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Y-DNA Results Confirm Traditional Genealogical Record for Descendants of Ralph-Alice
Y-DNA results (a Y25, a Y67, and a Y111) for three descendants of Ralph and Alice Farnum are close
matches. All three have pedigrees documented in Russell Clare Farnham's published genealogy for the
descendants of Ralph Farnham the Immigrant. The closest relationship is 6th cousin twice removed.
The most distant is 9th cousin once removed where the most recent common ancestor is Ralph the
Immigrant. Having close matches between three widely separated branches on the Farnham/Farnum
family tree is a genetic genealogy "home run" by confirming large swaths of the traditional genealogical
record.
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[A link will be added to the chart comparing the matches]
George Farnham (Y-25) has a single digit difference when compared to Jim and David.
David Farnham (Y-111) has a single digit difference when compared to George and Jim.
Jim Farnum (Y-67) has an additional single digit difference when compared to David.
The MRCA for Jim and David is 11 generations. The TIP report prediction was 95% at 11
generations.
These three tests establish a baseline for the descendants of Ralph/Alice. If you match Jim or
David, chances are very good that your paternal line includes a Farnham, Farnum or Farnam.
Y-DNA Results Confirm Uncommon Subclade for Descendants of Ralph-Alice
The Y-25/37/67/111 tests look at Short Tandem Repeats (STRs) which change often enough
to be useful for genealogical research. Tests that look at Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms
(SNPs, pronounced "snips") peer deeper into the mists of time. STRs predict one's male
haplogroup. SNPs can confirm it. One Farnham descendant of Ralph/Alice has taken all
the SNP tests available from Family Tree DNA for his haplogroup. The results take us back
5,000 years and fall more appropriately under a different project: G-PF3146/PF3147 Y-DNA.
If you are a Farnham/Farnum/Farnam who has taken the SNP tests, please join that project
and share your results. In time, this may help us understand from whence came the first
Farnhams in England.
More Y-DNA Tests by Farnham Group Members
We have identified two groups of Farnhams belonging to different haplogroups:
-- Dorset (England) Farnhams in haplogroup R1b (R-M269)
-- Kent & Possibly Cambridgeshire (England) Farnhams in haplogroup G2a (G-M201)
The Kent group includes all the Farnhams in the US who have tested and appear to be
descendants of the immigrant Ralph Farnum who arrived at Boston in September 1635.
-- Kit B53726 is a 9th great-grandson of Ralph
-- Kit 38832 is a 7th great-grandson of Ralph
-- Kit B353920 may be a 7th great-grandson of Ralph
-- Kit N76723 (a match but not a member of the group) is an 8th great-grandson of Ralph
-- Match "WRF" (not a member of the group) is believed to be an 8th great-grandson of Ralph
Each new test adds to the trail back to 16th century England.
Y-DNA results (a Y25, a Y67, and a Y111) for three descendants of Ralph and Alice Farnum are close
matches. All three have pedigrees documented in Russell Clare Farnham's published genealogy for the
descendants of Ralph Farnham the Immigrant. The closest relationship is 6th cousin twice removed.
The most distant is 9th cousin once removed where the most recent common ancestor is Ralph the
Immigrant. Having close matches between three widely separated branches on the Farnham/Farnum
family tree is a genetic genealogy "home run" by confirming large swaths of the traditional genealogical
record.
George Farnham (Y-25) has a single digit difference when compared to Jim and David.
David Farnham (Y-111) has a single digit difference when compared to George and Jim.
Jim Farnum (Y-67) has an additional single digit difference when compared to David.
The MRCA for Jim and David is 11 generations. The TIP report prediction was 95% at 11
generations.
These three tests establish a baseline for the descendants of Ralph/Alice. If you match Jim or
David, chances are very good that your paternal line includes a Farnham, Farnum or Farnam.
Y-DNA Results Confirm Uncommon Subclade for Descendants of Ralph-Alice
The Y-25/37/67/111 tests look at Short Tandem Repeats (STRs) which change often enough
to be useful for genealogical research. Tests that look at Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms
(SNPs, pronounced "snips") peer deeper into the mists of time. STRs predict one's male
haplogroup. SNPs can confirm it. One Farnham descendant of Ralph/Alice has taken all
the SNP tests available from Family Tree DNA for his haplogroup. The results take us back
5,000 years and fall more appropriately under a different project: G-PF3146/PF3147 Y-DNA.
If you are a Farnham/Farnum/Farnam who has taken the SNP tests, please join that project
and share your results. In time, this may help us understand from whence came the first
Farnhams in England.
More Y-DNA Tests by Farnham Group Members
We have identified two groups of Farnhams belonging to different haplogroups:
-- Dorset (England) Farnhams in haplogroup R1b (R-M269)
-- Kent & Possibly Cambridgeshire (England) Farnhams in haplogroup G2a (G-M201)
The Kent group includes all the Farnhams in the US who have tested and appear to be
descendants of the immigrant Ralph Farnum who arrived at Boston in September 1635.
-- Kit B53726 is a 9th great-grandson of Ralph
-- Kit 38832 is a 7th great-grandson of Ralph
-- Kit B353920 may be a 7th great-grandson of Ralph
-- Kit N76723 (a match but not a member of the group) is an 8th great-grandson of Ralph
-- Match "WRF" (not a member of the group) is believed to be an 8th great-grandson of Ralph
Each new test adds to the trail back to 16th century England.
Status of Y-DNA testing for Kent subgroup (Ralph/Alice line) as of June 2023
What follows is extremely detailed genetic data that should apply to all members of the Kent
subgroup. It is provided here to share what you should expect to learn if you take Family
Tree DNA's Big-Y test.
subgroup. It is provided here to share what you should expect to learn if you take Family
Tree DNA's Big-Y test.
Two members of the subgroup have taken Big-Y and crossloaded their results to YFull.
One member of the subgroup has taken FTDNA's Y-111, another Y-67, and a third Y-25.
This gives the subgroup five data points for whom the Most Recent Common Ancestor is Ralph
Farnum the Immigrant. The two who have taken the Big-Y and crossloaded their data to YFull
have confirmed haplogroups that should apply to all direct male biological descendants of Ralph
the Immigrant. (Y-DNA is passed from father to son to son, etc.)
Here are the SNPs (Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms) that distinguish our subclade from the
rest of humanity going back about 3,200 years. This is the technical data placing us on our
unique, tiny twig on the human family tree--in our case, for haplogroup G.
Farnum the Immigrant. The two who have taken the Big-Y and crossloaded their data to YFull
have confirmed haplogroups that should apply to all direct male biological descendants of Ralph
the Immigrant. (Y-DNA is passed from father to son to son, etc.)
Here are the SNPs (Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms) that distinguish our subclade from the
rest of humanity going back about 3,200 years. This is the technical data placing us on our
unique, tiny twig on the human family tree--in our case, for haplogroup G.
FTDNA G-BY197092
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/y-dna-haplotree/G;name=G-BY197092
BY197092, BY196923, BY197061, BY197083, BY197125, BY197152, BY197240, BY197267,
BY197342, BY197365, BY197376, BY197408, BY197409, BY197454, BY197474, BY197560,
BY197675, BY197854, BY216415, BY219959, BY223307, BY51413, BY55, FGC5732, FT113418,
FT114483, FT114896, FT116079, FT117529, FT119719, FT120061, FT438548, FT445780,
FT450614, FT85130, Y96069
ISOGG 2019-2020 G2a2a1a2a1a1a1b~
BY196923, BY196962, BY197061, BY197083, BY197092, BY197125, BY197152, BY197240,
BY197267, BY197342, BY197365, BY197376, BY197454, BY197474, BY197560, BY197620,
BY197675, BY197854, Y96069.2
YFull G-BY55
https://www.yfull.com/tree/G-BY55/
BY197408 * BY197409 * FT117529 * BY197454 * BY197474 * BY216415 * BY197675 *
BY223307 * BY219959 * FT119719 * FT114896 * BY197061 * BY197083 * BY197092 *
BY197125 * FT116079 * BY197560 * FT445780 * BY197240 * BY197267 * BY197342 *
BY197365 * BY197376 * FT120061(H) * FT114483(H) * Y418490 * FT113418(H) *
FT114282(H) * BY197854 * BY197152 * BY212866(H) * Y96069 * BY196923 * FT85130 *
FT113292(H) * BY55 * FGC37373
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/y-dna-haplotree/G;name=G-BY197092
BY197092, BY196923, BY197061, BY197083, BY197125, BY197152, BY197240, BY197267,
BY197342, BY197365, BY197376, BY197408, BY197409, BY197454, BY197474, BY197560,
BY197675, BY197854, BY216415, BY219959, BY223307, BY51413, BY55, FGC5732, FT113418,
FT114483, FT114896, FT116079, FT117529, FT119719, FT120061, FT438548, FT445780,
FT450614, FT85130, Y96069
ISOGG 2019-2020 G2a2a1a2a1a1a1b~
BY196923, BY196962, BY197061, BY197083, BY197092, BY197125, BY197152, BY197240,
BY197267, BY197342, BY197365, BY197376, BY197454, BY197474, BY197560, BY197620,
BY197675, BY197854, Y96069.2
YFull G-BY55
https://www.yfull.com/tree/G-BY55/
BY197408 * BY197409 * FT117529 * BY197454 * BY197474 * BY216415 * BY197675 *
BY223307 * BY219959 * FT119719 * FT114896 * BY197061 * BY197083 * BY197092 *
BY197125 * FT116079 * BY197560 * FT445780 * BY197240 * BY197267 * BY197342 *
BY197365 * BY197376 * FT120061(H) * FT114483(H) * Y418490 * FT113418(H) *
FT114282(H) * BY197854 * BY197152 * BY212866(H) * Y96069 * BY196923 * FT85130 *
FT113292(H) * BY55 * FGC37373
All three subclade designations (G-BY197092, G2a2a1a2a1a1a1b, and G-BY55) get us to the
same place: a distinct branch off G-FGC5697. There is another branch off G-FGC5697 to our
nearest but ancient German cousins.
If you have any questions about this, please contact the administrators.
same place: a distinct branch off G-FGC5697. There is another branch off G-FGC5697 to our
nearest but ancient German cousins.
If you have any questions about this, please contact the administrators.