My name is Sandra Palmer. I have recently volunteered to become an administrator for the Palmer Surname Project. The former administrators started some great work, and I hope to carry it on. I am new at this, so please be patient while I learn how to best manage this site. Suggestions, ideas, or volunteer help are all welcome. For now, I am leaving the information below as it was written by David and Jim Palmer. However, please note that links that they set up in 2007 may no longer be active. I would like to start a new lines of descent page with updated information. Watch for this to happen in the next few months. Thank you for being a part of the Palmer surname project. You may contact me at: firstname.lastname@example.org.
Please note that Family Tree now recommends that surname project members take a 37 marker or higher level Y-DNA test. In most cases, 12 marker DNA tests are not useful for surname project studies because they may produce "false-positive" results, and 25 marker studies are also often not definitive enough for reliable grouping.
Previous administrator info:
My name is David Palmer, and my co-administrator is Jim Palmer. My earliest known ancestor was Francis Palmer, chr. 1647 in Metheringham, county Lincoln. Jim's was William Palmer, who arrived in Plymouth Mass in 1621. DNA testing show these two Palmers were probably related in pre-historic times, but not in the more recent past. This may be true for many Palmer families.
Although there were several different reasons for the origin of this surname, the most common derives from pilgrims, mostly from England, to the Holy Land. From the crusades in the 12th century there were many such pilgrims, who made this dangerous journey; on their own in the beginning, and later protected by the Knights Templar. Upon the return of these pilgrims to England, with their palmer purses jingling, and palm branches affixed to their walking staves, they were called "palmers". In this manner there were many unrelated families that took on the surname of Palmer.
Although all of us are related within the human species, we hope that DNA testing can show which Palmer groups are related and which are not, since the advent of surnames sometime around the 12th century. With this in mind, we hope that many Palmer surnamed males will participate in the DNA testing, and share their ancestral history, documented or in oral traditions. It is only by this sharing, "one for all and all for one", that we can extend our understanding of the genetic, genealogic and historic past, as an individual, family, clan, tribe or species.All that having been said, wouldn't it be great if our geneticist friends could identify in the future a gene for pious dromomania, common to all Palmers?
Usually surnames are passed from father to children. Y-chromosomes are only passed from father to son. Because of this, only males surnamed Palmer (or variant spellings) can be included in the Palmer Surname Project after having tests done on the Y-chromosome. If you wish to participate in this project, but do not have the Palmer surname or a Y-chromosome, please consider asking a male surnamed Palmer in your family to be tested. Or, perhaps you could make a contribution in money so that male Palmers could be tested (please see the link under "General Fund" below). Please consider using a test of 25 or more markers, rather than the cheaper 12 marker test. The most common haplogroup for British men is R1b. After being tested, I also found myself in this group, and found more than a 100 matches in the FTDNA database who matched my 12 markers, 12 to 12, though none are surnamed Palmer. I had to upgrade to 37 to climb above these "false positives".
The more information we share amongst us, the better chance for individual and group success! Please visit our Lines of Descent page. It has links to member genealogies, charts showing Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor (TMRCA), and phylogenetic trees. The truth is out there, and we have the tools now to find it! David Palmer, 27 Oct 2007, Hong Kong Member, International Society of Genetic Genealogists (ISOGG) http://www.isogg.org Member, Society of Genealogists (SoG) http://www.sog.org.uk Member, General Society of Mayflower Descendants http://www.themayflowersociety.com
- [Ancestors: Alden, Bradford, Brewster, Hopkins, Mullins, Rogers & Winslow]
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