R1b1(xP297) DNA Project- Background



This R1b (xP297) project is designed for people who are R1b1 (that is, who are M343+ and/or P25+) but who are not R1b1a (that is, who are not P297+ or M73+ or M269+).

At FTDNA, this currently (as of 2012) means that your haplogroup should either predicted or confirmed to be R1b1, R1b1b, or R1b1c.

If you are not sure whether that description fits you, feel free to join. We'll review your DNA results and make a determination.


Origin and History of Haplogroup R1b: Haplogroup R1b originated in the Near East approximately 16,000 years ago.  Over the following 10,000 years, the haplogroup subdivided and expanded so that modern descendants are found on every continent.  Some sources refer to R1b as a "European" haplogroup, but this reference is out-dated and imprecise: many R1b men do have European ancestry (especially those in subclade R1b1a2) but many others do not.


Because this project conducts primary research, our terminology may not always agree with that used by other sources. The haplogroup tree and map below are used by the project, but  may not reflect the official tree currently in  use by  FTDNA.

R Tree

R Map

General Fund

Current balance: $156.76

Type Amount Date Donor Note KitNum Donation Type
Credit $50.00 1/27/2015 Morou BOUKARI     Individual
Credit $50.00 10/19/2014 Musa     Individual
Credit $50.00 12/17/2012 Phillip H. SAvage     Individual
Debit $38.50 8/6/2012     113500 Unknown
Debit $29.00 8/6/2012     166085 Unknown
Debit $29.00 1/4/2012     M7028 Unknown
Debit $38.50 1/4/2012     M6855 Unknown
Debit $79.00 12/12/2011     N34461 Unknown
Debit $79.00 12/12/2011     166085 Unknown
Debit $79.00 12/12/2011     113500 Unknown
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Project Stats

Statistic Type Count
Big Y 4
Combined GEDCOMs Uploaded 18
DISTINCT mtDNA Haplogroups 47
DISTINCT Y-DNA Confirmed Haplogroups 12
DISTINCT Y-DNA Predicted Haplogroups 0
Family Finder 39
Genographic 2.0 Transfers 15
Maternal Ancestor Information 77
mtDNA 52
mtDNA Full Sequence 24
mtDNA Plus 41
mtDNA Subgroups 0
Paternal Ancestor Information 114
Predicted Y-DNA Haplogroups 10
Total Members 160
Unpredicted Y-DNA Haplogroups 0
Unreturned Kits 7
Y-DNA Deep Clade (After 2008) 23
Y-DNA Deep Clade (Prior to 2008) 13
Y-DNA Subgroups 20
Y-DNA111 18
Y-DNA12 143
Y-DNA25 130
Y-DNA37 124
Y-DNA67 75