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Michał Milewski Michał Milewski
October 23, 2016 @ 6:14am
Dear Project Members! Before you ask any questions here, please read the following instructions posted on an R1a project blog that is run by our co-admin Artur Martyka: http://r1aproject.blogspot.com/2016/02/normal-0-21-false-false-false-pl-x-none_9.html http://r1aproject.blogspot.com/2016/03/normal-0-21-false-false-false-pl-x-none.html http://r1aproject.blogspot.com/2016/03/basic-understanding-of-categories-you.html http://r1aproject.blogspot.com/2016/11/ordering-and-comparison-of-single-snps.html If you are a new project member, please go to our project's DNA Results page (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1a/default.aspx?vgroup=r1a&section=yresults) to see which specific category you have been assigned to by our admin team based on your STR and SNP results (this will also show our specific recommendations for your further testing). You may wish to increase the size of that page (from 500 to 8500) to see your STR haplotype being shown among all remaining haplotypes belonging to our project's members (otherwise you will need to visit all subpages one by one before finding your STR haplotype placed in a specific category). In case the classic chart doesn't work (for some technical reasons), try the colorized chart instead (page size 15000). Keep in mind that it may take a day or two before your newly joined/received results are assigned to a proper category by one of our admins, so please be patient. Also, you need to stay logged in (as a project member) to see the results of all project members, including those who don't want their results to be seen by non-members. This includes your own result in case you have not made it available to all visitors. In case you don't have any STR results (which concerns many people who have transferred their Genographic results to FTDNA), you should consider ordering at least 37 (and better 67 or 111) Y-DNA STR markers, which is needed to assign you to a specific category and to make any specific advice regarding your further testing. Thank you for joining us in our quest to investigate our shared deep paternal ancestry!
Ingo Zmuda
September 9 @ 1:33am
Hi Eugeniusz, my grandparents are from Kreis Schlochau in West Prussia; nowadays this is in Poland, powiat Bytowski, gmina Lipnica. Are your ancestors also from that region?
Eugeniusz Wysmołek
September 13 @ 4:27am
Ingo a familly
Eugeniusz Wysmołek
September 13 @ 4:28am
Not really Żmudas that we are related to are from Southern PL
Sonny Sidhu
September 30 @ 2:31pm
Hi can I get reassigned? I got my Big Y results back, and I'm now R-879 according to FTDNA but I'm actually part of a deeper sub-clade R-Y34241 (not on FTDNA yet) according to YFull: https://yfull.com/tree/R-Y34241/ My yfull id is YF65553. I'm currently assigned to group "9. ...>Z93>Z94>M780>M634>L657>Y9>Y7-y (Y7 not tested, Big Y or Z93 SNP pack needed)" from back when I was only R-M198 positive and had 111strs tested so it reflects well on the admin's recommendations.
Artur Martyka Artur Martyka
May 29, 2018 @ 12:50pm
*IMPORTANT* Dear R1a Project members You may have recently read about or heard of a number of changes to projects and privacy settings of all FTDNA Testers. (This is a new law - GDPR - which has begun). For me, the most important thing you can do for me right now, is to log into your FTDNA personal home page and hover your cursor over your name on the top right hand side and click on <Privacy and Sharing> and work through the privacy options. When complete, click on the tab right next to the <Privacy and Sharing> called <Project Preferences> For R1a Project that I administer along with other staff members, please click on “EDIT” then grant me ‘Limited Access’. (Full access is available only if you give me your kit number and password). Please grant access also to other staff members of R1a Project, all if possible. Otherwise, we won't be able to work on the haplotypes of some project members, whose profiles are locked. Best,
Ralph Looman-Suprunowski
March 17 @ 3:27am
Really sounds complex. Steep learning curve.
Nuno Alexandre Zeverino Freire da Silva Meco
August 26 @ 12:25am
Hello. I tested the SNP Z93 through other company and it was positive. With this information would it be possible to be grouped on R-Z93? Thanks.
Aleksandr Hagen
August 27 @ 1:23pm
Hello dear Admins! Can someone explain what does M198 means? Kit 693023. Thanks!
John McIntosh (T629662)
August 28 @ 2:39pm
Aleksandr, M198 is the SNP that you are classified under. It is at a very high position on the ytree. You need to carry out some SNP testing to find your 'recent' position on the tree. If you look in the results an administrator may have made a suggestion for testing. BigY is best but single SNPs or SNP packs are cheaper.
Radim Kalabis Radim Kalabis has a question!
October 8 @ 3:30am
Hi, I have YSEQ test results, and I am haplogroup L1029 - YP619. Is there anyone with the same group? I want to find out where this mutation comes from. Thank you.
Jose Luis Meana
October 8 @ 6:22am
Here you have a bunch of 3,000 years old cousins:
Jose Luis Meana
October 8 @ 6:22am
Sonny Sidhu
October 8 @ 7:57am
Have you uploaded your data to yfull yet? They update their haplotrees on a roughly monthly basis and can compare your data to other samples and confirm an even more accurate haplogrouping for you if they can match your private/novel SNPs with another sample. Here's a tip for looking on yfull as Jose above me has posted, if you see any IDs that do not begin with YF (these are user submitted data), these are usually publicly available samples found in scientific literature ie papers in journals. However I think the correct branch for you is actually this one: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP619/ As you have this mutation YP619, which is circa 2100 years old. There are no scientific samples on the tree here yet, they might be out there but yfull hasn't got around to including them yet. So if we go up 1 mutation (ie your common ancestor) on the tree to: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L1029/ There is only one scientific sample included (ERS256947), however he no longer appears on NCBI any more, but if you do an internet search you can find that he belonged to this paper which is still published: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23908240/ For any other sample that you might find on the tree, you only need to copy and paste their ID into the search bar at the top of the following page: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/biosample So as an example if we look at the R-L1029 tree posted above, scroll down and we will find the sample ERS1789465 under branch R-BY30779, post the sample id into NCBI's search and it should give you a page for the sample listing its attributes, download links for analysis, projects that the sample belongs to and any scientific papers using the data. In this case, this sample belonged to an Ashkenazi genetics project: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/bioproject/416890
Michael Klabe
October 17 @ 12:05pm
Hi Radim, I am also haplogroup YP619 and have been tested with YSEQ
Leon BUYNEVIĆ Leon BUYNEVIĆ has a question!
October 10 @ 11:08pm
I have recently been advised that I have a Y-DNA match at 67 markers! However this person does not appear as a match at Y12, Y25 or Y37 markers? Can anyone enlighten me as to why this would be the case. Thanks in anticipation.
Florian Malessa
October 12 @ 6:12am
At 12 markers you see STR matches which have max. 1 difference, at 25 markes matches which max. 2 difference, at 37 markers which have max. 4 differences at 67 markers which have max. 7 differences. So you have with the match at 12, 25 and 37 markers more differences than FTDNA displayed.
October 12 @ 6:10pm
Thanks Florian, I sort of get it now.
Anders Andersson
October 16 @ 11:27pm
The Y-STR level matching criteria that FTDNA employs are pretty crude, and I would say even arbitrary, as I have seen no indication that the first 12 markers are less likely to mutate than those in any other panel in the 111-marker range. The TiP calculator appears to give a more reliable estimate of the proximity of a match, but unfortunately FTDNA has reduced its usefulness by limiting it to matches and testing levels passing their crude STR genetic distance criteria only. One of my closest matches happens to match me on 12 markers only, but the TiP calculator gave us a 50% chance of a common ancestor in 12 generations when asked to compare our full 111-marker results, better than most of my 25- and 67-marker matches. When I asked the helpdesk about this, I was told the option to set the TiP calculator to any testing level (which I have used in the past) has never existed at FTDNA! I don't want to press them on the issue since I'm concerned they may discover additional undocumented functionality and remove it just to avoid burdening helpdesk staff with too difficult questions. But when the TiP calculator can be used, percentages are given with an impressive precision of four (!) significant digits...
Сергей Малецкий Сергей Малецкий
October 16 @ 3:55pm
Добрый день. Мой кит № 489805. Проапгрейдился до 67-ми маркеров. Обновите пожалуйста информацию.
Artur Martyka Artur Martyka
October 16 @ 3:23am
Hi! I am back to the regular duty and will slowly make changes though it really needs a lot of patience both on my side and yours. Admin Dashboard reacts very slowly - it is probably connected with the need of processing Y-STRs every time we re-group a person or update category. It's purely a technology thing, we have no influence on that and we reported issues to FTDNA multiple times.
Artur Martyka
October 16 @ 3:29am
People with Big Y test done, what can you do to help us - please read this blog entry by genealogist Linda Jonas: https://ultimatefamilyhistorians.blogspot.com/2019/10/advantages-of-submitting-to-yfull.html follow the steps and join R1a Project here.
NFI Vance
October 16 @ 7:55am
Thanks for all your help here Artur! We appreciate it.
Aamir Dastgir Aamir Dastgir
October 9 @ 10:56pm
I don't suppose anyone can contact the owner(s) of the two "Babasan from Northern Kazakhstan" kits that got Big Y tests and were placed in R-Y16494 and ask them to join YFull as well?
Sonny Sidhu
October 10 @ 7:16am
Do you match with these people? You can message them from your Y-matches page, assuming they have enabled contact sharing with their matches. Otherwise email one of the admins.
Aamir Dastgir
October 11 @ 2:22pm
Yeah, I have one kit in R-Y16494, but not on FTDNA yet, and another in R-Y29* which is nearby. Both Jatts, btw. Hello fellow R-Y7 Jatt :)
Sonny Sidhu
October 12 @ 3:54pm
I'm confused, you have 2 kits from your own sample, 1 has been tested with FTDNA and the other is present on yfull? https://yfull.com/tree/R-Y16494/ Are you YF03897? IE the sample from from the UAE?
Sabri Kahraman Sabri Kahraman has a question!
August 14 @ 1:28am
Hey guys, what is a good test to do for Iranics? I know that my Haplogroup is R1a, but I have no idea which clad I belong to. I would prefer not to go crazy and do the Big Y-700 test but I also would hate to do a test and not be able to pin point my specific clad. Are there any Zaza, Kurds, or Iranians who can suggest which test will be enough to find out what I am looking for? Thanks.
Ray A
September 26 @ 3:30pm
Indo-Iranians and Balto-slavs are realitivs our languages are closer to each other than to other Indo-germans like Hayks, Greeks, Romans, Germans. This group is called Satem, Zazaki-Parthian: Ceni - Serbian: žena (Jena), Zazaki-Parthian: Ko, Russian - gora, Kurmanji - Spas, Russian Spassiva, even the suffix vic in Serbian and northern Zazaki is the same. R1a1a is the father of the Balto-slavic and Indo-Iranian Satem folk. historically i dont know why some have many problems with identification, its quite clear, R1b or J2 are indeed complicated because we have many different historic groups who belong to them and they are longer in the middle east but R1a1a´s were almost all these east Indo-german invasors and in our region almost all Indo-iranian. Ok they call it Askenazi Jew, Turk, or Arab today :) which is more a personal cultural perspective but R1a1a´s real identity is east-indo-germanic.
Halit Alhan
September 30 @ 2:15am
To put it simply, do you suggest that all people in our region under Z283 is connected with Parthians?
Ray A
September 30 @ 11:05am
Eugeniusz Wysmołek
October 12 @ 3:31am
Sabri only BigY is gonna say something really precise. others are giving very general info.
Stephen Ranson Stephen Ranson has a question!
October 4 @ 11:35pm
I have finally been able to get the results page to show my kit, B526442, but it is in a section called “ungrouped”. There are no recommendations for additional tests etc. What do I do know? Do I just wait until the Admins have more time, and group my results, or does it mean mean my results are not distinct enough to put into a Haplo group?
Stephen Ranson
October 9 @ 5:32am
Sonny & Rostislavs, thank you. It took me a while to work out how to drive nevgen, but I was able to get the same result. Thanks again.
Stephen Ranson
October 9 @ 6:21am
To confirm my terminal Haplogroup, Does anyone know if I would be better testing just the S6353 SNP (98% prob at nevgen), or the Z284 pack (151 SNPs)?. I am guessing that if there is a chance I don’t actually match S6353, then I would have to keep testing up the Y tree to find the confirmation. I am guessing, but can’t seem to confirm, that the the Z284 pack would cover the S6353 SNP as well? So testing it at $119 may be better value than $39 for the one SNP.
Sonny Sidhu
October 9 @ 8:49am
Regarding your goals: 1. Do you know where your furtherest known paternal ancestor originally came from? Do you match with other Ranson men through your current level of STR testing in that area? 2. & 3. The FTDNA faqs give a pretty good overview on what each main test is generally good for in laymen terms and is a good starting point if you have no idea what to do. I assume you are aware of how Y DNA basically works ie it's an unbroken heritage between father and son, but with that in mind don't be surprised if there are irregularities ie non-paternity events which are roughly 2% between each generation: https://isogg.org/wiki/Non-paternity_event If you want to contribute meaningful data on your ancestry to science, I will say right now that the Big Y is the only test offered here that you can submit to Genbank's database for scientists to examine (such samples list FTDNA as their uploader when you come across them). Not only that, both FTDNA and Yfull, discover new SNPs by discovering your unknown mutations (private/novel SNPs) and matching them with other men in their databases, which they then submit (anonymously) to ISOGG to update the global Y tree: https://isogg.org/tree/index.html YFull is not affiliated with FTDNA but they collate data from various other testers, are more comprehensive in incorporating scientific samples in their tree (including ancient individuals & historical figures depending on the quality of the data) and prioritise their Y tree with monthly updates, not to mention you could potentially have a larger pool of individuals to collaborate your research with. You can only discover new Y SNPs through the Big Y test. The SNP pack you have seen will be covered by the Big Y test anyway, and will not provide the advantages of any data for others to study, it will provide you personal value in that you can definitively say you are a member of a specific haplogroup and that you have found other family members with said haplogroup, but you won't be able to discover any unknown SNPs that you might be harbouring. To reiterate because I don't want to come across as coercive, you don't necessarily need to take the Big Y test to get a better understanding of your family history (as far as we know yet), but in MY opinion, the Big Y offers the best value as far your own personal history is considered as well as the greater public good such information might provide.
Matias Back
October 11 @ 11:45pm
Stephen, last time I checked I could not order the S6353 snippet test. Propably the amount of S6353 carriers who are negative to S6355 are too low. At the moment, the only S6355 negative S6353 carriers are the Finland based F17715 (YFull BY161624 & FT57774), so I would simply try the S6355 if the BigY is considered too expensive. Personally, I would recommend BigY from the start as I ended up ordering it myself even if I got quite far without it. :)
Alex Tverdohleb Alex Tverdohleb has a question!
September 27 @ 8:07pm
Hi, I've gotten my Big Y results in May (I ordered the test after buying all the recommended SNP packs without any change to my confirmed Haplogroup ). The Big Y didn't help as I've gotten zero matches and my confirmed haplogroup stayed R-Y33. I then uploaded my data to YFull and got placed in the Ytree under R-Y33* which from what I understand means that I don't belong to any of the known downstream subclades. I've also checked the Y-dna chart here and my kit is still listed as "Unclustered Big Y needed". So is this pretty much a lost cause now? Am I supposed to wait for people in my particular unknown subclade to get Big Y tests as well before I see any new updates? Would getting my father the Big Y test actually help the process?
Alex Tverdohleb
October 3 @ 7:03am
According to YFull I have 56 novel SNP's
Sonny Sidhu
October 4 @ 1:51pm
To clarify, do you already know the identity of your paternal grandfather's biological parents? Are you trying to get in touch with distant relatives through a common paternal ancestor ie his father's paternal relatives? Are there no public records of christenings, births, confirmations etc with the surname that you're interested in, that you can then trace your family history from? With that many novel SNPs at 56 (I only have 2 novel SNPs myself), it seems like there's a very under-represented Y DNA lineage that you belong to that could potentially benefit anthropology in your region if you get another family member to go through the same level of testing that you have, I would recommend that this should be someone related to your paternal great-grandfather or next male kin, rather than someone descended from your grandfather. Though that's assuming you are interested in contributing to a better scientific understanding of population genetics.
Alex Tverdohleb
October 5 @ 2:57pm
To be clear I didn't have any particular goal in mind like finding lost relatives when I took the test and I still don't. Finding any living direct descendants or male relatives of my paternal great grandfather will take some major detective work on my part seeing as I have very little information regarding that side of the family but I guess it is possible. For now, my best course of action is probably to try and contact autosomal DNA matches on both 23andme and Ftdna that mighty share my haplogroup like some people suggested. Also, I'd just like to say that I appreciate the help I got from the people that commented here.
Sonny Sidhu
October 5 @ 3:33pm
Just so you're aware there are some groups on here that let you buy Y 12 str marker kits for $50 through being a member like the Polish Group that you can't purchase normally, otherwise any prospective males you want to get tested would have to start off with the y37 test kit which is $169 without discount. If I were you and wanted to take this further I would establish near exact match like this with a y12 with a view to getting a big y assuming you have corroborating evidence that the test taker has documented evidence to share a male ancestor. It really depends on how much money you are willing to risk for scientific data that has subjective use value to you.
Stephen Ranson Stephen Ranson
October 2 @ 10:11am
No matter what computer I try I can’t seem to ever find my kit on the project list. About 9/10 times I get a time out error especially if the page size is larger, and always if I choose anything more than 12 Markers. Is there some way we can just get a search function to enter a kit number and see the results that does not require rendering 9k+ other results first?
Antti Alfthan
October 2 @ 11:58am
The results' list is huge and it takes more than a cup of coffee to load and reload when searching - with any computer and bandwidth. You can adjust the page size to get the search easier - what I use to do is a few very large pages, each time letting them reload properly before continuing. - And sometimes the servers are simply overloaded.
Sonny Sidhu Sonny Sidhu has a question!
September 20 @ 5:14am
I've got my full Big Y 700 results today and my haplogroup has changed from R-M198 to R-Y879, the admin here recommended that I take the Z93 SNP test pack so they were clearly well informed to advice me (their prediction was correct). ̶H̶o̶w̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ ̶I̶ ̶n̶e̶e̶d̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶a̶d̶v̶i̶c̶e̶,̶ ̶I̶ ̶a̶p̶p̶a̶r̶e̶n̶t̶l̶y̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶4̶8̶ ̶u̶n̶n̶a̶m̶e̶d̶ ̶v̶a̶r̶i̶a̶n̶t̶s̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶I̶ ̶c̶h̶e̶c̶k̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶i̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶s̶e̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶I̶S̶O̶G̶G̶'̶s̶ ̶h̶t̶t̶p̶s̶:̶/̶/̶y̶b̶r̶o̶w̶s̶e̶.̶o̶r̶g̶/̶g̶b̶2̶/̶g̶b̶r̶o̶w̶s̶e̶/̶c̶h̶r̶Y̶/̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶f̶o̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶f̶a̶c̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶o̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶t̶r̶u̶e̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶2̶2̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶u̶t̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶2̶6̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶a̶l̶r̶e̶a̶d̶y̶ ̶n̶a̶m̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶d̶o̶c̶u̶m̶e̶n̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶S̶N̶P̶s̶.̶ ̶ ̶O̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶s̶e̶ ̶2̶6̶ ̶n̶a̶m̶e̶d̶ ̶S̶N̶P̶s̶,̶ ̶2̶2̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶d̶e̶f̶i̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶m̶u̶t̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶h̶a̶p̶l̶o̶g̶r̶o̶u̶p̶ ̶R̶-̶Y̶3̶4̶2̶4̶1̶ ̶(̶a̶c̶c̶o̶r̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶Y̶b̶r̶o̶w̶s̶e̶)̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶d̶o̶w̶n̶s̶t̶r̶e̶a̶m̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶c̶u̶r̶r̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶,̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶1̶ ̶o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶S̶N̶P̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶s̶e̶ ̶2̶6̶ ̶b̶e̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶ ̶d̶e̶f̶i̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶ ̶m̶u̶t̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶h̶a̶p̶l̶o̶g̶r̶o̶u̶p̶ ̶R̶-̶Y̶2̶5̶6̶8̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶u̶p̶s̶t̶r̶e̶a̶m̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶c̶u̶r̶r̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶g̶r̶o̶u̶p̶.̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶m̶a̶i̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶3̶ ̶n̶a̶m̶e̶d̶ ̶v̶a̶r̶i̶a̶n̶t̶s̶ ̶d̶o̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶c̶u̶r̶r̶e̶n̶t̶l̶y̶ ̶d̶e̶f̶i̶n̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶ ̶h̶a̶p̶l̶o̶g̶r̶o̶u̶p̶s̶ ̶y̶e̶t̶.̶ ̶ ̶H̶o̶w̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶r̶e̶g̶a̶r̶d̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶R̶-̶Y̶3̶4̶2̶4̶1̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶d̶o̶w̶n̶s̶t̶r̶e̶a̶m̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶c̶u̶r̶r̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶h̶a̶p̶l̶o̶g̶r̶o̶u̶p̶,̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶h̶a̶s̶ ̶2̶4̶ ̶d̶e̶f̶i̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶m̶u̶t̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶a̶c̶c̶o̶r̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶h̶t̶t̶p̶s̶:̶/̶/̶w̶w̶w̶.̶y̶f̶u̶l̶l̶.̶c̶o̶m̶/̶t̶r̶e̶e̶/̶R̶-̶Y̶3̶4̶2̶4̶1̶/̶,̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ ̶I̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶e̶s̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶i̶t̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶2̶1̶ ̶m̶u̶t̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶,̶ ̶2̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶i̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶g̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶n̶o̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶c̶c̶o̶r̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶B̶i̶g̶ ̶Y̶ ̶d̶a̶t̶a̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶1̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶i̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶d̶i̶d̶ ̶y̶i̶e̶l̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶i̶t̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶u̶t̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶l̶o̶w̶ ̶q̶u̶a̶l̶i̶t̶y̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶d̶i̶d̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶n̶t̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶f̶i̶r̶m̶e̶d̶.̶ ̶ ̶D̶o̶ ̶I̶ ̶n̶e̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶e̶m̶a̶i̶l̶ ̶a̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶f̶f̶ ̶m̶e̶m̶b̶e̶r̶ ̶a̶t̶ ̶F̶T̶D̶N̶A̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶u̶p̶d̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶S̶N̶P̶ ̶d̶a̶t̶a̶b̶a̶s̶e̶s̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶w̶e̶l̶l̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶f̶o̶r̶m̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶i̶n̶a̶c̶c̶u̶r̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶h̶a̶p̶l̶o̶g̶r̶o̶u̶p̶ ̶d̶e̶s̶i̶g̶n̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶?̶ ̶ ̶I̶'̶v̶e̶ ̶a̶l̶r̶e̶a̶d̶y̶ ̶t̶a̶b̶u̶l̶a̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶S̶N̶P̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶i̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ ̶a̶l̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶l̶i̶n̶k̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶I̶S̶O̶G̶G̶'̶s̶ ̶y̶b̶r̶o̶w̶s̶e̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶e̶a̶c̶h̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶f̶i̶r̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶a̶c̶t̶u̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶d̶e̶f̶i̶n̶e̶d̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶e̶x̶c̶e̶l̶ ̶t̶a̶b̶l̶e̶,̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶o̶u̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶n̶ ̶t̶a̶k̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶ ̶t̶i̶m̶e̶ ̶o̶r̶ ̶e̶f̶f̶o̶r̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶v̶e̶r̶i̶f̶y̶ ̶w̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶a̶l̶r̶e̶a̶d̶y̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶a̶w̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶.̶ The helpful ISOGG SNP contact person pointed out that I should check here in case FTDNA have pending submissions that are being reviewed by ISOGG for inclusion: https://isogg.org/wiki/FT_SNP_index It turns out that FTDNA have 17 pending submissions amongst my variants to be verified for inclusion, so assuming they eventually up date their databases, I have only 6 unknown variants that they may or may not be aware of.
Jose Luis Meana
September 20 @ 10:50am
Sonny, send your BAM file to YFull.
Jose Luis Meana
September 20 @ 10:51am
By the way, which batch number was your sample in? i've been waiting for over three months already...
Sonny Sidhu
September 20 @ 2:33pm
Batch 954, the batch numbers are irrelevant apparently, you should go by the dates that have been emailed to you rather than the automated estimate.
Sonny Sidhu
September 30 @ 2:22pm
Just to update, I've sent my bam file to YFull who have pre-determined my subclade to be R-Y34241. https://yfull.com/tree/R-Y34241/ My id on yfull is YF65553 for any admins reading this.