Kincaid

I am working with an American Lawyer who is part of the Lennox Clan. He has got an agreement from support from that clan and he says from the Kincaid clan. He has been helping trying to get some kind of insurance to cover indemnity, so far without success. He discovered that if we can have people live on the site for the next ten or twelve years then we can own if for nothing. It could make getting funding difficult. He has another way which involves taking the castle to Parliament which is much more expensive but expedient. There is also a website that is designed to help guide with projects like this. The first step is the steering committee. Are you both willing to be a part of this? Then I can get my skates on.

Also do you guys have twitter accounts? I started one for Lennox Castle but didn't know what to say. Happy to chat online and repost from you guys to get more followers. Don we were going down the not for profit line as it is easier to get funding this way, but part of my concept was to make a conference room/ballroom for Gatherings to be held. An early step is to sure up some walls. There may be a lot of paperwork before that.

So my lawyer friend has got some quotes for indemnity insurance, in case a wall falls. He will read through this week to ensure it does what it should. Once he decides it's okay, it's time for me to start committing time to the project. Might also need a little help covering the insurance. It looks like about 350 pounds a year which is pretty reasonable. Anyone up to help?

Kathryn, my husband and I will be traveling in Scotland in May 2020, and I definitely plan on seeing Lennox Castle, probably staying in Kincaid Hotel. Anything I need to know about finding or accessing the site? I would love to see the castle restored.

I should also add that King James II, son of James I and Joan Beaufort, married Mary of Guelders in 1449. She was the daughter of the Duke of Guelders (which included most of present Gelderland, Netherlands). It is no coincidence that John Kincaid's wife nursed her second son and that John Kincaid rose to be Keeper of Linlithgow Palace when she was Regent of Scotland. When in a foreign land one naturally surround themselves with their own people. I think that is why the Kincaids emerged in Scotland with Joan Beaufort and rose rapidly in power with Mary of Guelders.

A lot of what I have to say on the Gelderland connection can be found in an article on my kyncades.org website: http://kyncades.org/GelderlandDna.pdf .

Very interesting Peter, Sinclairs and Kincaid split at S5235 but seem to have rubbed elbows over the years.William Sinclair was given in trade Ravenscraig Castle home to Mary of Guelders , and King James was close to the Sinclairs. We seem to have traveled parallel to one another ending up in the same place.

Yes, I think they knew their Frankish origins and continued to intertwine over the centuries with other Frankish / Norman families. Even in Ireland the Sinclairs of Holyhill were joined with the Kincaids of Holyhill and adjacent townlands.

Bear in mind the R-FGC12993 is estimated by Dr. McDonald to have occurred around 345 A.D and the parent R-S5245 mutation around 76 A.D. The people identified as Franks were first recorded as such in 289 A.D. - with the Chamavi being first recorded at that time as one of the Franks. As one can see from Wikipedia other tribes identified as Franks were the Bructeri (first noted as such 307 A.D.), Chattuarii (likewise 306-315 A.D.), Salii (357 A.D.), and the Amsivarii & Tubantes (364-375 A.D.). By then the Frisi have disappeared due to migration to Denmark and Britain - necessitated by the continual rise in sea levels from about 250 A.D. Many probably merged with the other local tribes. It seems quite logical that Franks emerged because many from the coastal tribes merged with the Chamavi. The Chauci are widely regarded to be one of the tribes that became the Saxons. We descend from a R-L48 person and the Saxons are considered to be more of a R-L47 tribe. Some Jutes repopulated the flooded coastal area but archeaology pointed more to the Saxons. These tribes were very territorial and we have records of most of their movements during the Roman period. Until we get more ancient DNA samples that changes the picture in a big way, it really looks like Group A Kincaids were from the original Franks and the Frenckincks did not stray too far from their ancestral home.

No. The size of the yellow dots indicates the number of people with the exact str results. If this was the case, then I could pay for 50 close relatives of mine to be tested and everyone would think our line founded the Kincaids. The reference is the Z346 point. Since A321 is a sub group of Z346, then we had to be migrating from that direction. Then one asks what point represents the least number of mutations for everyone. The 213942 point represents the best starting point for everyone. We know my side (57467) is Kincaid A321 and your side (1427) is Kincaid A321 so why would anyone think 2563 represents the Kincaid patriarch when this clearly represents one of your close ancestors. This is the Kincaid of Baronscourt founder (who tradition has was a Kincaid of Auchenreoch) not the markers of the first Kincaid.

DNA #213942 is a descendant of Robert Kinkade/Mary Bowman who died in Hardin County, KY.

Which does not imply that everyone in the project descends from Robert Kinkade and Mary Bowman. All this means is that sample 213942 carries the same str values in the first 67 markers as the original Group A Kincaid. This person may have mutations in the 68-111 panel (or other non tested strs) that will distinguish him from the Kincaid founder and even Robert Kinkade of Hardin County's str values.