G-U1 Y-DNA

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Carl Frederick Carl Frederick has a question!
April 10 @ 10:36am
FTDNA has found a match for me on my paternal side. I am Haplo G-U1but the match is Haplo I-M170. The match is 0 distance from me. The match is no longer available at his email address so I may never find any info from him. My question is how is this possible?
Roy Chandler
April 13 @ 10:22am
Carl, the match you refer to is GD 0 match at 12 markers which illustrates the low value to be placed upon 12 markers for genealogical work. You agree at 12 markers perfectly, but your markers diverge as you add markers. He does not appear as a match for you at either 25 or 37 markers so the differences exceed 2 at 25 and 4 at 37. Actually, you have 20 matches in total at 12 markers and only 4 are haplogroup G and 16 are haplogroup I. Generally, you should start looking for genealogical significance of matches at 37 markers or above. -- Roy
Carl Frederick
May 5 @ 5:48am
Roy - when reading the Big Y will i find matches to other HGs? Insignificant, but how could this be? As I learn about HG G i am almost impressed that it has survived in the big picture. Does it mutate “easier” than other groups?
Roy Chandler
May 26 @ 12:09pm
Carl - the Big Y considers hundreds of STR markers and works to define your real terminal haplogroup, so any Big Y matches you have will be close neighbors to you in the genetic tree, certainly within the broad haplogroup G. With regard to your second question, I haven't seen any statistics on relative probability of mutation in the various haplogroups, so I cannot comment on that. -- Roy
Eero Jukola Eero Jukola
October 16 @ 1:41am
Did anyone test MyTrueancestry site? Did the site give any real information or just for fun?
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Claude Herbet
May 2 @ 10:06am
Hi John, does MyTrueancestry specify which are the SNP number of G2 from Crypta Balbi, Rome and Villa Magna, Rome? In one of these studies haplogroup X was found in Vagnari Italy during the Imperial Roman period. Haplogroup X is my mitocondrial DNA.
John Rainey
May 9 @ 7:54pm
Hi, Claude. Yes. My Crypta Balbi match is R55 and Villa Magna is 108, both G2. I am not certain how to upload to these posts or I would.
William Hill
May 24 @ 4:13pm
It is curious you both are in Northern Italy per above, likewise myself, Martin, and Martinez are between you.
William Hill
May 24 @ 4:29pm
As late as 972, the Saracens controlled the Great St. Bernard Pass, near Aosta https://archive.aramcoworld.com/issue/200905/the.saracens.of.st.tropez.htm
Alain Verschaeren Alain Verschaeren
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January 21 @ 2:38pm
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KAUFFMANN Jean Guy
April 17 @ 6:08am
Bonjour Alain, Ray, Roy et tous les membres du projet. Je viens de commander un Big Y-700, j'espère pouvoir contribuer à faire avancer l'étude ADN Y G-U1 et notamment G FGC21495. Bonne journée.
Roy Chandler
April 18 @ 11:59am
Jean-Guy KAUFFMANN, thanks for helping to advance the G-U1 haplotree! I look forward to seeing your Big Y result. --Regards, Roy
Warren Frederick Warren Frederick has a question!
February 11 @ 4:44pm
Roy -- I am a sibling of Carl Frederick. You indicate Carl has a large number of variances. Must I do the Big-Y to prove those variances are in my family? or they are variances that confused G and Big-Y only for my brother.
Roy Chandler
April 4 @ 3:05pm
Warren, I apologize for not responding sooner to your question. I have not been able to spend much time on the activity feed for the project. As I explained to Carl via email, his 42 private variants are unique among FTDNA testers at this point. It is quite likely that any full sibling of Carl will share most of those private variants with him. If so and if a Big Y test was taken, then those shared private variants would be given names and placed on the official haplotree. This would create a new branch below your current haplogroup G-Z44222 that would be for all practical purposes a family clade for you and your siblings. In any case, it will further the knowledge we have in your section of the haplotree. A Big Y test by a close relative is the most direct way to turn these private variants into named SNPs, but you won't immediately know more about how you relate to other project members because you will still be separated from them by a large number of named variants. In this case, it generally will require a Big Y test by a close relative of Carl, plus a Big Y from a more distant relative (e.g., third or fourth cousin) to create some branching. Another alternative is to simply wait for others to test hoping they will eventually share some of those private variants with Carl, but often that can be a long wait. --Regards, Roy
William Hill William Hill
December 7 @ 4:10pm
G Tribe (academic research collective) is basically saying Hap G is rooted in the Saracens of the Sinai, NW Arabia, etc. Note, this is a specific historical group, not the broader term of the middle ages. This is interesting for our subgroup, as in 672 AD 60,000-80,000 Saracens were defeated in Tours, France, by Charles Martel. https://www.facebook.com/GM201Haplogroup/
Alain Verschaeren Alain Verschaeren
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September 16, 2018 @ 5:52pm
An update on the L1263 part of the tree. Mr George's result indicate he is negative for Z38856 which was previously shared by all Z38846 testers. This therefore now becomes an intermediate subgroup for which only Mr George is negative
Kostadin Tonev
September 17, 2018 @ 7:57am
Dear Alain, thank you for the updated G-U1 status diagram, it is very informative, including its dynamics in time. I can only imagine how much work is underlying it. Do you think that there are enough samples to report the individual Balkan countries in future?
Alain Verschaeren
September 17, 2018 @ 4:42pm
We only have a few Balkan samples, but in future as we identify subgroups closer to the present day we should be able to get a bit more precise
Byron Renner
November 16 @ 3:03pm
Alain, As a positive member of Z38856, but Negative on both Z38853 and Z43938; has anything new developed this last year for the above chart? ie. does Z38856 have any additional subgroups to test for? Thanks!
Alain Verschaeren
November 18 @ 2:49pm
Hi Byron, there have been quite a few (8 according to the ISOGG tree) people with Z38856* tests but so far no new confirmed subgroups (as in, more than one person sharing a mutation) have been identified. https://isogg.org/tree/index.html
Simone Marchegiani Simone Marchegiani
October 18 @ 7:24am
Eero Jukola poi dicono anche che ci sono Mummie Egizie del tardo periodo antico Egitto che mi sono vicine ma l'aplogrupp y è J2b1-M205 invece io sono Gu1
Simone Marchegiani Simone Marchegiani
October 18 @ 7:21am
Eero Jukola secondo questo sito a Cordoba in Spagna ci sono scheletri del 1050 d.c. che mi sono vicini
Simone Marchegiani Simone Marchegiani
October 18 @ 7:17am
Eero Jukola poi mi dice che tra gli scheletri antichi a cui è stato fatto il test del dna, ci sono questi evidenziati in rosso che si avvicinano più di tutti al mio dna. La distanza genetica misura quanto sei vicino a un determinato campione. 10 significa che questa è la tua antenata antica 20 significa che questo fa parte del tuo collegamento ancestrale 30 significa possibilmente correlato ai tuoi antenati
Simone Marchegiani Simone Marchegiani
October 18 @ 7:12am
Eero Jukola questa è la prima cosa che esce fuori dai miei dati. Dice che sono molto vicino al Greco Antico