R-M173>P25>M343>V88/PF6289>FGC21056>FGC21009>FGC21039>FGC21003>FGC21005>FGC20980 This is a Y-DNA only project. Do not join if you have not done Y-DNA or have not received a Y-DNA SNP assignment from Family Tree DNA based on your autosomal DNA. Also do not join if you have only done Mitochondrial DNA, are female (as you do not have Y-DNA) or are joining merely because some line other than the direct male line you have Jewish German ancestry. This project will be of no value to you. Our members will be sorted into haplogroups with their closest Y-DNA matches. We can also help you figure out what other projects may be of value to you and suggest additional testing if appropriate. IF YOUR TERMINAL SNP IS R-M269 DO NOT JOIN THIS GROUP!! In that case our group broke from your group about 45,000 years ago! DO NOT JOIN IF YOUR PRIVACY SETTINGS ARE "GROUP ONLY"!! or if you have given administrators only minimum access to your DNA. We are unable to even view your results. Limited or Full access is fine. The FGC20980 SNP occurred around the 832 BCE. The Jewish portion of our group all share a mutation called FGC21047 which occurred around 990 CE. For this portion of our group we hope to find men with deep lineages who can help us connect our DNA/phylogenic tree to their paper trail. Going back anywhere from 500-700 years we connect to another group that is definitely Sephardic, and earlier we connect to our African and Arab cousins. This project is open to all men who have done a Y-DNA test and have either tested or are presumed positive for the R1b-FGC20980 SNP. This may appear as your terminal SNP or you may see it as the terminal SNP for some of your matches. PLEASE CHECK YOUR MATCH LIST BEFORE REQUESTING TO JOIN AND MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST ONE OF YOUR MATCHES IS showing a terminal SNP assignment of either FGC20970, FGC20973, FGC20980, FGC21060, FGC21047, Y146684, BY167551, FTC98526, etc. ALSO, Family Tree DNA is not assigning haplogroups based on autosomal results. If you have been given a SNP assignment based on Family Finder, but haven't done a YDNA test, you must test at least 37 markers in order to be sorted into a group. I will ALSO welcome anyone who has the V88 SNP (or has V88 matches) on a temporary basis. Because this project is presently the only one that is downstream of V88, I am willing to help other groups get on their feet so they can start their own project. I am especially interested in adding more of our Arab cousins who share FGC20973/FGC21005. Our connection to them is very distant, but it's important to work together in order to learn more about the origin of our branch. If you have not done any SNP testing, your terminal SNP may be; M173 P25, M343 or PF6289. All of these are SNPs that occurred ≥ 7000 years ago and you have hundreds of SNPs that occurred AFTER them. So if you have one of these SNP assigment and DO NOT see any one with a terminal SNP of V88 on your match list, or are a member of an R1b haplogroup project and haven't been clustered with V88, DO NOT JOIN THIS PROJECT! So if you're in doubt, please contact a project administrator before joining. NONE OF OUR MEMBERS ARE POSITIVE FOR M269, SO DO NOT JOIN IF THIS IS YOUR SNP!! Also, DO NOT JOIN unless you are willing to change your group privacy settings to either Limited Access or Full Access. An administrator is unable to sort you, view your match list or even send you an email. So you will be deleted. We are a subset of the R1b Basal Project. By joining this project you are giving us permission to add you to this Project. If you do not wish to be a member, please either let us know at the time you join, or you can easily remove your self from the project.