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Florian Malessa Florian Malessa
June 20, 2017 @ 12:21pm
Dear Visitors and Project Members, we want to welcome you at the East Prussia Project. Feel free to ask questions in English as well as in German. On the following 1. post we have some information for you about the geography of East Prussia and some links for your genealogical research. The territory of East Prussia existed until 1945. Today the territory of former East Prussia is part of the States (from North to South) Lithuania, Russia and Poland. East Prussia was only a small part of Prussia. See the map above. The blue colored territory was Prussia, the red colored part was East Prussia. If your ancestors came from the blue colored part please join the Prussia/Preußen Project https://www.familytreedna.com/my/group-join.aspx?group=PrussiaPreussen . To help you usefully we need some information: What is the name of your ancestor, when did he leave East Prussia, from which place, or at least region did he come from. Without these informations we are unable to give you satisfactory answers. If your ancestors immigrated to the United States you can find out such information for example at the Passenger Lists you find at www.ancestry.com Many genealogical documents were destroyed in World War I and II. The existing documents are today at many different places. An overview what you can find where is available (only in German) at genealogy.net: http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Ostpreu%C3%9Fen/Genealogische_Quellen You can find online records on this websits: Archion (Protestant church records) chargeable: (https://www.archion.de/en/ / https://www.archion.de/) Polish State Archives : (http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/) Archiwum Panstwowe w Olsztynie: (http://olsztyn.ap.gov.pl/baza/szukaj.php) Familysearch Catalog chargeable: (https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=41939&query=%2Bplace%3A%22Germany%2C%20Preu%C3%9Fen%2C%20Ostpreu%C3%9Fen%22) List of online records from Familysearch with links to the books: (https://www.ahnen-spuren.de/ostpreussen/news/digitalisate-online-bei-den-mormonen) Online Index for the registry office of East Prussia (1874 – 1945) enter User name:gast password: vffow: chose: Namensindex der Standesamtsregister des Archiv in Allenstein: zum Inhalt: (http://http://www.vffow-buchverkauf.de/onlinedb/datenbanken.php) Archivs in Germany: Evangelisches Zentralarchiv Berlin (http://www.ezab.de/english/index.html / http://www.ezab.de/) Deutsche Zentralstelle für Genealogie (http://www.staatsarchiv.sachsen.de/staatsarchiv-leipzig.htm ) Bischöfliches Zentralarchiv Regensburg (http://www.bistum-regensburg.de/bistum/einrichtungen-a-z/bischoefliches-zentralarchiv/ ) Geheimes Staatsarchiv Preußischer Kulturbesitz (https://www.gsta.spk-berlin.de/english_941.html / https://www.gsta.spk-berlin.de/) Archivs in Lithuania: Lietuvos valstybės istorijos archyvas (http://www.archyvai.lt/en/news.html) Archivs in Poland: Archiwum Panstwowe w Olsztynie (dt.: Staatsarchiv Allenstein)(http://www.olsztyn.ap.gov.pl/) Archiwum Państwowe w Gdańsku (dt.: Staatsarchiv Danzig) (https://www.gdansk.ap.gov.pl/?tc=2) Archiwum Państwowe w Elblągu z siedzibą w Malborku (dt.: Staatsarchiv Elbing, Marienburg) (http://www.elblag.ap.gov.pl/d/glowna_d.htm) Archiwum Państwowe w Koszalinie (dt.: Staatsarchiv Köslin) (http://www.koszalin.ap.gov.pl/?jezyk=pl&strona=start) Archiwum Państwowe w Suwalkach (dt.: Staatsarchiv Lyck) (http://www.suwalki.ap.gov.pl/) Archiwum Państwowe w Szczecinie (dt.: Staatsarchiv Stettin) (http://www.szczecin.ap.gov.pl/) Archiwum Diecezji Warminskiej w Olsztynie (dt.: Diözese Allenstein) (http://archwarmia.pl/node/19) Archiwum Archidiecezjalne w Gdańsku (dt.: Diözese Danzig) (http://www.diecezja.gda.pl/) Archiwum Diecezjalne w Elblągu (dt.: Diözese Elbing) (http://diecezja.elblag.pl/) Worldwide : Ancestry chargeable: (http://search.ancestry.de/search/db.aspx?dbid=61456&path=/) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostpreu%C3%9Fen#/media/File:Map-Prussia-EastPrussia.svg
Florian Malessa
June 22 @ 11:18am
Yes you have Dolores, it´s 50 km away from the border to the Netherlands, and 1000 km to the former border to East Prussia.
Florian Malessa
June 22 @ 11:23am
Steve todays Poland were splitt in the late 18th to early 20th centurie between Russia, Prussia and Austria, East Poland and Lithuinia belonged to Russia, its most likley your ancestors came from there otherweise the cenus must calles them as German Poland.
Steve Royce
July 10 @ 3:50pm
Florian, does that mean they probably weren't from East Prussia?
Florian Malessa
July 11 @ 9:55am
Yes I think they aren´t from East Prussia
Florian Malessa Florian Malessa
Former Admin
May 6, 2016 @ 3:14am
Thanks to our administrator Florian Malessa, this map is now where it belongs! With a klick on the link you may find even very small places!
Florian Malessa Florian Malessa
June 28 @ 7:23am
FDTDNA fixed a bug about bulk mails, after some month. As compensation there is up to and including 30.06., discount codes, if someone thinks about to order a test, he´is welcome to use these codes. $20 off Family Finder when you use code PROJECTSFF $40 off Y-37 when you use code PROJECTSY37 $49 off Y-67 when you use code PROJECTSY67 $60 off Y-111 when you use code PROJECTSY111 $150 off Big Y-700 when you use code PROJECTSBIGY Best Florian
brinn black brinn black has a question!
June 25 @ 2:09am
Does anyone know anything about people from East Prussia changing their surnames after the war?? I am unable to find anything about my Grandmother or her Family, except for an affidavit from 1951 saying that she lost her documents in 1945. 1) could she have really gotten around post war Germany/Poland/East Prussia without documents? 2) How common was it that people changed or lied about their last names after the war?
Florian Malessa
June 25 @ 4:52am
There were name changes during the Nazi era, some people with Polish names changed them to German names, my great grandpa changed his name from Isakowski to Kassing. There were many people who were unable to take their documents with them during the flight. My grandmother had no birth document and the documents in the registry office were destroyed during the fights. She was later issued a replacement birth certificate.
Dolores Schaffer Dolores Schaffer has a question!
June 21 @ 7:23pm
Is there a group for west and central Prussia?
Florian Malessa
June 22 @ 11:13am
Viktor Haupt Viktor Haupt
October 18 @ 8:32am
Today i have transferred my DNA-data from MyHeritage to support this group. All my ancestors are from East Prussia. My parents have been born there. Many lines of my ancestry i can trace back about 300 years, some lines i could follow for more than 400 - 500 years. I am familiar with all kind of sources and archives. Maybe i can support other group members to find their roots. However, i am looking foreward and i am curious to learn more about DNA genealogy.
Steve Royce
June 19 @ 11:44pm
Do you see anything on my great grandparents with surnames Maiewski and/or Sleuzauskute, (Americanized to Sluzas)? They emigrated in 1895 and 1899, respectively. Any help would be appreciated.
Stanley Waryck Stanley Waryck
June 14 @ 8:04pm
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has information on the surname Waryck. My great grandfather came to America in the late 1800's don't know which decade, he said that he came from Poland somewhere near the Russian border, on some documents that I have found he is listed as coming from Prussia. Thank you in advance for any insights and help.
Florian Malessa
June 15 @ 4:20am
Unfortunately, there are no persons with the surname Waryck in the registry office registers from East Prussia.
Stanley Waryck
June 15 @ 8:37am
Florian, thank you for the help, Can you point me in the direction of a website that would allow me to explore phonetic deviations of my surname. I am a little confused since my understanding is that the "w" would have a "v" sound in the languages of that area so my name would be pronounced "Var-y-tsk" or "Var-y-ch (with the guttural ch). I am grateful for any help. Again thank you for help.
Susanne Hult Susanne Hult has a question!
April 14 @ 5:40am
I looking for my Grandmother´s maiden name. In her passport it says she was born in Beuthen, 21st of April 1921.
Susanne Hult
April 14 @ 5:41am
Sorry, her name was Ursula Johanna Horstmann. We have heard the name Panek, but are not sure.
Florian Malessa
April 14 @ 11:29am
There are 2 villages with the name Beuthen, they are both placed in Silesia not in East Prussia. You can look here: https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/search?q=beuthen%20XTYPEro:pra&rpp=15&order=&page=2
Susanne Hult
April 26 @ 10:56am
Thank you, Florian. This might be the problem, that I have sought on the wrong Beuthen. I give it a try.
Cosette Pathak Cosette Pathak
April 4 @ 8:19am
Seeking information about the Kahlo family who emigrated from Konerich and lived in Defiance Ohio. My Great Grandfather was Karl Kahlo, born 1818.
Florian Malessa
April 9 @ 12:40pm
I´m sorry but I wasn't able to find a village with the name Konerich, also no person with the name Kahlo was found in the registry office index for East Prussia.
Dan Kubic Dan Kubic
April 8 @ 8:06pm
My husband's relative, Dan Kubic, his family was said to come from Prussia. Another admin said it appeared to be from Poland but I don't remember if that indicated West or East Prussia (they immigrated to the US about 1890; family name on the ship manifest was Kubich). I would love to know if there are any other extended family members in the area. But I don't know exactly where to go or how to search this as we have no other names than Andreas and Wilhelmina (Yanke?) Kubich and no exact town/city. The Kubich name was changed by their children to Kubic and Cubic. Thank you.
Florian Malessa
April 9 @ 12:35pm
There are no people with this last name in the registry office index for East Prussia: http://allenstein.vffow.de/namenskarte.php But note that many indexes were destroyed during World war 1 and 2.
Catherine Dwyer Catherine Dwyer has a question!
March 29 @ 6:00am
Hello, my great great grandfather Jacob Arndt was born in Preussisch Holland, East Prussia in around 1823. He migrated to Australia in the 1850's. His parents were John (presumably Johann) and Elizabeth Arndt (her maiden name may have been Liedtke). Do you know how I could obtain his birth records? Thank you, Catherine
Florian Malessa
March 30 @ 12:11pm
Hello Catherine, the church records your looking for are in the "Evangelisches Zentralarchiv Berlin" and also the Mormons have copies of the birth records. http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Ostpreu%C3%9Fen/Genealogische_Quellen/Kirchbuchbest%C3%A4nde_Kreis_Preu%C3%9Fisch-Holland On arcion you will find church records for Preussisch Holland online. But the years you need aren´t uploaded at the moment so you must wait abit. Please note that you by a pass to see the books. https://www.archion.de/en/browse/ Best Florian
Chris Pollette Chris Pollette has a question!
November 13 @ 6:40pm
Hello everyone. I have my grandfather's 1883 birth certificate from Liebemühl (Kreis Osterode), but according to this information, my great-grandmother was unmarried at the time of his birth (which I'm told wasn't uncommon at the time). I found two birth records for my great-aunts, both of which list my great-grandmother as unmarried. I have been trying to find evidence of my great-grandfather, but I can't find any records of him in East Prussia. My great-grandfather came to the U.S. in 1892, after which I can find quite a lot. Does anyone have suggestions on records I might use to make a connection? His naturalization records say he was born in Marienfelde (also Kreis Osterode).
Chris Pollette
November 15 @ 12:39pm
Thank you, Martin! I hadn't tried GEDBAS yet, so I will see what I can find. I find I have been ignoring Archion on purpose, in the hope that when I get back everything I want will have been scanned and put online the next time! Silly, I know.
Martin L. Skubinna
December 14 @ 2:03pm
Another idea is contacting the Kreisgemeinschaft for Osterode at https://kreisgemeinschaft-osterode-ostpreussen.de/. I'm not sure how helpful they will be. Another East Prussian portal is one operated by Fritz Loseries at www.Ahnen-gesucht.de. It is a pay for use portal.
Chris Pollette
December 17 @ 7:17pm
Thanks, Martin!