3000 years for "Jews" in Tamentit Is not believable. It is true that the place was a trade entrepot. Medieval trade connections between the Sahara, Maghreb and Mediterranean Europe are much better known and documented. On the other hand, it was very interesting to hear about the role of Jews in music. I spent two years in eastern Morocco and was acquainted with many Muslims whose families originated in Tlemcen. They told me the same things about the importance of Jews in Andalusian music.
September 8 @ 8:05pm
C est avec plaisirs Michael
Syble Leyanna Syble Leyanna has a question!
December 29, 2017 @ 4:27pm
So what does it mean when the genetic distance is a 2 or 3? How many generations back for each?
Debra Katz
January 3, 2018 @ 4:06pm
Unfortunately, it is not so simple...there isn't a perfect correlation between numbers of mutations and genetic distance. One big factor is exactly which mutation(s) are involved as some spots mutate much more easily/rapidly than others. A person with a GD 3 from you might be more closely related than one with a GD 2! Plus, different experts disagree on what rates of mutation to use under what circumstances. That's why it's taking me awhile to get back to everyone with estimates of likely times to common ancestors, because many factors need to be weighed. A very general rule of thumb is that two people who are exact matches have a common ancestor within about 300 years or LESS....a mutation might add on to that 300 years....but it easily could have happened in the last generation or two. (i.e. we have several folks in our group where there is a GD of 1 between a parent and child!)
Linda Ruff
April 28 @ 7:14am
My mom tested with 23andme and her haplogroup is L2a1. I test with 23andme and ftDNA and my haplogroup group is L2a1f.Should I test my mom with ftDNA also to be sure that she is not L2a1f?
Debra Katz
May 9 @ 2:38pm
Your mom basically HAS to be L2a1f, or else she is not your biological mother....23andMe doesn't do the full mtdna sequence, so their haplogroup designation isn't always as specific. Are you saying that you WERE called out as L2a1f at 23andMe but your mom wasn't? In that case, you might contact 23andMe on your mom's account and ask... the mutation (SNP) 5581G is the one that marks the "f" subgroup...so they can probably verify if your mom has that SNP.
April 4 @ 6:05am
Good morning just received my mtdna full sequence I am L2a1f.. I am still trying to understand everything I am from Pennsylvania
Emad Uddin Alnasser Emad Uddin Alnasser
April 3 @ 5:33am
HI every one , I am emad from Jordan My mtDNA is L2a1-G143A-T16189C!
Kellie  Cervero Kellie Cervero
December 21, 2017 @ 7:09pm
I am excited to have just received my mtdna full sequence results. I am L2a1f2.
teneshia Baker-Lane
February 26 @ 11:16pm
Hi, I am L2a1f
Nancy Franklin
March 10 @ 1:24am
Hello Kellie.
Bernette Ford Bernette Ford has a question!
February 8, 2018 @ 7:12am
Hi Debra, Have been pretty silent after knee replacement in September, but I never received the link to the chart. Feeling fine now. Please resend. Thanks!
Debra Katz
February 11, 2018 @ 4:18pm
Will do---link below. I plan to update this within a month or so as we've gotten lots of new input.
Debra Katz
February 11, 2018 @ 4:19pm
Bernette Ford
February 12, 2018 @ 6:42am
Got it, thanks Debra!
Susan Thompson Susan Thompson
January 24, 2018 @ 2:53am
Hi, I’d like to know how to update the database with my maternal surname. I’ve just discovered it is Santillan. I was adopted in Los Angeles in .December, 1961. Hispanic mother; Irish father.
Debra Katz
January 25, 2018 @ 7:24pm
I sent you an email directly about all this...let me know if you still have questions. And congratulations on discovering Mama Santillan!