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This was a spin off of PF3359; for members within the PF3359 subgroup of Haplogroup G to find others and to compare Y-DNA test results and paternal origins for relatedness. More importantly, the major goal is to find new subgroups (or branches) which, in turn, explain our ancestors' migrations based on who comprises each branch. After a couple of years it was discovered to be more beneficial to treat G-Z7016 as its own unique group.
25 May 2017
We have some news linking two of the families in one of the subgroups of PF2822, predominated by members with the Harper surname, currently grouped together with DYS390=24. A member with the surname Shay suspected, based on the known location of his earliest known ancestor, Thomas C. Shay's (b. 1780 in Cornwall, Pennsylvania) birth, that he might be related to a G2a Harper family that lived in the same location as Thomas's reputed (but undocumented) family at the same time, headed by Thomas Harper (b. ca. 1731 in Berks/Lancaster, PA, married to Mary Stenson). A 37 marker yDNA test showed a match to this family with GD=1. Through autosomal DNA testing and analysis, he was able to determine that his family was indeed closely related to this Harper family, and very likely descended from it. Mr. Shay's paternal uncle had a match of 33.9 cM with a descendant of Thomas Harper's son, John Harper (b. 1756 in Berks/Lancaster, PA), and large matches with other descendants of John Harper, making it likely that they shared a common ancestor within 6 generations with 90% certainty (according to the ISOGG wiki). John Harper was exactly 6 generations before his uncle. This would have been a so-called "non-paternal event"—John Harper was married to a different woman than Thomas Shay's likely mother at the time of Thomas's birth. Through further autosomal analysis, he was able to determine that he is indeed related to the Shay family from which Thomas supposedly came. It is surmised that a Shay woman (possibly Eleanor Shay, b. 1758 in Cornwall, PA) had Thomas Shay out of wedlock with John Harper, and that is how this particular Shay family became Shays instead of Harpers, the surname coming from the maternal rather than paternal line. In order to help further support this research, we encourage any male Harper descendants of Thomas Harper to join this group. We are especially interested in seeing the results of a 67 or 111 marker yDNA test.
25 May 2017
We have some news linking two of the families in one of the subgroups of PF2822, predominated by members with the Harper surname, currently grouped together with DYS390=24. A member with the surname Shay suspected, based on the known location of his earliest known ancestor, Thomas C. Shay's (b. 1780 in Cornwall, Pennsylvania) birth, that he might be related to a G2a Harper family that lived in the same location as Thomas's reputed (but undocumented) family at the same time, headed by Thomas Harper (b. ca. 1731 in Berks/Lancaster, PA, married to Mary Stenson). A 37 marker yDNA test showed a match to this family with GD=1. Through autosomal DNA testing and analysis, he was able to determine that his family was indeed closely related to this Harper family, and very likely descended from it. Mr. Shay's paternal uncle had a match of 33.9 cM with a descendant of Thomas Harper's son, John Harper (b. 1756 in Berks/Lancaster, PA), and large matches with other descendants of John Harper, making it likely that they shared a common ancestor within 6 generations with 90% certainty (according to the ISOGG wiki). John Harper was exactly 6 generations before his uncle. This would have been a so-called "non-paternal event"—John Harper was married to a different woman than Thomas Shay's likely mother at the time of Thomas's birth. Through further autosomal analysis, he was able to determine that he is indeed related to the Shay family from which Thomas supposedly came. It is surmised that a Shay woman (possibly Eleanor Shay, b. 1758 in Cornwall, PA) had Thomas Shay out of wedlock with John Harper, and that is how this particular Shay family became Shays instead of Harpers, the surname coming from the maternal rather than paternal line. In order to help further support this research, we encourage any male Harper descendants of Thomas Harper to join this group. We are especially interested in seeing the results of a 67 or 111 marker yDNA test.