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Breland DNA Project

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Are you a member of the Breland DNA Project?
Dewayne Allday Dewayne Allday
November 23 @ 9:45am
Hello. I am new here. Please ignore my Allday Y-DNA results as they are not Breland. However, it's through my father's mother's side where Breland comes in. I descend through the Abraham Breland b. 1725 mentioned in your profile. I only recently realized my tree was wrong as I was showing my Hutto g grandfather married to an Elizabeth Knight, but found out Dorcus Breland was married to him and she died in childbirth with my grandfather. The boy survived, Dorcus Breland died, and then my ggrandfather remarried the Elizabeth Knight. Long story short, Elizabeth raised the Breland child as her own, but she came into the picture after Dorcus Breland died giving birth to him. I am interest
Thomas Hughes
December 2 @ 12:52pm
Hi Dewayne, you are a Family Finder match for several people in the project, including me. Welcome! And, thanks for joining.
Mark Breland Mark Breland
April 9 @ 7:24am
Please welcome our newest project member Nick Brealey! He recently joined the group and we are anxiously awaiting his BigY 700 results as well as Anthony Hartley's and mine. So happy to have you with us Nick!
Charles Baker
September 27 @ 3:12am
Any news?
Mark Breland
December 1 @ 9:54am
Howdy folks, we received the results of our latest BigY DNA testers awhile back and the analysis recently completed. We currently have 5 men who have tested, and all of us are positively related to a common male ancestor in England. These men are myself, Fritz Breland, Don Brearley, Nick Brealey, and Anthony Hartley. To recap our stories: Fritz and I can only document back to our Abraham Breler/Breland (1730-1805)...our common ancestor was one of Abraham's grandsons William Spencer Breland (1797-1875) who never left SC. Don is American-born, but can trace his Brearley line back to Lancashire, England in the late 1700s. Nick is an English native who traces back to John Brerely (ca. 1500) in the Derbyshire/Lancashire regions. Anthony is also an English native, but in search of his birth father...his surname is that of the man who married his mother, but they divorced long before Anthony was born. Based on all of our results, we can make rough estimates of when our respective branches broke off from our original common ancestor's main line. I won't bore you with the detailed technical analysis... Anthony's line branched off around1365AD, next was Don's around 1430AD, then Nick's around 1630AD (getting closer!), and finally Fritz and my line split off around 1795, which makes sense because that's about when William Spencer Breland was born. So by DNA science, this establishes Breland origins in England as far back as the 1300s and debunks the family lore of Hans Georg Briechlyn and Germany.
Brian Haley Brian Haley
November 27 @ 9:36am
I ordered the BigY 700 since the price is so low. Although my paternal line remains unclear, it will at least be another data point.
Mark Breland
December 1 @ 9:51am
This awesome news Brian, we'll look forward to your results!
Brian Haley Brian Haley
July 17 @ 9:23am
I have some news which has a minor impact on this project. As you know, my paternal line has been a brick wall ending with my 2nd ggfa, John W. Haley's alleged birth in North Carolina in the early 1820s. That was unhelpful in tracing the Breland origins, but at least it suggested some connection with the migration history. This picture now has changed in a less helpful way. John W. had 3 children, all produced descendants. I have always lacked autosomal matches to descendants of the other two of John W's children, but communications suggested it was due to lack of testing. Turns out this was wrong. Seven descendants of the other two children have tested and are related to one another, but not to my branch. Thus, there is a break in paternal ancestry, probably affecting my branch. I suggest people disregard the North Carolina connection.
Charles Breland Charles Breland
June 2 @ 9:24am
When Horace Greeley Breland, Sr. died, Charles Michael (Baggett) Breland asked for the large framed portrait of Calvert Wellington Breland. Grandma Breland made good on the request. She also gave C M this "Blue Goose" and a Breland family bible. The "Blue Goose" is in the name of Calvert Wellington Breland, Jr.
Tom Hughes
June 3 @ 1:30pm
Thanks for sharing this -- I had never seen one of these before.
Mark Breland Mark Breland
April 2 @ 7:25am
Big's official now that the Breland line has its pre-America origins in the Lancashire region of England. We received the BigY results from Don Brearley, the American who can document his ancestry to the village of Rochdale in Lancashire, England as far back as 1811. Family Tree DNA placed his terminal SNP (Y81845) one step above that of Fritz Breland and I (BY87823). This means Fritz and I share a common ancestor with this Brearley male in England sometime within the 400 years between 1300AD and 1700AD. Given the close Y-DNA matches with other English Brearley/Brealey/Brierly-connected males, I find this latest evidence compelling enough to completely refute the Breland Germanic origins story. I will be removing all references to the German Hans Georg Breichlyn clan from my tree. Don benefited from having his results interpreted to the much more detailed BigY700 test. I am upgrading my testing to also be at that same level to get a much finer granularity of comparison with him. At the very least, we should then be able to calculate a more definitive date that our branches mutated apart. This is an exciting finding but it still leaves us a bit in the dark as to when our Breland line left England to come here, and where they landed prior to Abraham showing up in North Carolina. According to many deep genealogical research experts, such a distinct lack of any history in Colonial times is a strong indication of indentured service or illegitimate birth. So this will be the area to keep digging deeper on. In the meantime, I have heard from the family of the late Graham Brealey in England that his son Nick will soon take the BigY 700 test and join our project. In addition to that bit of great news, Anthony Hartley, also in England and searching for his birth father, has also upgraded to the BigY 700! We will be looking for all our results to come out sometime in June...
Charles Baker
April 6 @ 4:47am
Perhaps you will find this helpful? My Baker relative has a 37 marker 0 genetic distance match named Graham Wrigley, earliest known paternal ancestor: "John Wrigley b.1733 Saddleworth Fold/Dobcross". Dobcross is a village in Saddleworth parish - it is about 5 miles away (as the crow flies) from Rochdale!
Mark Breland
April 9 @ 7:22am
Sounds an affirming piece of evidence...Y37 matches are considered the minimum threshold of a viable DNA connection, usually dating back many centuries though.
Brian Haley Brian Haley
November 23, 2017 @ 7:32am
For what it is worth, at 37 markers and a genetic distance of 1 I have matches to several descendants of a Jesse Baker, b. 1798 South Carolina, d. 1876 Indiana. Based on this I joined the Baker DNA Study. It groups me with Jesse Baker descendants. See I'm B141000.
Thomas Hughes
November 23, 2017 @ 10:07am
All of the Breland men in the project have that same Baker connection. Brian, please let us know what you learn from your involvement in the Baker DNA Study.
Brian Haley
November 23, 2017 @ 2:48pm
I keep sounding more and more Breland-ish than I ever knew. Thanks, Tom.
Charles Baker
February 27 @ 2:44am
Hello - I manage this account for my male Baker relative. He is R-M269, most close matches are in England/Scotland. Nothing really associated with Germany. I've noticed that he has several Breland Y-DNA matches. Baldwin, Hartley, Haley, Walker, Brearley, Briley are matches, too. Not very many Baker matches. Obviously something interesting is going on here. My male Baker relatives' earliest known Baker is Jesse Baker b. 1798 South Carolina, d. 1876 Indiana. He and his brother James b. 1800 South Carolina were supposedly orphaned at a young age - around 1805 - and they moved around 1815 to Indiana with an unknown uncle. Some Brelands and Bakers were both from South Carolina. I would like to connect with other matches and see if we can solve this Baker Breland mystery.
Mark Breland
April 2 @ 7:20am
Howdy! We're glad you joined us. Given the Y-DNA relationships and the nature of the early Baker relatives in South Carolina in the early 1800s, there likely is a Breland or Brierley connection of some sort. The inknown adoptive uncle may have been on their maternal that their mother's maiden name was Baker and that is what they assumed. We believe the Baldwin/Haley/Walker connections go way back sometime between 1300AD and 1700AD in England. The Hartley match was born and raised in Manchester, England and is tied to his mother's married name...he is searching for his unknown biological father and we believe he was a Brierley/Brearley.
Brian Haley Brian Haley
October 23, 2018 @ 8:54am
A new administrator on the Howard DNA Project has completed a regrouping that places my kit and kit 403439 (Howard) from our group in a lineage together with 8 other kits. All ancestors indicated except mine have Howard or Kent surnames and origins in Maryland or North Carolina in the 18th century.
Earl Howard
October 24, 2018 @ 10:25am
It's nice to finally have an active admin over there! By the way, the Kent matches were found to be part of a NPE by a Howard man, according to the Kent kits admin.
Brian Haley Brian Haley
September 20, 2018 @ 5:41pm
I just noticed that Don Brearley has retested as R-BY19407. There's one expectation confirmed. Welcome to the club, Don!
Pratt Vereen Pratt Vereen
May 30, 2018 @ 2:32pm
I saw on Breland DNA Project notifications yesterday that Lancashire in being zeroed in on as a probable origin of our Brelands. Last year I began corresponding with Jill Darwin from Lancashire after she found a (4th-6th cousin)DNA connection to my father, Felix Vereen, whos Ggrandmother was Truissa Jane Breland, daughter of Joseph T. Breland> Absolom Sr.> Abraham Sr. Jill's tree has Brearley, Brierley and Briely names. In the "shared matches" in's DNA section, all of the identifiable matches between Jill and my father are Breland. One of the matches, Craig Rushforth, is Jills closest match and he too is from Lancashire. The list below shows that all of the user names listed have shared DNA matches between known Absolom Breland Sr. descendants and two people who's families have been in Lancashire for generations (except Jill isn't amatch to leafrivermac). My father, JFV, shows in a range of 4-6th cousin to both Jill and Craig in Lancashire and that would be 5-7 generations back and Abraham Sr. is the 6th gen back from my father. user Breland connection Vereen Beasley [JFV] descended from Truissa Jane Breland E.B. (jobreland) descended from Truissa Jane Breland S.T. (jamietryon1) descended from Joseph T. Breland Leaf River Mac descended from Joseph T. Breland Chappell McLendon descended from Joseph T. Breland Patricia Guerra descended from Absolom Breland Sr. L.B. (wesleym.breland) descended from Absolom Breland Sr. Jeff5675 descended from Absolom Breland Sr. Jill Darwin Brearley, Brierley, Briely names in tree - Lancashire Patricia Ann Martin 6 shared Breland matches with JFV Shawn Christopher1 5 shared Breland matches with JFV David Downy 4 shared Breland matches with JFV Craig Rushforth ? - shared matches - Lancashire
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Mark Breland
July 17, 2018 @ 3:41pm
I'm amazed that I haven't seen this until just now! So when I looked at Craig Rushforth's tree on Ancestry, the name Baldwin leaped out at me because I have 9 Baldwin matches at 67 Y-DNA markers. Even more interesting is that his Baldwin ancestors all came from the Rochdale, Lancashire region. Pratt, would you be so kind as to introduce me to Jill by email? I can't find her or her tree on Ancestry...Thanks!
Mark Breland
July 18, 2018 @ 7:01am
Nevermind, I found her...Jill Darwen with an 'e', not an 'i'...
Mark Breland
July 19, 2018 @ 2:03pm
Pratt, so I went into Gedmatch and plugged in the kits of those who were uploaded there into their 3D Chromosome Browser. It proved out a shared segment on C10 for your Dad, my Dad (Homer K. Breland), and *RSB ( Richard Smith Breland). That triangulation gives a solid connection back to Abraham Breler/Breland at least. However, the kits for your Dad, Jill Darwen, and Craig Rushforth have shared segments on C9 that are not shared at all by my Dad or Richard. So without further triangulation, I think it's inconclusive at this point to believe there is a definitive connection to Jill and Craig in Lancashire through our Breland lineage. Either the C9 segment simply didn't pass down to my Dad and Richard, or that C9 segment came from Absolom Sr's wife...since my Dad and I are descended from Absolom Sr's brother, William.
John Vereen
July 30, 2018 @ 12:55pm
Thx Mark! Just seeing this; I dont get popups telling there are new messages.