TROTT-DNA Surname Project - News



Our project was established in December 2005.  BJ McNamara was the original Project Administrator until she resigned due to health reasons in February of 2011.  She wrote "News" descriptions relating to the first eight participants.  These descriptions provide the participants' purposes for testing, as well as some description of the rest results.  These descriptions have been reorganized along haplogroup groupings (I1a, R1a1a and R1b1a2) in order to make it easier for readers to do genealogical research, but the basic information compiled by BJ has been preserved.  Note that BJ listed the participants by DNA Kit numbers and often began by listing the participant's earliest known ancestor or location.  Where the participants agreed to be named, she did so. 


 

Haplogroup I1 (Group 1 Matched).


            #50,249 (Haplogroup I1): TROTTs in Essex and Kent, England. This is the line of Project Member John Trott of Plymouth, England, our initial Trott participant in the U.K. He has done a great deal of traditional genealogical research.  He is finding that DNA testing is providing answers to some of the questions that are raised by traditional research and that it is raising new questions.  His traditional research has determined that Trotts lived in Essex in the 14th Century, Hertfordshire in the 16th Century, London in the 16th Century, Cambridge in the 17th Century, Kent in the 18th Century and Durham in the 19th Century.  In addition, Trotts were in the US, Canada, Hong Kong, Australia and New Zealand in the 19th Century.

He advised that the earliest North West Essex Trott reference found to-date is the 1327 Lay Subsidy entry of Willelmo Trot of Manewedene (Manuden) near Saffron Walden. There is further extensive evidence of Trotts in and around Saffron Walden/North West Essex throughout the 14th/15th/16th/17th/18th and 19th centuries, with proven line back to the mid-1500's. During the early 1700s a Michael Trott moved to Deal in Kent, and an extensive Trott family line developed through to the present time (many of whom drowned heroically saving lives off the Kent Coast). It is believed that Trotts from the same line in North West Essex and Kent may have spread all over the UK and throughout the world.


#51,601 (Haplogroup I1): TROTT. This is the line of late Project Member John Edmund Trott who lived in Norfolk, East Anglia, UK.  John is the 4th cousin twice removed of the above John Trott (#50,249). They match on 37 DNA markers, confirming the relationship that they believed they knew by traditional genealogical methods. John Edmund Trott has been advised that an analysis of his DNA and haplgroup suggests that around 1000 years ago his ancestors likely came from north Germany, indicating a likely Anglo Saxon origin. John has reconstructed his Trott ancestry back to the 16th Century and is interested in confirmation of relationships with others. Initially, John believed that he knew that he and John of Plymouth were related as “Deal” Trotts. Since then, they have pushed the “Deal” line back into Essex (at Quendon) and have gone back to observe that Trotts spread out to include all the descendants of the original Trotts at Saffron Walden in Essex. The tree of their group includes many hundreds of names. They have also done further research into earlier Trotts in the same area and found them in the 1327 Lay Subsidy for Essex in nearby villages.

 John's research has shown that an adjacent Trott clan is the “Woodbridge” Trotts who are not believed to be related to the “Deal” Trotts.  It would be helpful to have members of this clan to do DNA testing to help answer questions.  He also reports that possibly some Trotts may descend from a Trott who arrived in England from Germany via an East Coast port circa 1300 in connection with the Hanseatic League, and he speculates that this line might be the forerunner of other Trotts.  He reports that the West Country Trotts seem to have arisen in Somerset and gradually spread over Devon and South Wales.  He speculates that the West Country Trotts could have also come from the same source as there were numerous ports in the West Country as early as the 12th Century.

Speculation on the origin of the various branches of Trotts in the UK may eventually be explained by additional DNA results. Thus far, only two men named Trott from the UK are project members, and they are both in the same haplogroup.  Additionally, testing of persons in other countries around the world may help answer questions concerning the spread of Trotts from Europe to other areas of the world.


#225,252 (Haplogroup I1): JAMES F. TROTT. This project member traces his ancestry to James F. (for Fullerton?) Trott, who was born in 1802 in Woolwich, Lincoln County, Maine, and whose father was reputed to be a Trott. His mother was Jeanette or Jennet Fullerton, who was was born in Woolwich in 1776. The results appear to confirm that James F. Trott’s father was indeed a Trott, although whether this will help to identify him remains to be seen. There have been Trotts in New England since 1640.

 

 

Haplogroup R1a1a (Group 2 Matched)


#48,615 (Haplogroup R1a1a): THOMAS TROTT of Anne Arundel County, Maryland is believed to be the earliest male ancestor of this line currently consisting of five members, but direct genealogical records are missing. This is the line of member Billy Trott of Raleigh, North Carolina, USA.  Thus far, the five men in this line have clearly matched following DNA testing. Thomas Trott lived in Anne Arundel/Calvert County, Maryland in the mid 1600s. There is a "Trott's Branch" located about 30 miles south of Annapolis, Maryland where he evidently lived. Family tradition and circumstantial evidence point to the likelihood that this line of Trotts originated in the British Isles, but no specific location is known.  It is hoped that DNA testing of more people in the British Isles will someday provide additional information.

Some descendants of this line apparently remained in Maryland and others moved elsewhere as the United States grew.  Two men from Maryland, James Trott and Henry Trott, are known to have migrated to Rowan County, North Carolina by about 1790.  As the frontier expanded, many descendants of these North Carolina Trotts migrated across the country. 

In addition to this project participant in the R1a1a group, four additional participants are listed below. One is Tom Trott who lives in Maryland.  Another participant lives in Ohio.  Another is William Colbert (Bill) Trott in Texas.  One brother of Bill and Billy's Trott ancestor left North Carolina., became a missionary to the Cherokee Nation in Georgia, and married the daughter of the tribal chief.  Bill Fritz, who is one of our participants discussed below, is the descendant of that man.


#48,700 (Haplogroup R1a1a): HENRY TROTT is the oldest known ancestor based on good genealogical records.  He was born in Maryland in the mid-1700s and moved to Rowan County, North Carolina with another Trott named James Trott.  This is the line of Project Member William “Bill” Colbert Trott of Pasadena, Texas.  He and Billy Trott of North Carolina (#48,615) believed that they had determined they are cousins through traditional genealogical research, and DNA testing confirmed this relationship. Bill is very active genealogist and has good paper resources as far back as Henry Trott who is the first ancestor known with certainty.  Henry was possibly the descendant of a Thomas Trott in Anne Arundel County, as mentioned above, but the link is not certain.  Bill hopes that DNA testing results plus additional genealogical paperwork will provide a definitive answer to the relationship between the Henry Trott who moved to North Carolina from Maryland and the Thomas Trott who lived in Maryland about 100 years before.  Also, he is hoping to determine a definitive answer as to the relationship between the Henry Trott who moved to North Carolina and the James Trott who moved nearby at the same time.


#57,803 (Haplogroup R1a1a): FRANCIS TROTT b. c1808 Maryland. Census records show that Francis was born in Maryland, but his parents are unknown. He migrated to Ohio and established a homestead in Guernsey Co. Ohio with his wife Mariah and four children as shown in the 1840 census. The 1850 Guernsey Co. census shows Francis and Mariah with nine children: Ofelier A., James W., Samuel F., Michael, Mary M., Thomas H., Catharine, and John W. There is also a young child, Thomas H. Trott, age 12, living with them who was born in Maryland.  Francis and Mariah’s son Samuel F. Trott was born 1838 in Ohio. By 1880, Samuel F. Trott has married and is living in Nobel Co., Ohio with his wife, Mary E., and their six children: Gassaway, Emma R., Genetta, Samuel F., Richard B., and Jensey A. Samuel and Mary’s son, Samuel F. Trott (named for his father) was born Sep 1868 in Ohio. Samuel F. Trott (b. 1868) married Sarah/Sadie about 1889 and in 1900 was living in Muskingum County, Ohio with their four children: Velma, Alta, Henry and Howard. A descendant of this family is participating in the DNA project to determine lineage.  Based on a 12 marker test, he exactly matches four other persons who have tested.  Testing more markers or testing by an additional Ohio Trott might provide additional clues as to how closely the Ohio Trott family is related to the four other persons who are in haplogroup R1a1.


#50,297 (Haplogroup R1a1a): THOMAS “HENRY” TROTT b. c1820 in Baltimore, Maryland. This is the line of Project Member Thomas “Tom” B. Trott, Jr. of Maryland. He believes based on traditional genealogical research that his ancestors lived in Anne Arundel County, Maryland.  He is only certain back to Thomas Henry Trott, but he hopes to be able to go back further some day.  His DNA results, based on 37 markers, confirm that his line is closely connected to members #48615, #48,700, and #113,521. He matches them on 36 of 37 markers. These men very likely all descend from the same ancestor in Maryland.  Testing additional markers or testing a known Trott relative of this participant may provide additional information.  Also, testing by additional persons in the UK or elsewhere in Europe will, hopefully, tell these five R1a1a testers where their ancestors lived hundreds of years ago before coming to America.


            #113,521 (Haplogroup R1a1a): FRITZ. This Project Member's DNA results show that he is another in the Maryland Trott group.  He is Bill Fritz of New Jersey.  This connection provides what is thus far our most interesting family history.  Bill Fritz descends from the same family of Marylanders who moved to North Carolina.  One of them was JAMES JENKINS TROTT, who was born in North Carolina and became a Methodist missionary to the Cherokee nation in Georgia.  James Jenkins Trott was the brother of ancestors of Billy Trott and Bill Trott listed above.  James Jenkins Trott was involved in a case decided by the United States Supreme Court that held that the state of Georgia had no jurisdiction over the reservation.  He married a Cherokee woman and their descendants were forced to go on the infamous "Trail of Tears" to Oklahoma.  Later descendants changed their last name to Fritz and moved to the Dakotas.  Various descendants are listed on various Indian rolls in Oklahoma, and any Trotts tracing their heritage back to Georgia and Oklahoma may be interested in the DNA results on this line.  Bill Fritz's 67 marker DNA test closely matches four others in our project.  He matches Billy and Bill Trott on 66 of 67 markers, and he matches Tom Trott on 36 of 37 markers.  They all hope to meet each other some day.


        #288766 (Haplogroup R1a1): William TROTT. This project member traces his ancestry to a family who lived in London in the early 19th century. William Trott married Sarah Wallis on 13 November 1817 at St Dunstan Stepney, Middlesex. William and Sarah both lived in Mile End Old Town. In 1841 they were living with their family in Southwark, Surrey. William was a bricklayer aged 55, so was born around 1781 to 1786, and was not born in Surrey. Otherwise we have no evidence of where he was born, although it was presumably in England.

 

 

Haplogroup R1b1a2 (Group 3 Yorkshire).


#129,007 (Haplogroup R1b1a2): TROTT. 


#164,945 (Haplogroup R1b1a2a1a1a8): TROTT.


#107,575 (Haplogroup R1b1a2): TROTT.


#259,992 (Haplogroup R1b1a2): TROTT.


These four project members are clearly related. They all match each other quite closely, though each has a mutation which the others do not have.

            #107,575 and #164,945 are both of Bermudian descent. The Bermuda Trott family is descended from Samuel Trott, who was born in London in 1646 and is believed to have migrated from the UK to Bermuda in 1669. He died in Bermuda in 1699 and today his descendants are to be found all over the world, including the UK, Canada, the USA, and Australia.
             Samuel Trott’s ancestry can be traced to John Trott, a draper who died in London in 1551. John Trott was born around 1507/8 and there is some evidence that his family originated in Yorkshire, but this has not yet been proved.
             #129,007 has no connections with Bermuda. His family migrated from the UK to New Zealand in 1901. His ancestry can be traced to Henry Trott, a master mariner, and his wife Elizabeth who baptised a son, Henry John, in 1806 in Kingston upon Hull (also known as Hull), in the East Riding of Yorkshire. Henry Trott may have originated in Scarborough, about 60 miles up the coast from Hull, in the North Riding of Yorkshire, but no firm evidence of this has so far emerged.

#259,992 is from Yorkshire and can trace his ancestry to Henry Trott, a mariner, who married Frances Eglestone in 1781 in Scarborough. Henry was probably baptised in 1744 in Scarborough, the son of William and Jane Trott.


It is unlikely that paper records will be able to prove that #129,007 and #259,992 are related to #107,575 and #164,945 but the DNA results mean that John Trott (d 1551) almost certainly originated in Yorkshire, and that his ancestors were related to the ancestors of the other two some time before the mid 16th century. It also seems reasonable to use the results as proof that all of these lines originated in the Scarborough area.

We now have the results of a Deep Clade Test on #164,945. These results apply to all four of the above. Family Tree DNA infers a haplogroup from the standard test and all three were originally given the haplogroup of R1b1a2. The Deep Clade Test now shows that they belong to the haplogroup R1b1a2a1a1a8, also known as R-L257. R-L257 refers to the Single Nucleotide Polymorphism (SNP) which characterises this halpogroup. This appears to be relatively rare, but was only discovered in early 2010, so it is possible that it will become more common as more people are tested for it.



Haplogroup R1b1a2 (Group 4 Devon).


Both members of this group both trace their ancestry to Devon, 300,191 to Petrockstow in North Devon and N22,826 to Seaton and Beer in South Devon, almost fifty miles away. They differ on three markers.

        #300,191 (Haplogroup R1b1a2): HENRY TROTT. This project member traces his ancestry to Henry and Eulalia Trott, whose son John was born in Petrockstow, a few miles from Great Torrington, North Devon in 1732. John married Mary Hammett in 1753. The family continued to live in this area, in Petrockstowe, or the adjacent parishes of Meeth, Buckland Filleigh, and Sheepwash, until William Henry Burnett Trott (b 1854) moved to South Wales in the late 19th century.


#N22,826 (Haplogroup R1b1a2):  JAMES TROTT. This project member traces his ancestry to James Trott, born 1788 Seaton and Beer, Devon. James married Elizabeth (Betsy) Stroud in 1812 at Black Torrington, Devon. Their son John, born in 1813 at Black Torrington, migrated to Maine, USA in 1833, and then to Ontario, Canada. 




Haplogroup R1b1a2 (Group 5 Unmatched).


#48,454 (Haplogroup R1b1a2): JOSEPH TROTT. This is the line of Tommy Trott of Mobile, Alabama who is related to our first Administrator, BJ McNamara.  Joseph Trott is the earliest known ancestor in this line.  He married Sarah, and their children included Richard Trott b. 7 Nov 1779, christened 28 Nov 1779, Saint Leonard, Shoreditch, London, England, died 22 Apr 1848 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England. Richard married Mary Batcher (1784-1869) on 18 Jan 1827 in Lewisham, Kent, England. Richard and Mary had three known children: Richard Trott b. Dec. 1827 Deptford, Kent, christened 18 Jan 1828, Saint Nicholas, Deptford; Mary Trott b. 1829 England; and William Henry Trott b. 3 Mar 1831 Rotherhithe, Surrey, christened 23 Mar 1831, Saint Mary, Rotherhithe. This family was a seafaring one, as the elder Richard Trott was a Waterman – and sons Richard and William are listed as Seamen on the 1851 Rotherhithe census. Richard Trott b. 1827 was a Sea Captain who arrived in Mobile County, Alabama in 1860. Richard married Martha Manson on 23 Jun 1857 in Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London; she is the daughter of John Jasper Manson and Elizabeth Emms. Richard and Martha had four known children: Martha Mary Anne Trott b. 12 Apr 1858 England; Richard William Lee Trott b. 24 Sep 1859 England; Dominick/Dominique “Dom” Jasper Trott b. 6 Dec 1861 Alabama; Philip F. Trott b. 1867 Alabama. This project member has also joined the Trout-DNA Surname Project to allow his DNA results to be compared to Trouts who may have English roots.  We are hoping that as more people test, there will be additional matches to this Trott line.


#123771 and #288,070 (Haplogroup R1b1a2): SAMUEL TROTT. These two project members are closely related, and can trace their ancestry to Josiah Trott, born in 1779 in Castine, Maine, USA, son of Samuel Trott. This family is said to be descended from Simon Trott, who lived at Cape Porpoise, Maine in the 17th century, but proof of this is lacking.


#206,444 (Haplogroup R1b1a2): JAMES WALDEN TROTT. This project member traces his ancestry to James Walden Trott who was born in 1811 at Lambrook, in the parish of Kingsbury Epsicopi, Somerset. He may have been the son of Robert Trott and Ann Walden, who were married in Kingsbury Episcopi on 28 May 1809, but so far no baptism has been found to prove this. James’s son, Robert Carter Trott, migrated to Canada, probably in the 1870s.


#285,125 (Haplogroup R1b1a2): HENRY TROTT. This project member is descended from Edward King Trott, who was was born in 1838 in Taunton, Somerset, a son of Henry Trott, who married Sarah Lane on 8 June 1835 in the adjacent parish of Wilton. Henry died in Taunton on 13 December 1847, aged 52, giving an approximate birth date of 1794 or 1795. Henry and Sarah named their other son, born in 1836 in Taunton, Mark King Trott, and it is possible that Henry was the son of Robert Trott and Sarah King, who married on 18 June 1787 at Bishops Hull, also adjacent to Taunton, but no baptism for Henry has yet been found to confirm this theory. Edward King Trott emigrated to New Zealand before 1861 and his descendants still live there.


#286,367 (Haplogroup R1b1a2): ISAAC TROTT. This project member traces his ancestry to Isaac Trott who married Mary Trott on 13 July 1794 at Martock, Somerset. Their son Henry, who was born in 1804 at Martock, married Ann Munday in 1833 at nearby Somerton. The family continued to live in the same area until the member's grandfather, Francis George Trott, moved to Glamorgan, South Wales before 1896, and his son later moved to London.



Haplogroup E1b1b1 (Group 6).


#262445 (Haplogoup E1b1b1): WILLIAM TROTT. Stuart Trott traces his ancestry to William Trott, born in 1730 in Elworthy, Somerset, a son of Francis and Mary Trott. William married Mary Ammory in 1769 and the family continued to live in the Elworthy area until the 1850s, when Stuart's gt gt grandfather, John Trott, born 1803, left Somerset and moved to Wallasey, Cheshire with his family. It is possible that Francis was baptised in 1694 at Crowcombe (only a few miles from Elworthy), a son of John and Joan Trott, but this has not yet been proved.



Ungrouped


#156,908 (Haplogroup R1b1a2): TROTT.


# 49,074 (Haplogroup R1b1a2): BLAKE.


# 15,899 (Haplogroup R1b1a2): RAY.


#E-5285 (Haplogroup I): TRABER.



NOTE:  This News section refers to those people who have tested and have placed their DNA test results onto our project site.  It is clear that some people have paid for tests and not returned their test kits. If you are a Trott and have a test kit, you are welcome to return this at any time.


This page was last updated on September 22, 2013.