R-U106xL48 WTY Project- Background

Administrators

Background

This is a Walk Through the Y Project approved by FTDNA scientist Thomas Krahn, to provide participants with the opportunity to be involved in original scientific research. The effort to discover new SNPs may enable the large R-U106 haplogroup to split into further subclades, with more regional specificity and a better understanding of migration paths and lines of descent.Please note This project has nothing to do with the R-U106 haplogroup project. Please direct any inquiries about this Walk Through the Y Project to us at the email address above, and NOT to the R1b-U106 Project Admins, a group of great guys, who have enough to do managing their >700 participant project and who have nothing to do with the this WTY-Project. Thanks! If you are sure you want to apply to Thomas and you are sure you want to carry the cost of the WTY-test of $750 yourself, please contact us first at the e-mail address above and we will help you to get everything organised. Please don't contact Thomas directly, as you will first need to be accepted as member of an approved WTY project. This project was set up alongside the existing R1b-L48-WTY Project, that concentrates on the R-L48 haplogroup. This project focusses on the parent R-U106 haplogroup for everybody who was explicitly tested L48-. The names of these projects are similar; therefore: MIND THE X in R-U106xL48WTY !! Initially, the project will be directed by the DYS390 marker, the marker that proved very useful in the prediction of R-L48 membership. Within the R-U106 haplogroup, the dominant values of the DYS390 marker are 23, 24 and 25 (with DYS390=23 highly suggestive of R-L48 membership). Whether DYS390 will be helpful in predicting membership of new R-U106 subclades in the future is unknown.

Project Funding

On the basis of DYS390 we propose to test the following haplotypes and we invite you to take part by sponsoring one or more of these tests that each will cost $750. The individual that gets tested pays at least 50% of the total amount himself. 0. Unallocated (still in cash: $261 (R-U106) + $50 (R-L1)) $136 from Vince Tilroe $40 from Peter Op den Velde Boots (for a L257 test) $85 from Peter Op den Velde Boots 1. Kit#: E1923, Y-SearchID: D2JB2 (R-U106*, DYS390=23) $292 from Peter Op den Velde Boots $25 from Charles Moore $75 from Carol Vass $20 from Gary Corbett $25 from Paul Roche $50 from Clinton Platt $50 from W. Wilson $180 from James Young $33 from FT-DNA's U106-Project (admins: David, Dan, Mike and Gary) Funding Status: Complete 2. Kit#: 63831, Y-SearchID: 2GXWW (R-U106*, DYS390=24) $372 from Vince Tilroe $25 from Charles Moore $30 from John German $75 from Francesco Cesaroni $20 from Gary Corbett $25 from Paul Roche $50 from Clinton Platt $50 from John Pelan $20 from Martha M. Bertrand $50 from W. Wilson $33 from FT-DNA's U106-Project (admins: David, Dan, Mike and Gary) Funding Status: Complete 3. Kit#: 89750 (corrected), Y-SearchID: 8Z8N2 (R-U106*, DYS390=25) $375 from Gary Corbett $25 from Charles Moore $25 from Paul Roche $50 from Clinton Platt $50 from John Pelan $25 from Brent Richards $25 from Ernest K. Johnson $50 from Ralph Cake $50 from Ken Blevins $25 from Douglas W. Fisher $17 from Vince Tilroe $33 from FT-DNA's U106-Project (admins: David, Dan, Mike and Gary) Funding Status: Complete 4. Kit#: 6814 (R-L1) $375 has been promised by John Michael Anthony Little $150 has been promised by Sheridan Vincent in memory of Leo Little $75 has been promised by Joe Fox in memory of Leo Little $50 from Clinton Platt in memory of Leo Little $100 has been promised by James Neal Fox in Memory of Leo Little Funding Status: Complete 5. Kit#: 9217 (R-L1) $200 has been promised by Robert P. Smith $100 has been promised by James Neal Fox $50 has been promised by an anonymous member of the R-L1 Project Funding Status: $ 400 needed to order the test If you want to make a donation, please click here or click 'Contribute to the Surname Project General Fund' on the left. On the form, select "R" as the first number / letter of the group, and scroll down to near the bottom of the list of names to where R-U106xL48WTY appears. Select that and then fill in the rest of the donor info. Please add the note (or send an e-mail) to tell us which test you want to support and if you allow your name to be mentioned in the budget status below. We thank all people involved for their support !!

Project Status

In addition to the project-funded tests mentioned above, a number of people decided to order a WTY-test (and therefore carry the full cost) themselves. Consequently, on behalf of our project the following tests are currently planned and/or in progress:


Nr
Name
Kit
Y-Search
Hg
Status
Batch
Date
Comments

1
Peter M. Op den Velde Boots
E1923 
D2JB2
R-U106
Testing
330
11/25/2009
DYS390=23

2
Vincent Owen Tilroe
63831 
2GXWW
R-U106
Testing
321
09/23/2009
DYS390=24

3
Paul Denis Roche
N35071 
RYU3K
R-U106
Testing
320
09/16/2009
DYS390=24

4
Ronald Pissens
N46336 
Y8HVZ
R-U106
Testing
331
12/02/2009
DYS390=24

5
Gary Stephen Corbett
89750 
8Z8N2
R-U106
Testing
327
11/04/2009
DYS390=25

6
Grant Ross Keddie
80961 
AX87K
R-U106
Testing
329
11/18/2009
DYS390=25

7
John Michael Anthony Little
6814 
?
R-L1
Swabbing




R-L132+

8
Sheridan Eugene Vincent
65834 
U7Q47
R-L1
Testing
329
11/18/2009
R-L132-

9
Robert P. Smith
9217 
?
R-L1
Funding





For the R-L48 subclade of R-U106, a brother project has been set up; its web site can be found here. In the R-U198 subclade, there does not seem to be any interest at this moment to take part in new developments like the WTY-Programme. Currently, there are no official results available for any of the R-U106xL48WTY tests. On the other hand, we do have preliminary results available for test items 1-3 and 5. In these four tests, three new R-U106 SNPs have been discovered and these SNPs are presented in the table below. Only the first of these SNPs can currently be ordered with FT-DNA, as indicated in the column Test.


Nr
Name
Def
Found with
Test
Second
Comment

1
L199
13987142 T>A
2GXWW Tilroe
Yes
Tilroe (father)
No other known close matches

2
L257
14177422 T>C
D2JB2 Op den Velde
No

No further information

3
L259
13537032 C>T
8Z8N2 Corbett
No

No further information

Apart from these SNPs another uncommon feature has been discovered in test item #1. As part of the WTY test, currently all samples are tested for DYS464X. This is an extension of the standard DYS464 test, that adds a letter to each of the four to seven alleles that result from the normal DYS464 test. Sample #1 proved to be DYS464X = 15c-15g-17g-18c, or ccgg for short, which is an uncommon value in R-U106, as most are cccg. An earlier discovery of such a pattern in the R-P312 haplogroup lead to the discovery of the Leinster cluster, a set of haplotypes that are all ccgg and have a common background in the Irish Leinster region. We are currently investigating the meaning of this result in haplogroup R-U106. While we were waiting for the results of the WTY-test, a new SNP was discovered in the FT-DNA lab (it has been said, that this SNP was discovered accidentally during a "normal" Deep Clade test. This SNP is now called L217. As the person with whom this SNP was found choose to remain anonymous, we currently know nothing more about this SNP. The table below specifies the testing status (with FT-DNA !!) of all R-U106* team members (a corresponding table for the R-L1 members will be added when the first results are available). The SNPs that were found during the WTY and all WTY test results are in red (not all of these test results might be officially available), all 23andMe test results are in green and all FT-DNA "classical SNP test" results are in black. All open entries imply this SNP has not been tested by the person with any lab. The private SNPs L5, L6 and P107 have been left out from this table.


Nr
Name
L1
L48
U198
P89.2
L127.2
L199
L217
L257
L259
DYS464X

1
Peter M. Op den Velde Boots









+

cggc

2
Vincent Owen Tilroe





+




cccg

3
Paul Denis Roche










cccg

4
Ronald Pissens


















 

5
Gary Stephen Corbett











+
cccg

6
Grant Ross Keddie












cccg

The most up to date diagram of all SNPs below R-M269 can be found here. This diagram is maintained by Thomas Krahn personally and all newly discovered SNPs (such as Vince's brand new L199) appear on this diagram in a matter of days. As of very recently, Thomas is developing a new diagram, that can be found here. Please be aware, that this last diagram is still very much in an experimental phase.

Conclusion

To be done

Next Steps

All information about the ongoing investigation of L257 and DYS464x can be found on the L257 Web Site.

General Fund