R1a Project

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Michał Milewski Michał Milewski
Admin
October 23, 2016 @ 6:14am
Dear Project Members! Before you ask any questions here, please read the following instructions posted on an R1a project blog that is run by our co-admin Artur Martyka: http://r1aproject.blogspot.com/2016/02/normal-0-21-false-false-false-pl-x-none_9.html http://r1aproject.blogspot.com/2016/03/normal-0-21-false-false-false-pl-x-none.html http://r1aproject.blogspot.com/2016/03/basic-understanding-of-categories-you.html http://r1aproject.blogspot.com/2016/11/ordering-and-comparison-of-single-snps.html If you are a new project member, please go to our project's DNA Results page (https://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1a/default.aspx?vgroup=r1a&section=yresults) to see which specific category you have been assigned to by our admin team based on your STR and SNP results (this will also show our specific recommendations for your further testing). You may wish to increase the size of that page (from 500 to 8500) to see your STR haplotype being shown among all remaining haplotypes belonging to our project's members (otherwise you will need to visit all subpages one by one before finding your STR haplotype placed in a specific category). In case the classic chart doesn't work (for some technical reasons), try the colorized chart instead (page size 15000). Keep in mind that it may take a day or two before your newly joined/received results are assigned to a proper category by one of our admins, so please be patient. Also, you need to stay logged in (as a project member) to see the results of all project members, including those who don't want their results to be seen by non-members. This includes your own result in case you have not made it available to all visitors. In case you don't have any STR results (which concerns many people who have transferred their Genographic results to FTDNA), you should consider ordering at least 37 (and better 67 or 111) Y-DNA STR markers, which is needed to assign you to a specific category and to make any specific advice regarding your further testing. Thank you for joining us in our quest to investigate our shared deep paternal ancestry!
112 Comments
Eugeniusz Wysmołek
February 11 @ 3:06am
I had same dilemma took bigY and now i have final haplo so I recommend this.
Mark Barta
February 12 @ 1:47pm
BigY is by far the better option over any of the SNP testing packs. The only reason to bother with the SNP packs is if you cannot realistically expect to be able to afford a BigY anytime in the foreseeable future.
Thomas Brown
February 12 @ 7:05pm
Mark is absolutely correct. There are two members within my grouping at Brown-Browne-Braun who are confirmed R-YP282 and R-YP441 via testing packs -- both L664, sure, but in the end it's not much better than saying both are confirmed human beings.
Brian Rebhorn
February 13 @ 8:27am
Great, thank you all for the recommendations. BigY it is!
Artur Martyka Artur Martyka
Admin
May 29, 2018 @ 12:50pm
*IMPORTANT* Dear R1a Project members You may have recently read about or heard of a number of changes to projects and privacy settings of all FTDNA Testers. (This is a new law - GDPR - which has begun). For me, the most important thing you can do for me right now, is to log into your FTDNA personal home page and hover your cursor over your name on the top right hand side and click on <Privacy and Sharing> and work through the privacy options. When complete, click on the tab right next to the <Privacy and Sharing> called <Project Preferences> For R1a Project that I administer along with other staff members, please click on “EDIT” then grant me ‘Limited Access’. (Full access is available only if you give me your kit number and password). Please grant access also to other staff members of R1a Project, all if possible. Otherwise, we won't be able to work on the haplotypes of some project members, whose profiles are locked. Best,
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John McIntosh (T629662)
August 28 @ 2:39pm
Aleksandr, M198 is the SNP that you are classified under. It is at a very high position on the ytree. You need to carry out some SNP testing to find your 'recent' position on the tree. If you look in the results an administrator may have made a suggestion for testing. BigY is best but single SNPs or SNP packs are cheaper.
NFI Vance
November 26 @ 4:16pm
This might also be helpful as a nice diagram of the R1a haplotree. http://forum.molgen.org/index.php/topic,2247.msg72042.html#msg72042
Jordi Mestres
November 27 @ 12:39pm
This is indeed a very nice way to summarise the main R1a clades, made by one of the Administrators of this R1a project. Many thanks for that! Unfortunately, it is over 3 years old and lots of new subclades are known today that were not known back in 2016. In fact, the potential degree of granularity that one could achieve with current subclade knowledge would perhaps require splitting that R1a general YTree at least into the 4 main clades that emerged 3,000 years ago: L664, Z284, Z280, and Z2124. In 3-5 years from now, the depth of knowledge on many branches may potentially allow for learning about the exact SNP and the very moment when lineages split into different surnames.
NFI Vance
November 27 @ 8:06pm
Thomas Virro Thomas Virro has a question!
February 4 @ 1:23am
Hi, my haplogroup is R-Y67289. What does it mean, how far down the tree am I? How many more levels downstream can I expect to come, or is this the lowest lever?? I feel like being on a big ocean and not knowing where I am. I have a contact in Russia, Omsk (he was born in Tara), who also has this haplogroup. How close related are we? The hit is on 12 Marker level. I would be very grateful if someone could shed som light over this, if possible. Regards/Thomas in Sweden (My parent were from Estonia, but I was born in Sweden)
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Thomas Virro
February 18 @ 5:38am
Hi Eugeniusz. Kit Ordered 12/10/2012 Kit Sent 12/11/2012 Kit Kit Received 01/05/2013 mtFull Sequence Ordered 12/10/2012 498 mtFull Sequence Batched 01/09/2013 498 mtFull Sequence Completed 03/21/2013 498 Y-DNA67 Ordered 12/10/2012 498 Y-DNA67 Batched 01/09/2013 498 Y-DNA67 Completed 02/13/2013 498 YP270 Ordered 06/03/2014 573 YP270 Batched 06/05/2014 573 YP270 Completed 06/23/2014 573 YP350 Ordered 06/10/2014 574 YP350 Batched 06/12/2014 574 YP350 Completed 07/25/2014 574 Family Finder Ordered 07/24/2014 581 Family Finder Batched 07/31/2014 581 Family Finder Completed 08/15/2014 581 Y-DNA111 Ordered 02/13/2015 610 Y-DNA111 Batched 02/18/2015 610 Y-DNA111 Completed 04/20/2015 610 Big Y Raw Data Ordered 06/06/2016 680 Big Y Raw Data Completed 06/06/2016 680 Big Y Raw Data Batched 06/08/2016 680 Big Y-500 Ordered 06/06/2016 680 Big Y-500 Batched 06/08/2016 680 Big Y-500 Completed 04/19/2018 680
Thomas Virro
February 19 @ 4:34am
Do I need to take some more test and which in that case? I think I have taken quite a lot of tests?
Mark Barta
Yesterday at 2:04pm
An upgrade to Y700 could be informative, but you'd probably be better off paying to Y700 test another family member on your male line rather than retesting your own kit.
Thomas Virro
23 hours ago
Yes, that is what I thought.
Andrzej Olesiak Andrzej Olesiak
Yesterday at 4:39am
why my surname Olesiak is not in Group Administrator Directory. My Kit No. IN43940
Dragos Verdes
23 hours ago
Yes you are, Andrzej. "IN43940 Roman b.1895 ,Stanislaw b.1862 ,Jan b.1830? Poland" . But you are ungrouped, just like me and other. Did you do big-Y test?
Aleksandr Mitrofanov Aleksandr Mitrofanov has a question!
Yesterday at 2:54am
Спасибо Михаилу Милевски за консультации. Информация по предкам введена. Сейчас мои Y-DNA STR 67 (IN71009) в разделе Ungrouped. Для управления данные открывал. Какие рекомендации?
Oktay KAHYA Oktay KAHYA has a question!
Yesterday at 2:22am
hi, just received bigy result. Place change my status. 745166
Jonas Rydfors Jonas Rydfors has a question!
February 20 @ 7:38am
Hello! =) My kit No is IN64675 and I have done big-y 700. It has been in "ungrouped" for two months. Why has it not been placed in a group?
Oleg  Rastorguev Oleg Rastorguev has a question!
February 18 @ 5:40am
Hello, I can't find myself in the table: my Kit No. 368082. Oleg Rastorguev
Joseph Pelsinski
February 18 @ 10:40am
Hello my Kit No. is N112858 and my Y Haplogroup is Y-R 2608.
Dragos Verdes
February 18 @ 2:49pm
@Joseph Pelsinski: 6. ..>Z280>CTS1211>Y35>CTS3402>Y2613>Y2617>Y2609>Y2608*-A [YP1626- YP613- YP3929-] (YP6098,BY27373 not tested; Big Y needed) - extracted from the table
Dragos Verdes
February 18 @ 2:56pm
@Oleg Rastorguev: I can't find you in the table, what haplogroup are you?
Dragos Verdes
February 18 @ 3:23pm
@Joseph: You should share your oldest know ancestor on the paternal line. In that group you have a close match with someone from Poland.
Mehran Aslam Mehran Aslam
February 14 @ 10:59am
Hi - just recieved Y111 today - I am Ambareen Rahman Managing kit MI52819 Surname: Aslam who belongs to R1a subclade - i have tried Nevgen and STR match finder - but nothing just a basic .. atm BIGY is not something i can do as the tester is from another country - where shipping has now become an issue. not sure when I will be able to get hold of tester again, even though willing to do it - but I would like what the nearest subclade or where this kit belongs to on the tree? Thanks!
Peter Copland
February 16 @ 10:31am
You can work out an approximate terminal SNP Group by comparing the values at each STR position that you have. You are looking for exact value matches starting with DYS393 position. The more exact values you can find when comparing the known entry to your values, the closer you are related and the closer you are to knowing the Terminal Group. This way will take time. I believe that there is an on-line App where you can enter the values and it will give the estimated Group. If you look back through the previous posts, you'll should see it mentioned.
Mehran Aslam
February 16 @ 1:20pm
Thank you for your help I shall do that - its a huge group R1a is lol!
Kenneth Wisz Kenneth Wisz has a question!
February 13 @ 6:01pm
Is anyone else in this project classified R-FT115483? I had the Big Y done and I progressed downstream from R-YP263 to Y18892 to BY54640 to FT115483. My computer keeps timing out and the Ctrl-F function won't work . I did notice that there was one test on the page that was positive for BY54640 and I did get a match to another person who is positive for FT115483 but is not a member of this project. I recognized the person's surname as it is common in my ancestral village just north of Rzeszow city limit.
Huso Camdzic Huso Camdzic
February 8 @ 5:52am
when it will be a family-friendly mobile phone app
Mark Barta
February 12 @ 1:57pm
That's a question for FTDNA's customer service, I don't think any of the Project Admins work for FTDNA, so they are unlikely to know much more than you do. And what exactly do you mean by "family friendly" in this context anyhow?
Huso Camdzic
February 12 @ 11:13pm
i was thinking of an app like myheritage etc when it would be a familytreedna app
John STUART John STUART
February 11 @ 3:32pm
Please forgive if I missed it but I didn't see me in the list. Again please forgive if I over looked it!
Dragos Verdes
February 12 @ 3:25pm
What name and year did you put on earliest ancestor on the paternal lineç'
Dragos Verdes
February 12 @ 3:28pm
?