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I2b2 L38+

Group Administrator: Timothy Weakley - Email: weakleyfamily@gmail.com
Group Co-Administrator: Stephen Ralls - Email: sa@ralls.us

Project Surnames

Attwood, Bailey, Ballou, Barker, Bassett, Beaton, Bellew, Bond, Boucher, Brabazon, Brooks, Bullock, Burgess, Butler, Campbell, Carter, Connolly, Cruickshank, Cullen, Cushing, Dabrowski, Dale, Daniels, Davis, de Beule, Dennis, Deterding, Disney, Doan, Doty, Eastwood, Engedahl, Evans, Farquhar, Fischbach, Fleury, Fortner, Foster, Gamble, Garrett, Garrison, Grantner, Gray, Guittard, Hainer, Hamblin, Haney, Harbert, Harrill, Hill, Holmes, Holton, Huggins, Hurbi, Hutchinson, Hutchison, I2b2-L38, Jackson, Judd, Lawrence, Lovett, McAllister, McBee, McClellan, McCratic, McKinney, McKinzey, Miles, Miller, Morrel, Newsome, Parker, Paxton, Pfeffer, Phillips, Price, Pullen, Ragan, Ralls, Reynaud, Richerson, Riviere, Robinson, Rodriguez, Rogers, Rose, Ross, Rusk, Rust, Salvesen, Sawyer, Sawyier, Seaver, Shannon, Shivers, Sivers, Smith, Stanley, Stone, Strohmeier, Tatucha, Traber, Van Brussel, Wagner, Waterhouse, Watson, Weakley, Weathers, Webb, White, Williamson, Withers, Wolfe, Woodworth, Wootan, Worthington

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Project Background

This project deals with a sub-group of the haplogroup called I which is known at the present time as I2b2.

The subclade of the Y-DNA haplogroup called I2b2 has been previously known as I(x), I1b2*, and I2b*. It was first described in May 2005 on the Genealogy-DNA list at Rootsweb.com. This consisted of several conversations between Bonnie Schrack and Ken Nordtvedt. Later they were joined by Glen Todd.

It can be defined by using SNP shorthand as L38+. I2b2 can be typified as belonging to the I group but having DYS455 = 10, DYS454 = 12, and 19-19 at YCA as modal values. In a recent conversation with Ken Nordtvedt a possibility of a further sub-division based on the value DYS448 was discussed. His view is that a larger sample would be needed to make a proper determination. I have used this value for seperation of the minor groups on the spreadsheet. For group I2b2-A a value of 19 for DYS448. For -B a value of 21, and for -C a value of 20.

When you look at the surnames in the sample it quickly becomes evident that the group appears to almost exclusivly have an origin in Germany and England. Does this represent a Saxon settlement beginning? Once again the rarity of the group in the sampled population makes conclusions impossible at this point. Having said that though, I must say that I find it more interesting to be a part of a small sample than I would to be lost in the "multitudes" of the larger groups.

The Wikipedia Article on the Lichtenstein cave skeletons:Lichtenstein Cave

Hans De Beule has set up a page with his papers written on his theories of the origins of our group. These very good papers can be seen at: In Search of the Origin of I-L38 (aka I2b2)