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The Clan Gregor DNA Project is in its 7th year [2008] and still going strong, and has 305 active participants to date including some currently in progress. In the table of all surname projects the MacGregor project is the 11th in the world and 3rd largest of the Scottish clan projects (as at December 2007). FULLY UPDATED January 2008.
PLEASE NOTE THAT WHEN YOU GO ONTO THE Y and MtDNA RESULTS PAGES THE CHART TAKES UP TO 30 SECONDS (sometimes longer) TO LOAD. LEAVE YOUR BROWSER OPEN AT THE PAGE - DON'T MOVE OFF IT, THE RESULTS WILL APPEAR. THIS MAY BE BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM!
Historical Background:
The MacGregor bloodline traces its origin to a Gregor who lived in the 14th century though some genealogies go back further, to King Alpin. King Alpin’s descendants are said to have become the founders of not only Clan Gregor but, among others, the MacKinnons, MacQuarries, MacAulays and MacAlpines. The history of the MacGregors is a turbulent one and as a result the name was banned (proscribed) from 1603 to 1775, although in practice the worst years were from 1603-1642. From 1660-1693 the ban was in fact lifted, but it was re-imposed on the accession of King William of Orange as ‘punishment’ for the MacGregors taking the wrong side. This later ban had most effect in commercial terms since one could not use the MacGregor name on official documents. Many MacGregor families did not retake the clan name when it finally became legal to do so, and as a result, the Clan Gregor Society now recognises more septs and aliases than perhaps any other clan. Our hope is that over time it will be possible to understand more of the clan’s history from this project. Certainly there is no doubt that those who find that their DNA matches the bloodline will be able to claim a connection with the traditional genealogies, even if, for their particular family, the paper trail has dried up. | Family Tree DNA - Genealogy by Genetics, Ltd.
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Project Background, Goals, Results and News are copyright of the specific Surname Project Project Goals: The MacGregor DNA project exists to try to answer two questions - who are the MacGregors and where do they come from? Neither of these questions will be answered absolutely nor immediately since the science behind this is still young and results are still open to discussion.
However as the project has developed we have welcomed members from the various sept names. In many cases we find that those bearing these names are related to each other (a particular example is the Orr subgroup - this name is supposed to be Gaelic 'our' meaning dark). At the moment most of the sept names are separate groups who would therefore be associated with MacGregors as 'part-takers'. However since many of our members are in America it is hard to say whether these surname results are just coming from one or two original founders in North America and are therefore not necessarily typical for the names in all their various British/Irish original locations. | Family Tree DNA - Genealogy by Genetics, Ltd.
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Project Background, Goals, Results and News are copyright of the specific Surname Project Project News: CLAN GREGOR ACCEPTS MEMBERS ON THE BASIS OF A DNA SIGNATURE
PRESS RELEASE as reported in all the Scottish newspapers, The Times, various weeklies and local radios:
THE CLAN GREGOR SOCIETY OF SCOTLAND
Comunn Chloinn Ghriogair
Founded 1822 – Charity No. SCO 07391
Patron: Sir Malcolm MacGregor of MacGregor Bart
Press release for immediate publication
June 10th 2007
At the Council meeting held on Friday June 8th 2007, the Clan Gregor Society of Scotland agreed that it will, from this point onwards, accept into full membership of the Society individuals with ANY surname who can show, through DNA testing, that they have a DNA signature which matches, at the accepted degrees of mutational difference, that of the main MacGregor DNA signature.
Council has taken this decision in recognition of the fact that, as a result of Clan Gregor’s past turbulent history, individuals were required to assume names which were totally divorced from their actual clan name, and although such name changes were often documented at the time, others were not. The Clan Gregor Society Council recognises that the ancestors of some MacGregors chose not to return to the original clan name for a variety of reasons, and that advances in DNA testing now allows the descendants of such individuals to be identified as belonging to the clan.
In taking this decision the Council is conscious that it is the first Clan Society to promote membership on the basis of a DNA signature and it is to be hoped that other clans will follow this lead.
Details:
The Clan Gregor Society will admit to full membership of the Society anyone who can show 23 markers out of 25, or, up to 31 (but normally 33) markers out of 37 in common with the main MacGregor DNA profile which is found as kit number 2124 on the Family Tree DNA public website for the Clan Gregor Project (), and additionally, where marker DYS385a normally equals 10 (ten). We take this as the modal signature. For mutations this equates to a genetic distance of up to 6 (six) on 37 markers.
The Clan Gregor Society also recognises that there is a separate Irish based DNA profile for M(a)cGregors which is distinct from the main M(a)cGregor profile, indicating a probable separate origin for the name. Council will therefore also admit to full membership on the basis of this DNA signature, again without relation to surname. The same broad restrictions apply as in the previous paragraph except that for this group the reference kit will be 4715 but with the following alterations: marker DYS464b will be considered as having a modal value of 16 and DYS460 to have a modal value of 11, and DYS 19 (394) a modal value of 14. For the moment the scores on CDY a and b will be discounted in determining the Irish signature and therefore the match which will be considered is up to 30 out of 35 (that is, a maximum genetic distance of 5).
We believe that DNA testing now provides an extremely reliable tool for confirming surname-based descent based on analysis of the Y chromosome.
Signed
Professor Richard McGregor
Chairman
The Clan Gregor Society of Scotland .
10th June 2007
[older news]
MAPPING OF MOST DISTANT KNOWN ANCESTOR
I have finished updated the mapping of earliest ancestors, where known. Where there is no information please DO enter your own data and change any information which has now been superceded by new material.
Anyone wanting to put in a country of origin for an MtDNA result is invited to do so. I suggest that where the place is not known (e.g. where in Ireland) that the longitude/latitiude is set somewhere central in the country and the information bubble suggests the country but indicates somehow that the place is unknown.
It had always been assumed that because the clan was so persecuted only ‘true’ MacGregors would bear the name. Peter Lawrie’s (Vice Chairman of the Clan Gregor Society) recent work has demonstrated just how many of the bloodline MacGregors were in fact killed during the troubles which came upon the clan in the 17th century. Nevertheless, it is clear from the DNA that Clan Gregor does indeed have its origin in one individual but also that it contains ‘part-takers’ sharing a common ‘Celtic’, probably Dalriadic culture, AS WELL AS ‘part-takers’ whose paternal ancestry is Icelandic or Viking but whose ancestors over 400 years became entwined with the MacGregors. We should not be surprised to learn of the Scandinavian/Danish/ Norwegian connection since the Viking raiders were well known for their activities along the West coast of Scotland. | Family Tree DNA - Genealogy by Genetics, Ltd.
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Project Background, Goals, Results and News are copyright of the specific Surname Project Project Results: Full information on,and interpretation of, the Clan Gregor DNA results is found on the website of the Clan Gregor Society. The URL for the DNA Project is: Clan Gregor Society.
Make sure you check out the updates which are issued about every six months. The hotlinks to the updates are at the top of main DNA page. The last update was January 2007 and it contains a general analysis of the surname group results to that point. The next update will appear in Jan/Feb 2008.
Most of the currently submitted genealogies are given below. Any updated genealogies for any participant please to chairman@clangregor.org.
SUBMITTED GENEALOGIES as at January 2008
NB some more brief first ancestor data can be found on the Y results chart.This listing follows the chart order on the main results page.
Kit No:
(Mc)Grigor
7587 and 7183 descend from James MacGregor who married Maria Scott (possibly in 1853 at Wakefield) and emigrated to the US, and believed to descend from John (Mc)Gregor and Ann Dunn in Bankfoot Auchtergaven (son James who married Grizal or Grace Davidson).
27811 descends from James Grigor born in 1771: his parents may have been John Grigor and Janet Duff of Monidie, but it is difficult to connect, with certainty, from one generation to the next in the old parish registers. In 1804 James married Rebecca Richardson in the neighbouring parish of Redgorton. They had 5 children: John (1805), Isabell or Bell (1807), Jannet (1811), Gregor (1814) and Joseph (1818) all baptised in Monidie. James died in 1818 before the birth of Joseph. In 1839 Gregor married Jane Young in Auchtergaven. For most of his life, Gregor McGregor was gamekeeper at Dunkeld for the Duke and Duchess of Athol. At first the family lived in Dunkeld in a cottage called Tully Mully.
2726 is descended from Alexander MacGregor who fought in the Revolutionary Wars in the US
[Comment: the DNA correspondence between 27811 and 2726 suggests that they share a common ancestor, presumably the father of Alexander MacGregor ancestor of 2726 or one of his immediate ancestors].
Greer/Grier (Scots?)
10589 descends from Nathaniel Hunt Greer born 1802 d1855 (?descended from Thomas Grier d. Pennsylvania 1790).
Greer/Grier Viking
8339 descends from Alexander Greer bo. 1780 North Carolina (and may descend from James Grier bo. 1708 Co Antrim Northern Ireland).
Kit 45402 Greer
Robert John Greer born 1805 County Cavan, Ireland and immigrated to Canada btw 1823 & 1826 wife Matilda Henderson
Son: George Greer born 1845 Pot Hope, Durham co., Canada son of Robert John Greer & Matilda Henderson
Other Siblings:
a. Brother John Robert Greer b. 1830 Millbrook, Durham Co. Canada
b. Sister Maria Greer b. 1834 Ontario, Canada
c. Brother William R. Greer b. 1837 Calvin Twp., Peterborough Co., Canada
d. Dawson Greer b. 1842 Victoria, Canada
e. Sister Susan Greer b. 1848 Ontario, Canada
See also The Greer Project for further information about families at:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/GREER
Greig
81282 Earliest known ancestor is John Gragg(Gregg) born in 1690,county of Antrim,Ireland. He died in 1758 in Augusta ,Virginia. He married Nancy Ann Wood in 1717 in Cumberland Co, Pennsylvania. They had five known children- Thomas, Margaret, John F, Robert, and William Obediah. My family branch descends from Robert Gragg.
9690 descends from Thomas Greig 1753-1833 Aberdeenshire (Rathen parish). The father of Thomas was Alexander Grig (Born 12 Apr 1712) and his father was Andrew Grig.
This family has branches in the US, Scotland and England.
14973 descends from George Gregg 17(3)0-c1786 (blacksmith)Scotland m Agnes Sloan in Barr Old Cumnock 1761 and 2nd Agnas Couper, Barr Ayrshire1772. This family is now in the US.
99546 descends John Gragg born Antrim, Northern Ireland, c1690
6979 is descended from Thomas Gregg c1805-1871 Co Tipperary, Ireland. This family is now in the US
45360 Greig
1. James Greig, b. 1794 - 1807 in Scotland, d. 10 Mar 1865 in near Riverton, South Australia, occupation Farmer, immigrated Oct 1839 on 'Dumfries' into Port Adelaide, resided 1839 in Brownhill Creek, Hackham, Adelaide, South Australia, cause of death Decay of brain and general decay .
James GREIG (S,32, agricultural labourer) and Catherine COCK (S,21, dairy maid) applied on the "Register of Emigrant Labourer applying for a free passage to South Australia" April 10 1839. On the same register were John COCK (S,28, wheelwright) and Betsy Flockhart (S,20,dairy maid). All 4 were from Pathhead. [source: Reel 874 AJCP]
There was no record on the register of any of the 4 embarking in Australia. This was often the case as people would register for free passage but either not be eligible or they would not take up the offer.
The 'DUMFRIES' sailed into Port Adelaide on 10 October 1839 with Mr & Mrs GREIG disembarking. [Source Manifests of ships Vol2 p.37]. There was no record of John COCK or Betsy Flockhart on the 'Dumfries'.
Baby Thomas was aboard the ship coming out, but there is no formal register that he was aboard. James was born aboard ship on the way out [as per his birth registration].
James and Catherine did not formally marry until 2 Feb 1854 in St John's Adelaide.
He married Catherine Cock, married 2 Feb 1854 in St John's Church, Adelaide, b. c1814 in Scotland, d. 4 Jul 1887 in Cairn Hill, near Riverton, South Australia, cause of death Senile gangrene.
Children:
2. i Thomas Greig b. 1836. Born Scotland?
3. ii James Greig b. 23 Jun 1839. b. on board the “Dumfries”
4. iii William Greig b. 28 Mar 1842. b. BrownHill Creek, SA
iv Elizabeth Greig, b. 31 Mar 1844.
v Catherine Greig, b. 3 Oct 1846, d. 20 Mar 1864 in Cairn Hill, near Riverton, South Australia, cause of death Phihisis. Cause of Death: Phihisis.
5. vi Ellen Greig b. 28 Oct 1848.
6. vii John Greig b. 19 May 1850.
viii Robert Greig, b. 31 Mar 1852 in Brownhill Creek, Hackham, Adelaide, South Australia.
ix Alexander (Sandy??) Greig, b. 20 Oct 1854 in Brownhill Creek, Hackham, Adelaide, South Australia.
See also the Grigg project for more information on different families at: http://www.ftdna.com/public/GRIGG/
Gregory
30977 descends from Charles Gregory born c1719 Northanpton, North Carolina
1961 descends from Richard Gregory about 1580 from London
8100 descends from James Gregory born c1700 in Scotland
Note these two individuals are almost certainly related – both families are now in the US.
82049 descends from Charles Warrick Gregory born April 17, 1824 in either South Carolina or Alabama and died January 24, 1898 in Springtown, Parker County , Texas . It is not known who Charles W. Gregory’s parents were. Family history says that at some point in time the surname of the family was changed from McGregor to Gregory or Gregorie. Charles Gregory married Mary Elizabeth Parks in Chambers County Alabama November 5, 1849 . Charles and Mary Gregory had six children all born in Alabama : William O. Gregory born 1851, Fannie Gregory born 1853, John H. Gregory born 1855, Sara Gregory born 1857, Charles W. Gregory born 1858, and Christopher Gregory born 1862.
See also the Gregory project on different families at: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/GREGORYDNAProject/
Irish connected
7874 is descended from John Grier born Parton Dumfries 1714. This family currently lives in Australia.
4715 is descended from Patrick McGregor born 1768/69 in Ireland, died 1841at Mains Dundee (through son Francis). This family has remained in Scotland.
2944 descends from Hugh McGregor (or Graham) and Jean Johnston in Perthshire/Stirlingshire in the 1830s/40s
44083 McGregor
George McGregor (some have his middle name as William others no middle name known) Was born March 8, 1823 married Sarah Ann McIntosh b. 12 Oct 1826 in Allendale, Wabash, Illinois m. on 17 May 1847. George died 4 Nov. 1858 Lawerance Ill. Their children were:
William Henry b 13 July 1849 d. 26 Sept 1909
Annie Eliza b 29 Oct 1851
George Harrison b 10 May 1854 d. 13 Jan 1891 Wabash Co., Illinois
Twins born and died June 3&4, 1856
Samuel Elhanon b. 1858 d. 5 Jan 1926 (he had 21 children by two wives)
Annie married Vet Walker two children Sadie and Sam.
George had two daughters one named Florence
Rebecca no marriage shown
33323 descends from Robert Kinnay (Kinney) GRIERSON, b. 26 Nov 1854 Dalbeattie, Scotland. His Father was James Stewart Grierson, b. 11 Apr 1830 Castle Douglas, Scotland. The family history has it as three brothers immigrated to Maine in 1880, but it was more than likely The father (James), two sons ( Robert and William Kinnay GRIERSON), and a son-in-law (Joseph Baum) with Wife and Daughter (Wife; Mary GRIERSON and Daughter; Margaret Isabella BAUM). A third son (George Cartney GRIERSON) was supposed to come with them, but he injured his hand working at Craignair Quarry and couldn't come. The next son in line was too young to travel with them. They came over with a friend whose last name was Craven or Caven who owned his own boat. They worked at quarry at Clark's Island, Maine which is part of St. George, Maine and earned passage for the rest of the family for the following year.
In July 1881, the rest of the family arrived in Portland, Maine. The Mother; Margaret GRIERSON nee KINNA (KINNAY, KINNEY, MCKINNEY, MCKINNA) wife of James Stewart Grierson was introduced to a banana for the first time. Not seeing one before, she ate the whole banana peeling and all. Of course not liking it, she never ate another again.
James father William GRIERSON, c. 21 Feb 1795 Buittle, Scotland born at Corbieton Farm. He married Mary DOUGLAS b. bet. 1800 - 1802 Kirkpatrick Parish, Kelton, Scotland. His father was also named William who married Isabel PAPLE.
MacGregor (Ian Cam)
Kit no. 108707 descends from:
Robert McGregor
b. 22 May 1774, Stevenston (? this birth date is not certain)
d. Bef 1863 (not listed in 1841 census)
& Barbara Mackie
b. 1 Sep 1794, Irvine
d. bef 1863
m. 28 Feb 1815, Irvine By Reverend James Henderson
| Adam McGregor
| b. 8 Dec 1815, Irvine
| d. Bef 1873 (poss before 1861)
| & Elizabeth McTaggart
| b. 18 Feb 1825, Irvine
| d. 21 May 1873, Glasgow, Rose Street, 50
| m. 4 Aug 1845, Parish Of Dundonald
24029 descends John McGregor, born 1766, died Nov 1847; and his wife Anne Lang, born 6 May 1766, died 22 Jan 1840. Their youngest son Alexander, born 9 April 1805 was my immigrant ancestor who came first to Ontario in 1842, later to USA. The earliest information about John McGregor came from a letter written by his grand daughter Eliza McGregor McKenzie in 1931 and later published in American Clan Gregor Society’s 1932 Yearbook: ‘My grandfather on my father’s side was John MacGregor, who was born in Scotland in 1766. On June 1, 1788, he married Anne Lang. Eight children were born to them: John bo. 1790 James. bo. 1792, Robert bo. 1794 (died when a baby), Robert 2nd bo. 1796, Mary bo. 1798, Jessie bo1800, Annie bo1802, Alexander bo. April 9, 1805, at Renton, Scotland
64981 descends from Donald MacGregor (b1760 - buried in Scotland) married Jan 20, 1781, Kenmore, Scotland to Janet Campbell (d fall of 1848 or winter 1849) in Canada and is buried in Breadlabane Cemetary, One of their sons was:
Alexander McGregor (b1811 -d. Apr.28, 1875 native of Perthshire) he married Margaret Carscadden (b. 1807 - d. 1871)one of their sons:
Thomas MacGregor (b. 1853 d. Dec.28,1929) married Ellen Jane Smirle (b.1856-d. Nov.20, 1941) One of their daughters was.
"Mc" changed to "Mac" in the early 1900s . All the siblings made the change at the same time.
AND
Donald MacGregor (b. 1760 & Janet Campbell (d. 1848 or 49)etc. One of their daughters, sister to Alexander McGregor (see above)was:-
Isabella MacGregor (b.1809 d.1888) married her first cousin John MacGregor (b. 1792 d.1883) ( he was apparently previously married to a "Margaret"). One of Isabella and John's sons was-
Peter MacGregor (b.1821 -d. May 10,1882) on Jan. 10, 1862 he married Susanna Cumming of Perthshire, Scotland,(b. Apr.30,1838 - Feb. 27, 1889.) One of their sons was:
Peter Alexander MacGregor (b.Oct.21,1870 d. Mar.26,1959 ) was married on Feb. 26, 1896 to Agnes Feeley (1870 -1943 ).
10897 descends from Alexander MacGregor who married Margaret MacFarlane in 1847 in the Gorbals, Glasgow. Members of this family are now in France. This is almost certainly a Glencarnoch family (i.e. of the Chief’s line).
N3589: Around one hundred years ago a great uncle of this family, John Knox Bain, wrote his autobiography and in it he stated that his Bain ancestors came from Scotland due to their religious beliefs. He said that the three Bain brothers were Charles, Peter, and George and that he was the great grandson of Peter. Peter settled in Virginia sometime before 1770 and was the father of Robert Edwin (Edward) Bain. Edwin moved to South Carolina and had a large family. One of his sons, Peter, moved to Tennessee and was the father of John Knox Bain and my GGG Grandfather, Henry David Bain. Henry was the father of Peter (Elonzo?) Bain and the grandfather of Atlas Bain. They moved to Arkansas in the 1880s and Peter and Atlas later moved to Oklahoma in 1918.
20123 descends from Angus MacGregor born c1850 in Fort William. This family subsequently emigrated to the US.
1774 is descended from the MacGregors of Glengyle (2 generations earlier than Rob Roy’s branch). This family lives in the UK.
10454 descends from Donald Roy MacGregor (married to Margaret MacGregor) who lived in Rannoch in the early nineteenth century. This family is now in the US.
71565 is believed to descent from Coll (son of Rob Roy) through a son Gregor (bo 1715) married Catherine McIver (but this would have to be at the age of 14). Children include Duncan (Drummond) born 1742 who married Catherine Mailer 1760 in Auchterarder, their son John born 1762 Muthill parish married Elizabeth Gardiner in 1785 in Kilmadock parish.
4714 this family is believed to descend from Duncan McGregor in Fortingall parish married to Chirsty Cameron in the late 18th century. This family now lives in England.
24470 descends from JAMES MACGREGOR bo. about 1760 in Muthill parish m. Katherine McNabb of Callander Parish July 2nd 1793
Children 1) Margaret bo. about 1795 m. Capt Donald Fraser - 1816 in Montreal, Canada; 2) Edward bo. ? in war of 1812 - 14. battle of Lundys Lane death ??;
3) Duncan b. 1800 d. 1884 at Fournier, Ontario.
The Family emigrated to Canada in 1800 to the Toronto area and owned 400 acres at Markham. They moved in 1823 to Glengarry area, reason unknown.
Duncan m. Catherine Fraser from Glengarry cty, of Glen Roy
9290 this MacGregor family using the alias Stirling descends from Robert Stirling born 1668 at Gateside of Glassingall, Dunblane parish to William Stirling (?d1688). Robert died in 1747. The family now lives in New Zealnd with branches still in Scotland.
12511 descends from John MacGregor born 1827 in Scotland, emigrated in1852 to the US (New York).
44327 McGregor
John McGregor, date and place (assumed to be Forfar) of birth unknown, probably because of name change after the proscription was lifted. Married Agnes McGregor (nee Keith)
• John McGregor, blacksmith http://thecapitalscot.com/scotplaces/Kirriemuir/Smithy/smithy.html born 6/2/1791 at home in Forfar, Scotland. Married Susan McGregor (nee Ogilvie, a.k.a Ogilvy)
•David McGregor, born between 1835-1838 at home in Kirriemuir, Forfar, Scotland. Married to Ann McGregor (nee McLean). David McGregor, a woodman, and his wife Ann McLean lived in a house (long gone) in the Glengate where his son, was born
3346 descends from James born 1760 in Weem parish and married at Jean Stewart in 1782 at Dull parish. This family still lives in Scotland.
25633 descends from William McGregor who was a weaver/tailor in Glasgow, known as William The Weaver bo1791 in Perthshire, Scotland and d. 1871 in Peterboro, Ontario, Canada. Married 3 August, 1817 in Campsie, Stirling, Scotland Margaret Elizabeth [?] Taylor bo. 24 May, 1790 in Campsie, Stirling, Scotland d. 1892 in Peterboro, Ontario, Canada. They had four [4] sons and one [1] daughter. The sons were all apprenticed to a brother in Glasgow to serve as coopers. In the late 1800's the family emigrated to Peterboro, Ontario, Canada. William continued as a weaver/tailor but the sons all became farmers and emigrated from Canada to the United States.
3346 has descent as follows:
Robert MacGregor dob 08 February 1742 at Balquidder
James MacGregor 11 May 1760 at Weem, Perthshire (m 1782 at Dull)
James MacGregor 02 November 1789 at Dull, Perthshire
Robert MacGregor 14 May 1806 at Perth
James MacGregor 28 February 1846 at Perth
2124 is descended from the MacGregors of Glencarnoch (Chief’s line).
2909 is descended from possibly Peter/Patrick (son Hugh Evan) who were from the late nineteenth century resident in Jamaica.
16858 descends from Malcolm McGregor born c1812 in Fortingall, he married Catherine Kennedy in Clunie parish and the family emigrated to the US.
18760 is descended from Peter McGregor from Fowlis Wester (born c 1800) who married Elizabeth Muller or Miller and the family subsequently emigrated to the US.
38027 Stirling
This is the same family as above descended from Robert farmer in Glassingall by his son James. This branch of the family passed on the tradition that they were Glenstrae MacGregors.
James Stirling in the Dowrie and Janet Gardner had several children but one, Patrick Stirling, settled in Pendreich in Logie Parish and married Ann Kidston. A son, James Stirling farmed in Inverallon of Lecropt. His son James farmed in Mid Lundie in Kilmadock and eventually came to Bannockburn, where he died.
13429 descends from John McGregor 1828-1895 born Balnaguard, Dull parish. The family still lives in Scotland.
2125 is believed to descend from Patrick Malloch or MacGregor who had a son John in Kenmore parish in 1729. This family is now in the US.
22187 is believed to descend from Patrick McGregor or Stirling born c1700, married Janet Fergusone: variously in Balquhidder/Callander/Kilmadock parishes. This family is now in England. 5356 descends from Alexander McGregor born 1818 Pennsylvania
12596 is descended from John McGregor born 1807 in Paisley, Renfrewshire (to parents John McGregor and Ann Watson), died 1871. This family is still in Scotland.
17990 descends from Alexander McGregor who married Janet McGregor. They came from Lochearnside and moved in the early 18th century to Drummond Moss in central Scotland which was being drained at the time. This family is now in North America.
108052 descends from John McGregor born 1859 in County Tyronne, Ireland. His parents were Malcolm McGregor and Jane McIntyre. (Malcolm went to Ireland to be the Hinegardner to Sir Gerald Aylmer). Their eldest son was Gregor McGregor, born 18 Oct 1848 in Kilmun.
12162 MacGregor
MacGregor, Janet dau of Ranald son of Rob Roy
b. Abt 1743, Scotland
d. Bef 1803, Scotland
married:
1. Alexander MacGregor,(this is the Y chromosome line)
b. 1735, Scotland
2. Duncan MacGregor
b. Abt 1762, Rannoch, Perthshire, Scotland
d. Abt 1840
m. Kennedy, Margaret
b. Abt 1770, Scotland
3. MacGregor, Duncan
b. 1811, Pictou, Nova Scotia, Canada
d. 2 Jun 1866, Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada
m. Dalzell, Jean
b. 1817, Dumfries, Scotland
16798 is descended from John McGregor who married Ann Stobie in Monzie in (1826). (John was the son of John Row? McGregor and Mary McDonald). This family is now in Australia.
26174 also descends from the same.
A John McGregor and his wife Anne (Stobbie, daughter of Mary Graham and John Stobbie from her death Cert.) were married in Monzie Perthshire 14th June 1826.
They had a daughter Elizabeth born 1827 Newrow, mother's name given as Janet, (as she was with them on the ship to Australia we can assume that this was an error), Mary born 1829 at Newrow, Monzie, Catharine baptized at Crieff 1831, John baptized Glassworks, Alloa, 1833, and William born 1836 (his birth or Baptism we cannot find). They all sailed for Australia on the 'John Barry' which left Dundee March 1837 ,and arrived in Port Jackson 13/7/1837. Mary died at sea of fever and was buried at sea 27th May 1837.
On the ships passenger list John gives his age as 33 and occupation as Grieve. We don't believe that this was his correct age as men lowered their age to get passage on the ship and every document we have gives him a different age. We believe that his birth would have been c1790. He also states that all the family were born in Monzie.
13621 a Stirling MacGregor shares the same ancestor as 38027 and 9290 above. Some of this family are in Scotland,others branches in Australia.
Further notes on the Stirlings:
This McGregor family using the alias Stirling descends from Robert Stirling in Gateside of Glassingall parish of Dunblane. Robert's occupation bet 1693-1647 was as farmer in Gateside of Glassingall He Died 22 May 1747 at Gateside of Glassingall,buried 24 May 1747 Dunblane Cathedral Churchyard in the Stirling lairs which are now under grass.
Robert was an Elder and Treasurer of Dunblane Kirk,his son John was also Treasurer of the same Kirk
Kits 13621,38027 and 9290 have the same ancestor, 13621 and 38027 descend from James,where as kit 9290 descends from Henry last child of Robert.
Miltary Service. Robert's son James fought on the Jacobite side at Sheriffmuir the ancestor of 13621,38027. James was in the Duke of Perth's men who failed to charged,so he charged with Alexander Drummond of Balhaldie (MacGregor} his relative,with the MacGregors,James was also at the battle of Prestopans in the 1745's
M(a)cGregor distant
19304 from Daniel McGregor born 1819, married Elizabeth MacLachlan and connected to Kilmun parish, Argyllshire (family emigrated to the US).
15199 descends from Gregor MacGregor believed to be born 1776 at Stronyre in Balquhidder parish. His parents would be Duncan McGregor and Janet McNaughton.
Duncan may be the son of Effie McNicol and Duncan McGregor. The family emigrated to Canada and the US.
28296's earliest known ancestor is William McGregor, who married Catherine McLaren in 1782 in Callander parish, and lived in Duncraggan. His great grandson, Duncan, immigrated to Sydney, Australia in 1887. It is believed that William was born William McComas in 1755 in Duncraggan, the son of Donald McComas and Janet Ferguson, who were married in Callander parish in 1744. Donald may possibly be the son of Thomas McComas and Marion McNie, born in 1719 in Duncraggan.
94589 descends from Charles McGregor born Clackmannanshire c1795/6, possibly the son of Hugh McGrigar and Isobel Dawson. He died 1877 (no wife given) and was the father of Robert who married Jane Thomson.
17711 is descended from John MacGregor (bo. 1825) at Milnathort, Kinross and he married Johanna Susan Healey from near Dublin Ireland - all his biological children were from her. His second wife was Susanna Nauffts of Halifax, Nova Scotia John was son of Mary MacGregor (and ?Duncan, a carter). This family is now mainly in Canada.
2363 and 4151 descend from John Callum married 1735 to Christian Harriwood in Keith Banffshire. The family (re)adopted the name McGregor in1778. This family now lives in England.
99676 descends from Duncan MacGregor who was born on the 28th Feb 1805 Shornland of Kinlochewe, Gairloch d St Vigeans 1887. His death certificate details his parents as Alexander MacGregor & Katherin McDonnald. Duncan's first marriage was to Anne Matheson (1828 Lochalsh) and his second marriage was to Ann Christie (1834 Arbroath). This second marriage was a bigamous marriage for which he went to prison (records exist). Children were Donald 1830 Lochalsh, Duncan 1840, John 1842, William 1844 all born Arbroath.
Kit 85272
The earliest known ancestor for this branch is in the 1841 census for Lochbroom at Carnoch
Alexander McGregor aged 60 therefore born abt 1780
Married to Margaret McDonald aged 57
They were married in Lochbroom 28 Feb 1805
Angus McGregor, son, aged 28 (christened at Lochbroom 18 Nov1810)
Mary McGregor, daughter, aged 20
Another son living next door
Duncan McGregor married to Janet McDonald
Unfortunately both Alexander and Margaret died before 1851 or more precisely 1855 as their death certificates would have provided parents names etc which would have been most helpful.
Alistair McLeod, at the Inverness library first told the submitter this story, and it is generally accepted in the Lochbroom area, that these McGregors came from Torridon area about the beginning of the 19th century – a place by the name of Baden Mhughaidh which is a few miles east of Shieldaig. They were brought up to Carnoch by John McDonald a tacksman who later went to Lewis.
It is possible that they were descendents of McGregors settled in the Torridan area by Alexander McKenzie of Coul, half brother of Roderick McKenzie of Castle Leod ie tutor of Kintail. Roderick paid heavy fines for sheltering McGregor refugees after the King outlawed the name in the 17th century.
95193 descends from James McGregor (age 70+ in 1841) (poss. shoemaker) who married Margaret Geddes (d1856) in Rathven Banffshire. Family at least three brothers John d 1881, James d 1899(both married Benzies women) and Duncan [William Gordon] (d 1910) m Catherine Ross, all living in Keith. John's descendants moved to Petty, Invernesshire.
20630 descends from David Alexander Macgregor, born in Scotland in 1852 from Edinburgh via Carlisle with his father, James Ross Macgregor in 1854 The father, an engraver and experienced book binder, tried to expand his business in the US by engraving Christmas cards. James' father, David, was an Edinburgh artist whose paintings of ships hang in several museums including the art museum in Edinburgh. David's (James' father) wife was apparently a Mackenzie, the neice of Captain Donald Mackenzie, the celebrated soldier from the Crimean War and the Sepoy Rebellion
29834 descends from the Rev William McGregor, purportedly from a place called Glen Ossian in Scotland, one of a band of brothers – Bartlett, John , Andrew and Alexander (Kit 84081 is from the same line.
45763 MacGregor
Rev. John Fraser MacGregor
1829 - 1907 = Anne Wright of Tongue b. 1836
[son]
Francis Alexander MacGregor
1865 - 1936 = Annie Wilson Horn
1880 - 1955
This family comes from Alvie near Aviemore in Speyside
7783 descends from Andrew McGregor (c1840 Fossoway-1903, married to Helen Taylor in 1861) the son of John McGregor (a cellarman) and Mary Whyte. This family now lives in England. NB this is not believed to be the same family as kit 17711, although the similarity of name and place is striking
98515 descends from James Grigor, son of Donald Grigor and Janet McGlashan. Born Feb. 26, 1810 in Luncarty, Redgorton Parish, Perth
Christened March 1, 1810 in Redgorton Married March 23, 1832 in Ardrossan, Ayr to Elizabeth Bryan (as McGregor). Died April 21, 1868 at 91 Eglinton St., Glasgow.
13403 descends from John McGregor born 1759 in the Highlands -c1823 (and married to Mary McMillan) who became a soldier and went to Canada where the family still lives
75529 descends from Alexander MacGregor, born 26 Jun 1772 and died 06 Dec 1828 in Liverpool. I think his father may have been one John MacGregor, b. 19 Mar 1730 Thornhill, Dumfries, Scotland but this has yet to be proved.
Alexander MacGregor was a Merchant & Banker. He was appointed as an Agent for the Bank of England in July 1826 to open the Manchester Branch which was the first branch outside of London. The branch opened on 21 September 1826 at 35 King Street, before moving to new premises designed by C R Cockerell in King Street 1847. Alexander McGregor left on Oct 16th 1828 and was paid £1,000. He had 4 sons; Alexander, James, William and Walter Fergus and 2 daughters; Elizabeth Jane & Helen. He also had a famous step son, George Finlay b. 21 Dec 1799 who was a close friend of Lord Bryon & settled in Greece.
Alexander MacGregor the younger (09 Dec 1806 - 26 Apr 1842) was a Physician who committed suicide. Single.
James MacGregor (01 Aug 1808 - 05 Sep 1858). Started in banking, Became Chairman & Director of the South Eastern Railway Company (Bet. 1845 – 1854) & MP for Sandwich in Kent (Bet. 1852 – 1857) – participant’s line.
William MacGregor (09 Aug 1810 - 07 Jan 1842). Merchant. Single.
Walter Fergus MacGregor (19 Sep 1812 - 11 Jun 1863). Engineer. Main director of George Forester & Co. Liverpool.
Another renowned MacGregors in this family were:
Rev. William Macgregor; (16 May 1848 - 26 Feb 1937) Walter Fergus’s second son. Generous benefactor of Tamworth & famous amateur British Egyptologist.
Jane Baillie Welsh b. 14 Jul 1801 married the famous author Thomas Carlyle in on 17th Oct 1826 in Templand, Thornhill, and Dumfries, Scotland. She is also famous in her own right for the numerous letters she wrote. In them, she mentions her cousin, Walter Fergus MacGregor of Liverpool whom she secretly loved. When he married, her letters did not hide her jealousy.
In trying to find our how they are cousins the only thing the participant can find in common is the place Thornhill, Perthshire (near Port of Mentieth), Scotland where Walter’s father Alexander MacGregor was apparently born 26 Jun 1772, and his father John MacGregor 19 Mar 1730.
[Project co-ordinator: this genealogy is very likely correct)
McAdam(s)
3133, 9567, and 12683 are probably descended from the same individual. It is said that 3 brothers went to America about 1740 and lost track of each other. Tradition says they were military members of the Scottish ‘Black Watch’ regiment sent to the Orangethroup Colony in Georgia, or they came to the US from Ireland. Earliest known ancestor of 9567 and 12683 was Thomas McAdam born c1735 and lived in Washington Co. Tennessee, US and earliest known ancestor of 3133 is James McAdam born 1748 in Virginia, USA, but this family went there from Washington County. Member 23214 of the McAdams project is probably of this family.
8857 is descended from a McAdams ancestor who emigrated to Texas from Armagh Ireland c1779. This individual and members 20224 and 21318 of the McAdams project appear to come from the same family group
5276 is descended from John McAdams born c1735 and married Sarah Sloss in 1754 in Pennsylvania, US
11255, and 11256 are descended from Robert McAdams who went to the US in 1774 – the documentation suggests that the family descend from the Craigengillan McAdams family of S.W. Scotland. 16568 is probably related to this family through another branch who came to Orange Co. from Lunenburg Co. (in the U.S.) in the 1770s. Also related to this family group are 20244, 20245 and 20225 in the McAdams project.
3714 and 5223 descend from Thomas McAdams born before 1737 (d..c1766) in County Down, Ireland – the family emigrated first to Charleston, US in 1767.
For more information on other results and family information see http://www.mcadamshistory.com/post.html
(Administrators: mlmcadams@verizon.net;mcadams@jps.net)
Orr
All but one of the Orrs so far tested, with one who still lives in Ireland, appear to originate from the family of that name in Co. Donegal, Ireland.
71238 descends from Daniel Orr, born 26 October 1806 at Ballymena, County Antrim, Ireland. It is believed that his father George Orr (farmer) and mother Ann McIntyre were from Scotland, and he had a brother John Orr
who was a mine manager in Glasgow (d. 1860).
Daniel was a Sgt of the Royal Irish Constabulary. He married Mary Blakeley
(sometimes given as Bleakley) on 4 August 1845 at Ballymoney Parish, Antrim,
Ireland. Late in his life he emigrated with his wife to Australia to join
his family and died in Glebe NSW on 9 October 1886, aged 80.
The family is related to Daniel's son, Reverend John Flanaghan Orr, who
emigrated earlier to Australia in the 1860s.
23729 descends from John Orr (b.1805 Donaghadee, County Down, N Ireland) and Eliza Nevin. John Orr and Eliza Nevin are likely descendants of Ulster Plantation settlers. Their son, George Orr, immigrated to the United States
c1872.
Sept or like names
3152 Shankland. An extensive genealogy for this family can be found at http://pages.prodigy.net/ronald.l.shankland
13678 - John Anderson Stirling, earliest known ancestor David Skirling, b. ca 1745, married Janet Wallace 01 Aug 1773, Dunnichen, d. 15 Mar 1798, Dunnichen. Family still living in Scotland, though branches did emigrate to New Zealand and the United States.
16710 - Wayne L. Stirling, earliest known ancestor John Skirling, b. ca 1730, probably in Barry, Scotland, died aft. 1784, Barry or Panbride, Scotland. Descended through John Skirling's grandson, James (bapt. 17 Jul 1792, Panbride) who emigrated in to Upper Canada 1840 with his wife, Elizabeth Lawrence, and their children, Three of his brothers (George, Alexander and William), their wives and children emigrated at the same time.
13635 - Feltus Barrow Stirling, Jr., earliest known ancestor Andrew Skirling, b. Kinnettles, ca 1714, married Jean Nevay ca 1735, d. Nov. 1780, interred Kirkton of Kinnettles. Descended through Andrew's son Alexander Stirling (bapt. 07 Jul 1751, Kinnettles), who emigrated prior to the American Revolution and eventually settled at West Feliciana Parish, Louisiana.
19870 descends from William McGhee 1839-1916 Philadelphia County US.
Kit 30468 White/Whyte
John White.b.1662 at Clackmannan.Married at Clackmannan about 1680 to Janet Dodds who was born there in 1664.Their son Robert was born in Alloa.(It states about 1695 and christened 28 Jan.1688. It must be a mistake) He,(Robert)
married Catherine Short born 1695. in 22.6.1714. and their sons,John,Chris.14 6.1717. Robert, Chris.15 9.1721.James likewise
2.6.1728. Helen, baptised 6.2.1726.Their son, James married Margaret or Ann Winton b.31.8.1744 and they had a big family.
The earliest Megehee ancestor that can be proved by a paper trail is William
MackGehee who was born about 1670, probably in York County, Virginia. This William MackGehee lived most of this life in what is now Hanover County, Virginia, and died there by about 1747, when his son, Samuel, was listed in the Quaker Records as taking care of his Mother, Mary.
This William had a brother (not proven by a paper trail, but established by
Y-DNA testing) named Thomas MackGehee, who was born about 1665, also
probably in York County, Virginia. Thomas left his will in King William
County, Virginia, dated in 1724, and probated in 1727.
There is a William MackGahye, who was listed as a head right in William
Hoccaday's grant of 1,000 acres in 14 Apr 1653. This William MackGahye
testified in Court in York County, Virginia, on 17 Nov 1658, when he said he
was "about 40." There is no paper trail connecting this "MackGahye" to
either of the later "MackGehee's," but it is believed that he was most probably
the father of both William and Thomas.
Descent from William MackGehee (the Quaker) and from Thomas MackGehee (of the 1724 Will) have been documented in the three volume "McGehee Genealogy," by Ethel Grider (a descendent of Thomas MackGehee through his son, Edward).
30468 - the earliest known (presumed) ancestor is John White,born in Alloa in 1662.He was married to Janet Dodds,who was born in Alloa in 1664. They were married about 1680's.Their son Robert was born there in 1695. He married Catherine Short who was born around that time.
23501 - William Stewart Stirling, earliest known ancestor James Stirling (or Skirling), b. ca 1740, married 26 Dec. 1773, Kinnettles, Margaret Whyte of Kinnettles, he was from Inverarity, d. before 1858. Family still living in Scotland, with some branches in the United States.
Viking Group
12391 King, this family descends from William King who emigrated to the US as a boy in about 1854. His family lived in Paisley, where his father was a futerer (keeper of hounds). His (William's) father was born in Londonderry
41054 descends from Samuel Thomas Maloch/Malloch in Montgomery County North Carolina, East side of the Peedee and Yadkin Rivers. Samuel Thomas was born about 1787 in North Carolina.
Other
12189 is believed to descend from William Lowrie whose supposed son William married Isobel Craig in 1680 in Banff parish, (Scotland).
46397 descends from Duncan McIlchonnel , tenant farmer, Littleport, St. Fillans, Perthshire, (born probably circa 1700 but date, place and names of parents not presently known), through whose eldest son by his first wife Kathrin McNab , one Alexander McIlchonnel born at Littleport and baptised 25th. August 1726 (see O.P.Rs. Comrie 341/1). Duncan's second wife was Katherine McGibbon by whom he had a second son John bapt. 29th. Dec. 1728 , and a daughter Jannet bapt. 3rd. August 1733 (see O.P.Rs. Comrie).
6376 descends from William Dowie born 1776 in Newburgh Fife (married Mary Smith). This family lives in England.
6747 descends from James Gruer who died in 1807 at Braemar aged 72 years. According to his tombstone, laid in 1859, the site had been the burial ground for the Gruers for 450 years. Members of thisd family were among the leading members of the Friendly Society that was to start the Braemar Highland Games as a way of raise money for those in need.
45407 descends from a MacLean in 1710, who was born MacLergan, which comes from the name Maclean.
MtDNA
Kit no 100615, furthest ancestor was Jennet Arthur, b approx 1680 in Perth, Scotland, married to James Wright of Bendochy Perth in 1709. | Family Tree DNA - Genealogy by Genetics, Ltd.
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