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Stephen McCracken Stephen McCracken
November 11 @ 6:53am
Exiles of ’98 – Ulster Presbyterians and the United States (eBook) Ok last week I was privileged to ask to attend a conference and book launch. Its a "free" book paid for by the Ulster Historical Society and is highly recommended. Get yours here at this link https://www.booksireland.org.uk/store/ebooks/exiles-ebook?fbclid=IwAR3pPnLhjZbF-w4WQrhNu75DDCqpxO_DN-NXDgUqbk8ogzES9MNWUoBvVoc This eBook tells the fascinating story of Ulster Presbyterians who departed for America around the time of the 1798 Rebellion. Whether high in the councils of the United Irishmen, an ordinary oath-swearing member of the ranks, or an unaffiliated critic of existing political and social circumstances, an ultimately untold number of Ulster’s Presbyterians became associated with revolutionary currents in the final years of the eighteenth century. Many so involved – or so accused – took exile in the new United States. And whether personally known to Thomas Jefferson or a distant admirer, whether well-known preachers or scholars, lawyers or farmers or artisans, the Presbyterian exiles of the 1790s and early 1800s transformed their new homes, shaping and reshaping the politics and religion of America.
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Stephen McCracken
November 12 @ 4:18pm
Haha I was waiting for someone to notice
Garth Graham
November 12 @ 7:36pm
Unfortunately for me it probably won't help me figure out where my Graham line came over from Ireland as my most distant known Graham was James Graham born 1787 in Pennsylvania. So he was already here before the era that book is speaking of. But all of my family was Presbyterian so it interested me just in case I see something that rings a bell.
Peter Gilmore
December 6 @ 4:50pm
I'm glad it's highly recommended.
James Thompson
December 12 @ 10:05pm
Just ordered the ebook.
Dale Hughes Dale Hughes
November 26 @ 10:10am
I have a dual Hughes connection in Ireland. Joseph and Elisha (Bournes of Castleconner) Hughes from Mayo and Sligo emigrated to Canada in 1819, settling in the London, Middlesex, Ontario area. This is my GG Grandmothers line. My GG Grandfathers line was thru Richard and Anne (McQuaid) Hughes. A researcher shows them married in 1815 in Donegal and a son Thomas born circa 1818. He kept no record of the source of the info and cannot remember where he found it. I have been trying to prove for several years. Can anyone help with info? Richard and family emigrated to Quebec, Canada in 1819 with the Talbot party, but did not continue on with them from Quebec. They traveled down the river to Trois Riveres and settled near there until circa 1832, when they moved on to the London, Middlesex, Ontario area
mary Kemp
November 28 @ 1:33pm
Hi Dale, Have you BigY tested. One of our closest BigY matches is a Hughes from County Armagh. I don't see you in our list of matches. Our family name is Campbell, but we have a large variety of surname matches. Our Campbell family was in Armagh around 1820, but we do not know where they were prior to that.
Dale Hughes
December 1 @ 12:41pm
Family history says they came from Antrim or Armagh, but I believe that is because those are the greatest county sources for the Hughes surname. My GGG Grandfathers death cert also says he was born in Donegal. While I realize those are often wrong, with the info from Brian, it is a strong indicator. I'm not sold that the upgrade is the best idea yet.
William Wright William Wright
November 22, 2017 @ 7:54pm
Can anyone explain this following statement: "It's a bonny bonny nicht tonicht for a wee dram of....right Mr. McCracken? Am ducking dew 'O kirk in de loch Donnie ye kin so." My late father often reciting it but never explained it to me. Does it, or does not, have anything to do with Henry Joy McCracken, the Country Antrim and Belfast leader of the 1798 United Irishmen Rebellion?
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Stephen McCracken
October 1 @ 4:13pm
Susan I live in Antrim town and still never heard it before, I'm an archivist for the MCC family
Harold Turner
October 15 @ 10:43am
It is a good good night tonight for a little shot of (Whiskey) Right Mr. McCracken? I am ducking dew O'kirk in the lake. Donnie you can too.
Harold Turner
October 15 @ 10:47am
Bernard Kelly I have Turner's in Kentucky and I am kin to Kelly's there through Turner's and Ward's somehow.
Milton Lynn
November 6 @ 10:31pm
William Wright, I'm sorry I didn't see this before. (Actually, this is Milton's sister Loretta. I'm sad to report that Milton passed away two months ago, and I am now managing his account.) In any case, there is something to say about the bit you recited a year ago ... "It's a bonny bonny nicht tonicht for a wee dram of....right Mr. McCracken? Am ducking dew 'O kirk in de loch Donnie ye kin so."The words bonnie, nicht, wee dram, kirk, and loch all are Scottish words rather than Irish. (For example, a loch in Scotland is called a lough in Ireland, and kirk is the Scots word for church.) The word "donnie" probably is a corruption of "do not" "kin" should be "ken" - thus, "Do not you know so?" Do the elipses (....) signify a word not understood? I suspect it's Drambuie, a Scottish whiskey liqueur. Not sure what "dew 'o kirk" means.
Timothy McCoy Timothy McCoy has a question!
April 13 @ 10:57pm
How popular is DNA genealogy research in northern Ireland and Scotland? It would be an enormous help to us Americans if more native Scots and Irish would test their DNA.
Richard Dean
April 14 @ 10:28am
There was a DNA study in Ireland from 2011-2017 called the Irish DNA Atlas Project. I did a Google search and found this link https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17124-4 Additionally a DNA company "LivingDNA" in the UK is in the process of doing a similar Irish project. They may also use data from the "Irish DNA Atlas Project"? LivingDNA currently doesn't provide a DNA matching service but are accepting free transfers of Autosomal DNA results from testers from other companies such as FTDNA. They hope to provide DNA matching 3Q 2018 and also plan a one world DNA family tree.
Timothy McCoy
April 28 @ 8:54am
Thanks for the information!
John McCracken
September 3 @ 2:37pm
A good place to start would be the North of Ireland project, listed as a Dual (Y-DNA and MT-DNA) Geographical project. Understand that they order multiple test kits, so they can collect specimens and new members at the same time. Expect donations to help cover their costs would be appreciated.
Robert McSparin
October 23 @ 5:40am
I was able to find a few very distant cousins from Northern Ireland through Ydna testing. (I found him on an internet search of the surname, emailed for almost a year) I paid for the first man. (I have since traveled to Belfast twice and stayed in this family's home) The other did his own. Now, I am waiting on Ydna results from a man I found in Ayr, Scotland with our surname. It's been a fun adventure to say the least. :)
Garth Graham Garth Graham
October 15 @ 8:55am
FTDNA - Public Y-DNA and mtDNA Haplotrees The new Public Y-DNA Haplotree and Public mtDNA Haplotree are now available on the FamilyTreeDNA website. How to Access the Public Haplotrees • Users who are not signed in to the FTDNA site can access the haplotrees from the Y-DNA Haplotree and mtDNA Haplotree links located in the FTDNA footer under the Community section. • Users who are signed in to the FTDNA site can access the haplotrees from the new Public Haplotrees button located in the Partner Applications and Other Tools section of their dashboard. Learning Center Topics The following two public haplotree topics are now available in the Learning Center: • Public Y-DNA Haplotree: https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/community/public-y-dna-haplotree/ • Public mtDNA Haplotree: https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/community/public-mtdna-haplotree/
James GM T426718 Miller Kit 356313 James GM T426718 Miller Kit 356313
February 14, 2018 @ 9:44pm
Getting closer, my 3c1r is now up from a 37 marker match to a 67 marker at GD 0. May have him for a Big Y match soon, he took Big Y / Y111 during the sale. Do not know his batch number. My kit is 356313. I have taken Big Y / Y 111 haplo R-S5512.
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James GM T426718 Miller Kit 356313
April 28 @ 9:00am
I got to talk with this tester on the phone. He says they have changed his completion date several times and it is now set for May 5 - 12.
Daniel Ivey
May 7 @ 8:40am
Do you know his kit number? I’d be interested to see.
James GM T426718 Miller Kit 356313
May 8 @ 1:07am
My kit number is 356313. I can not infringe on his privacy and give out his kit number, sorry.
John McCracken
September 3 @ 2:15pm
James, hope the test results were as you hoped.
Myrton Stewart Myrton Stewart
January 13, 2018 @ 3:21pm
Hi,I have received the BIG Y results for my fathers testing and uploaded to the BIG Y Data Warehouse. Thank You, John Drake Stewart My father's info: Myrton Thomas Stewart FTDNA Kit # 14385, Ysearch 8FPQ7 Terminal SNP R-A4697 Terminal SNP updated to BY38375 Presumed Positive for BY21235 and BY21236 John Drake Stewart FTDNA Kit# N118485, NG Geno 2.0 Kit # NG44GH3V4W Terminal SNP (Yseq tested 2 years ago R-BY3343)
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Kevin McEldowney
April 18 @ 7:18am
Ed, Well when I tried to follow the instructions I didn't see the one specific part... the part...#5. which states to "Right click the download VCF button. Then "copy that link" and Paste the link into the "Download URL" box of the submission form. Once I did that it worked. I'm just guessing that this is a possibility or you could say I'm grasping at straws. Good luck and hope you get it to work.
John McCracken
May 2 @ 6:20am
FtDNA kit # 50748 Ysearch Q5UYJ -- presently R-Z253. Update to 17 Feb post: ordered Big Y500 (batch 853, at the moment due by July 16th ;-)
Edward Robinson
May 17 @ 8:41am
Kevin did what you stated on April 18 and it took this time. Thank you for the help on this. My test kit number is N16990; there are five others who match my DNA. Per Family Tree: myfamilytree my DNA is 100% European mainly out of the British Isles and 0% non-European DNA. My family arrived in the colonies during the mid 1650's. Family names Robinson, Whitaker, Butler and Burton brought to the Virginia Colony then spread out across this Republic. Family mainly spread out of the Virginia Colony, 3rd great grandfather given land grant in Missouri Territory for fighting in the War of 1812. They moved to Kansas, Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma and now days Idaho and Montana. Even have a niece that was born in BC in Victoria, British Columbia in 1989 since her mother was Canadian.
John McCracken
July 11 @ 5:50am
50748 Vance, Kevin: Sent my Big Y results to Data Warehouse last week. Thanks for your interest and advice (updates posts of 17 Feb and 2 May, above).
Richard Wright Richard Wright
May 15 @ 8:23am
My GEDMatch is T667027 I suspect my Wright, Ocheltree (Stewart?), ancestors left Ireland around 1760
Kevin Ireland
May 15 @ 9:37am
I checked against my father's kit A909282, a Wright grandson; no match (doesn't mean we're not related, just that the link may be too distant). We're not sure of the origins of our Wright line. We know that our Ireland-surname, McCool and Walker ancestors all came from Ulster (and presumably Scotland earlier).
Garth Graham
May 15 @ 3:06pm
I gotta tell you Richard, you and I sure do share a ton of surnames. Here's the list of our in common surnames: You and Richard's Shared Surnames Adams Baker Craig Evans Harmon Lewis Miller Mitchell Parker Wallace Wilson Wright Are you from the Pennsylvania area by chance? All of my family is.
Kevin McEldowney Kevin McEldowney
April 21 @ 2:11pm
For those who purchased the BigY test you might see something new coming. I just got my BigY500 results yesterday... never notified that it even being done or was coming. What is different is the bottons now have a Y-STR results under the new label Big Y500 section (used to be Big Y) and the Y-DNA that I did was Y111 and the results under the Y-DNA 111 test section show now 561 STR's instead of just 111. The new Big Y500 section has the new Y-STR results button which also displays the 561 STR's. Time will tell how this will help with correlations of others in our groups.
Robert Ireland Robert Ireland
March 27 @ 4:31pm
There are 127 members in the ‘Ireland’ Surname Project ( NOT the country, this a surname project https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/ireland/activity-feed) representing 4 major haplogroups. They have been grouped by STR similarities, into about 20 sub-groups, many with only a couple of members. The vast majority of members, not surprisingly are R-M269. One of the largest sub-groups is designated the R1b (R-M269) Group 1: (R-P312 > L21 > DF13 > ZZ10 > Z255 (Irish Sea)>Z16434) John and William Ireland (Purviance line. This is the group I have been placed in, with 12 other ‘Irelands’, most of whom don’t share a known paper trail. My Big Y test (kit 534572) was the first in this ‘Ireland’ group, and put me in haplogroup R-Z16434, along with about 20 other FTDNA men, of other projects, many of whom are in downstream subclades. Our placements on the Big Tree of Alex Williamson can be seen at http://www.ytree.net/DisplayTree.php?blockID=118 , though his tree has not been updated yet to reflect the most recent developments below. A recent, (July 2016), Y67 match to me in the ‘Ireland’ Surname Project (kit B146648), whose ancestors were from County Antrim, beyond a brick wall for me, was encouraged to upgrade his results to Y111, and Big Y. When his results came in, we matched 106/111 and he and I shared the same terminal SNP of Z16434. We also had 5 shared novel variants. Yesterday, the results of FTDNA’s analysis of these variants came in, and both of us have been given a new terminal SNP of BY17850. So we have established a new branch on the haplotree, which is currently exclusive to the 2 of us. Well, this is what most of us are searching and waiting for, and for me, it is very exciting...citizen science. I have read messages from men in this and other projects who have had this experience of building the tree out. The wait is worth it. And the other good news is that these Big Y results keep on giving. I am now inspired to ‘shake the tree ‘ at sale time, and see if I can’t persuade some more of the ‘Irelands’ in my group to take this discovery test. Perhaps we can get some higher resolution of the branch points and their placement in time and geography, to see where and when this surname arose for us.