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Florian Malessa Florian Malessa
June 20, 2017 @ 12:21pm
Dear Visitors and Project Members, we want to welcome you at the East Prussia Project. Feel free to ask questions in English as well as in German. On the following 1. post we have some information for you about the geography of East Prussia and some links for your genealogical research. The territory of East Prussia existed until 1945. Today the territory of former East Prussia is part of the States (from North to South) Lithuania, Russia and Poland. East Prussia was only a small part of Prussia. See the map above. The blue colored territory was Prussia, the red colored part was East Prussia. If your ancestors came from the blue colored part please join the Prussia/Preußen Project https://www.familytreedna.com/my/group-join.aspx?group=PrussiaPreussen . To help you usefully we need some information: What is the name of your ancestor, when did he leave East Prussia, from which place, or at least region did he come from. Without these informations we are unable to give you satisfactory answers. If your ancestors immigrated to the United States you can find out such information for example at the Passenger Lists you find at www.ancestry.com Many genealogical documents were destroyed in World War I and II. The existing documents are today at many different places. An overview what you can find where is available (only in German) at genealogy.net: http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Ostpreu%C3%9Fen/Genealogische_Quellen You can find online records on this websits: Archion (Protestant church records) chargeable: (https://www.archion.de/en/ / https://www.archion.de/) Polish State Archives : (http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/) Archiwum Panstwowe w Olsztynie: (http://olsztyn.ap.gov.pl/baza/szukaj.php) Familysearch Catalog chargeable: (https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=41939&query=%2Bplace%3A%22Germany%2C%20Preu%C3%9Fen%2C%20Ostpreu%C3%9Fen%22) List of online records from Familysearch with links to the books: (https://www.ahnen-spuren.de/ostpreussen/news/digitalisate-online-bei-den-mormonen) Online Index for the registry office of East Prussia (1874 – 1945) enter User name:gast password: vffow: chose: Namensindex der Standesamtsregister des Archiv in Allenstein: zum Inhalt: (http://http://www.vffow-buchverkauf.de/onlinedb/datenbanken.php) Archivs in Germany: Evangelisches Zentralarchiv Berlin (http://www.ezab.de/english/index.html / http://www.ezab.de/) Deutsche Zentralstelle für Genealogie (http://www.staatsarchiv.sachsen.de/staatsarchiv-leipzig.htm ) Bischöfliches Zentralarchiv Regensburg (http://www.bistum-regensburg.de/bistum/einrichtungen-a-z/bischoefliches-zentralarchiv/ ) Geheimes Staatsarchiv Preußischer Kulturbesitz (https://www.gsta.spk-berlin.de/english_941.html / https://www.gsta.spk-berlin.de/) Archivs in Lithuania: Lietuvos valstybės istorijos archyvas (http://www.archyvai.lt/en/news.html) Archivs in Poland: Archiwum Panstwowe w Olsztynie (dt.: Staatsarchiv Allenstein)(http://www.olsztyn.ap.gov.pl/) Archiwum Państwowe w Gdańsku (dt.: Staatsarchiv Danzig) (https://www.gdansk.ap.gov.pl/?tc=2) Archiwum Państwowe w Elblągu z siedzibą w Malborku (dt.: Staatsarchiv Elbing, Marienburg) (http://www.elblag.ap.gov.pl/d/glowna_d.htm) Archiwum Państwowe w Koszalinie (dt.: Staatsarchiv Köslin) (http://www.koszalin.ap.gov.pl/?jezyk=pl&strona=start) Archiwum Państwowe w Suwalkach (dt.: Staatsarchiv Lyck) (http://www.suwalki.ap.gov.pl/) Archiwum Państwowe w Szczecinie (dt.: Staatsarchiv Stettin) (http://www.szczecin.ap.gov.pl/) Archiwum Diecezji Warminskiej w Olsztynie (dt.: Diözese Allenstein) (http://archwarmia.pl/node/19) Archiwum Archidiecezjalne w Gdańsku (dt.: Diözese Danzig) (http://www.diecezja.gda.pl/) Archiwum Diecezjalne w Elblągu (dt.: Diözese Elbing) (http://diecezja.elblag.pl/) Worldwide : Ancestry chargeable: (http://search.ancestry.de/search/db.aspx?dbid=61456&path=/) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostpreu%C3%9Fen#/media/File:Map-Prussia-EastPrussia.svg
Richard Rodriguez
June 18, 2018 @ 3:09pm
Hi, all. I do not have all the details about my German Ancestors and can only state what I know. On my mother's side, family is German. My grandmother used to say she was Pennsylvania Dutch. She is a Spies (Spiese) and her paternal grandfather was from Prussia as found in one of the US Census records (he was born in 1812). Later, US Census records says Germany/ Baden - Wurtemberg? My grandmother, who was my main source did not know too much before this. My Grandmother's maternal grandfather (Straehle) was born in the US in 1860 but his father was born in Germany. Insight into Geography would be helpful. My mother's Paternal grandfather, his family goes back to 1600's prior to the Revolution; Kochel or Kachel in earlier spellings. I know nothing about their history except from Ancestory website. I do know they are German and could be the Palatinate immigrants. Would appreciate any help I can get at this point. Thank you.
Florian Malessa
July 22, 2018 @ 12:43pm
Hello Richard at first the East Prussia Project is most likley the wrong project for your search, with this information it would be most likely impossible to find your ancestor because Spiess is a really common surename in Germany. But if your informations of the location are right and you have some time for research you can try to find him, there are a smaller part in todays "Baden-Württemberg" that were part of the Hohenzollern dynasty until 1850 and than get a part of Prussia, but don´t be to entusiastic you have check many church records and to my knowledge they aren´t online available at the moment. You can look were the region is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Hohenzollern. You can find church records at Archion for Sigmaringen for the time 1854 - 1879. Best Florian
Dolores Schaffer
April 4 @ 10:40pm
One of my ancestors was Gerhard Henry Koppert, born: March 19, 1819, Wesel , Kresis Wesel, Nordhein-Westfalen, Deutschland. Was this part of Prussia?
Florian Malessa
April 5 @ 10:58am
Yes but not East Prussia.
Florian Malessa Florian Malessa
Former Admin
May 6, 2016 @ 3:14am
Thanks to our administrator Florian Malessa, this map is now where it belongs! With a klick on the link you may find even very small places!
Susanne Hult Susanne Hult has a question!
April 14 @ 5:40am
I looking for my Grandmother´s maiden name. In her passport it says she was born in Beuthen, 21st of April 1921.
Susanne Hult
April 14 @ 5:41am
Sorry, her name was Ursula Johanna Horstmann. We have heard the name Panek, but are not sure.
Florian Malessa
April 14 @ 11:29am
There are 2 villages with the name Beuthen, they are both placed in Silesia not in East Prussia. You can look here: https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/search?q=beuthen%20XTYPEro:pra&rpp=15&order=&page=2
Susanne Hult
April 26 @ 10:56am
Thank you, Florian. This might be the problem, that I have sought on the wrong Beuthen. I give it a try.
Cosette Pathak Cosette Pathak
April 4 @ 8:19am
Seeking information about the Kahlo family who emigrated from Konerich and lived in Defiance Ohio. My Great Grandfather was Karl Kahlo, born 1818.
Florian Malessa
April 9 @ 12:40pm
I´m sorry but I wasn't able to find a village with the name Konerich, also no person with the name Kahlo was found in the registry office index for East Prussia.
Dan Kubic Dan Kubic
April 8 @ 8:06pm
My husband's relative, Dan Kubic, his family was said to come from Prussia. Another admin said it appeared to be from Poland but I don't remember if that indicated West or East Prussia (they immigrated to the US about 1890; family name on the ship manifest was Kubich). I would love to know if there are any other extended family members in the area. But I don't know exactly where to go or how to search this as we have no other names than Andreas and Wilhelmina (Yanke?) Kubich and no exact town/city. The Kubich name was changed by their children to Kubic and Cubic. Thank you.
Florian Malessa
April 9 @ 12:35pm
There are no people with this last name in the registry office index for East Prussia: http://allenstein.vffow.de/namenskarte.php But note that many indexes were destroyed during World war 1 and 2.
Catherine Dwyer Catherine Dwyer has a question!
March 29 @ 6:00am
Hello, my great great grandfather Jacob Arndt was born in Preussisch Holland, East Prussia in around 1823. He migrated to Australia in the 1850's. His parents were John (presumably Johann) and Elizabeth Arndt (her maiden name may have been Liedtke). Do you know how I could obtain his birth records? Thank you, Catherine
Florian Malessa
March 30 @ 12:11pm
Hello Catherine, the church records your looking for are in the "Evangelisches Zentralarchiv Berlin" and also the Mormons have copies of the birth records. http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Ostpreu%C3%9Fen/Genealogische_Quellen/Kirchbuchbest%C3%A4nde_Kreis_Preu%C3%9Fisch-Holland On arcion you will find church records for Preussisch Holland online. But the years you need aren´t uploaded at the moment so you must wait abit. Please note that you by a pass to see the books. https://www.archion.de/en/browse/ Best Florian
Chris Pollette Chris Pollette has a question!
November 13 @ 6:40pm
Hello everyone. I have my grandfather's 1883 birth certificate from Liebemühl (Kreis Osterode), but according to this information, my great-grandmother was unmarried at the time of his birth (which I'm told wasn't uncommon at the time). I found two birth records for my great-aunts, both of which list my great-grandmother as unmarried. I have been trying to find evidence of my great-grandfather, but I can't find any records of him in East Prussia. My great-grandfather came to the U.S. in 1892, after which I can find quite a lot. Does anyone have suggestions on records I might use to make a connection? His naturalization records say he was born in Marienfelde (also Kreis Osterode).
Chris Pollette
November 15 @ 12:39pm
Thank you, Martin! I hadn't tried GEDBAS yet, so I will see what I can find. I find I have been ignoring Archion on purpose, in the hope that when I get back everything I want will have been scanned and put online the next time! Silly, I know.
Martin L. Skubinna
December 14 @ 2:03pm
Another idea is contacting the Kreisgemeinschaft for Osterode at https://kreisgemeinschaft-osterode-ostpreussen.de/. I'm not sure how helpful they will be. Another East Prussian portal is one operated by Fritz Loseries at www.Ahnen-gesucht.de. It is a pay for use portal.
Chris Pollette
December 17 @ 7:17pm
Thanks, Martin!
Rebecca Walker Rebecca Walker
June 17, 2018 @ 11:13pm
If there is anyone here that has GEDmatch or genesis ged and would like to compare numbers here is mine GEDmatch A981397 and genesis WA4714113
November 5 @ 8:12pm
Comparing Kit A607107 (*Tmack24) and A981397 (Rebecca Walker) Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 500 SNPs Mismatch-bunching Limit = 250 SNPs Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs 12 53,403,443 56,860,086 3.1 720 13 46,072,586 50,506,358 3.8 1,090 Largest segment = 3.8 cM Total of segments > 3 cM = 6.8 cM 2 matching segments Pretty significant match on Chrom 13
November 5 @ 8:16pm
Comparing Kit A916025 (Michael (Alford)McCormick) and A981397 (Rebecca Walker) Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 500 SNPs Mismatch-bunching Limit = 250 SNPs Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs 13 46,072,586 50,510,657 3.8 617 Largest segment = 3.8 cM Total of segments > 3 cM = 3.8 cM 1 matching segments You match my father just not as good....But it is the same segment though...
November 5 @ 8:17pm
I have Smith Stuart and Ward surnames
Rebecca Walker
November 26 @ 1:09am
I do have Smith in mine as well, along with Stuart, I use wikitree and familysearch for my family trees.
Kevin Drake Kevin Drake
November 14 @ 2:55pm
I'm looking for information on Jakob Matheusik/Matheuscik/Matheuszik and Anna Konetzko/Konietzko born 1882 and 1886 respectively. He was born in Duttken, Kreis Oletzko (Treuburg), East Prussia now known as Dudki, and is located in north eastern Poland, and she was born in Rundflies, Kreis Lyck, East Prussia now known as Krzywe, Poland, any help on where to find their ancestors would be appreciated.
Adrian Kuschnereit Adrian Kuschnereit
November 12 @ 11:53pm
N-Y19113 update: From Yfull. New user YF15859 (anybody know who this is?) confirms younger N-Y19113 SNP estimations for subclade BY30414. I am also now back on my own at terminal SNP N-Y19113* (YF04086)
November 5 @ 3:24pm
Here is a Welch that I have showing up in Pensylvania....Thomas Welch (1700 - ) husband of 8th great-grandmother Mary Mendenhall (1692 - 1763) Wife of Thomas Welch Henry Hayes (1726 - 1786) Son of Mary Mendenhall Elizabeth Hayes (1752 - 1829) Daughter of Henry Hayes Martha (Molly) Jackson (1765 - 1840) Daughter of Elizabeth Hayes Zachariah Thomas Elkins (1803 - 1848) Son of Martha (Molly) Jackson
November 5 @ 3:23pm
Heinrich Friedrich Wittelsbach - Heinrich Friedrich von der Pfalz (1614 - 1629) 10th great-uncle Friedrich V / Friedrich I "Winterkönig" VON WITTELSBACH Kurfürst von der Pfalz, König von Böhmen (1596 - 1632) Father of Heinrich Friedrich Wittelsbach - Heinrich Friedrich von der Pfalz Ruprecht Van De Pfalz-Simmern (1619 - 1682) Son of Friedrich V / Friedrich I "Winterkönig" VON WITTELSBACH Kurfürst von der Pfalz, König von Böhmen Ruperta Savage Hughes (Hewes) Princess (1667 - 1726) Daughter of Ruprecht Van De Pfalz-Simmern Lieutenant General James Howe (1704 - 1794) Son of Ruperta Savage Hughes (Hewes) Princess