FAQ
Corca Laidhe yDNA Regional Study
FAQLast Updated: July 14, 2024 (redid for development environment compatibility)Read before clicking JOINProspective members who have any questions ABOUT THE PROJECT after reading the materials here should email Susan at corcalaidhedna @ earthlink.net. If you expect us to see your email and want a reply, copy and paste the exact phrase CORCA LAIDHE PROJECT into the subject line of your email. Otherwise it will be deleted as spam. Emails must be BRIEF. Do NOT send attachments. Other than for project members, we do NOT advise on your own DNA results by private email. Search FTDNA for relevant surname and haplogroup projects or check our LINKS.If you have not already done so, read the project Overview, Background, and Goals pages before reading this page. Project members are expected to be committed to the goals of the project.
You are NOT necessarily expected to know exactly (village or townland) where your earliest known paternal line ancestor came from, though presumably it is somewhere in the British Isles.
WHAT'S ON THIS PAGE1. Grant special permission to the project when submit your JOIN request. BEFORE submitting your request read the rest of this page FIRST and make sure you are eligible and your FTDNA account is ready.
2. Summary of eligibility requirements.
3. Privacy Concerns. We do NOT publish your name or contact information.
4. FTDNA Account Setup and Family History Preparation.
5. Additional Project Information.
(1) Grant Permission to the ProjectProject members must submit permission for their ANONYMIZED data to be utilized for project purposes WHEN THEY CLICK JOIN.
If you are not willing to do so, you need not read any further. Thanks for your attention anyway, and good luck with your research endeavors.
If you wish to participate in this study...
After reading this page through, make sure your FTDNA account set up is completed. Then COPY AND PASTE THE FOLLOWING TEXT INTO THE JOIN WINDOW when you click JOIN:
The Corca Laidhe Y DNA Regional Project is hereby granted permission to utilize my ANONYMIZED Y results, paternal line family history and paternal line origins in published research on Internet websites, published papers, and talks and conferences that are not affiliated with FTDNA. If I am not the tester I am authorized by the tester to contribute his data to this study. I have tested 111 markers or Big Y at FTDNA or have one of those tests ordered. I have read the project FAQ and have completed account readiness requirements to the best of my ability.(2) Summary of Eligibility Requirements✔ Surname. The tester's last name must unambiguously be in our list of surnames. If you are a Y DNA match to someone with a Corca Laidhe surname and you do not have a Corca Laidhe surname, that does not make you eligible.
The surname must be unambiguous; the project does not make exceptions (name changes, adoptions, etc.)
✔ Interest Level. Members should have an innate interest in the history of the Corca Laidhe region (roughly a J shape overlaid on the southern part of Ireland, from Kerry through Cork and up through northern Munster) and be committed to the project goals, otherwise they may lose interest and leave the project. Members must be willing to share data with the project and with matches.
✔ Research Experience. Members are expected to have SOME experience with genealogy record sources and to have researched their paternal lines, even if only back two or three generations. If your research is "stuck", that's okay.
✔ Familiarity with FTDNA Account. You should know how to edit your family tree and account settings in your FTDNA account, or be willing and able to learn to do so. Links to written and illustrated instructions are included below in (#4.)
✔ Y DNA Testing. A Y DNA STR test of 111 markers or Big Y is required upon enrollment, with the Y-DNA test ON ORDER or COMPLETED. SOME experience in reading, interpreting and handling your Y results.
Results from other testing companies are NOT accepted if they are not 100% match-enabled at FTDNA.
See (4)(a) below.
✔ Account Name and Contact details are set up in a project-friendly manner. See (4)(b) below.
✔ LIMITED access granted to the project administrator (normally DONE at project enrollment). See (4)(c) below.
✔ Opt In to DNA matching (normally DONE when you send your swab back by mail). See (4)(d) below.
✔ Set up Earliest Known paternal ancestor, including the mapping of GPS origin coordinates to the best known location. See (4)(e) below.
✔ Opt In to share out your Y and ancestral results with the project. See (4)(f) below.
✔ Share Origins data with matches. See (4)(g) below.
✔ Provide at minimum a project surname paternal line in your family tree, with names, dates, spouses, and places. Share family tree with matches. See (4)(h) below.
✔ Provide the project administrator the necessary written permission in the JOIN text when you click JOIN. See (1) above.
(3) Privacy ConcernsAll FTDNA project administrators sign agreements to not disclose your personal information. This project is NOT an exception. We do NOT publish your name or your contact information.
The project's Y results are accessible under Y DNA Results of the left sidebar. Your data is tagged with a FTDNA kit number, anonymizing your results. This is what the world sees when they visit our FTDNA website, and this is the state of Y results typical of *most* FTDNA projects so this project is NOT an exception.
What IS different is that that you are EXPECTED to share your anonymized results so they can be reviewed by other interested parties.
For examples of what we are publishing, see:
- FTDNA Corca Laidhe Results
- Corca Laidhe haplotrees on our external websiteFor examples of DNA map graphics similar to what we may one day publish, see:
- Cork Ireland project mitochondrial DNA study
- Irish DNA Atlas Study published in Nature(4) FTDNA Account and Family History PreparationThe following instructional information utilizes data on a third party website (not FTDNA's) in order to better illustrate FTDNA's account features. Any links taking you to that website will have a light gray colored background like this box.
• (a) Y testing requirement details
Y testing needs to be done at FTDNA so your results are integrated into the database and are fully enabled for matches.
A minimum of 111 markers is required. Transfers of SNPs from elsewhere and straight transfers of STR markers without upgrades at FTDNA are not sufficient.
See part III of the DNA testing FAQ for basic help in navigating and interpreting Y STR results.
Advanced SNP TestingThe project is relying increasingly on Big Y, the SNP discovery test. The project wants men interested in and committed to more extensive Y testing and are willing to take Big Y, the SNP discovery test, given the optimal financial circumstances. Yes, we know it is expensive. Hopefully, there will be future sales, and competitive pressures to push the price down. We suggest saving up for it over time, and ask friends and relatives who want to give you a gift to contribute to your testing "kitty". Without any prior Y STR testing, $10 a week set aside over 52 weeks will be more than enough to cover Big Y and still have spare money. If you have already have tested some Y STR markers, you'll need even less. Hold on to that testing kitty for the next good sale opportunity. Big Y testing will also complete your STR marker testing and extend your STRs beyond 111.
See part IV of the DNA testing FAQ for a further discussion of Y SNP tests at FTDNA and why Big Y is preferred.
• (b) Set up Contact Information
Contact Information should be set up in a project-friendly manner.
See external help: Set up contact information.
• (c) Granting Access to the Administrators
If you enrolled after May 2018, you grant LIMITED access to the project administrator(s) as a condition of enrollment so you do not need to take further steps. Please do NOT alter this setting.
If there is still a problem:
See external help: Grant access to administrators.
• (d) Opt in to matching
Normally when you send back your swab you sign a form allowing FTDNA to process your results and release them for matching. So you probably do not need to take further steps.
If there is still a problem:
See external help: Opt in to matching.
• (e) Set up paternal ancestor
This includes mapping GPS coordinates. See external help: Set Paternal Ancestor data.
• (f) Share Y results and paternal ancestral data with projects
See external help: Share Your Y Results.
• (g) Share your origins data with matches
See external help: Share origins data with matches.
• (h) Create, upload, share a family tree
See external help: Create, upload, share family tree.
(5) Additional Project Information• Email the administrators
Susan's and Martha's emails are available off our FTDNA website, in the left column.
If you expect us to see your email:
Copy and paste the keywords CORCA LAIDHE PROJECT into the SUBJECT LINE of your email.
If you are a project member add your FTDNA Kit Number to the SUBJECT LINE.
Emails without the keywords in the subject line will probably end up in a spam folder and get deleted.
In 2023 and 2024 we have had problems with our Activity Feed. Please join the external group chat if you have a pressing question.
• Communication from and within the Project
Our communication has been spotty in recent years. In 2023 and 2024 we have had recurring problems with our Activity Feed. Please join the external Corca Laidhe chat if you have a pressing question. The external chat is also for people not in the project.
We will utilize any means of communication available - bulk email, Activity Feed, external chat, published newsletters - when there is news to report.
This study accumulates data slowly over time. The project administrators do not actively recruit for the study. Expect work and progress to BE SLOW. Expect long periods with NO communication.
• Y testing financial assistance
The project does NOT give away free Y-DNA tests at genealogy and DNA shows. Participants are not prepared to participate at that point in time. They are too new to Y-DNA.
IF funds are available, then during major sales, the project MAY fund up to $150 towards qualified members for their Big Y test, subject to available $$$. Eligible participants should be available to properly reswab as needed.
In addition to the project requirements listed above, there are other qualifications that must be met. Chief among them are:
- participation in the project with your 111 marker results for a minimum of one year.
- demonstrated commitment to meeting the project goals by maintaining the required account setup from the time you join.
- compelling genealogy evidence of Munster ancestry back to the tithe books or earlier (the geographic boundaries might expand over time).
- surnames under Hereditary Proprietors of the Corca Laidhe have top priority.
- evidence of native - rather than plantation - ancestry.The project will provide further details to participants as needed.
Prospective members who have any questions ABOUT THE PROJECT after reading the materials here should email Susan at corcalaidhedna @ earthlink.net. If you expect us to see your email and want a reply, copy and paste the exact phrase CORCA LAIDHE PROJECT into the subject line of your email. Otherwise it will be deleted as spam. Emails must be BRIEF. Do NOT send attachments. Other than for project members, we do NOT advise on your own DNA results by private email. Search FTDNA for relevant surname and haplogroup projects or check our LINKS.