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The Trinder surname is considered to be of Anglo-Saxon origin and is probably an occupational name for a (wool or cotton) spinner and comes from the large wheel that is a feature of the many different types of spinning wheels.  

A Dictionary of Surnames (Hanks & Hodges, 1988) says:

Trinder, English occupational name for a braider or a spinner from an ancient derivative of ME [Middle English] trend(en) to twist,plait.  OE [old English] trendan to turn around, roll.

Ref: Hanks, P. & Hodges, F., A Dictionary of Surnames, 1988, OUP see p541

An alternative but associated theme is that the name comes from a "maker of trindles" with trindles being the "felloes of a wheel". 

Halliwell in his 1852 Dictionary of Archaic and Provincial Words etc has these definitions

·        TRINDLE. A wheel. Derb. [Derbyshire]

·        TRINDLES. (1) The dung of goats, &c. (2) The felloes of a wheel. North. [Northamptonshire]

·        TRINDLE-TAIL. A species of dog.  (I guess it has a curly tail. GVB)

Ref: Halliwell, J.O. 1852 Dictionary of Archaic and Provincial Words, Obsolete Phrases, Proverbs,and Ancient Customs, From The Fourteenth Century" in two volumes.  Vol I. A – I, VOL II. J – Z. (for private circulation only) see Vol. II page 889

Webster’s 1945 version is as follows -

·        Trindle, n.Same as Trundle (p1835)

·        Trundle, v.t.; trundled, pt., pp.: trundling, ppr. [Origin, obscure from an Anglo-Saxon verb trindan, to roll, akin to tryndel, acircle

·        Trundle, n, [ Also spelt trendletrindle, akin to AS. Tryndel, a circle]

Ref: Webster, Noel et al 1945 Webster’s New Twentieth Century Dictionary of the English Language (unabridged) etc etc pp 1835 & 1843/1844

Unfortunately, Helliwell (1852) does not include a definition for felloe (possibly because the word was still in use), but Webster(1945) has this to say

·        Felloe, n.see Felly

Then

·        Felly, felloe, n. 1.  One of the curved pieces of wood, which when joined together by dowel pins, form the circumference or circular rim of a wheel into which the spokes are fitted. 2. The rim of a wheel

Ref: Webster, Noel et al 1945 Webster’s New Twentieth Century Dictionary of the English Language(unabridged) etc etc p645.

Most wheel designs used several short felloes per wheel, with each felloe being cut to shape rather than being bent.  However, sometimes there were only two felloes per wheel, with each of them made of a long piece of wood bent into a semicircular shape.  In the case of carriage or wagon and similar wheels an iron rim was often fitted onto the outside of the felloes.

Some writers state that the term is derived from the Olde English pre 7th Century trendan, to turn round, roll and/or Middle English trend(en),to twist. Trendelyn, as with a round thynge, giving as their source a medieval dictionary – unfortunately I have not yet found that source.

Trindade as a surname - has been suggested to me as being a Portuguese equivalent.

A Dictionary of Surnames (Hanks & Hodges, 1988) says:

·        Trindade, Portuguese: religious by-name adopted in honour of the Holy Trinity, and given in particular to children born on Trinity Sunday.  The name is from the Portuguese trindade trinity (LL trinitase, gen, trinitatis, a derivative of tres three)

Ref: Hanks, P. & Hodges, F., A Dictionary of Surnames, 1988, OUP see p541

While Trindade is certainly Portuguese, it seems to have been a modern introduction into the UK. Prior to and including the 1911 Census, there are only two mentions of the name in the various census returns – these are

1.       in the 1881 Census where Lowrence M Trindade, born in Goa and a Portuguese subject, aged 31, a band member on HMS Evryalus.

2.       In the 1861 census, where Charles Trindade, born in Barking, Essex, aged 4 years was the grandson of Susan (indecipherable surname) age 76, the widow of a labourer.  There are no other household members recorded.  Presumably, Susan’s daughter had married a Portuguese man with the Trindade name.

The earliest Trindade life event in the UK recorded in civil records are

·        Births – A total of 96 with the first in 1962 with 54 of those births taking place in the 21st C.

·        Marriages – A total of 62 with the first in 1963. 

·        Deaths – A total of 9 with the first in 1872,with the next not being recorded until 1971

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TABLE OF OCCURRENCES OF TRINDER, TRINDLE ETC SURNAMES IN THE UK CENSUS RETURNS

CENSUS YEAR

Number of people recorded with that surname in that year

Trinder

Trynder

Trindle

Tryndle

Trind

Trinde

Trindes

Trindel

Trindell

Trendle

Trendal

Trendel

Trendall

Trendell

Trindal

Trindall

Trund

Trundle

Tryndall

Trindade

1841

600

0

18

0

0

1

0

1

17

16

5

2

63

49

10

41

1

177

0

0

1851

716

0

56

0

7

0

2

2

11

20

2

0

59

82

0

25

0

169

0

0

1861

655

0

27

0

0

0

0

1

19

16

5

7

98

29

0

32

0

181

0

1

1871

940

0

33

0

1

5

0

1

25

29

4

2

87

111

0

43

0

241

0

0

1881

1185

14

26

14

7

0

0

1

22

18

11

0

112

164

6

31

0

289

0

1

1891

1206

1

40

1

0

0

0

7

15

37

0

4

180

135

2

66

0

289

0

0

1901

1553

0

24

0

1

0

0

0

26

35

6

1

147

196

0

50

0

347

3

0

1911

1776

0

30

0

0

0

1

0

11

44

0

2

177

248

0

56

8

465

0

0

TOTAL

8631

15

254

15

16

6

3

13

146

215

33

23

923

1014

18

344

9

2158

3

2

Table based on the census returns for 1891 England, Wales & Scotland (1841-1901) and England and Wales 1911

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TRINDER LIFE EVENTS 1841-2005:

 Civil Registrations: England & Wales

Period

number

From

To

BIRTHS

DEATHS

MARRIAGES

1840

1849

255

163

116

1850

1859

302

191

121

1860

1869

346

184

151

1870

1879

373

211

186

1880

1889

405

207

184

1890

1899

454

231

235

1900

1909

455

219

247

1910

1919

376

241

298

1920

1929

404

234

307

1930

1939

279

239

347

1940

1949

344

244

349

1950

1959

320

247

320

1960

1969

389

259

337

1970

1979

317

264

320

1980

1989

312

258

340

1990

1999

380

256

247

2000

2005

251

187

131

England & Wales Births 1837-2006

England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005


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Here is a similar compilation of Trindle life events from England & Wales civil registration indices.

Clearly the number of Trindle families in England & Wales was much lower than the number of Trinder families

TRINDLE LIFE EVENTS 1841-2005:

 Civil Registrations: England & Wales

Period

number

From

To

BIRTHS

DEATHS

MARRIAGES

1840

1849

3

3

1

1850

1859

2

6

3

1860

1869

9

7

3

1870

1879

8

7

2

1880

1889

6

11

2

1890

1899

8

1

3

1900

1909

5

2

6

1910

1919

1

6

2

1920

1929

8

7

4

1930

1939

4

2

2

1940

1949

4

2

6

1950

1959

5

5

10

1960

1969

8

3

3

1970

1979

1

5

8

1980

1989

4

3

8

1990

1999

3

4

3

2000

2005

2

2

2

England & Wales Births 1837-2006

England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005