This week we began the very long process of sorting through and identifying all the pictures found in my Grandmother's house. Many are old tintype pictures but thankfully some are paper and labeled. The Guthrie farm, considered the old home place in southern Ohio, was establlished in the early 1800. This picture is my great, great, grandfather, George Phineas Guthrie, wife Esther Ann Martin and from youngest to oldest, Frank Guthrie (my great-grandfather), Elmer "Ray" Guthrie, Alma Guthrie Blackwood, and Dr. Joseph Guthrie.
One Mystery Solved! More Found! GFG2 - Origin of Guthrie DNA / Ford Surname Match Those of you with a Y-DNA test in Guthrie Family Group 2A may have seen a Y37 marker match result to a man with the Ford surname. The majority of matches at the Y37, Y67 and Y111 levels are to men of the Guthrie surname, but we have a few matches to men of random surnames. These are presumably the result of paternal events, adoptions, remarriages, feudal law, or other random reasons for Guthrie DNA to be found in someone of a different surname. A few of these men have already joined the project so that we can determine which GFG2A branch they most closely match. Our Ford match has not yet done so, but an examination of our results shows he is a Genetic Distance of 2 from our Group Mode Results at the Y37 level, but is only a GD of 1 from others in Branch B, E, and K. That may suggest a slightly closer relationship to one of those branches. The good news is that Ford has a public tree that reveals how he and his Ford family ended up with Guthrie DNA. His direct paternal ancestor, John Francis Ford (1873-1926) was actually John Francis Guthrie, at least by DNA. This is a case of a boy assuming the surname of his stepfather. This branch of GFG2A will be labelled as 'Branch L'. It's progenitor is George Guthrie, middle initial C or K, born in Northern Ireland about 1830. There is no confirmed date of immigration, only a thirty year period between his birth and the birth of his first child in 1861 Vermont. George was a 'laborer'. His wife, Margaret Walker, was living in Alburg, Grand Isle County, Vermont during the 1860 census, 21, single, working as a domestic servant in the household of David Marvin. Margaret was born in England, and census records describe her has mulatto or black. (Slavery was abolished in England in 1833.) During her lifetime, Margaret gave birth to 8 children, only 5 of whom were living in 1900/1910 when the census records collected that info. At least 5 of the 8 were Guthrie daughters. 1 was Guthrie son John Francis Guthrie, who assumed the surname of his Ford stepfather. 2 are of unknown gender or Guthrie vs Ford origin. Daughter Evas Caroline Guthrie was the only one of the children born in Vermont. The other daughters were born in St Lawrence County, NY, and son John Francis was born in Franklin County, NY. The 1870 Hopkinton, St Lawrence, NY census is the only record currently found that lists George Guthrie. The 1875 NY State Census of Dickinson, Franklin, NY does not list George Guthrie. It lists Margaret Guthrie as 'now married' versus 'now widowed' and included all of the daughters, plus her son John Francis Guthrie, age 1. By 1880, Margaret has remarried to John B. Ford, a farmer living in Dickinson, Franklin, NY. Son John Francis is listed with the Ford surname. The daughters are all listed with the Guthrie surname. The remainder of John Francis (Guthrie) Ford's records list him with the Ford surname. So now we know how our Ford Y-DNA match ended up with Guthrie Y-DNA, but there are quite a few new questions to research. We don't know if George Guthrie came to the USA as a child or an adult. There is also a possibility that he came via Canada rather than directly to VT/NY. Alburg, Grand Isle, Vermont is on the Canadian border located on a peninsula that juts into Lake Champlain. Canada appears to be the most obvious route into Alburg unless you travel to it across the Lake.
(2/2) On Guthrie Street in Louisville, Kentucky.
(1/2) On Guthrie Street in Louisville, Kentucky.
This Remembrance Card has been passed down in my family for more than 100 years.
Today, I am officially creating Guthrie Family Group 15. This family group has been hanging out in our 'Ungrouped Lineages' area for quite a while. Usually, the groups are defined only by having two or more Y-DNA participants with matching DNA, but I am making an exception because we have about 20 descendants of Robert Guthrie 1750SC-1799GA & wife Elizabeth 'Betsy'____ who have joined our Family Finder Project. With every new participant I seem to find one or two new descendants. I think these folks deserve an official group title. (Plus it keeps me organized.) We definitely need some more Y-DNA participation from all of Robert & Betsy's eligible descendant branches. Like many of our groups, the Y-DNA shows evidence of a paternal event or adoption resulting in Y-DNA matches to a different surname. In this case, that surname is Barnett, which can be found in colonial Virginia as far back as the 1600s. I will chat with Franca & Rita over at "Our Guthrie Family". More details to come as this rolls out.