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Neely Genetic Groups

All YDNA projects appear to be comprised of several different genetic groups. We recognize a total of six Neely "branches" from the different genetic groupings that have evolved from participant's YDNA STR results. In order for a grouping to qualify as a branch, we have decided it must contain at least three Neely surnames (or spelling variant) of 37-marker haplotypes, with each having a FTDNA TiP calculation of 50% or more probability for a MRCA from the group average (modal haplotype) in the last 12 generations. This should be useful for looking at Neely history back to about 1500 or slightly earlier. The remaining participant groupings may or may not grow into a Neely branch in the future, depending on results of future participants.  A brief summary for each of the six Neely branches is shown below. 

1. Listed as the PA group, the 31 participant's results show a tightly related genetic group. The origin of this group appears to be from Scotland or perhaps England based on current information. The MRCA of several participants in this group, including Jim and Stephen, has been traced to Thomas Neely, who came from County Tyrone to PA about 1730 with his young family. At least two of his sons moved to the Carolinas about 1760. At this time, we have been unable to tie participants from this group to records of their family in Ulster, Ireland.

2. Listed as the VA group, the 36 participant's results show a slightly looser related genetic group that is related to the PA group. Comparison of the averages of this group and the first group above are exactly the same except for DYS570 and CDYa & b (markers 33, 34 and 35). One group must have mutated from the other sometime in the fairly distant past. Several of the participants of this group are descended from James Neely in Botetourt Co, VA in the 1700's whose brother, Dr. John, lived there and first married sisters in the Philadelphia area about 1740. Initially it was thought James and John were from NY (hence the original group name), but we have been unable to find evidence of this. Like the first group, they also appear to have originally come from Scotland or perhaps England. Also, several MRCA have been identified in the early 1700's as coming from Ulster from paper trail genealogy, but no connection to the records in Ireland have been established thus far.

3. Listed as the John Neely group, it is the most recent branch with 7 participants  (plus 3 others who have withdrawn) who have all completed testing with 111 markers. John Hill Neely is the MRCA for this group and was born about 1756 in Ireland and immigrated to America with his parents and siblings as a boy. It is a completely different haplotype where matches on YSearch.org could not be found. There are identified descendants living in Lancaster, SC and Cowetta, GA in addition to those from Mobile, AL who will be contacted to take the YDNA tests to better document this group. It could be possible this group may have originated from the MacConghaile Clan in the area around Galway in western Ireland, but they could equally have different origins. We have no evidence to even speculate at this time. There were two Gaelic native-Irish clans whose names eventually became McNeely, Neely, etc. after being Anglicized, probably starting around 1700 or so. The other was Mac an Fhilidh in Ulster.

4. Listed as the Mac an Fhilidh group, this 7-person (8 including a matching McNeely from the McNeely YDNA project) genetic grouping of Neelys and McNeelys is believed to be descended from bearers of the Gaelic surname Mac an Fhilidh. According to Woulfe and MacLysaght this Irish surname belongs originally to County Antrim and evidence for it can be found in Irish historical records, notably the Irish Annals of the Four Masters (in 1509) and the Annals of Lough Key (in the 1580s) as well as the English Fiants Elizabeth records (1590s). The surname is also to be found, from at least the 1400s in Galloway, in the south-west of Scotland (which was in this period also a Gaelic-speaking area). There is no doubt that some McNeillys from Galloway in Scotland came to back to Ulster and settled there in the 1600s.

 5. Listed as the McGregor group, this 6-person group all live in Ireland. They directly descend from the McGregor Clan. The McGregor history shows the Scottish government attempted to annihilate their clan beginning in 1603. Their very name was banned and the government planned to ship their male children 12 and older to Ireland and England based on the minutes of the 1611 Privy Council. We believe a Neely family in County Donegal likely adopted one of these McGregor boys (prompted by a subsidy).

 6. Listed as the Viking group, this 10-person group of Neelys have a 37-marker modal haplotype exactly the same as a large 40-person subgroup of McNeills, except for one step difference in marker 34 (CDYa). The haplogroup is I1a, which is associated with the Vikings. Thus, it seems likely that these 'matching' McNeills were most likely part of their clan living in the Hebrides islands where the Vikings settled, then mixed with them, and the Neelys in this branch are descended from them. Some of these early descendants may have migrated into western Scotland first and from there, perhaps adding an 'ie' to their name, then moved to Ulster, Ireland. Name changes that became McNeely and then dropping the Mc when arriving in Ireland were not uncommon in the early Plantation period of Ulster.

 Other Neely project participants have been identified as having at least a 50% chance of being related within 24 generations to at least one other participant. These participants have been assigned to four additional subgroups.

  7. Listed as the McDaniel group. This 2-person group, both using Neely, can trace their genealogical tree back to John “Buttermilk” Neely who was born 1785/1786 in VA, per his own Census answers, and died 1865 in Mercer Co., WV. A close BigY-700 match who shares SNP R-BY2604 indicates with high confidence that this line is related to the McDaniel men who lived in the area that became part of Monroe County, WV. (Part of Greenbrier County in 1785.) 
Probate records show that John Neely’s mother was Hannah (Gatliff) Neely d: 1826, Giles Co., VA, who appears to have been the widow of William Neely d: 1782 Rockbridge Co., VA. William appears to have been the son of John Neely of Rockbridge Co., VA, who may have been the common ancestor of Group 4 above.

 8. Listed as the Niall group. A Neely and a McNeely who possibly descend from the fifth century warlord Niall of the Nine Hostages. They match the main group of participants in the McNeely YDNA project.

 9. Listed as the TX group. A Neely and a Neeley who both currently reside in Texas.

10. Listed as the Wise Co., VA group. Ancestral link to Neelys in Wise Co., VA. They are under Haplogroup E-V13, though if they upgraded to BigY-700, they would probably be under haplogroup E-BY161160.
  • This group include lines that use  both Neely and Neeley. All of those lines in it go back to David Marion Neely (1764-1860), who married in Halifax County, Virginia, in 1791. 
  • They include lines descended from two different sons of David Marion Neely. But above him is uncertain.  
  • Research back to, at least 1991, proposed the parents of David Marion Neely were Robert Neely who died in Maury County, Tennessee about 1830, originally from Botetourt County, Virginia, who was a son of James Neely and Jane Grimes. By 2013, y-DNA of members of this project showed both of those relationships were impossible.  There currently 10 men with lines back to James Neely and Jane Grimes, with consistent Y-DNA in the R haplogroup. Those men all fall into Group 2 above. They currently include at least 2 men with lines back to the Robert Neely who died about 1830 in Maury County, Tennessee.
  • The Current distribution of haplogroup E-V13 has concentration in parts of Balkans. The common paternal line ancestor between the Group 10 and Group 2 men was born over 10,000 years ago.
  • The most common surname of close matches to the Neely/Neeley men have the Bays/Baise/Baze/Baize surname, and connect back to Virginia in the late 1600s or 1700s. More Neely/Neely and Bays (et. al.) upgrades to BigY-700 are required to determine if the Neely/Neeley men descend from a Bays (et. al.). Matches with this other surname are also welcome to join the Neely project.
Neely Common Ancestors

Genealogical lines of descent are listed in our Neely Project Common Ancestors document.

Traditional genealogy merges with YDNA mutations in these graphical representations of phylogenetic trees for the main Neely branches: Neely Project Phylogenetic Trees.

Please send comments and corrections to Stephen Neely.

Neely Haplogroups

Genetic groups that are defined by SNP are called haplogroups. This chart provides an overview of how our Neely subgroups are related to each other based on the SNPs that are shared by the members of these groups.

Each haplogroup has a story: 
 A17284, A17286, A17452, BY106059, BY17509, BY181041, BY201958, BY204995, BY2604, BY33528, BY33530, BY35367, BY35368, FGC44555, FT107341, FT169823, FT195801, FT21505, FT22039, FT255765, FT49014, FT49576, FT61320, FT74528, FT80295, FTA45370, FTB23634, FTB31714, FTB79771, FTB94369, FTC19221, FTC19228, FTD58753, FTD59862, FTF47215, FTF66505, S690, Y28807