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Following the links from the Family Tree DNA Project site to YSearch at http://www.ysearch.org/ allowed me to review some historical facts about the people that match my Y-DNA exactly. Although it’s very early in this research and based, so far, on only partial results, here are some initial observations:
1. For the Doreleyers surname and two other surnames with matching Y-DNA, information is available from FT-DNA about where ancestors lived and in what year. These three locations fall on a straight line from Italy to the Netherlands.
2. For three other people with matching Y-DNA, family background was indicated in their background provided via the FT-DNA Project. The three locations also run in a straight line, this time from Syria through Bulgaria to Bohemia (Czech Republic).
3. I placed the six locations on a map, indicating the locations under item 1 as red triangles and those under item 2 as blue triangles. If we were to consider this a scatter plot, a straight line could be drawn from Syria all the way to the Netherlands. It must be cautioned that no date information is available at this time for the blue triangles, preventing me from concluding that they may represent an earlier stage in a migratory pattern from the Middle-East to North-West Europe.
4. Even this very early pattern may shed some light about where the Doreleyers came from prior to 1600 in the Netherlands. I’m beginning to believe it’s NOT necessarily France or Spain, as has been discussed for many years among interested Doreleyers participants. I may be going out on a limb here, but my early bet is on exactly the path indicated on this early chart. Unfortunately, I cannot copy the map onto this website, but I could email it to anyone interested.
5. According to the Genographic Project, our Haplogroup J2 (M172) is rare in Europe outside of the Mediterranean area. If that’s so, our ancestors must have been in the minority during their voyage. What it could also mean is that anyone within this Haplogroup that is able to place their ancestry in the general areas already indicated on my map, could be “closely” related, that is, within the period 8000 BC to 1650 AD. It would be very interesting to find more dots to plot on this map!
6. The strategy for further research? First of all, to seek cooperation of already identified perfect Y-DNA matches to dig up ancestral information and transfer that along with their DNA results to the FT-DNA Project. Second, to try and have everyone else within Haplogroup J2 (M172) to transfer their results to the FT-DNA project to generate more and more perfect matches. Many people will have some records about the date and places where their ancestors lived. These locations would represent additional points on our map and dates would help establish some migration pattern.
1. For the Doreleyers surname and two other surnames with matching Y-DNA, information is available from FT-DNA about where ancestors lived and in what year. These three locations fall on a straight line from Italy to the Netherlands.
2. For three other people with matching Y-DNA, family background was indicated in their background provided via the FT-DNA Project. The three locations also run in a straight line, this time from Syria through Bulgaria to Bohemia (Czech Republic).
3. I placed the six locations on a map, indicating the locations under item 1 as red triangles and those under item 2 as blue triangles. If we were to consider this a scatter plot, a straight line could be drawn from Syria all the way to the Netherlands. It must be cautioned that no date information is available at this time for the blue triangles, preventing me from concluding that they may represent an earlier stage in a migratory pattern from the Middle-East to North-West Europe.
4. Even this very early pattern may shed some light about where the Doreleyers came from prior to 1600 in the Netherlands. I’m beginning to believe it’s NOT necessarily France or Spain, as has been discussed for many years among interested Doreleyers participants. I may be going out on a limb here, but my early bet is on exactly the path indicated on this early chart. Unfortunately, I cannot copy the map onto this website, but I could email it to anyone interested.
5. According to the Genographic Project, our Haplogroup J2 (M172) is rare in Europe outside of the Mediterranean area. If that’s so, our ancestors must have been in the minority during their voyage. What it could also mean is that anyone within this Haplogroup that is able to place their ancestry in the general areas already indicated on my map, could be “closely” related, that is, within the period 8000 BC to 1650 AD. It would be very interesting to find more dots to plot on this map!
6. The strategy for further research? First of all, to seek cooperation of already identified perfect Y-DNA matches to dig up ancestral information and transfer that along with their DNA results to the FT-DNA Project. Second, to try and have everyone else within Haplogroup J2 (M172) to transfer their results to the FT-DNA project to generate more and more perfect matches. Many people will have some records about the date and places where their ancestors lived. These locations would represent additional points on our map and dates would help establish some migration pattern.