Sproul Project

Descendants of Walter Spreull, Lord of Cauldhame, in the shire of Dumbarton
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Joseph Sprowl Joseph Sprowl
July 18, 2019 @ 1:38pm
IMPORTANT UPDATE! ALL MEMBERS PLEASE READ!! The European Union's General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) for data privacy went into force on 25 May 2018 and because of this all of our members need to update their personal account settings as soon as possible. To update your personal account settings please open your "myFTDNA" page. In the "Your Account" box at the upper left side please click on "Manage Personal Information." This will open a page divided into five sections all of which you should review. I. The first section is "Account Information" with three sub-sections: Contact Information, Change Password, and Beneficiary. Contact Information: Please confirm that the full name of the person who provided the sample for the DNA testing under this kit number is correct. If the kit has a kit manager (who should also be the kit's Beneficiary, see below) the rest of the contact details should be those of the person with whom FTDNA will need to stay in touch (street address, telephone number, and email address). Change Password: This is where you can change your password whenever you wish to do so. Beneficiary: All you need is the following information for your beneficiary (for most of us it is a spouse or child): Name, email address, telephone number. There is even a button to generate a form including the above information, and spaces to sign and notarize it, and the signed document can be included with your other important documents, wherever you keep them. Should the unthinkable happen, and you are unable to manage your account, having these fields filled in will allow the person you designated to take up management of the account, which includes the ability to order additional tests from whatever DNA sample remains in storage. II. The second section is "Genealogy" where you can fill in the fields with whatever details you know. III. The third section is "Privacy & Sharing" which has been changed to comply with the new EU law. This section has four sub-sections which require you to make selections: Matching Preferences, Origin Sharing, Family Tree Sharing, and Project Sharing. Matching Preferences: You must chose to participate in matching and you must select the level of matching you prefer. In order to compare your test results to FTDNA's entire database rather than limit it to just our project's database you should select "All Levels" to enhance your research. This setting places your yDNA and/or mtDNA results on the test results pages which is very helpful to our project. Origin Sharing: You must chose to share your ancestral origins. Please "opt in" to enhance your research. Family Tree Sharing: You must chose a level of sharing of your family tree. The best level for research purposes is "Public." Project Sharing: You must chose a level of sharing for both "Group Project Profile" and "Coding Region Sharing." Please "opt in" to both to enhance your research. IV. The fourth section is "Project Preferences." To comply with the EU's new law FTDNA has had to institute three levels of administrator access. You must select an access level for each project of which you are a member.* In the order of restrictiveness these levels are: "Minimum" Which FTDNA describes as: "... the default access level and the most limited. This access level permits the Group Administrator or co-administrator to access project administration tools that allow him or her to view certain results in relation to how you match other project members; however, this access level does not allow the administrator to visit your "myFTDNA" pages." [Please note that this setting is too restrictive and will hinder our admin team members trying to help you derive the maximum benefit from your genetic testing for which we must be able to visit a member's "myFTDNA" page. If you have only taken the Family Finder test this setting locks you out of our project totally!] "Limited" Which FTDNA describes as: "... permits the Group Administrator or co-administrator to visit and view certain information on your "myFTDNA" pages in order to assist with kit management and to better facilitate project research. Additionally, this access level includes all of the permissions granted with the Minimum level." "Advanced" Which FTDNA describes as: "permits the Group Administrator or co-administrator to visit, view, and modify certain information on your myFTDNA pages in order to assist with kit management and better facilitate project research. Additionally, this access level includes all of the permissions granted with the Limited Access level. The Advanced level is designed to allow an individual administrator to fully manage a project member’s kit and function on their behalf. This includes ordering products and modifying information with the exceptions of the primary email address and project preferences for other Group Projects." Please go to your "myFTDNA" page toolbar "Resources" and from the drop down menu select "Learning Center." Under "Group Administration" scroll down to "Group Administrator Access Levels and Permissions" to see the Limited Access and Advanced Access table for complete details. [*NOTE: There is a short-cut to "Project Preferences" -- go to your "myFTDNA" page, hover the cursor over your name in the upper right, and click on "Account Settings." Then click on "Project Preferences." Please give the admins in all of your projects at least "Limited" access if not "Advanced" access.] V. The fifth section is "Notification Preferences." This section has five sub-sections which require you to make selections: Family Finder, mtDNA, yDNA, Big Y-700, and Projects thus allowing you to limit how many emails you receive on these subjects from FTDNA. This concludes what you need to review in relation to the new EU law. Now a more general overview of our project -- Genetic Genealogy testing at FTDNA. If you have: One, taken the "Big Y-700" Next Generation Sequencing test (yDNA SNPs & STRs); Two, tested 111 yDNA STR markers; Three, taken the Family Finder test -- autosomal block DNA with X-chromosome (atDNA); Four, taken the mtDNAFullSequence test ... you have tested the maximum level of all the types of DNA testing that FTDNA offers. Once you have finished all your testing please consider contributing to our project's General Fund to help others start their journey into genetic genealogy or expand their previous testing. We have had so many scholarship requests that our project's General Fund is nearly empty. With the usual round of International Genetic Genealogy conferences we are certain to have more requests for financial help to test. We shall need donations sufficient to handle a minimum of one ySNP test ($39 USD), one 12 yDNA STR marker test ($59 USD), one ySNP Pack test ($119 USD), and one Big Y-700 test ($649 USD). Thank you for your continued generous support in growing the only project in the world dedicated to the study of the Sproul lineages. Given the expense of genetic genealogy testing, the admin team of this project only recommends that our members order a test if they can afford to do so and hopefully place their test orders during a sale to reduce the cost to themselves. If you are a man whose only yDNA testing has been National Geographic's Geno2 test, the results of which you have transferred into our project, please be aware that you must also take some level of yDNA STR testing (12, 25, 37, 67, 111 markers, or the Big Y-700) in order to be matched to other men in FTDNA's database. If you are a man and have not done all of the above you should check the further testing recommendations in the section heading for your kit on our project's yDNA test results page. SNP testing is required to confirm that your yDNA STR matches are not the product of convergence across haplogroup subclades or even entire haplogroups. The Big Y-700 test is the best way to reveal your terminal SNP, but it is expensive. Sometimes you can find your terminal SNP by taking a specific SNP Pack test though you cannot be certain without the Big Y-700. Unless you have completed all your yDNA testing or even all your DNA testing (including mtDNA and atDNA) you will see your individual testing recommendations arranged in the order of the most value to our project's research: 1. Big Y-700 test, a Next Generation Sequencing test which currently costs $649 USD (please wait for a sale to order it) and it reveals the finest details of your descent from Y-Adam down to your private terminal SNP. Think of SNPs (chain of unique mutations) as the roots, trunk, limbs, branches, and twigs of your family tree with your STR markers as the leaves (this test can reveal over 800 STR markers). 2. SNP Pack test, these tests can cost as much as $119 USD and provide finer detail than FTDNA's estimated haplogroup call. 3. SNP test, these stand alone tests cost $39 USD and indicate your ancient line of descent (Haplogroup) although they do not provide as much detail as the two tests above. 4. STR Marker test upgrades, these upgrades from a lower to a higher number of markers (12, 25, 37, 67, 111) vary in price depending on how many new markers are ordered and if they are on sale. The more markers tested the closer are your matches in generational time. 5. Family Finder test, this is an autosomal DNA test which costs $79 USD and helps define the branches found by the yDNA tests above. If you are a man who has only tested one or two of the three types of DNA you carry (yDNA, mtDNA, & atDNA with X-chromosome) please consider expanding your testing into those other types of DNA to increase your knowledge of your ancestry. This is especially important for those few men in our project who have never tested their yDNA! If you are a woman who wants to trace your father's direct patrilineal line you will need to find a male relative from that line to test his yDNA because only men carry that type of DNA, passing it from father to son. If you are a woman who has taken the Family Finder test to trace your autosomal block DNA with X-chromosome (atDNA) but no further testing, please remember that FTDNA has the world's largest mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) database and it is the only commercial lab to test mtDNA's full sequence. Please consider adding mtDNA to your testing to discover your direct matrilineal origin. If you are a woman who has tested your mtDNA but not taken the Family Finder test, please consider adding it to your testing to reveal the whole range of your most recent ancestry. As our project gains more participants over time your chances of having matches will increase, meanwhile you can help yourself reach this goal by encouraging known relatives to also test their DNA. SPECIAL NOTE TO ALL BIG Y-500 (only) TESTERS: FTDNA changed the basis of their Big Y Next Generation Sequencing (SNP) test from "Build 19" to "Build 38" -- do NOT worry about the technical points -- this is an important upgrade to this four year old test which is the flagship for our lab. No matter when you took the Big Y-500 (NOT Big Y-700) your results have been revised! It has taken FTDNA several months to complete the transition to "Build 38" so please check your personal account page occasionally to see if your Big Y revision has been finished. When you see that your Big Y revision is done please notify a member of the admin team. For those of you Big Y testers who are downstream from R1b-U106 all of your test results need to be re-analysed so please upload your revised (and enlarged) VCF/BED files to a new collection point (Y-DNA Data Warehouse) for analysis at: "https://ydna-warehouse.org/submit.php" These files are now so large that neither admin team members nor our consulting yDNA experts can access them in any other way. In closing, if you have not put your family tree on your "myFTDNA" page please do so as it aids your matches (yDNA, mtDNA, and/or atDNA) in their efforts to identify their connection to you. Thank you, Terrance!
Joseph Sprowl Joseph Sprowl
February 21 @ 11:57am
We are incredibly lucky in the Sproul Project to have many STR testers, and particularly, Big Y testers as we have. Here is a snapshot of the various branches that have been discovered so far since we've begun Big Y testing. When the Project started we only knew of the mutation R-L48 which is estimated to be 4,600 years old and not much help in the genealogy world! We have since learned that R-FGC60974/FGC60976 is the parent mutation or Haplogroup for the Sproul tree. Within a period of two and a half years this is how far we have come. And 2020 promises to yield so much more! Thank you so much to all of you for being part of this amazing family of Sprouls. Fully upgrading STR and Big Y testing is critical to the understanding of how we all fit together. As a guide; on each branch you will see two acronyms: ybp and TMRCA. ybp means Years before Present, or, numbers of years prior to today. The second acronym, TMRCA means Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor, or, how far back each of you in your branch have to go back for the first ancestor all of you in the branch link back to. So for example; in the case of R-BY109860, this mutation formed about 700 years ago. Both testers share a common ancestor in this branch 600 years ago.
Joseph Sprowl Joseph Sprowl
August 16 @ 2:45pm
Dear project members, it is with a heavy heart that I report the passing of Philip Sprowl whom passed away last evening. Philip was the founder of the Sproul DNA Project over ten years ago when he wanted to prove his theory that all Sprouls were in some way related to one another. Due to health reasons Philip was unable to continue on with his work but I'm quite sure he would be very proud of how all of us have developed his passion into a project everyone can be extremely proud of. Philip, you will be missed.
Michael Finfrock Michael Finfrock
November 6, 2019 @ 9:24am
My Name is Michael Finfrock. I recently had my Y-DNA done through FamilyTreeDNA at the urging of a distant cousin. She was searching for other male Finfrocks as her Brother was the last in their direct line. Ancestry DNA showed we had a connection through my 4th Great-Grandfather (their 3rd) David W. Finfrock. After completing the Y-DNA we discovered quite a few close connections in the Sproul (and subsequent spellings) line. However neither of us has any Sproul in our ancestry tree that we can find. What we have discovered (unsubstantiated and unsourced but through family "gossip") is that my 4th Great-Grandmother (their 3rd), Elizabeth McBride - may have had children from a previous marriage before marrying our GGF David. This could certainly explain our unexpected overwhelming Scottish DNA as opposed to the German we were expecting. I was wondering if you - or any other Sproul - have an Elizabeth McBride (b. 1 Aug 1799 - d. 23 Aug 1849 in Pennsylvania) anyplace in their genealogy research. If you could pass this along to others, I would appreciate any light that could possibly be shed on our findings.
Joseph Sprowl
November 6, 2019 @ 2:08pm
Hello Michael, thank you so much for joining the Sproul project. You may want to look at your closest matches in your Y-DNA match list and contact them directly as well. You might get lucky there. Also, please join the sprouls.org website as we also have a forum there for you to post your query if you like. Thanks again for joining us!
James Thomson
October 2 @ 3:03am
Hi Michael, I am manager of my Dads kit (James Thomson). I don’t have the answer to your question but you are a yDNA match to my dad. I will find his kit number in a minute. Like you, we have no evidence of Sproul ancestors Other than MANY yDNA Sproul matches. Our Thomson line however has only ever been in Scotland as far as I can see. I’m not sure if this this adds anything to help you as I do not yet know how to analyse yDNA results (although I’m pretty good with the Autosomnal DNA!) Catriona (Dundee, Scotland)
Joseph Sprowl Joseph Sprowl
April 7 @ 9:45am
Here is an interesting contribution by one of our members, Roger Harris of a four-part study of Dr. Godfrey Spruill, published in "The Genealogist" by Dr Gale Harris. The details are as follows for those who may be interested. "Godfrey Spruill, Planter and Physician of Virginia and North Carolina," an exhaustive study published in four parts by Dr. Gale Harris, appears in the following issues of The Genealogist: Part I Vol. 32: No. 1 (Spring 2018), pp. 22-47. Part II Vol. 32: No. 2 (Fall 2018), pp. 199-216. Part III Vol. 33: No. 1 (Spring 2019), pp. 58-80. Part IV Vol. 33: No. 2 (Fall 2019), pp. 272-300. The Genealogist, which is published by the American Society of Genealogists, is available in certain libraries. Back issues of The Genealogist are also available for purchase at $15.00 per issue or $25.00 for any two issues. Details for ordering can be found at www.fasg.org. In the options displayed across the top of the home page, click on The Genealogist; there you will find instructions and an order form.
Joseph Sprowl Joseph Sprowl
June 7, 2019 @ 9:46am
On behalf of the Sproul DNA Project I would like to ask all of us to give Mary Helen Haines a warm welcome to our project as she joins our Administrator team. Mary Helen has over ten years experience as genealogist for Clan MacFarlane Worldwide (CMW) and is a much needed resource for helping us develop our ancient Scottish roots. Welcome Mary Helen to the Sproul DNA Project!
Cathy Sproule
June 7, 2019 @ 3:08pm
Hi Mary Helen! So glad you have come on board.
James Sprowls
June 10, 2019 @ 1:45pm
Welcome aboard Mary. Look forward to communicating with you. Was interesting to see Spreull listed. My 7th Great Grandfather's brother has that spelling on his gravestone though when his wife died later her's spells it Sproule though their graves are side by side. Hopefully the connection can be proved from Ireland back to Scotland in the future.
Jim Spruell
July 10, 2019 @ 8:14pm
Welcome Mary Helen!
Ivan Sproule
September 2, 2019 @ 3:59am
Welcome Helen, greetings from Ireland
James Sprowls James Sprowls
April 5, 2019 @ 10:50pm
I've sent a Family Search and Y-DNA111 kit to Joe Sprowls so hopefully that will provide a match between us. He is a descendant of the eldest son of John and Elizabeth Love Sproule/Sprowls who came to Pennsylvania in 1793 from Ireland. Hopefully I'll hear back from another descendant of another of their six sons that is not a descendant of William the youngest son who was born in Pennsylvania in 1794 (my line). For the project infomation I upgraded to the Y-DNA700. The results should be available by mid June.
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Joseph Sprowl
June 7, 2019 @ 6:04pm
James, how is this going?
James Sprowls
July 15, 2019 @ 9:55pm
Got my Big Y 700 results today. I recontacted Joe Sprowls and I think he has submitted his kit for Family Search and Y-DNA111 testing. Still trying to get two people to take the other two Family Search/&-DNA111 tests.
Joseph Sprowl
July 18, 2019 @ 1:40pm
Thank you James for the update.
James Sprowls
August 21, 2019 @ 5:44pm
Got an email today from Joe Sprowls. He just received his Family Search and Y-DNA111 results. Hopefully he'll join the Sproul Project soon. Currently he is traveling. Don't know when he'll get home. I'm looking forward to seeing them once FTDNA posts them. I hope our paper geneology matches our dna results.
Joseph Sprowl Joseph Sprowl
August 18, 2019 @ 9:57pm
Big Y-700 is already yielding results. We have a new sub-clade, BY150178 that has been determined to be downstream of FGC60992. This is one of two major branches of the Irish Cowden lines. We are expecting a new sub-clade will be revealed in the other branch of the Irish Cowden Sproul line. We have two new Big Y-700 testers in the FGC60974 group so it is possible a new sub-clade will be revealed once their testing is completed. It is very important to try and upgrade your Y-STR markers, but optimal, if Big Y-700 is in your budget. The FGC60974 branches are soon to be very important to have as much data as possible in order to move our research into Scotland. If you are FGC60974 please consider upgrading Y-STR or Big Y-700 if possible. As always, thank you to all for being part of the Sproul project. We have the best project members out there!
Linwood Smith Linwood Smith has a question!
August 17, 2019 @ 12:26pm
Sorry for hitting the post button. My grandfather was Jesse T Spruill from Pamlico Co NC. Born 1897 died 1982. I have traced his Spruill line back to Thomas Hawkins Spruill b 1760 d 1808. Tyerrell Co NC. Does anyone have his line future back? I think it may go back to Godfrey Spruill but not sure. I am waiting on results from family finder. Will that give me any more info. Thanks for any help possible
Joseph Sprowl
August 18, 2019 @ 12:24pm
Hi Linwood, thank you for joining the Sproul project. I will put you in touch with someone who may be able to help you with your Spruill line. I would like to suggest if you have a male Spruill descendant in your family willing to Y-STR test we would be better able to determine which branch you most closely align.
Joseph Sprowl Joseph Sprowl
July 19, 2019 @ 6:58pm
Big Y testers. It appears everyone is receiving new kits, which goes without saying this will delay your results depending on how quickly you are able to return your sample kit. FTDNA is spending substantial time and effort to ensure the sample you provided is as viable and reliable as possible. I believe the new kits are the best way to go. One thing you should be aware of is your list of matches will be all over the place until all of the Big Y-700 results are posted. This is caused by new SNPs being discovered in the Big Y-700 results that were not discovered in the Big Y-500 testing. So you may find yourself in an unexpected position in the match list for a while. Once all of the upgrades are completed I will send out a Big Y group email explaining the new results. If you have not upgraded or wish to purchase the Big Y-700 I strongly urge you to hold off until the next sale.
Ronald Sprueill Ronald Sprueill has a question!
June 17, 2019 @ 1:13pm
How do I use my DNA from Sproul Project in my Ancestry Tree/
Joseph Sprowl
July 1, 2019 @ 9:36pm
Hi Ronald, are you talking about with Family Finder results?
James Sprowls James Sprowls
April 5, 2019 @ 10:43pm
I hope everyone in the Sprowl Project has read Kate Tammemagi's sproulegenealogy.blogspot.com posts. If we all relate back to Spreull or Sproule's and the spelling has been changed over the centuries she has written a lot of excellent information in her series of blogs over the years. Thank you Kate for all the time, effort, energy, and expense to research and create these blogs to share.
Joseph Sprowl Joseph Sprowl
March 24, 2019 @ 7:00pm
Thank you Glen for representing the Sproul project at this year's FTDNA Annual DNA Conference in Houston, Texas. Your attendance is huge in us staying up to speed in current DNA technology to better advance our project. Thanks so much!
James Sprowls
March 27, 2019 @ 1:17pm
Thank your for taking the time to go to the conference. Is there anything you learned you can share with members of the project that can help the group or individuals in their own research?
Joseph Sprowl
March 27, 2019 @ 3:44pm
Hi James. Glen should be putting out some information soon.