ELDER Y-Chromosome DNA Project

Project Background

Project Administrator:
Nancy Elder Petersen, Vancouver, Washington State, USA

E-mail: NancyElderPETERSEN@yahoo.com
or NancyP@Teleport.com

In Memoriam
Donna Younkin Logan, d. January 4, 2006.
She was an enthusiastic genealogy researcher and
publisher for ELDER families, and will be greatly missed by all of us.
We have set up an ELDER DNA Scholarship Fund as a memorial.
Also Ann Elder Brooks Poe, d. February 5, 2004
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/AnnElderBrooksPoe.htm

And Mary Louise Donnelly, Catholic ELDER genealogist, d. Sept. 16 2008
obituary:
http://www.ennisdailynews.com/news.php?a=t&id=3176

We welcome any male worldwide with the surname ELDER to participate in our
Y-Chromosome DNA project, ordering the "mouth swab" kit
on the JOIN REQUEST menu for ELDER discount with FamilyTreeDNA.
If you are a female researcher with a close male relative still
carrying the surname ELDER
we encourage you to request their participation.
The goal of the ELDER Surname Project is to
distinguish between ELDER ancestral lines, worldwide, and connect lines that have reached brick walls
on their paper trail, especially to connect to their Scotland origins.

Over the past 20+ years ELDER researchers
have collected and organized a vast amount
of genealogical records for families with surname ELDER.
Many of these records can still be found at the FamilyTrail.com web site:
http://www.FamilyTrail.com/elder

See also ELDER Family Research BB (free registration):
http://www.FamilyTrail.com/elder/bb

ELDER genforum:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/elder

ELDER at Rootsweb/Ancestry Board:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.elder
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Nancy Elder Petersen's Rev. War Soldier,
Robert ELDER (1730-1807) of FRANKLIN CO PA
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/RobToJos1807Will.htm

Scotland DNA project:
http://www.ourfamilyorigins.com/scotland/dna.htm
ELDER entries:
R1b chart- COLLA UAIS-Scotland Founder--Green box

#15696 - Andrew, b. 1795 NC ----8W2NK
#16176 - John, residing Iredell NC 1800--G5CPF
begins 13 24 14 10 10
(matches Franklin Co PA - 11/12, but not 3rd marker)
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#74613 - Bedford Co PA
begins 13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 (then mismatches)
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#30720 - Robert, b. 1785 Selkirk Borders ---GGTHC
begins: 13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 (then mismatches)
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#37194 - Joseph Elder, VA ---5VXEU
begins: "13 24 14 11 11"
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#12786 - Peter Elder, VA - --DSEME
#12593 - Peter Elder, VA - --QB3QZ
#42193 - Peter Elder, VA ---6XK6G
begins "13 24 14 11 11 14"
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#20923 - KY--VESHU
#23005 - Maine/Mississippi--44T97
begins: 13 24 14 11 11
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ELDER of Franklin Co PA -
(begins 13 24 15 10 10)
#12898 ------(Clarion Co PA)--ENUZ2
#29820-------(Mercer Co PA----NNG6K)
#38776 ------(Northern Scotland) (Sutherland)
#6095 -------(Canada)---------RF5ZB
#44209------ (Beaver Co PA)----XHYEC
#18545 ------(Franklin Co PA)--4BEG6
#65388 ------(Co Donegal Ire)--ZTNS9 (Davis)
#10042 ------(Franklin Co PA)--4GJ7K
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#12969 -- Andrew, b. 1795 NC ---D8M7X (NIALL - R1b1c7)
begins: 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 13 13 14 29
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#16874 -- Somerset Co PA--PD6EQ (no Elder matches)
begins: 13 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 13 30 ( mismatch - 5 of 12)
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I-Isles (VIKING) chart (Click Lavender Box) - matching PAXTANG PA
begins "15 24 15 10 15"
#15134--22ZFR - Ballymoney, Co Antrim
#15534--BD9XM - Paxtang, PA
#17814--K8N87 - Elder's Ridge, PA - Paxtang PA
#50076--CA9R5 - Spartanburg, SC--Stewart #5830 and others match 66/67
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Not in the R1b chart (but had been added to Jason’s chart)
"Catholic ELDER"--William d1714 MD--#44816--H84A9
--Thomas ELDER, b. 1876
Limavady,County Londonderry,N.Ire.--#76740-CEN7M

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I-ISLES "join" as of 1/20-07 (but not yet added)
--B. ELDER of “Inch Island, Co Donegal, Ireland”- #75444 (matches 4 PAXTANG PA entries)--267BX

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ULSTER DNA chart:
http://www.ulsterheritage.com
Choose the 6th menu item on left: "UH DNA PROJECT"
then subhead: DNA TEST RESULTS

1st ELDER Section:
Barry titled: "ELDER CLAN"
Nancy titled: "Franklin Co PA"
#10042, 10277, 20638, 18545, 29820, 10261, 12898, 78241, 85035, 88041, 114538,132709

2nd ELDER Section:
Barry titled: "ELDER FAMILY"
Nancy titled: "MAINE" --(MISSISSIPPI/NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE, ENG/ KY)
#23005, #87786, #20923

3rd Elder Section:
Barry titled: "ELDER FAMILY II"
Nancy titled: "Glasgow #76740 (Londonderry),
and #37194(Joseph b 1749VA)

4th Elder Section:
Barry titled: "ANTRIM ELDER" - "I"=Isles
Nancy titled: "PAXTANG" ELDER (added #75444-Inch Island)

also:
1 Elder-Irish NIALL "R1b1c7: #12969
1 Rock Clan ELDER #74613

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Nancy's Scotland research:
Aberdeen, Argyll, Banff, Fife, Kinross, Midlothian, Perth, Inverness, Skye:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/Perth.htm

John ELDER, Steamship engineer of Glasgow
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/Steamships.htm

SUTHERLAND surname and locations with
ELDER in Northern Scotland
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/Sutherland.htm

Distribution map for ELDER in 1881 and 1998 Scotland/England:
http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/

John Hansen's (now Bruce Durie's) "Scottish Clans" chart-- 21
Ancestors for Franklin Co PA:
1. George of Bedford Co PA -- #12747
2. James of NC -- #10261
3. John of Mercer Co PA -- #29820
4. Robert of Franklin Co PA -- #18545 (Joseph Jr.)
5. Robert of Franklin Co PA -- #10042 (John of Wood Co Ohio)
6. John, b. abt 1814 NC -- #114538
7. James Gray ELDER, b 1868 Ballymoney - d. 1945 WI -- #132709
8. John Elder, res. Iredell Co NC 1800 -- #16176 (another location)
9. James Elder, b. 1769 Clarion Co PA -- #12898
10. George Elder, d. 1800 Bedford Co PA -- #14778
11. Jacob Elder, b. 1865 KY -- #171586 (another location)
"Other Surname" for Andrew of NC -- #12969
"Other Surname" for Rutherford TN -- #26383
Aberdeen - Pittenweem (Fife) -- #155942
Borders -Selkirkshire - McLelland -- #30720
Maine group - Anderson Elder, d. Madison Co KY -- #20923
"Peter Elder of VA" -- #35714
Paxtang group: Spartanburg SC -- #50076
Paxtang group: John b. 1827 Clark Co OH -- #15534
Paxtang group: Robert (1836-1910) Inch Island, Co Donegal -- #75444
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/scottishdna

Charles Kerchner's "R1b" chart:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/r1b
See:
"Catholic ELDER" #44816 matching CLARY
(both found in Frederick Co MD)
then further down the chart,
3 ELDER entries of FRANKLIN CO PA
#12898, #18545, #10042
and
12969--Andrew Elder, b. 1795 NC - #12969
30720--Robert Elder, b. 1785 Selkirk, Scotland
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Ireland Heritage chart with CLARY:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/IrelandHeritage
H84A9-
"Catholic ELDER" --William d 1714 MD --#44816
Now has 67 markers, with 60/67 matching CLARY
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Ireland Heritage - R1b1c7
http://homepage.eircom.net/~ihdp/ihdp/focus-r1b1c7.htm

South's "I1c" Chart (See Isles -I1b2a1)
All 5 PAXTANG PA
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/I1c-y-clan
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McKee's "R1b1c7" or "Niall" chart:
D. ELDER (#12969)
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/R1b1c7

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R1b Y-search 67 marker chart (66/67) (BORDERS and MCLELLAND)
http://www.ysearch.org/search_results.asp?uid=ggthc&min_markers=67&mismatch_type=absolute&mismatches_max=2&mismatches_sliding_starting_marker=8&lastname_limiter=none&haplo=®ion=

I1c Y-search 67 marker chart (66/67) (ELDER and STEWART)
Stuart (27JHT), Stewart (7NV2N), Stewart (XTCGF), Stewart (KZH3S), Stewart (64/67)(P4WPK)
http://www.ysearch.org/search_results.asp?uid=CA9R5&min_markers=66&mismatch_type=absolute&mismatches_max=4&mismatches_sliding_starting_marker=8&lastname_limiter=none&haplo=®ion=

Pulaski County KY chart:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/PulaskiCountyKentucky
#13301-JESSE ELDER of NC (through PETER ELDER line)

Cumberland Gap Project
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/CumberlandGap-YDNA
#44816 William ELDER, d. 1714 MD

McEwen's "R1b" Haplogroup Divisions:
http://www.geocities.com/mcewanjc/s21.htm

Y-DNA Search has 50 entries for ELDER
http://www.ysearch.org

See Scots Clusters - Sterling - Perthshire and MacGregor
"13 24 14 10 10"
http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Scots%20Cluster.htm

Stirling DNA project - with MacGregor:
"13 24 14 10 10" and "13 24 15 10 9"
http://stirlingdna.clanstirling.net

Scotch-Irish in Massachusetts:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/MassWorcester1790.htm

Georgia Kinney Bopp's HOT TOPICS webpage:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gkbopp/DNA/HotTopics.htm

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Pennsylvania ARCHIVES - Nancy's Footnote "STORY PAGE"
"ELDER FAMILIES IN FRANKLIN CO PA"
http://www.footnote.com/pages_all_recent/NancyElderPetersen

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29820
1. JOHN ELDER d. 1885, Wilmington, Lawrence Co PA (also in Mercer Co,
PA)
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/pa/WashingtonCoPA.htm


44209
William Alexander ELDER, b. 1836 OH
f:"DAVID CLARK ELDER" , b. 1798,
Path Valley, Franklin Co PA.
f: JOHN ELDER, b. 1755, Cumberland Co PA
Moved to Beaver Co PA in 1802.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/OrvilleElder.htm

FOX
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/FoxDNA

SUTHERLAND
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Sutherland

McCLELLAN
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/McClellanProject

BALLYMONEY, Co ANTRIM - 109 ELDER entries:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/BallymoneyData.htm

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NOVA SCOTIA - Google BOOKS
"The History of Kings County, Nova Scotia, Heart of the Acadian Land,"...
By Arthur Wentworth Hamilton Eaton
Published 1910 The Salem Press Company
(and 1999 Heritage Books)
at
http://tinyurl.com/yurpwz

Page 655 (and others) Family Sketches
"The ELDER family, a family unusually gifted,
was founded in Hants County by Matthew Elder,
who came as a young man from County Donegal, Ireland, to Windsor..."

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ROCK surname - Co Armagh Ireland
http://homepage.eircom.net/~rocksurname/rock_dna/index.htm

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder