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G-L497 Y-DNA

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Rolf Langland Rolf Langland
Admin
April 20 @ 10:01am
9 Comments
Rolf Langland
April 21 @ 10:47pm
Jovan - the charts include the names of persons who have done BigY testing that identified a new branch - there is simply not room to put names of every project member on these charts - someone else may perhaps wish to do that task, but these charts are to serve a different purpose. There is no slight intended to anyone. Sigh.
Dominik Kot
April 22 @ 5:15am
Rolf check on Kit: N51539
Jovan Bojanic
April 22 @ 3:14pm
Rolf, it's not about that. I know that main point of these charts are branches which have been discovered through BigY's and not persons who have done single SNP or SNP packs tests, but when there are almost all YSC33+ SNP persons I don't see any reason to do not put me on chart. Again, nothing offensive, just my digression. I'm sory that I have started this discussion, you are welcome to delete it. Again, my mistake. My support to this Project team to continue with great work.
Robert Flachs
10 hours ago
Rolf L., thank you for including the Roman soldier from c. 300 AD in the chart as I think this is very important as these “ancient” samples are rare. I can only wonder what his location in Munich means for our story as the Z40854 MRCA is dated to 500 BC and L42’s MRCA 1,600 BC. Does this show a link with the Etruscans and then Rhaetians?
ROBERT McGREGOR ROBERT McGREGOR has a question!
Yesterday at 8:17am
Rolf or Brian - I wanted to ask a question about the new BigY-700 and when I upgrade to this product, will this cover all new SNPs in L-497v2 and what else can I personally expect from further testing BigY-700 my Kit# 521191 and Ty for your time.
Rolf Carlsson
Yesterday at 9:55am
Yes, Big700 always covers all other SNP Tests.
ROBERT McGREGOR
Yesterday at 10:09am
Ty Rolf, I looked at Haplo-SNP Chart and below my FGC-34823 were other SNPs highlighted in blue... could I possibly be positive for one of those and if so are those covered in BigY700 or would I have to order those as a separate snp?
Rolf Carlsson
Yesterday at 2:12pm
The Big700 covers all SNPs. As result your test will define a new branch as well as define all SNPs unique for you below that branch. Once you order the Big700 you shall not order any single SNP test. In simple words you start from the nearest branch being positive for you and continue ”out to the leaves”.
ROBERT McGREGOR
Yesterday at 8:33pm
Ty Rolf,
Joaquim António Félix Cunha Joaquim António Félix Cunha
April 22 @ 8:29am
Hi, I made the Y111, subclade CTS4803: Should I do the new G-L497v2 SNP pack? Thanks
9 Comments
Walter Williamson
April 23 @ 9:03am
Joaquim asked? "Hi, I made the Y111, subclade CTS4803: Should I do the new G-L497v2 SNP pack?" Rolf answered: "No, it makes no sense, as your predicted SNP is below the tests of the Pack. See the red circles on the chart CTS4803." I agree with Rolf Carlsson. You say you are negative for the SNP's that the G-L497v2 SNP Pack tests for. Taking the test would only confirm that you are negative for them but probably wouldn't give you any positive information. With possibly one exception. But it would be a high odds exception. According to the chart the G-497v2 SNP Pack tests for G-S15656 and you didn't say you are negative for it. When I did the old G-L497 SNP Pack, this SNP wasn't in it so I was left with terminal CTS4803. I took the Big Y 500 and discovered that I was G-S15656 with 22 Private/Novel SNP's. I am not saying to take the test or not take it or even suggesting taking a more comprehensive test, I'll leave those recommendations to Admins, who are way more knowledgeable than myself. I just wanted to point out that there is a slight possibility that you might be G-S15656 since you aren't negative for it and that SNP is in the test. I don't know if it would give you any of the Novel SNP's that would be below it. I of course have a vested interest in anyone who might test G-S15656 and below, since that is what I am and hanging out on a limb by myself, waiting for company. Have you been predicted for G-Z31329? I don't see how that can be possible if you are negative for G-Z42514. Maybe Rolf or Mauricio can comment on this possibility?
Mauricio Cattel
April 23 @ 11:50am
Walter, I don't know why he's in that group. Among the SNPs immediatly below G-CTS4803 so far, he tested only one, and he's negative for it.
Rolf Carlsson
April 23 @ 3:08pm
For general understanding I have clarified the present situation in an email directly with Joaquim. As this is personal related I will continue with a direct dialogue in this matter.
Joaquim António Félix Cunha
Yesterday at 7:37am
Many thanks Rolf, fully understood.
Dominik Kot Dominik Kot
April 23 @ 2:45am
Can anyone explain this to me? I see it as 17% West African. How does this come about? I don't see how its possible for Eastern Europe.
1 Comment
Dominik Kot
April 23 @ 12:23pm
I worry that this might be an error in the new big y testing.
Mauricio Cattel
April 23 @ 12:36pm
Fellows, there is nothing wrong with it. They're reporting "Autosomal origin", not most distant known patrilineal ancestor's. The origin of MDKA in male line, yes, is vinculated to Y-DNA. So, for example, you may be mainly Native American in ancestry, African, Asian or whatever, and still have an European Y-DNA. The same way, one may be mainly European in autosomal and still have, say, an East Asian Y-DNA (if, for instance, his paternal grandfather is Japanese). Indeed, if you click on Countries' tab, you'll see there is no West African, because this one shows self-reported paternal (patrilineal) origin, and this is the one which matters more for Y-DNA in specific.
Dominik Kot
April 23 @ 12:47pm
So does this mean I had a West African as a Grandfather 300 years ago ? :)
Mauricio Cattel
April 23 @ 12:53pm
No, it doesn't mean. If you had, it'd have nothing to do with it, absolutely. Notice that G-S18765 is directly associated to a paternal line only. They are just saying that, among the men G-S18765 in database, there are some who have African ancestry, which doesn't mean their patrilineal ancestors were African. Again an example: if your paternal grandfather is Japanese and the other three grandparents are, say, Norwegian, you'd have 75% of European ancestry, 25% of East Asian ancestry, and a Y-DNA from East Asia. Just an example. If you do wanna know more about the origin of your "Y-DNA" matches' paternal ancestors, then you have to use the tab "Countries", to the right. There you find the self-reported origins.
Rolf Langland Rolf Langland
Admin
April 20 @ 10:00am
4 Comments
jeffrey andle
April 22 @ 4:40pm
I figured either that or the Yfull answer - "we think you are a new subclade and will create L667 when there is another". All good either way.
jeffrey andle
April 22 @ 4:41pm
and, no, Rolf, I am not asking you to 'add me now'... :)
Bill Tatum
April 23 @ 9:49am
Rolf, what is the reason for the dotted circle around Z30791?
Mauricio Cattel
April 23 @ 11:42am
Bill, it means the SNP Z30791 is tested in the new SNP Pack.
Bill Tatum Bill Tatum
April 22 @ 8:57am
Noticed that YFull is now offering a new service that will gives analysis of mitoDNA FASTA , changing the tree and estimating an age of each subclade. Is this worth the investment for me?
jeffrey andle
April 22 @ 4:39pm
it was a cheap investment, but I cannot say i learned as much from it as I did from the haplogroup project here.
jeffrey andle jeffrey andle
April 17 @ 12:09am
Looking at the Y-matches I have a few 12-STR matches and in 25GD2... but looking in the project data under Z41143+,Z41144- group, I match 21/30 23/30, 46/57 (4 times) and 80(102). Are these just too far a GD for the match algorithms to list or are there people in this project that are not letting others see they match outside the project? Are these large GD matches on longer STR lists more relevant than 12/12 or 23/25? Technically the latter is 23/37 since that is the test he took...
Mauricio Cattel
April 21 @ 8:04am
Jeff, if the numbers are correct, imo they seem too far, so not so informative.
jeffrey andle
April 21 @ 4:07pm
OK, but it is calling 12 STR matches on people that took bigger tests so i was not sure what to make of that.
Rolf Langland Rolf Langland
Admin
April 20 @ 10:00am
Rolf Langland
April 20 @ 10:05am
Updated Chart B (G-Z16775 and subclades) under YDNA G-L497 - and showing SNPs included in new G-L497 SNP Packv2. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oL58PHO16TjIyRKQ1KwQ2ufndkhjn-Fr
Rolf Carlsson
April 20 @ 11:51am
Very interesting with all updated charts.
Rolf Langland Rolf Langland
Admin
April 20 @ 10:01am
Rolf Langland
April 20 @ 10:03am
Updated tree of YDNA G-L497 (upper part of tree) - and showing SNPs included in new G-L497 SNP Packv2. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1y5e4mPWGOlZGK1HoLX-0VEY1Bk4lgXLE
Rolf Carlsson Rolf Carlsson
Admin
April 18 @ 1:49pm
Please note that Ftdna is offering tests at reduced prices during one week. I e Big700 up to USD 200 discount. IF you consider additional test use this opportunity.
Mauricio Cattel
April 18 @ 3:30pm
G-L497v2 SNP Pack was released!!!
Rolf Carlsson
April 19 @ 9:27am
As Mauricio mentioned above the new SNP Pack has been introduced after intensive preparations. This week at introduction price of USD 89. In order to get a more precise categorization use this opportunity.