Phelps/Felps DNA Project- Background

Administrators

Surnames

Felpes, Felps, Phelips, Phelps, Philps

Background

(To view the tested lineages click Results under About This Group; their ydna is in YDNA Results)


Join us in our efforts to find the Phelps line to which we belong or confirm our research, break through "brick walls", and "jump over the pond"!    Surname Y-DNA testing is the newest tool available to genealogists. These tests help genealogists verify their paternal ancestry (father's father).

 

Membership requirements: The testee must be a male whose surname is Phelps (or an acceptable spelling variant)  and who considers himself to be a biological Phelps descendant. Membership is open to any person represented by the provided email addresses in the testee's FTDNA kit record.  (Membership in related Google discussion groups is open to any legitimate researcher and does not have to be a member here*Those not meeting the requirements may be given a temporary membership to allow access to this Phelps FTDNA analysis and contact with matched Phelps.     (For a detailed discussion on special membership situations, please see below:  Membership Requirements Explanation)

 

To join simply click the "Join Request" tab above and receive a discount while joining our projectUnsure about which yDNA test?   Go here... 

If your ydna matches with previously tested Phelps lines, your kit will be grouped with them on the YDNA Results page here. The Phelps project administrator will be in touch with you about other steps you will want to take such as contacting lineage coordinators and joining private discussion groups.


-   You may want to visit the YDNA Phelps Genealogies site, maintained by various "lineage coordinators whom you may contact.  It is genealogy oriented.  Or participate with the Phelps Facebook: Phelps Genealogy in America

-  For southern Phelps, visit A Repository of  Research on Southern Phelps Families of the 18th and 19th Centuries 

    and the blog, Phelps Family Research Team

-  Also view the descendants of Nicholas and Hannah Baskel Phelps, Perquimans Co, NC  A free ydna test may be available for descendants.







 Membership Requirements Further Explanation     

Requirements for membership in our Phelps project sometimes becomes quite complex with applicant frustration and misunderstanding. To help in understanding the present policy, here is some insight.  The present policy for membership is above.

Since YDNA identifies the paternal ancestry, regardless of surname, IMO, YDNA projects would have been better served as identified by YDNA only, no surnames. But since FTDNA and genealogy have organized around surnames, we often find it difficult to define membership.

I have found there are four possible situations where membership is requested:

  1. YDNA matches with a tested Phelps line, surname claimed is Phelps
  2. YDNA does not match any other tested Phelps line, surname claimed is not Phelps
  3. YDNA matches with a tested Phelps line, surname claimed is not Phelps
  4. YDNA does not match any other tested Phelps line, surname claimed is Phelps

 

Two possibilities are easily handled:

  1. YDNA matches with a tested Phelps line, surname claimed is Phelps. The ydna kit is made part of the project and a brief genealogy is posted. Genealogy issues are discussed among the related members.
  2. YDNA does not match any other tested Phelps line, surname claimed is not Phelps. Applicant is usually found in another surname project. Membership is usually brief to confirm the lack of a match.

    The other two situations are more difficult:

  3. YDNA matches with a tested Phelps line, surname claimed is not Phelps

    Since "Phelps" is not the desired surname yet matches with other Phelps, a non-paternity event is poaaible. Temporary membership is allowed to research the non-paternity event. Since the project is "Phelps" the non-Phelps surname member is not expected to be permanent.

  4. YDNA does not match any other tested Phelps line, surname claimed is Phelps.

    1. The claimed line does not point to a Phelps line that has already been identified by a sufficient number of other tested Phelps: Membership is granted creating a new Phelps line.

    2. The claimed line points to a Phelps line that has already been identified by a sufficient number of tested Phelps who have agreed to their genealogy: This situation has cause much disappointment, often to those who have researched genealogy for many years. It can be quite devastating and if additional testing is done to find the apparent "Non-Paternity Event" it can even lead to recent ancestors. It may involve other surnames who are not interested in finding which of their relatives were involved. These people should join the other surname project. If desired, Phelps membership is shown under "Unmatched Phelps", with a genealogy if requested.

 

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General Fund

Current balance: $150.00

Type Amount Date Donor Note KitNum Donation Type
Debit $20.00 1/8/2014     301083 Unknown
Credit $20.00 1/7/2014 Walter Phelps For Y-Gata-H4 STR testing on Kit # 301086, Randall Phelps.   Individual
Credit $25.00 9/19/2013 Virginia Phelps for British Isles project   Individual
Credit $25.00 9/19/2013 Wendy Barnes For Brit Phelps project   Unknown
Credit $25.00 9/18/2013 Lawrence Thurston Phelps British Isles testing   Individual
Credit $25.00 9/18/2013 lawrence Timothy phelps For English Phelps testee   Unknown
Debit $50.00 4/12/2013     285295 Unknown
Credit $50.00 4/12/2013 Thomas H. Phelps for Wade Ferri and Uncle Larry Phelps   Individual
Debit $400.00 2/28/2012     108456 Unknown
Credit $25.00 2/25/2012 Kathie Phelps Mann WTY Fund   Individual
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Project Stats

Statistic Type Count
Big Y 1
Combined GEDCOMs Uploaded 14
DISTINCT mtDNA Haplogroups 15
DISTINCT Y-DNA Confirmed Haplogroups 13
DISTINCT Y-DNA Predicted Haplogroups 11
Family Finder 12
Genographic 2.0 Transfers 1
Maternal Ancestor Information 41
mtDNA 22
mtDNA Full Sequence 8
mtDNA Plus 13
mtDNA Subgroups 0
Paternal Ancestor Information 112
Predicted Y-DNA Haplogroups 23
Total Members 129
Unpredicted Y-DNA Haplogroups 0
Unreturned Kits 1
WTY 1
Y-DNA Deep Clade (After 2008) 6
Y-DNA Deep Clade (Prior to 2008) 8
Y-DNA Subgroups 16
Y-DNA111 2
Y-DNA12 128
Y-DNA25 120
Y-DNA37 98
Y-DNA67 38