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2017 Aug 20 -
We have started a fund for a Big Y test, kit 
154747 in the DENNIS  group.  This will give us a total of three Big Y's for this group.  Even on sale this test is pretty expensive.  We are hoping to get at least $450 by December 2017.  It is our opinion that everyone who belongs to this SPRINGER line will benefit.  Please, when making your donation specify that it is for a Big Y for kit # 154747.  Of course, anyone in this YDNA group who wants to order and pay for their own Big Y (just notify Melissa Robards first), it will be much appreciated.








2015 Aug 30 News:
OK, hold off on any donations for this specific request, we might have this resolved ~melissa

To all descendents of Christopher Springer d. Sweden 1669 and whose son Charles settled in the area now known as Wilmington, Delaware.


Nothing is known for sure where Christopher came from, but there are some clues to consider.  From Christian Andersson:


1626 September 2.  The Swedish Treasury authorized a payment to one"Gabrielska", and on the next day the payment was made to Christoff Springer for the account of "Anna Marie Geborne Kosselin". There is no power of attorney from her to Springer in the record and no explanation of the relationship between Gabrielska and Springer.  Possibly her name was Anna Maria and she was born at Kosel or Gosel, a town on the River Oder near Breslau in East Germany. This is the earliest reference to Christopher in Sweden and ,with the following references to his life in Stockholm, makes it clear that Christopher was not (as alleged in M.C. Springer's book) the son of Christoph Christlief Christian Springer of Lamstedt, Hanover, who lived in Lamstedt and in Berlin and is said to have come to Sweden in 1648.  Cf Also "The Springer's of Christiana and Related Families", William Hamilton Hannum, Ohio Genealogical Quarterly, January 1944.


http://www.diginpast.se/ostkanten/swe/blekingeband/christian/springer/p3d000e70.html


And noted by John Springer:


It turns out this is from Queen Maria Eleonora who was paying for the Royal Orchestra. The Royal Orchestra was largely imported from St. Thomas Church, Leipzig in the early years of the 30 Years War and played at the wedding of Gustavus Adolphus [to Maria Eleonora of Brandenburg] in 1620. Christopher Springer was an oboeist in the Orchestra.  Another member from Leipzig was surname Gabriel who apparently died about this time.”


A reasonable conclusion is that Christopher was from the area of present day Germany that includes Leipzig, Brandenburg and Lamstedt, he was in the St. Thomas Church orchestra, and removed to Sweden in the early 1620s to be in the Swedish Royal Orchestra.


It might be possible, with additional DNA testing, to get more information on Christopher's origins. We are recommending FTDNA's 'Big Y' test.


One thing the Big Y might do is to decrease the TMRCA of Z30 or at least give us sub-markers that can be dated to more recent times.  Z30 TMRCA is currently about 1000BC+/-. This is not a very useful datum. Some groups testing Big Y at U106 are getting down to TMRCAs under 500 years. That would be seriously useful.


To date there are 7 YDNA descendents of Christopher Springer tested in this group.  One of these current participants will be chosen to receive a Big Y test.  Since this test is a bit much for one person to shoulder, we are asking for donations for this specific project. There are a LOT of descendents of Christopher Springer currently living, many of those in the USA. Donations do not need to be big; small amounts add up, and the current cost is $575. With as many trees on Ancestry that claim Christopher, we're hoping to reach our goal soon.


To make a donation for a Big Y test for the 'Christopher' group directly on the FTDNA site, use the following URL:


https://www.familytreedna.com/group-general-fund-contribution.aspx?g=Springer


(Or you can go to the FTDNA website, search for SPRINGER under projects, and find the link to make a donation on the SPRINGER projects 'Background' page. )


Either way, make sure to designate that your donation goes to the “Big Y test for the Christopher Group in the SPRINGER project”.


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In order to help clear up some of the confusion and misinformation for SPRINGERs in the USA that the SPRINGER "hoax"  and M. C. Springer's book have caused, we are including some articles written by several well-regarded SPRINGER researchers.  Please note that some of the following material was written prior to the SPRINGER DNA project results started to come in. 

Use your browser's 'back' button to return to the SPRINGER Y DNA Project if you click on any of the links below.

THE SPRINGER GENEALOGY: A CRITICALREVIEW
By Milton Rubincam
Originally published in The American Genealogist [TAG], Vol. 18, No. 2, October 1941, pp.  91-99.Used with the permission of the publisher (subscriptions to The American Genealogist are $40.00 a year, from TAG, P.O. Box 398, Demorest GA 30535-0398; the publisher is able to accept only checks).

The American Springers
By Cliff Radcliff
2004
Reprinted with permission of the family of Cliff Radcliff

The Springer family of Gloucester and Salem Co. N.J.
By Francis Fekel
Reprinted with permission by the author
An insight focusing mainly on the SPRINGERs of New Jersey, USA

One of the Springer families of Sweden
Springersläkten
By Christian Andersson, Karlskrona
Linked to with permission by the author
Mr. Andersson provides a proper accounting of what is known about Christopher Springer, c1592-1669, who lived in Sweden.


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LINKS Section - You'll probably need to 'page back' on your browser to return to this Y DNA project, as these links will take you to a different website.


The best place to start is FTDNA's FAQ section. 


Some general links:


DNA News Websites, a 'top ten' list from DNANews.org.   

ISOGG's Y-DNA Haplogroup Tree for 2011 (subject to change per information on new SNPs)

Whit Athey's Haplogroup predictor.

Robert Casey’s STR Frequency tool is here.

MeGee's Y-Utility is here

Ysearch is a very useful tool as anyone who has Y-DNA tested with any company can enter his results for comparison.

Diana Gale Matthiesen has an amazingly huge web site full of DNA- and genealogy- related information and links.  You can access her home page here, plan to spend some time exploring her site.  A good place to start is her 'DNA Hub' link located at the bottom of the Home Page.

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Links more specific to FTDNA's Family Finder test:


For those of you with Family Finder test results, here is an explanation on how our X Chromosomes are recombined.

ISOGG's "Identical By Descent"  (IBD vs IBS explanation).  This is from ISOGG's Wiki site, there is a lot of other good information there.

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Dienekes Pontikos reports on a new paper on Y Haplogroup T:

Hum Biol. 2011 Feb;83(1):39-53.

Increased Resolution of Y Chromosome Haplogroup T Defines Relationships among Populations of the Near East, Europe, and Africa.

Mendez FL, Karafet TM, Krahn T, Ostrer H, Soodyall H, Hammer MF