STEWART STUART (royal) Y DNA Project - Background
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Welcome to FTDNA's exclusive project for y-DNA tested descendants of the first
HIGH STEWARD of SCOTLAND
We thank Family Tree DNA's President and CEO Bennett Greenspan for creating this project for the patrilineal descendants of the first High Steward of Scotland on October 29, 2010. His video about DNA testing and genetic genealogy is at https://youtu.be/wVmTYXVQmzg.
You may JOIN THIS PROJECT no matter what your surname is. Family Tree DNA imposes NO LIMIT to the number of projects that one may join. Ask your project administrators for advice in order to avoid ordering a useless test and requesting a refund.
These videos explain why:
- Genetic genealogists prefer Family Tree DNA (it has the largest Y-DNA database in the world).
- Beginners may want to have their DNA tested.
The more you learn about your ancestry via DNA tests the better you will be able to answer your children's questions (DNA never lies). According to research at Emory University:
- Children who know more about their family history can turn out to be more emotionally resilient than children who don’t.
- By anchoring oneself in family history, one has a sense of place and security that may facilitate self-confidence and self-competence.
A Y-DNA test may help a man to identify his patrilineal ancestors all the way back to the Fertile Crescent, and to the last common ancestor (y-LCA) of all of the living races of mankind (estimated to have lived 237 to 581 thousand years ago with 95% confidence). See Table 3 in row # 4 near the bottom of this page.
Don't wait until your last male relatives who are willing to have their DNA tested die (the closer to death, the less willing some become). No one but you is likely to pay for your relatives' DNA tests.
Which Test Should You Order?
You can save hundreds of dollars by ordering ONLY Big Y and other SNP tests.
More than one member of our family is now included in about half of the branches that have been discovered via Big Y tests. Some of them (e.g., branches S781 and Y14198) now include aristocrats who have impeccable lineages.
In other words, there is about a 50% probability that descendants of the first High Steward of Scotland will be assigned to a branch that has already been discovered if they order a Big Y test during FTDNA's upcoming holiday sales (possibly for not much more than the full cost of a Y-DNA111 test).
Unfortunately, FTDNA does not allow one to order Big Y and other SNP tests unless one has already purchased a $59.00 Y-DNA12 or other STR (Short Tandem Repeat) test, e.g., by scrolling down at this link or by telephoning FTDNA at 713-868-1438 Monday - Thursday 9 am to 4:30 pm CST and Friday 9 am to noon).
Your STR results will be displayed next to your kit number in the "Ungrouped" category at the bottom of the "Y-DNA Results" web page at http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Stuart/default.aspx?section=ycolorized initially, and be assigned to a different category if you test positive for SNP S310 (a.k.a. R-L746) or at a high enough STR level to prove that you are a patrilineal descendant of the first High Steward of Scotland.
Tests for SNP S310 are the cheapest and most reliable way for men to prove with 100% certainty whether or not they are patrilineal descendants of the first High Steward of Scotland.
Those who test positive for SNP S310 can determine to which L746 branch (e.g., S781 or Y14198) of this family they belong via a Big Y test. All of the issue of one of your great-great-great-great-grandmothers descend from Sir John Stewart of Bonkyll if one of her patrilineal cousins tests positive for S781.
Alex Williamson's web page at http://www.ytree.net/DisplayTree.php?blockID=7 and the L746 phylogenetic trees that Administrators Larry and Desideriu maintain below are based on their analysis of Big Y test results, and show SNPs that distinguish the branches to which some members of this Stewart family belong.
The results of the SNP tests that are sold to first time customers by other companies are not displayed at http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Stuart/default.aspx?section=ysnp unless you add them as a suffix to your surname, e.g., Stewart (781+), or Stewart (781-).
SNP vs. STR Tests
According to the toggled answer to a question at https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/y-dna-testing/big-y/: "Unlike Geno 2.0 and related technologies, Big Y is able to detect new branch markers that are unique to your paternal lineage, surname, or even you". Y-DNA111 test results (and even the Y-DNA495 STR markers that are included free of charge in the results of Big Y tests) rarely do so, and never as reliably!
STR marker values are too unstable (mutate back and forth too frequently) to provide much useful information about the branches to which very distantly related cousins belong (click here for more details and actual proof).
Patrilineal cousins who are related to each other closely enough to trace their kinship genealogically without the help of a DNA test usually have almost identical STR test results. This project's STR results pages allow you to compare your STR results to those of each L746+ Big Y tester.
You can order tests for a Big Y tester's unique SNPs (i.e., novel variants) if you think that you and he belong to the same branch, e.g., because you and he have some of the same off-modal STR marker values. At least one DNA testing company will be willing to create a test for any newly discovered SNP.
How May We Benefit From Our SNP Test Results?
This ~6 minute VIDEO explains how experts can use the results of Big Y and other Next Generation Sequencing (NGS) tests to scientifically prove exactly how all of the descendants of the first High Steward of Scotland are related to each other.
Read column # 7 below about what to do after your Big Y test results are delivered.
How To Order Individual SNP Tests From FTDNA
If you want to order an individual SNP test, login to your MyFTDNA account and:
- Click ORDER AN UPGRADE in the upper right corner.
- Click ORDER AN ADVANCED TEST, select SNP from the Test Type menu and type the name of the SNP, e.g., S781.
- Click FIND, ADD, ORDER NOW, etc.
One may be able to find a Stewart cousin via genealogical research or via an autosomal test (e.g., Family Finder) of one's own DNA. Identifying the common ancestor of distantly related cousins via shared autosomal DNA segments can be frustrating. Cousins may or may not inherit enough of the same DNA to show that they have a common ancestor.
- A child randomly receives half of his autosomal DNA from his mother and half from his father.
- First Cousins may inherit a quarter of their DNA from one of their common grandparents.
- Second Cousins may inherit an eighth of their DNA from their common great-Gparents.
- Third Cousins may inherit a sixteenth of their DNA from their common ggGparents.
- Fourth Cousins may inherit a 32nd of their DNA from their common gggGparents.
- Fifth Cousins may inherit a 64th of their DNA from their common ggggGparents.
- Sixth Cousins may inherit 128th of their DNA from their common gggggGparents - segments of DNA become so small at this level and beyond that accurate comparisons may not be possible.
For security reasons we want to make sure that only members of this family and their closest DF41 cousins have access to this project. Administrators may allow members who have not had Y-DNA tests to remain in this project if they post genealogical evidence that they qualify. The Y-DNA test results of most of its members prove that they do. Please remove yourself from this project if you do not, e.g., if:
- The majority of your matches at the Y-37 level or higher do not have a version of the surname Stewart.
- The name of your haplogroup does not begin with the letter "R-".
- At the Y-DNA67 level, over nine of your STR marker values differ from 181994's at the bottom of the "Y-DNA Results" web page.
- Your completed Y-DNA37 or higher test results remain in the "Ungrouped" category for more than one week.
- You test negative for SNP S310 (a.k.a. R-L746).
Those who are mistakenly removed from this project may contact an administrator.
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Column # 2
Our Sir John Stewart, Sheriff of Bute Branch (Y14198)
Members of this project's
A1e (S781-) group belong to the Stewart-Bute branch of our family according to the results of their Big Y tests (all of them descend from Sir John Stewart, sheriff of Bute, and test positive for SNP Y14198)! FTDNA created a project that is exclusively for them at https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Stewart-Bute so that those who are interested can learn more about their goals, FREE DNA TEST offers, etc.
Our Sir John Stewart of Bonkyll Branch (S781)
About 50 members of this project had been tested by FTDNA or one of its competitors for SNP S781 (R1b1a2a1a2c1i1a1) by Feb/4/2015. About 40% tested positive and about a third added their test results to their surnames as a suffix in order to facilitate subgrouping, etc.
- The Duke of Buccleuch and everyone else who tests positive for SNP S781 descends from Sir John Stewart of Bonkyll (died 22 July 1298 at the Battle of Falkirk). FTDNA's project for Sir John's patrilineal descendants is at https://www.familytreedna.com/public/R-S781. Some of their Big Y test results are posted in the S781 Phylogenetic Tree below and at http://www.s781.org/allsnps.html. All or part of Sir John's patrilineal descendants via the Lennox line (e.g. King James I of England) test positive for both S781 and S768. Sir John's patrilineal descendants via other lines test S781+ and S768-.
- ScotlandsDNA.com claims that: "About 20% of all men who carry the famous surname Stewart share Sir John’s lineage while 30% are descended from Sir John’s brother, James Stewart, the 5th High Steward of Scotland (died 16 July 1309)." The claim that about 50% of the Stewarts in Scotland are patrilineal descendants of the first High Steward of Scotland may not be true. Less than 25% of the Stewarts in FTDNA's database (and the Stewarts in the UK for whose tests the General Fund of this project paid) do.
James' son Walter fought at Bannockburn and helped separatist William Wallace to win Scotland's independence. Walter married the daughter of Robert Bruce I (died on 7 June 1329). Their son became Robert II, the first Stewart king.
Earl Castle Stewart and Big Y tester Paul John Thompson (239315, S781-) were traced back more than 20 generations to the aforesaid Walter according to the web page at http://www.visitscotland.org/media_centre/dna_battle_lines_drawn.aspx. Click here to see the Y-DNA111 test results of Paul and his perfect Y-DNA111 match Robertson (12471).
According to Wikipedia, "When the Scottish revolt against Edward I broke out in July 1297, James Stewart the 5th High Steward of Scotland led into rebellion a further group of disaffected Scots, including: Robert Wishart, Bishop of Glasgow, MacDuff, the son of the earl of Fife, and the young Robert the Bruce. The future king was now twenty-two, and in joining the rebels he seems to have been acting independently of his father, who took no part in the rebellion and appears to have abandoned Annandale once more for the safety of Carlisle. It appears that Robert Bruce had fallen under the influence of his grandfather’s friends, Wishart and Stewart, who had inspired him to patriotic resistance. With the outbreak of the revolt, Robert left Carlisle and made his way to Annandale, where he called together the knights of his ancestral lands and, according to the English chronicler Walter of Guisborough, addressed them thus: 'No man holds his flesh and blood in hatred, and I am no exception. I must join my own people and the nation in whom I was born'." Would Scots heed his call today?
A translation of the Latin on the plaque above: "My Son, Freedom is best, I tell thee true, of all things to be won. Then never live within the Bond of Slavery." "Bas Agus Buaidh" (Death and Victory). Some Celts think that their only nation is people of their own race and ancestry, that to rule or be ruled by anyone else is imperialism and slavery, and that a member of another nation is a foreigner regardless of where he was born and what government issued his passport. They would rather govern themselves than to be ruled by the Houses of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha and Hanover, by the U.S., and by any regime whose policy is to obliterate all racial and national identities except their own, e.g., via the Anglo-Saxon's American and "British" empires and religions.
How May We Help Each Other?
If you want to help and be helped, please join these projects:
- STUART project (if you descend from the first High Steward of Scotland).
- R-S781 project (if you descend from Sir John Stewart of Bonkyll).
- Stewart-Bute project (if you descend from Sir John Stewart, Sheriff of Bute).
- R-DF41 project (L746 is downstream of Haplogroup DF41).
The more members of your branch order Big Y and other SNP tests the more likely we will be able to create pedigrees that show exactly how all of them are related to each other. Don't expect anyone but a genealogist to pay for his own tests and to contribute a sample of his DNA (especially to a stranger), no matter how much you need it.
Diana Gale Matthiesen stated: "Genealogy is like a jigsaw puzzle... If everyone hides their piece of the puzzle, none of us will get anywhere ... there are some serious practical considerations relevant to DNA projects that make lineage-sharing imperative." The fewer make their test results and the name, etc. of their earliest genealogically traced patrilineal ancestor private, the sooner we may determine exactly how all of us are related to each other.
Some of the goals of FTDNA's Royal Stewart project are to:
- Recruit as many patrilineal descendants of the High Stewards of Scotland as possible, no matter what their surnames and geographic locations may be.
- Help them to have their DNA tested for genealogical purposes by providing information and financial assistance to those who request it (please help us to recruit more European volunteers for FREE DNA TESTS).
- Use their test results and pedigrees to determine exactly how they are related to each other and to which branch (sept or stirpes) of this GENS they belong.
Compare our DF13 Clan Colla cousins' FTDNA project administrators' achievements and Big Y test results to this family's if you want to see what could be better.
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YFULL's 7/4/2015 phylogenetic tree below is at http://www.yfull.com/tree/R-L744 (login required). It shows:
- The names of the SNPs via which some branches of the descendants of the first High Steward of Scotland can be identified.
- Estimates of how long ago:
- Those branch mutations occurred.
- The common ancestor of some branches of this family lived.
Age estimation algorithm presented in article Defining a New Rate Constant for Y-Chromosome SNPs based on Full Sequencing Data by Adamov, Guryanov, Korzhavin, Tagankin, Urasin (2015).
- R-L744 S802 * A475 * S797... 25 SNPs formed 3900 ybp, TMRCA 650 ybp
- id:YF01975 (FTDNA 5987)
- id:YF02025 (FTDNA 321497)
- id:YF02086 (FTDNA 256138) GBR [GB-DBY]
- id:YF02447 (FTDNA ?)
- id:YF03554 (FTDNA 251006) SCT
- id:YF03673 (FTDNA 320811) SCT new
- id:YF04357 (FTDNA 305358) new
- R-Y14197 Y14197 * Y14198 formed 650 ybp, TMRCA 300 ybp
- id:YF02294 (FTDNA 367892 ?) SCT
- id:YF03214 (FTDNA 337093)
- R-Y4954 Z17581/Y4954 formed 650 ybp, TMRCA 650 ybp
- R-Y15896 Y15896 formed 650 ybp, TMRCA 650 ybp
- id:YF01546 (FTDNA 239315) GBR
- id:YF03552 (FTDNA ?)
- R-S781 S781 formed 650 ybp, TMRCA 600 ybp
- id:YF02184 (FTDNA 251918)
- id:YF02313 (FTDNA 128499)
- id:YF02381 (FTDNA 143035) GBR [GB-ANT]
- id:YF02406 (FTDNA 235915)
- id:YF02561 (FTDNA 49412)
- id:YF02682 (FTDNA 115205)
- id:YF02955 (FTDNA 248425)
- id:YF03473 (FTDNA 183344)
- R-A306 A307 * A308 * A306... 1 SNPs formed 600 ybp, TMRCA 200 ybp
- id:YF01691 (FTDNA E16164)
- id:YF03362 (FTDNA E15052)
- R-Y11635 A889/Y11635 formed 600 ybp, TMRCA 300 ybp
- id:YF02080 (FTDNA 315522)
- id:YF02698 (FTDNA 349908)
- A922 formed 600 ybp, TMRCA 300 ybp
- id:YF02972 (FTDNA 272860)
- R-Y14048 Y14048 * A921/Y14230 formed 300 ybp, TMRCA 125 ybp
- id:YF02179 (FTDNA 187778)
- id:YF03242 (FTDNA 329057)
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Our Phylogenetic Tree's Foundation Is Under Construction
QUESTION: "Isn't it strange that none of the testers have any SNPs in common? I would have thought some type of pattern would have emerged by now."
ANSWER: "Most of it was planned that way.
A few months ago we developed a strategy to try to get as many branches identified through BigY as we could to develop a framework. Most of the kits that have tested so far were targeted under that strategy which, if successful, would result in one kit per branch. We still have a few of the targeted kits pending which may identify yet more branches.
But, now that we have a relatively comprehensive framework, additional tests that were not in our targeted set should start the pairing process.
Note: About half of our current NGS Testers have already been coupled with members of their own branch of our R-L746 Gens according to Graph # 1 below. Larry's June, 2014 recommendations for Big Y tests were based on genetic distance (shared off-modal branch marker values and SNPs indicate kinship more reliably).
An Analysis of the Big Y Results of some R-S781 Testers
We thank FTDNA's brilliant and hard working Stuart project administrator Desideriu for his "S781 Phylogenetic Tree" below and for his Analysis of the Big Y Test Results of ALL descendants of the first High Steward of Scotland. The lastest versions of his working drafts are at:
If you want your Big Y results to be added to Desideriu's tables:
- Download and store your .bam files on Google Drive (see the instructions near the bottom of this web page).
- Send the link needed to access them to Desideriu.
- Order a book in French (profits are donated to the General Funds of FTDNA's Stewart projects as needed) about the well-documented and exciting military, etc. history of Desideriu's ancestors in Corsica, etc.
- Click here to download a free .pdf version thereof.
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The left column of Administrator Larry's Graph # 1 below shows exactly how some descendants of the first High Steward of Scotland are related to each other.
All of them belong to the R1b1a2a1a2c1i1a branch of an ISOGG tree that includes all of the descendants of the y-LCA of every living race.
Click on the DF41 phylogenetic tree below if you want to see only the Stewart (S310/R-L746) part of it.
Column # 7 (row # 3)
What a Big Y tester can do in order to benefit from his Big Y results after FTDNA delivers them:
We are fortunate that NGS expert Larry Walker analyzes the Big Y test results of descendants of the first High Steward of Scotland, finds novel variants (SNP mutations) via which their branches can be identified, and lists them in Graph # 1 above so that those who did not order an NGS test can prove to which branches they belong (and thereby facilitate their genealogical research) via à la carte SNP tests that cost between $15 and $40.
FTDNA's Big Y Novel Variants report and VCF file only show the markers that meet FTDNA's quality threshold. This means that we cannot assume that any potential SNP is negative if it is shown as “rejected”, or if it is not shown on the Novel Variants report in the VCF file.
Yfull will help us to obtain full utility from your Big Y test by analysing and permanently storing your results for $49 if you:
- Telephone FTDNA at (713) 868-1438 or email Helpdesk@FTDNA.com and request that a DOWNLOAD.BAM FILE button be added to your Big Y Results web page as soon as possible.
- Login to your FTDNA account a few days later (if FTDNA says two days or months it may take five).
- Click on the “BigY Results” button near the bottom of the page.
- Click on the blue “Download Raw Data” button (not the “Export CSV" button).
- A pop-up should appear. Click on the green “Download BAM” button (NOT the “Download VCF” button). Contact the FTDNA help desk and ask for one if you do not see one. A Chrome browser user reported that it took about ten minutes to download a ~750 MB file named "7948.bam.zip" and about an hour to upload it to YFull. More info about the BAM specification is at http://samtools.github.io/hts-specs/SAMv1.pdf.
- Temporarily save your .BAM file on your Desktop or in a directory that you can remember.
- Click the “Order Now” button near the bottom of the web page at http://www.yfull.com/. Some people confuse YFULL with a different business named Full Genomes Corporation (FGC) that markets a product frequently referred to as ‘Full Y’.
- Fill out the form. For “Source of raw data”, select “Upload .BAM file from my computer” (the first option). Click on the temporary link that Yfull immediately emails to you, add your .bam file to the upload queue and click the START button.
- Solve the anti-spam puzzle and click the “Order Now” button.
- You may delete FTDNA's .zip file from your computer after YFull emails your YFull ID and temporary password to you, or store it on Google Drive in case you need it later.
- YFull will bill you $49 after it completes its interpretation of your Y-Chr Sequence about three weeks later. You may then join Yfull's "R-S781, R-DF41" and "R-L21" Groups so that your YFull group administrators can see your raw data (ChrY positions, "private" variants, known SNPs, STRs, etc.).
Note: This will give direct access to your YFull analysis to administrators of FTDNA's exclusive projects for descendants of the first High Steward of Scotland.
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Column # 8.
Administrator Larry's Recommenations
From: A Big Y Tester
Dear Larry Walker,
Thank you for your preliminary analysis.
I assume you already have access to the data.
Is there anything more I need to provide anyone with?
From: Larry Walker
RE: Congratulations on Big Y results
Dear Big Y Tester,
Your valuable Big Y test results will be used to develop the phylogenetic map of mankind if you join the:
After joining, you should receive a request from an admin or co-admin of each project (I am CCing them) telling you what raw data they would like for you to provide and requesting your permission to use it. That will get you into:
From my end, I recommend that you join http://www.yfull.com/ which will cost another $49, but IMHO is well worth it.
Over time (I have a large backlog) I will eventually browse your BAM data at Yfull to confirm the status (+ or -) and read quality of over 700 novel variants. Several good reasons to join YFull that do not include anything that I might do are:
- Other than YFull, everything above is being done by individual volunteers. If any of us gets run over by a truck, then whatever we are providing goes Kaput. YFull is run as a business by a team, so is not vulnerable to the individual casualty risk.
- YFull provides complete BAM file analysis including Y-STRs and mtDNA (what you get from the rest of us is partial) with a great set of on-line reports and tools. See http://rangebiome.org/YFullTour.pdf for examples, or go to http://www.yfull.com/ and login as email “email@example.com”, password “yfull” for a hands-on sample.
- YFull's experimental tree for our R-DF41/CTS2501/ subclade includes private as well as public SNPs, and is updated every 2 to 4 weeks.
I hope that FTDNA and/or FGC will eventually evolve to providing a similar level of analysis and access, but YFull is the only game in town that I know of for now.
That is probably enough for now.
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Column # 9.
Administrator Larry's Request
NGS expert Larry Walker Larry prefers that your .BAM file be interpreted by YFULL:
"ANYBODY WHO HAS BIGY (or FGC) SHOULD PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE JOIN YFULL!!!... While processing new YFull data in preparation for the diagram at http://rangebiome.org/Morrison-Q.jpg for kit 52062 Miller, I found it positive for 17326894CA and 7311229CT which had not been called in the FTDNA reports. And, I found kit 82890 Morrison positive for 7311229CT which had not been called in the FTDNA reports. So, I developed the SPECULATIVE diagram on the ASSUMPTION that all Q’s might be positive (but not called by FTDNA) for those two novel variants. IF CONFIRMED for all of the remaining kits through YFull, it rectifies the problems contained in the online diagram." See FORUM.
Shall We Take the Next Step?
The results of your Y-DNA67 test would be useless if you were the only descendant of the first High Steward of Scotland who ordered it. More descendants of the first High Steward of Scotland have ordered Big Y and Y-DNA111 STR tests than the average Stewart family because of their extraordinary family spirit and because FTDNA created an exclusive project for them.
Shall we take the next step? 148478 Thomas (S781-) tried to get the ball rolling by being the first to order an FGC test. S781+ Administrator Desideriu ordered an FGC test on Nov/04/2014. Were their efforts in vain?
A $575 Big Y test covers about 75% of the SNPs in ISOGG's database, and about 70% of the private SNPs that an $775 Y Elite 2 test covers. A test that covers all 14.6 million bases costs even more.
SNP L746 a.k.a. S310
"We are phasing over to favoring the L746 designation for the triad as L744 (adjoins a possible deletion) and L745 (a deletion) can be problematic to identify with next generation sequencing (NGS) and has yielded some false negatives."
"As we are now at a level where identifying branches from STR results appears to be just about impossible, that makes everybody who is willing to invest in a Big Y test a 'priority candidate'".
"Big Y analyst Larry also wrote: ". . .we have covered most, or all, readily identifiable high priority candidates for identification of new branches. ANY additional BigY tests now will either help refine the branches that we have identified, or will identify new branches. Any branch or twig on the box diagram in “Graph #1” that has more than 1 novel variant shown would benefit from refinement."
"... there appears to be no clear indicator from either phylogenetic trees or spreadsheet examination of STR results for projecting whether a person can be expected to test either positive or negative for S781." Must the STR haplotypes of all grandsons of Walter the third High Steward have been identical to the Mode of this entire Stewart family therefore?
" ... 148478 Thomas tested S781-, so whatever hope we had that his FGC test would help clarify the S781+ group is gone. After looking at GD’s, I think that he may end up as a third kit in the Pierce-Thompson cluster."
"Anyway, that is just my opinion. Different people will look at the same data and develop different opinions. The way I see things for now are posted at a permalink http://rangebiome.org/L746Strategy.jpg for whatever it is worth. That Graph is a LOT of work, so I will not update it very often."
Administrator Larry may update Graph # 1 above, and recommend more SNP tests after FTDNA delivers more results. These results may make it easier for some S781+ and S781- Stewarts to determine to which branch they belong by ordering individual SNP tests instead of Big Y tests (~$500).
Note: Administrator Larry's messages in Columns 3, 4 & 5 above were slightly edited by the web master.
Row # 4
|GD between racial haplotypes is greater than indicated due to haplotype convergence.|
|Table # 2||M|
|39568 Stewart Duke||2||-||51||45||60||67|
|Related||- Hybrid mutation model is used||
|Table # 3 - Grey cells indicate the 12 ($59), 25, 37 ($169), 67 ($268) and 111 ($339) marker levels||DYS 393||DYS 390||DYS 19/ 394||DYS 391||DYS 385||DYS 426||DYS 388||DYS 439||DYS 389 i||DYS 392||DYS 389 ii||DYS 458||DYS 459||DYS 455||DYS 454||DYS 447||DYS 437||DYS 448||DYS 449||DYS 464||DYS 460||Y-GATA-H4||YCA II||DYS 456||DYS 607||DYS 576||DYS 570||CDY||DYS 442||DYS 438||DYS 531||DYS 578||DYF 395 S1||DYS 590||DYS 537||DYS 641||DYS 472||DYF 406 S1||DYS 511||DYS 425||DYS 413||DYS 557||DYS 594||DYS 436||DYS 490||DYS 534||DYS 450||DYS 444||DYS 481||DYS 520||DYS 446||DYS 617||DYS 568||DYS 487||DYS 572||DYS 640||DYS 492||DYS 565||DYS 710||DYS 485||DYS 632||DYS 495||DYS 540||DYS 714||DYS 716||DYS 717||DYS 505||DYS 556||DYS 549||DYS 589||DYS 522||DYS 494||DYS 533||DYS 636||DYS 575||DYS 638||DYS 462||DYS 452||DYS 445||Y-GATA-A10||DYS 463||DYS 441||Y-GGAAT-1B07||DYS 525||DYS 712||DYS 593||DYS 650||DYS 532||DYS 715||DYS 504||DYS 513||DYS 561||DYS 552||DYS 726||DYS 635||DYS 587||DYS 643||DYS 497||DYS 510||DYS 434||DYS 461||DYS 435|
|Modal STR Haplotype of all Descendants of High Stewards of Scotland tested by FTDNA ==> ||13||24||14||11||11-14||12||12||12||13||13||29||17||9-10||11||11||25||15||19||29||14-15-17-17||11||10||19-23||15||15||17||17||36-37||12||12||11||9||15-16||8||10||10||8||11||10||12||23-23||16||10||12||12||15||8||12||22||21||14||12||11||13||11||11||12||11||36||15||9||16||13||25||26||19||12||11||12||12||11||9||13||12||10||11||11||30||12||14||24||13||10||10||21||15||18||13||24||16||12||15||25||12||23||18||10||14||17||9||12||11|
|Haplotype of ducal descendant #39568 of Charles II according to Roger S. Powell, MA||13||24||14||11||11-14||12||12||12||13||13||29||17||9-10||11||11||25||15||19||30||14-15-16-17||11||10||19-23||15||15||17||17||36-37||12||12||11||9||15-16||8||10||10||8||11||10||12||23-23||16||10||12||12||15||8||12||22||21||14||12||11||13||11||11||12||11|| || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || |
|Haplotype of # 9 (J1c3d. The y-MRCA of HG R & Semitic J-L147 lived ~45 KYA.||12||23||14||10||14-17||11||17||12||13||11||29||17||8-8||11||11||25||14||20||25||14-14-16-16||11||10||21-22||15||14||18||18||31-31||13||10||11||8||15-16||8||11||11||8||11||9||12||21-22||19||10||12||12||17||8||13||25||21||13||12||11||13||12||12||12||11||32||15||8||15||12||24||27||20||12||12||13||11||12||9||11||12||10||11||11||30||11||13||22||15||11||11||20||15||19||10||23||15||11||16||24||12||20||18||9||15||17||9||11||11|
|Haplotype of N50900 (China). The y-MRCA of HG O & R lived ~70 KYA.||12||25||16||11||12-12||11||12||12||12||13||28||17||9-9||11||11||24||14||20||31||12-15-15-15||11||12||19-23||14||15||17||18||32-36||11||10||11||8||15-17||8||11||7||8||11||10||12||17-17||16||11||12||12||16||7||13||24||19||12||12||11||15||10||11||12||11||38||15||8||16||12||25||28||20||11||11||13||12||12||9||11||11||10||11||12||31||11||12||23||13||9||9||21||16||20||12||22||16||13||15||25||12||23||19||10||14||18||9||12||12|
|Haplotype of Australoid89163 (GD=59@67). The y-MRCA of HG K & R lived ~106 KYA.||13||23||16||10||13-13||11||10||12||14||14||29||18||9-9||11||8||28||15||19||27||14-14-15-15||10||11||19-22||15||14||17||22||31-34||13||10||13||8||16-16||9||11||10||8||11||10||0||19-21||19||10||12||12||16||9||11||26||22||15||11||11||13||11||11||12||11|| || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || |
|Haplotype of # N64496 & 215865 (GD=68@67, HG A00 descendants of Dixie's Carolinian slaves)||13||19||16||10||16-17||13||11||12||13||12||30||16||8-9||10||11||24||12||21||32||13-15-15-18||11||9||16-18||15||15||14||18||36-36||12||16||10||9||14-14||8||10||8||8||11||7||9||23-23||17||12||11||12||16||8||12||26||23||0||12||12||14||10||11||11||12||39||15||9||13||12||22||28||19||10||11||11||10||12||10||11||10||8||10||13||31||0||12||20||0||10||9||27||15||12||13||26||17||13||14||24||15||15||20||13||15||14||9||12||11|
|Distance from reference:||Zero||One||Two||Three+||The Most Recent Common Patrilineal Ancestor of all men who belong to HG R lived ~27 KYA. The Y chromosomes of men in R have no known SNP mutations in common with men in A00 & Neanderthals. According to Dr. Michael Hammer at the University of Arizona & Dr. Thomas Krahn, the theoretical y-MRCA of all men who belong to HG R & men who belong to HG A00 lived ~338,000 years ago (95% confidence interval 237 - 581 KYA). Some scientists claim that miscegenation between humans & Neanderthals occured, & that their ancestral population lived ~370,000 years ago.
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This counter read 35,938 on 11/3/2015. It read Zero Mar 01, 2014; 2,975 Apr 01; 6,563 May 1; 7,351 May 11 (replaced the older version); 7,500 May 20; 8,333 June 1; 10,275 July 1; 11,820 August 1; 13,255 September 2; 15,300 October 1; 17,758 November 1; 21,813 December 1; 24,000 Jan. 1; 24,786 Jan. 15, 2015 (when Columns # 15 & 16 about anthropology, etc. were censored); 25,610 Feb 1, 26,936 Mar. 1, 28,837 April 1, 30,342 May 1, 31,340 June 3, 31,975 on July 2, 32,718 on July 31, 33,642 on Sept. 4, and ? on 10/1/2015.
We thank the following contributors to the General Fund of this project: David E. Stuart, Steven Mitchell, Donald Grant, Michael Clancey, Hereld Stuart, Francis Marion Stewart III, CD Stewart, Donna Lindberg, Robert Lindberg, Shirley Black Barry, Mary Stuart Spangler, Desideriu Ramelet-Stuart, William Hamilton Stewart, Alexander Stewart, Belinda Dettmann, Diana Stewart Powels.
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||Ann Stewart Burns
||For anonymous Big Y tester Stewart, negative 781
||Contribution towards Big Y Test for Steven Mitchell. If not needed for it, then for any other purpose.
||Preston Stewart Myers
||This donation is for SNP tests 781 for kit number 209417 or any other SNP test fo further define this kit's ancestry.
||David E. Stuart
||John Moody Stuart of Philadelphia,1882-1957
||Ann Stewart Burns, admin of 330477
||In memory of Goodwill Murray Stewart
||Janis Stewart Storbo
||To find Stewarts in Northern Ireland to test for matches
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