East Anglia

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Paul Brooker Paul Brooker
May 14 @ 5:12pm
Anyone interested in Norfolk genealogy, history, or archaeology. might enjoy (or may not), some of my posts from the ground: https://paulbrooker.posthaven.com/tag/norfolk
Joseph (Joe) Blackburn
May 30 @ 12:16am
Paul Brooker - Yes. They've requested that I test with YSEQ. Just got the kit today. FTDNA confirmed at G-M201. I ran through NEVGEN and World Haplogroup & Haplo-I Subclade Predictor, and they came up with G2a2b2a1c - Z724. Ray Banks is checking for FGC348, or a possible new group below that. (Possibly a new mutation off the 1000 Genome Man (CTS271)). I plan to do other SNP's and extend to Y-111, but as funds allow...
Mark Elliott
June 5 @ 11:54am
Tested with YSEQ kit # 4069 (FTDNA kit # 101829), but results are not on FTDNA page. Most of Group descended from Daniel of Salem witch trial to Daniel test; R-M269>U106>S12025>S16361>A6719 , but I am to Johnathan Sr and test; R-M269>U106>S12025>S16361>A6722 with question because only one in separate lineage. Question is how to put these YSEQ results into the FTDNA page. If anyone can help would really appreciate it.
Joseph (Joe) Blackburn
June 5 @ 11:11pm
Mark Elliott - I've been thinking about the same issue. My testings is also going to YSEQ, presumably because they currently have tests for subclades that FTDNA does not, and which are not part of the SNP packs. I do wish that FTDNA would accept the YSEQ results, and then update the Haplogroup. I am sure there are number of us in this lifeboat...
June 9 @ 9:39pm
the appropriate haplogroup ... project, generally get around the problem by listing the tested or inferred SNPs in their subgroup/clad headings. With Joe's sample, the G ... projects already have broken the branches down along way. I'm not sure of Mark's, as the branch of U106 is not that common [from memory]. Joe, with no close matches, expanding to 111 STR test, is probably not that useful.
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Mark Elliott Mark Elliott
May 29 @ 3:20pm
http://named.publicprofiler.org/ http://worldnames.publicprofiler.org/Main.aspx George Wilson 4 hours ago "Greetings All, I am researching WILSON in and about West Harling, Norfolk, amongst other names. My furthest WILSON is in Costessey, Norfolk and is born in 1761." It is felt if family of Costessey, Norfolk, then likely migrated, into Anglia from Denmark, with the name Willsen, changed to Willson, in Anglia, then changed to Wilson, of England/Scotland. So in the region of Costessey, Norfolk would consider also the spelling of Willson with double "Ls" in the research. Tendency; Wilsen, north in Denmark, and Wilson, north in the British Isles.
George Wilson George Wilson
May 29 @ 10:54am
Greetings All, I am researching WILSON in and about West Harling, Norfolk, amongst other names. My furthest WILSON is in Costessey, Norfolk and is born in 1761.
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Joseph (Joe) Blackburn
Mark Elliott
April 28 @ 10:44pm
Joe Blackburn, One indication from Norfolk to Lancashire, could be of surname seeding, which with my unique R-U106 among the Elliott is indicative of this. Match few Blackburn of a unique SNP, your may want to see if you get good number of exact matches at the twelve marker level, and see if they are locality oriented in a certain region; http://gorrenberry.com/geographic-surname-dna-correlation/
Joseph (Joe) Blackburn
May 2 @ 12:32am
Thanks Mark - this is quite helpful. Still waiting for delayed results. May 24th, batch 727. There must be something "non-standard" - that's almost four months processing time, and a second sample sent. Eager to got comparing matches - two cousins have tested on my Dad's maternal line, but I am the only one in this group to be a "direct male line heir".
Joseph (Joe) Blackburn
May 13 @ 3:10am
Our Family Finder is posted, Y-67 should be up soon... (It's been a long wait...)
Joseph (Joe) Blackburn
May 23 @ 6:45am
Mark Elliott, et al... Y-67 Results are available. Haplogroup G-M201 (G2a2b2a1c - Z724). But being additionally tested for CTS342, and a possible new branch. At first, I was gobstopped, as others in my group were all R-M269 (r1b) types. The Norfolk Blackburn DNA is apparently very ancient and far-flung!
Steve Rush Steve Rush
May 20 @ 2:19am
Crikey I got my 37 YDNA back and frankly it looks like a lot of nonsense, at the moment, as soon as I can I will find out how to turn it into a GEDmatch, I cant see a single match with anyone from East Anglia which suprises me since my family were all ag labs and I know how comfy haystacks are. I dont suppose I would know what to do with a haplotree even if it would download and an R-M269 well I always knew I was common. lol
May 21 @ 7:16am
Mark Elliott 22 hours ago Steve Rush, Related to Rush, concluded with dad, Benjamin Rush, out of Virginia, but not of Dr Benjamin Rush, signer of The Declaration of Independence; http://www.elwald.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Loren-S-Elliott-Rush-Family-Research-documents.pdf Some of dad's research on the Rush line. Use link; http://www.elwald.com/genealogy-by-dad-loren-s/, search text for "Mark Stephen" like in Mark Stephen Elliott, and you will find what dad wrote about me. Maybe a second generation genealogist, but feel I also have the background and knowledge to integrate, math, science, engineering with help of Y-DNA. Finding by the time there come to the final analysis, with all that data, the Y-DNA experts they seem to forget what a genealogists is try to find, and that is family. Like it saids, across the street west of the Later Day Saint's, Temple Square, on the front of The Family History Library, in Salt Lake City, Utah; "Find Your Ancestors-Find Yourself". .... [sorry Mark, but I've editated the rest out as I don't think it is relevant to Steve's comments. Editor
Mark Elliott
May 22 @ 7:32pm
Get a little wordy, and Steve received the message, so it could have used some editing at the time. Thank You
Mark Grace Mark Grace
May 13 @ 4:54am
Hi - Just joined. I am hoping Y-DNA will eventually break through a brickwall regarding my GRACE family, whose patriarch comes from Colchester, Essex. Nothing is known about his origins until he shows up for his marriage in Kent in 1836. He was born abt 1811-1812. There are no family tales of his origins, and his only son was named after his mother-in-law's 2nd husband. He signed at his marriage in an expert hand. All this suggests he was an orphan (and therefore was educated at an orphan school or "hospital" institution). There is no baptism and he was probably given the name GRACE by the church. Therefore, I am looking for a match to any family name. Our haplotype is proven from matching cousinal Y-DNA to 67 markers, however there are no surnames yet on any database that match beyond about 12 markers, so we are a long way from being identified. Why East Anglia? - His reported origins are Colchester on many census entries, however as a well-known garrison town, his father may have been a soldier from anywhere! My project page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/FamilyofJeremiahGrace/ - My webpage with full synopsis: http://creativegraces.net/genindex/gracefamily.html
1 Comment
May 14 @ 6:21pm
I spent some time looking online, but found nothing more than you have. I tend to think your second idea of a change of spelling from Grice to Grace, might be more likely. The Grice name seems common enough in the region, while Grace as a surname barely existed in EA. And there is no patern of names to even distant matches.
Mark Grace
May 17 @ 6:13am
The lack of baptism aside, I hope there will be a haplotype for GRICE in due course. The change from GRICE is one that I have had from the earliest days (this search has been going since about 1980), however the lack of near family (despite the relative abundance in EA) and his obvious good education (only available to the rich or orphans at the time) has me leaning towards the orphan situation for now. I always remain open to suggestions, but the lack of baptism is a stumbling block. Even as an orphan with the church, one may have expected him to have been registered with a baptism.
May 21 @ 7:45am
While there would have been records if a child was taken into care of the parish, orphanage, workhouse etc, not all survive. It was not uncommon to have children living with relatives, grandparents etc. One or both parents died, and the sister takes the children in; the eldest daughter has a child out of wedlock, who then becomes part of the family. Sometimes you can spot it in the census: as the wife of the head of the household would have been too old to have been the mother of the youngest child. I've read, some women took on unwanted children for a fee. Others might have adopted the child, and never recorded. I don't have to look far for an example, my son was left with me when he was 3, there is nothing in writing, So it still happens.
Mark Grace
May 22 @ 5:55am
I have now applied the technique outlined by Dr. Tyrone Bowes (see YouTube video) on my FTDNA matches, which indicates the more distant geographical origins of those surnames with the closest matches (c1000 AD). The pattern suggests Northern England/Northern Ireland, Scotland, Celtic Ireland, France & Bavaria. As there are no matching surnames, this is additional support to the theory that my 3xGGF paternity was by a man not necessarily from East Anglia.
Mark Elliott Mark Elliott
May 14 @ 7:14pm
Mark Grace, A technique which may be used to start. 1. Go to FTDNA Dashboard 2. Click on matches 3. Search a. The Entire Data Base b. At 111 Markers c. With a distance of All d. "Last Names Starts With" leave Blank. Check numbers of each surname. Then search to see if they were at a or near a similar locality....
Mark Grace
May 17 @ 6:31am
Thanks, Mark. I do this every six months or so as may data has been with FTDNA for about a decade. I have done some SNP tests in the intervening years. I am also on YBase, etc. The only match is my 3rd cousin, whose test I partially paid for to ensure I had a reliable haplotype. He is the furthest genetic distance on our family tree from our MRCA. Until recently there were no matches beyond Y-DNA12, although a few more are emerging in recent months as testing has become more popular. There is 1GD match a Y-DNA37 for a SPENCE in Canada, with no relevant location info. There is a 2GD match at Y-DNA111 for a GUMLAW, and a few others that I have been following up. The most recent ones were posted in Feb & Mar of this year. I have not received responses or sufficient information to blog about it yet.
Mark Alliston
May 17 @ 3:11pm
What does the Tip report say on your matches? I only have matches on 25 markers and below and then I only have 3 at 2GD but I know we had connections with at least one of those 3 from about 500 years ago ( 20 generations) which is quite close to what the TiP report says with 97% at 24 generations.
Mark Elliott
May 19 @ 10:02pm
Mark Grace, If you matching a Gumlaw, at 111, likely from New York or Massachusetts. Because there are an extremely small number, this is where I would try my best to make contact.
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