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Descendants of Thomas Sayre (1597-1670)
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Are you a member of the SAYRE DNA Project?
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Gregory Morley Gregory Morley
April 10, 2016 @ 9:39am
Hello SAYRE Family DNA Project members! Several of you were recruited by me to participate in this project as far back as December 2010, others have found this project on their own. The goal of this project is two-fold: identify male descendants of Thomas SAYRE (1597-1670), his brothers, or male ancestors. Secondly, to identify the paternal haplogroup to which all male descendants of Thomas SAYRE, his brothers, or male ancestors inherited. My research includes collaboration with Ralph SAYRE, a descendant who has researched and published five volumes of his work on SAYRE lineage, titled, "SAYRE FAMILY: another 100 years" (1996), extending the work published by Thomas M. Banta, titled, "Sayre Family: Lineage of Thomas Sayre, a Founder of Southampton (1901)." Additionally, I have interviewed male and female descendants, examined countless documents, personal letters, public records, genealogy forums, and DNA data including Y-chromosome and autosomal chromosomes of both members and non-members of this project. After carefully examining the evidence, I concluded in 2012 that the Y-chromosome haplogroup of Thomas SAYRE, his brothers, male ancestors, and all direct male descendants is J2 and can only be J2. My conclusion contradicts the initial conclusion of Suzane Sears who published her findings in June 2010, comparing Thomas SAYRE to WIlliam SAYRE, indicating Thomas was R1bc and William was J2. Suzanne cites the SEARS DNA Project at FTDNA, and other "DNA profiles" as her evidence, however I believe she mistakenly assigned R1bc to Thomas by hastily generalizing the origins of J-haplogroup when she wrote "J: usually refers to eastern European and or Jewish lineages," and relying on a single DYS marker--390--and it's allele--23--to conclude that Thomas must have been "Germanic, Flemish, Dutch," and that DYS390 with an allele of 24 are Celtic. Suzanne wrote, "If my memory is correct: most Sayres are 23......which is consistent with history..." In my project's DNA Results page the modal for Thomas' DYS390 is 24, and is consistent with the results previously published at AncestryDNA. Moreover, the SAYRE descendants in my project--male or female--provided supporting documentation that validated their lineage to Thomas, and helped to support my claim that Thomas SAYRE belonged to Y-haplogroup J2. You may be asking yourself why I am involved in this project. The answer to your question is simple: In 2008, while researching my previously unknown paternal great-grandfather, I tested with two Y-DNA vendors, Sorenson Molecular Genealogical Foundation (SMGF), and AncestryDNA. At Ancestry I have a Y-DNA46 match to a SAYRE, with zero mutational differences and a genetic distance of one. My Y-haplogroup is the same as Mr. J. W. Sayre, R1b. DNA results from two of his cousins and great uncle exclude him as descending from Thomas SAYRE; the cousins and uncle match each other and both males are J2. Therefore, since he and I are R1b, and all the other documented descendants of Thomas SAYRE are J2, neither of us are related to Thomas. Additional research and DNA testing with several of my paternal cousins have lead me to identify my paternal great-grandfather, and his surname is WILLIAMS. If you haven't already taken my SAYRE DNA Survey, please click on this link and answer two very simple questions: which of the four sons of Thomas SAYRE do you believe you descend, and what is your Y-DNA haplogroup, if known. Your participation is greatly appreciated. If I can help you with your DNA results, do not hesitate to contact me. Best regards, Gregory L. Morley, MA Project Administrator
Stephen Parks
May 9, 2016 @ 10:35pm
Hello, thank you in advance for being project administrator. Here is my Sayre line Relationship to me William Sayre (1514 - 1564) 12th great-grandfather William Sayre (1535 - 1581) son of William Sayre Francis Sayre Sr. (1565 - 1645) son of William Sayre Thomas Sayre (1597 - 1670) son of Francis Sayre Sr. Daniel Sayre (1605 - 1708) son of Thomas Sayre Samuel Sayre (1668 - 1707) son of Daniel Sayre Daniel Sayre (1698 - 1760) son of Samuel Sayre David Sayre (1736 - 1825) son of Daniel Sayre Benjamin Sayre (1774 - 1829) son of David Sayre Susannah Sayre (1810 - 1842) daughter of Benjamin Sayre Lloyd Dotson (1833 - 1900) son of Susannah Sayre Phillip Sheridan (Shedd) Dotson Sr. (1867 - 1945) son of Lloyd Dotson Anna Marie Dotson (1896 - 1972) daughter of Phillip Sheridan (Shedd) Dotson Sr. Edna Marie Berg (1918 - 1978) daughter of Anna Marie Dotson I am the son of Edna Marie Berg, Stephen E Parks I am not sure of my haplogroup.
Stephen Parks
May 9, 2016 @ 10:40pm
My Haplogroup is R-M269
Stephen Parks
May 9, 2016 @ 10:52pm
R1b1a1a2 R-M269
Gregory Morley
January 25, 2017 @ 3:22pm
Hi Stephen. Thank you for your lineage summary.
marla white marla white
January 14 @ 3:32am
Hi, I am also a descent from the Thomas Sayre Group Also.
marla white
January 14 @ 4:05am
Sorry I hit return. My Descendants is, Thomas Sayre b ENG, Daniel Sayre 1633 NY, Samuel I 1668 NY, Samuel II 1694 NJ, Samuel III 1725 NJ, Samuel IV, 1761 NJ, Mercer (a triplet) 1794 b. New Jersey. He married a Wingate, Malcina Sayre 1822 is my gr gr grandmother. She married a Van Dyke. I am very familiar with the Batan Book I have researched this family for Years . I am not a Professional Genealogist, I have a hard time understanding DNA results be cause it is new to me. . I can try to answer any questions some one may have.
TL sayre TL sayre
December 30 @ 10:14pm
Hi. I am trying to figure out whether a link exists between the Sayre family in Bedford and the Sears family in Essex. I personally believe that Sears are from Bedford, but can't prove it. I have noted some evidence for the link on the Sears DNA Project page if anyone is interested.
Susan Brooks Gilleland McNatt McBurney Susan Brooks Gilleland McNatt McBurney
July 4, 2015 @ 3:15pm
Unbroken Motherline descends from Mary Sayre ( Perryopolis, Fayette County, PA) to Clarissa Black to Susan Elizabeth Bute (b. 1854) to Olive Blanche McBurney (b. 1880) to Belva Elizabeth Gilleland (b. 1912) to me, Sayre, Black, Bute, McBurney and Gilliland/Gilleland are Fayette Co., PA names from before
Marvin Kimbro
January 14, 2019 @ 10:25am
Working on my family tree via my father's y-dna results and came across your Sayre family project. Here is what I have with regards to our family tree involving the Sayre surname. Thomas Sayre-Daniel Sayre-Samuel Sayre-Daniel Sayre-David Sayre-Rebecca Darby-Eliza Darby-Hiram Henry Flesher-Charles C Flesher-Rachel Flesher-Marvin R Kimbro (my father).
Marvin Kimbro
January 14, 2019 @ 10:26am
the Y-dna haplogroup match is R-M269. But I am new at this and may not be reading things correctly.
Gregory Morley Gregory Morley
April 20, 2018 @ 2:27pm
This week I granted money from the General Fund to pay for a Y-DNA upgrade. Chad Zmolek, whose father is a Sayre and direct descendant of Thomas Sayre (1597-1670), recently met his mother and learned about his Sayre lineage. Adopted at an early age, Chad is hoping to connect with other Sayre descendants. The $99 grant was used to upgrade Chad's Y-DNA37 to 67 markers. You can see his results in the DNA Results page.
ronald williams ronald williams
July 21, 2017 @ 4:27pm
Hey Gregory i sent you a email my results are in im un-catagorized still do i have errors on my y test or is it a admin thing
Gregory Morley
April 11, 2018 @ 5:55pm
Hi Ronald, I see we exchanged several emails last summer and wanted to follow up with you. Since your paternal lineage is not Sayre, I'll remove you from the group.
Robyn Sears Robyn Sears
February 23, 2018 @ 6:19pm
Hi. I have both Sears and Sayres on my father's side (his father was Sears and his mother had Sayre down the line). We are still trying to work on the Sears line after my great-great grandfather because there are some conflicts here and there. However, on my grandmother's side (my father's mother) Her line to the Sayres are as follows: Elsie Young (my grandmother), Nora Lewis, James C. Lewis, Abraham Lewis, William Henry Lewis, Polly Olmstead, Esther Roberts, Mary Sears/Sayre, Nathan Sayre, Captain Daniel Sayre, etc.
ronald williams ronald williams
June 9, 2017 @ 3:58am
Joseph Sayre Pack, father of... Arietta Pack, mother of... Alfred J Badger, father of... Helen Marie Badger, mother of... Ronald Chester Williams, father of... Ronald Chester Williams Jr.
ronald williams ronald williams
June 9, 2017 @ 3:51am
Well i thought i woud say hello and hope to be of some help if i may.. but not sure i will be able to... my link to the group
Susan Brooks Gilleland McNatt McBurney Susan Brooks Gilleland McNatt McBurney
July 30, 2015 @ 8:37pm
Is anyone else a Sayre from Haplogroup I-1a1b ?
Harry Sayre
July 31, 2015 @ 9:00pm
Susan, all male descendants of Thomas SAYRE (1597-1670) are J-M172 (J2).
Susan Brooks Gilleland McNatt McBurney
October 15, 2015 @ 4:45pm
Thank you. Susan