R-M343 (M73- M269-) DNA Project- Background



This R-M343 (M73- M269-) project is designed for people who are R1b1 (that is, who are M343+ and/or P25+) but who are not M73+ or M269+.

At FTDNA, this currently (as of 2015) means that your haplogroup should either predicted or confirmed to be R-M343, R-P25, R-V88, R-PF6289, or R-L389.

If you are not sure whether that description fits you, feel free to join. We'll review your DNA results and make a determination.


Origin and History of Haplogroup R-M343 (R1b): Haplogroup R-M343 originated approximately 22,000 years ago.  Over the following 10,000 years, the haplogroup subdivided and expanded so that modern descendants are found on every continent.  Some sources refer to R-M343 as a "European" haplogroup, but this reference is out-dated and imprecise: many R-M343 men do have European ancestry (especially those in subclade R-M269) but many others do not.


Because this project conducts primary research, our terminology may not always agree with that used by other sources. The haplogroup tree is used by the project, but  may not reflect the official tree currently in  use by  FTDNA.

Download PDF  November 25, 2015 update
http://www.kumbarov.com/ht35/R1b-M343xM269 Y-DNA tree_02_11_25_2015.png

General Fund

Current balance: $156.76

Type Amount Date Donor Note KitNum Donation Type
Credit $50.00 1/27/2015 Morou BOUKARI     Individual
Credit $50.00 10/19/2014 Musa     Individual
Credit $50.00 12/17/2012 Phillip H. SAvage     Individual
Debit $38.50 8/6/2012     113500 Unknown
Debit $29.00 8/6/2012     166085 Unknown
Debit $29.00 1/4/2012     M7028 Unknown
Debit $38.50 1/4/2012     M6855 Unknown
Debit $79.00 12/12/2011     N34461 Unknown
Debit $79.00 12/12/2011     166085 Unknown
Debit $79.00 12/12/2011     113500 Unknown
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Project Stats

Statistic Type Count
Big Y 11
Combined GEDCOMs Uploaded 18
DISTINCT mtDNA Haplogroups 59
DISTINCT Y-DNA Confirmed Haplogroups 19
DISTINCT Y-DNA Predicted Haplogroups 0
Family Finder 59
Genographic 2.0 Transfers 16
Maternal Ancestor Information 96
mtDNA 67
mtDNA Full Sequence 37
mtDNA Plus 56
mtDNA Subgroups 0
Paternal Ancestor Information 137
Predicted Y-DNA Haplogroups 23
Total Members 199
Unpredicted Y-DNA Haplogroups 0
Unreturned Kits 8
Y-DNA Deep Clade (After 2008) 23
Y-DNA Deep Clade (Prior to 2008) 11
Y-DNA Subgroups 21
Y-DNA111 28
Y-DNA12 179
Y-DNA25 166
Y-DNA37 159
Y-DNA67 99