ELDER Y-Chromosome DNA Project - Goals

The goal of the ELDER Surname Project is to
distinguish between ELDER ancestral lines, worldwide,
and connect lines that have reached brick walls
on their paper trail, especially to connect to their Scotland origins.

GENEALOGY list from Donna's chart, updated:
CHART 1 - FRANKLIN COUNTY, PA  - "R1b1" - "COLLA UAIS" on SCOTLAND DNA CHART
15696
1. Andrew R.- March 15,1795 -July 1854 in
     Alexander County, NC at Carson Chapel Church
2. George W.- January 20 1833-October 24 1924 in
    Alexander County, NC at Carson Chapel
3. John Carson -1859-1934 in
     Alexander County, NC at Carson Chapel

Carson's Chapel United Methodist
4161 Rocky Springs Road      
Hiddenite, NC 28636      
828- 632-4810

Taylorsville to Carson's Chapel Church
Total Est. Time:  15 minutes
Total Est. Distance: 5.45 miles

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/IredellCoNC.htm
also Alexander Co NC
at

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/AlexanderCoNC.htm

16176
1. JOHN, res. Iredell Co NC 1800
2. WILLIAM S., b 1825 Buncombe Co NC
3. ANDREW J., b 1850 Marion Co IA
4. GEORGE WASHINGTON, b 1867

114538
1. JOHN ELDER, b. abt 1814 NC
2. WILLIAM F. ELDER, b. abt 1846 [Christian Co] IL

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cjhill&id=I00678
and
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/MaconCoIL.htm

***
187668  (matches NC entries 11/12)
George Walker Elder, b. 1861 Conecuh Co AL - d. 1920 Conecuh Co AL
Findagrave Photo of Cemetery stone  

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=elder&GSiman=1&GScid=1972271&GRid=50889328&

10277
1. JOHN (1756 - 1834 Randolph Co NC)
2. WILLIAM (1784 - 1879 Overton Co TN)
3. ROBERT (1813-1882 Oregon Territory)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ammons/William-Elder-1784.html
and Ancestry Tree:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/30879714/person/12321510095


14778
1. GEORGE ELDER d. 1800 Bedford Co PA
2. JAMES, b. 1777 d. 1863 Bedford Co PA
3. ACHOR, b. 1815 d. 1855 Columbiana Co OH
4. HORACE ACHOR, b. 1855 d. 1927 Wood Co OH

http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/3103503/person/-1775193783
and
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/MartinMorrowCoOH.htm

78241
Robert ELDER (1730-1807) of Franklin Co PA
Abraham, b. 1755  (moved to Centre Co PA)
Robert, b. 1785 Fannett, Franklin Co PA  (moved to Centre Co PA)
Abram, b. 1817  ( Centre Co PA)
Robert Thomas Elder, b. 1852 (buried Grays Cem, Centre Co PA]

http://www.footnote.com/page/1066
***

85035
Joseph Caseville ELDER, b. 1819 TN - d. 1862
John Silas ELDER (b. 25 Jan 1845- d. 1913 in Mt. Ida, Montgomery, AR)
William Caswell ELDER (b. abt 1876 AR -  d. TX )

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/GranvilleElder1910TX.htm

88041
Isaac Rains ELDER, b. 1797 OH

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/pa/ThomasDentonElder.htm

57827
1. GEORGE ELDER d. 1800 Bedford Co PA
 ROBERT b. 1768,
   JOHN, b. 1804
     m Jane (Sparr) BRADFORD in Hancock Co OH
     son: #158. JOHN W. ELDER,
           b. abt 1826 in 1860 census
       son #167. SYLVESTER BELL ELDER in Ohio
             b. Wood Co OH
                buried Pendleton, OR

#13706 [D8SBV] and #23663 [UWNX6]
1. Samuel H. ELDER, b. 1856, Jefferson Co TN
   (Descendants of Sevier Co TN - Ann Elder Brooks Poe sponsor)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/AnnElderBrooksPoe.htm

20638
1. JACOB ELDER b. 1785, d 1818 Lincoln Co. KY

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/JacobElder1818KY.htm

12747
1. GEORGE ELDER d. 1800 Bedford Co PA
2. JAMES, b. 1777 PA
3. JOHN, b. 1822 PA
4. LEWIS, b.1844 Bedford Co PA--moved to Crawford Co KS

185577
1. GEORGE ELDER d. 1800 Bedford Co PA
2. JOHN ELDER b. 1766 Huntingdon Co PA

http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/14921723/person/200906529?ssrc=

12898
1. JAMES ELDER, b. 1769 Clarion Co PA

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=0220061974&id=I4633

and cousins
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/ArmstrongCoPA.htm

10261
1. JAMES (1766 - 1843 - Randolph Co NC)
2.. JOHN (1808 - 1873 - Randolph Co NC)
3. ELIAS (1845-1914 - Randolph Co NC)
Ancestry Tree:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/30879714/person/12321510095

29820
1. JOHN ELDER d. 1885, Wilmington, Lawrence Co PA (also in Mercer Co,
PA)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/pa/WashingtonCoPA.htm

44209
William Alexander ELDER, b. 1836 OH
f:"DAVID CLARK ELDER" , b. 1798,
 Path Valley, Franklin Co PA.
f: JOHN ELDER, b. 1755, Cumberland Co PA
Moved to Beaver Co PA in 1802.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/OrvilleElder.htm
and
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/e/l/d/Grant-Elder-KS/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0042.html

****
34317
1. DAVID ELDER (1739-1813) Franklin Co PA m. Margery Stewart
2. WILLIAM ELDER (1759-1784) Franklin Co PA
3. DAVID ELDER (1785-1827) Mifflin Co PA
4. NOAH ABRAHAM ELDER (1814-1886) Mifflin Co PA
5. JESSE REYNOLDS ELDER (b. 1852- d. Aurora, IL)
6. JAMES REYNOLDS ELDER (b. 1880 - d. Aurora, IL)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/DavidMargery.htm

6095
1. ELDER, b Toronto, Canada early 1900s (adoptee)

88750 (adoptee)

18545
1. ROBERT ELDER d. 1807 Franklin Co PA
2. JOSEPH, b. 1770 Franklin Co PA, d. 1858 Westmoreland Co PA
3. JOSEPH JR, b. 1811 Franklin Co PA, d. 1868 Westmoreland Co PA
4. WILLIAM ALEXANDER, 1854-1932 Westmoreland Co PA

10042
1. ROBERT (1730 Perth Scotland--1807 Franklin Co PA)
2. JOSEPH (1770 Franklin Co PA --1858 Westmoreland Co PA)
3. JOHN (1805 Franklin Co PA --1863 Wood Co OH)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/RobToJos1807Will.htm

#221168
Josiah M. ELDER,  b. 1 JAN 1848, Portage, Wood, OH -  d. 23 Dec 193, Petersburg, Monroe, MI
   m. Emily Amelia TROMBLEY/TREMBLAY
father:
John ELDER, b. 1805 Fannett, Franklin, PA - d. 1863 Wood Co OH-  m. Mary MOREHOUSE
father:
Joseph ELDER,  b. 16 NOV 1770 Fannett, Franklin, PA
   d.  7 AUG 1858, Ligonier, Westmoreland, PA -  m. Polly WALKER
father;
Robert ELDER (Rev. War Patriot) -  b. abt 1730 near PERTH, SCOTLAND
 d. 1807 Franklin Co, PA - m. Mary _THORN

132709
Daniel ELDER, b. SCT?
Nathaniel ELDER, B. SCT. - son Nathaniel res. Ballymoney
Joseph Dickey ELDER b: 1838 IRE or SCT - d. Culmore,Antrim,N.Ire
James Gray ELDER, b 21 Jul 1868 in Culmore,Ballymoney,Antrim,N.Ire - d. 1945 WI

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:742914&id=I34304994

Kit #116194
William S. ELDER b. 1826 Franklin Co PA -
                 d. 1887 Clarion Co PA

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/JohnElder1821CentreCoPA.htm

#171586
Jacob Elder, b. 1865 KY
***
Kit #206260
father: David Elder (ll)  b. 1772  - d. 22 Jan. 1837 Washington Co., PA
father: David Elder (l)  d. 1814 Robinson Twp., Washington Co., PA
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/WashingtonCoPA.htm
****
Kit #222304
David Delaney Elder, b. 1856 Gallatin, White, IL - d. 1922 Reno, Washoe, NV
James Morrow Elder,  b. 1816 Livingston, Caldwell, KY - d. 1858 Gallatin, White, IL
David Elder, b. abt 1784, Spartanburg, Spartanburg, SC - d. 1832, Smithland, Livingston, KY
John Mayes Elder, b. 1754 Spartanburg Co SC - d. 1799 Centerville, Livingston, KY
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/18642159/person/689984848?pg=32810
and notes:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/JamesMorrowElderGallatinIL.htm
*****

CHART 2 - GLASGOW, SCOTLAND
76740 - Thomas Elder, b. 1876 Limavady, Co L'Derry, Northern Ireland

http://www.elder-mcgilligan.com

37194 - Joseph Elder, b. 1749 Washingon Co VA
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dsorby&id=I3765

N3302 -- JAMES E. ELDER, b. 1817 Scotland, m Barony, Lanark, Scotland
       son: DAVID W. ELDER, b 1854 in Ontario, Canada

94092 -- William John ELDER, b. 1840 -
         d. Mar 12, 1900 Cloughmills, Ballymoney, Co Antrim, Ireland

129171 -- James McCord Elder, b. 1822 KY - D. 1905 Parke Co IN

****
Chart 3: MAINE ELDER group:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/Maine.htm
23005
1. SAMUEL TYNG ELDER
b. 1784 Portland, Cumberland, ME,
d. 1829 Moss Point, Jackson Co., MS

Fran Pickett's WorldConnect
at

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3306909&id=I00468

and WorldConnect
by Jim Weyand

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweyand&id=I811
and
Amelia JAMES has MAINE ELDER info on her new website:
at

http://www.remleml.com/family

20923
Andrew ELDER, d. 1807 Madison Co KY
ANDERSON ELDER d. Berea, Madison Co., KY

Kit #202515 - David Robert Elder
WorldConnect  by Bryn

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=basbury&id=I11375

87786
1. ALEXANDER ELDER,
b. 1796, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England

100589
GEORGE ELDER (b. 1811 E. Anstruther, Fife - d. Ontario, Canada)
JOHN ELDER (b. 1769 Crail, Fife)
  may be related to JOHN ELDER, b. 1806 Crail, Fife - immigr. NJ/CT
See CRAIL notes:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/Crail.htm
***
#186967
David Elder, d. 1862 Raploch, Stirling, Scotland

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,215420.0.html

****

CHART 4 - PAXTANG, HARRISBURG, PA - "I" Isles Haplogroup - I1b2a1  (Old I1c) Viking on Scotland DNA chart

113062
Robert H. ELDER, b. abt 1828 Indiana Co PA
                 d. 1892 Dallas County Iowa

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/DallasCoIA.htm

15134 & 146005 & AncestryDNA #1 (George b. 1858 IA)
1. JOHN ELDER, b. 1660 Midlothian, Scotland
2. JOHN, b. 1690 Antrim Co Ireland
3. HENRY, b. 1735 Garvagh, Co Londonderry, Ireland, d. 1817 Ireland
4. MATTHEW, b. 1775 Londonderry, Ireland, d. 1861 Iowa
5. HENRY (II) , b. 1817 Garvagh, Co Derry, d. 1902 Iowa

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1697853&id=I77236695
***

75444
ROBERT ELDER (1836-1910) Inch Island, Co. Donegal
Others immigr. to Saskatchewan
Inch Island ELDER webpage:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~inchelder/index.html
****
15534
1. ROBERT ELDER, b 1679 Scotland; d 28 Jul 1746 Paxtang Twp., Dauphin Co., PA.
2. THOMAS, b 1708 Scotland; d Jul 1752, Paxtang Twp., Dauphin Co., PA.
3. ROBERT, b abt 1748, prob. Dauphin Co., PA; d 3 Oct 1825 Clark Co., OH.
4. THOMAS, b. 6 Apr 1795, Dauphin Co., PA; d 18 Oct 1871, Clark Co., OH.
5. JOHN A., b. 24 Feb 1827, Green Twp., Clark Co., OH; d 24 Mar 1909, Kenton, Hardin Co., OH.

89228
1. ROBERT ELDER, b 1679 Scotland; d 28 Jul 1746 Paxtang Twp., Dauphin Co., PA.
2. THOMAS, b 1708 Scotland; d Jul 1752, Paxtang Twp., Dauphin Co., PA.
3. ROBERT, b abt 1748, prob. Dauphin Co., PA; d 3 Oct 1825 Clark Co., OH.

***
 17814
1. ROBERT ELDER, b. 1679 Scotland
2. ROBERT, b. 1704  
3. ROBERT, 1732 -1790 Elder's Ridge
4. ROBERT, 1767 -1813 Elder's Ridge
5. ROBERT, 1809 -1869 Elder's Ridge

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/RobertYElder.htm
and
Ridgeview/Eldersridge Cemetery - Indiana Co PA

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~treasures/pa/indiana/young/eridgeae.htm

50076
1. William Hoyt Elder, b. 1867, Spartanburg, SC
matches 66/67-- STEWART #5830, 36246, etc.
at

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Stewart/index.aspx

and Null 425 chart test= 10 10 13 13
http://www.familytr eedna.com/ public/null425

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CHART 5 - PETER ELDER, d. 1673 VA - R1b1 - "COLLA UAIS" on Scotland DNA chart
12786
1. PETER ELDER, d. 1673 VA
2. PETER Jr., of VA
3. WILLIAM, b 1688 of VA
4. JOSEPH, b 1731 of VA
5. DAVID, b 1760 of GA
6. WYCHE, b 1804 of GA
7. EDMOND, b. 1848 GA & AL
8. SAMUEL, b. 1871 AL

12593
1. PETER ELDER b. 1593/1594
2. PETER, b. 1654/1655, Rappahannock Co, VA
3 .WILLIAM, b. 21 May 1715, N. Farnham Par., Richmond Co, VA
4. PETER, b. 21 May 1715, N. Farnham Par., Richmond Co, VA
5. PETER, b. 1 Dec 1741, N. Parham Parish, Richmond Co, VA
6. EPHRAIM, .b. 1762, N. Farnham Par., Richmond Co, VA
7. WILLIAM, b. abt 1808, Spartanburg Co, SC

35714
Kendle ELDER, b. 1835, Henry Co MO

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/e/l/d/John-Kendall-Elder/index.html
and photo
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/KendallElderPhoto.jpg

42193
1. PETER ELDER, d 1673 VA
to  DAVID ELDER, b 1803 VA/Rutherford Co TN

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:885096&id=I3765

and Gibson Co TN
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/GibsonCoTN/MaryElder1865.htm

58367
PETER ELDER...to
Claiborne Elder
Burwell Elder
Henry H Elder, b 1835 Dinwiddie County, Virginia

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/e/l/d/Chandler-C-Elder/index.html
and
WorldConnect by Chandler Elder
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3129237&id=I613529450

90361
William Edmund Elder b. 1688 VA

97244
Peter Elder, d. 1763 VA

200329
Sebe Elder, TN
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/SebeElderTN.htm

230505
Brightwell Rather Elder, d. 1888 Union Co MS
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/EdgarMarvinElder1910TX.htm

110192 Spartanburg, SC (Lindates1)
Hilliard (1842-1887) and Lucinda Sexton ELDER

South Carolina Archives - Search for ELDER

http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/onlinearchives/SearchResults.aspx
ELDER, D. HILLIARD -
Series: S126088 - Confed. Pension application - Meritorious
Item: 10686  (2 pages - Handwritten images)
 ELDER,LUCINDA OF SPARTANBURG, SPARTANBURG COUNTY APPLICATION FOR PENSION FORD. HILLIARD ELDER'S SERVICE IN COMPANY B, THIRTEENTH REGT, HOLCOMBLEGION.- Date: 9/15/1919
Has her marriage date: 31 July 1862
His Death Date: 26 May 1897

See also: WorldConnect
by Melissa Speed

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mspeed1&id=I997

Vickie Beard Thompson's WorldConnect database.
Samuel H. ELDER (1808-1877) KY
at

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=popfraley&id=I171

and
Bob Elder's website
at

http://www.peterelderva.info

********
Book: "PETER ELDER of VA."
First paragraph in the book says:
"The earliest history we have of the Elder "clan,"
they were living in Scotland in the 15th century.
Eventually they emigrated to England and Ireland
 on account of their religious liberties and viewpoints.
Peter Elder, Sr. along with two brothers, came to
this country in the early 1600's.
They landed in Norfolk, VA., but do not appear in a book of immigrants.
 Peter came over as a stowaway
and working out his passage with a rich merchant....
  (no more specifics about Ireland/Scotland)

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CHART 6:
WILLIAM d. 1714 Maryland - "R1b1" (matches Jason CLARY - "R1b1" chart
15879
1. WILLIAM ELDER, d 1714 MD
2. WILLIAM, b 1707, d 1775 Emmitsburg, Frederick Co., MD
3. ALOYSIUS, d 1827 Emmitsburg, Frederick Co., MD
4. JOACHIM, b 1785 Emmitsburg, Frederick Co., MD
5. JAMES A., b 1830 Emmitsburg, Frederick Co., MD
Home Page on Weebly:
http://thewilliamelderofmaryland.weebly.com

44816
1. WILLIAM ELDER, d 1714 MD
...RICHARD ELDER, b. 1818 Cambria Co PA
   (family came from Emmitsburg)

101450 William ELDER, d. 1714 MD  (62/67 with 44816)

N60895 William ELDER, d. 1714 MD (12/12 with 1st 2)

122484 Owen Leroy ELDER, b. 1883 AR (12/12 with all)
        f: Harris O. ELDER
        f: Thomas ELDER, b. KY
        f: Ignatius ELDER, b. MD (brother of Basil)
        f: Thomas H. ELDER m. Monica Greenwell
Sharon Gifford's WorldConnect for Ignatius ELDER:
at

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2399497&id=I515435579 
****
Z2 -  John ELDER (1755-1836) m. Nancy Rose - Resided Lawrence Co PA
Kit #206529
James Elder, b. 1815 Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co PA - d. 1894 Hancock Co IL
m. Eliza J. Martin, b. 1821 Beaver Co PA
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/HancockCoIL.htm

Z-4 FIFE - Chart
Kit #155942
Connection to Pittwenweem, Fife, Scotland
Notes
William Elder, b. abt 1802 Pittenweem, Fife

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/FifePittenweem.htm

#186447 Abbotshall, Fife, Scotland
notes:

http://www.familytrail.com/elder/bb/viewtopic.php?t=246

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Z05 - "J2a4h2"
Kit #188265 and #222675 - James Elder (1815-1881 of Fayette Co PA) - matching Elder/Dorsey
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/BrookeCoWV.htm
and "J2a" -L24 Y-DNA project
at
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/j-l24-y-dna
with
kit #12883 - "J2a4h2"
1. JOHN ELDER (d. 1740 - Anne Arundel Co. MD) m. Mary Morris
2. JOHN ELDER (1695-1762 - Anne Arundel Co/Baltimore Co. MD) m. Jemima DORSEY
3. OWEN ELDER (d. 1774 - Anne Arundel Co/Baltimore Co. MD) m. Anne DORSEY
4. JOHN OWEN ELDER (1771-1857 - Anne Arundel Co/Carroll Co.MD) m. Ann DORSEY (f: Lancelot)
5. MICHAEL ELDER (1800-1868 - Carroll Co. MD/Marshall Co WV) m. Catherine DORSEY
Green Spring Valley, MD (pt. 1-2)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/news/ElderNews1113.jpg
and
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/news/ElderNews1116.jpg
***

"Other Z" Groups
26383
1. GEORGE ELDER b. abt 1841, Rutherford Co TN

17290 and 13301 (not direct from PETER ELDER - but connected in some other way)
1. PETER ELDER, d. 1674 Old Rappahannock County - now Essex, VA
2. PETER, b. ca 1660 d. before 1687
3. WILLIAM, b. ca 1681 d. ca 1754/1755 Richmond, VA
4. PETER, b. 21-MAY-1715 Richmond, VA ( North Farnham Parish)
5. PETER, b. 01-DEC-1741 North Farnham Parish, Richmond Co, VA d.
1804 Surry County, NC
6. Unknown parents of Jesse Elder
*(Grandfather Peter's will places Jesse in William Elder's charge)
7 Jesse Elder b. 1788 NC d. 16-SEP-1859 Pulaski Co, KY
8 Landon Davis Elder b. 1820 KY d. 07-OCT-1878 Stanley, KS
9 Jesse Tyler Elder b. 28-JUL-1852 Holt Co, MO
d. 25-Jul-1941 Ottawa, Franklin Co, KS

Notes for Rev. Jesse Edwin ELDER of Idaho (Landon)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/MorrisHillCemBoiseID.htm

30720
1. ROBERT ELDER b. 2 Aug 1785 in SELKIRKSHIRE, Scotland (Borders) - 67/67 McClelland

 24196
1. ELDER line of Aberdeen Scotland

24127  (6 of 12 with Peter Elder group)
1. EPHRAIM ELDER b. before 1750 Richmond Co VA
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/e/l/d/Dennis-Elder/GENE6-0001.html

Z14 - #208702 - Elder/McHenry of WV 
32/37 - YSEARCH shows 3 matches for GODDARD, plus  PAYNE (also 23/25).
http://tinyurl.com/3qb34xw

Z15 - #219446  McKinder ELDERS b. 1830 TN  (may connect with Yorkshire, Eng. - Vikings)
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/AlvinMartinELDERS.htm
See: I2b1 study - I-223 - Roots
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/m223-y-clan
***

Scotland - Glasgow (No Kit#-Member37)YSearch: X4KJ9
13 24 14 10 8 14 12 12 12 13 13 29
***

#16874  (11/12, 18/25 with PETER ELDER group)
ID: PD6EQ
ELDER of Somerset Co PA:
Most distant known paternal ancestor on the direct male line
First Name:     John
Last Name:     Elder
Year Born:     1762
Year Died:     1849
Country of Origin:     Jamestown, Ireland
Latitude:     53 deg 56 min 49 sec N
Longitude:     8 deg 5 min 24 sec W

Additional information about Paternal Line:
"John Elder came to the USA in 1791 with his two brothers, Samuel
Elder, and William Gore Elder.
 William went to Edinburg Scotland, College of Physicians, to get his
Medical degree. John was trained as a Blacksmith and taught his
children the Blacksmith trade. On John`s naturalization papers he
listed his affiliation as Episcopalen.

#135785 - Thomas ELDER, Alnwick, Northumberland, near Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England
Border Reivers matches - with Crawford 64/67 and Liddell  34/37
at

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gallgaedhil

 
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Maternal mtDNA results (mtDNA menu):

 #25495 --Haplogroup U5a
1. Mary Darby b. abt.1755 d.abt.1832 Rutherford Co. TN
2. Mary Towler b. 1780 VA, d. 1865 Gibson Co. TN
3. Mary Elder b. 1805 TN, d. aft. 1850 Gibson Co. TN
4. Fannie W. Chrisp b. 1836 TN, d. 1908 Gibson Co. TN
***
#44816 - mtDNA --Haplogroup J1b1
Bertha Jackish b. 1862 Germany

#48943 -Nancy Elder Petersen's mtDNA - J1b1
 Maternal line:
 HENRY, HAGGARD, MATHEWS, WYCKOFF, CLARK (Scotland)
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ELDER origins:
Victor ELDER's webpage, explaining the connection as a
"Sept to the MacIntosh Clan"
(11/12 and 18/25 with PETER ELDER group):
see his genealogy in PA:

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/e/l/d/Victor-Elder/GENE1-0001.html

"The origin of the Elder name is as follows:
"In 1160, Malcomb IV called upon the Clan Macduff
to help him withstand an attempt on his throne.
Duncan Macduff, Chief of the Macduff Clan, sent his son Shaw. At the
end of the war, Shaw was rewarded with his own noble rank and lands
and was known as Macintosh. This much we know, Supposedly, Shaw
Macduff Macintosh had several sons, the oldest of whom was known as
"The Eldar" (original spelling) and his decendants adopted this as
their surname, to distinguish their line from the rest of the clan.
The Elder name is very common in Scotland and has always been
associated with the Clan Macintosh (MacKintosh) so the tale certainly
seems plausible...
MacKintosh or McIntosh means "son of the chief or important person"
and Elder is simply the Anglicised or English form of the Gaelic
name.
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ELDER Coat of Arms - in House of Names:  (2 stars - Dolphin in "S" shape)
at

http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.c/qx/Elder-coat-arms.htm

"Origin Displayed: Scottish
Spelling variations of this family name include: Elder, Elders, Eldar, MacNoravaich and others.
      First found in Edinburghshire the present day Scottish Council Area ofMidlothian in Southeastern Scotland, which as a former county, used to encompass the city of Edinburgh, where they were seated from very ancient times, some say well before the Norman Conquest and the arrival of Duke William at Hastings in 1066 A.D..."

" The arms were registered at Fairfield, County Lanark in 1869."
More about Coat of Arms/Crests
at

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/ElderCrests.htm

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Septs of Clan MacKintosh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_MacKintosh

Adamson,Ayson, Clark, Combie, Crerar, Dallas, Doles, Elder, Esson, Glen,Glennie, Hardie, Hardy, MacAndrew, MacAy, MacCardney, McCombie,MacCombie, MacCombe, MacComie, M'Conchy, Macglashan, Machardie,Machardy, MacHay, Mackeggie, M'Killican, MacNiven, MacOmie, Macritchie,MacThomas, Niven, Noble, Paul, Ritchie, Seawright, Siveright, Shaw,Tarrill, Tosh, Toshach.
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The most famous
written history of ELDER in Pennsylvania,
 is by William EGLE, for another ELDER family,
called the "PAXTANG ELDER" group of PA--
 I transcribed part of his book chapter on ELDER here:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/EglePAelder.htm

THE DNA from this family,
 now 4 FTDNA entries,
all Haplogroup "I1b2a1-ISLES"
can be seen on Katherine Hope BORGES "Scotland DNA" chart.

Book entry:
Egle, William Henry.
Pennsylvania Genealogies.
Lane S. Hart. Harrisburg. 1886.  Reprint.
Baltimore : Genealogical Pub. Co., 1969.
viii, 798 p. ; 23 cm.

Pages 151-176
Chapter heading:
    ELDER FAMILY.
 I. ROBERT ELDER, b. about 1679 in Scotland, emigrated from Lough
Neagh, county Antrim,Ireland, where he had previously settled, to
America, about 1730, locating in Paxtang
township, then Lancaster, now Dauphin county, Pa.,
on a tract of land near the first ridge of
the Kittochtinny mountains, five miles north of Harrisburg.
He died the 28th of July, 1746, in Paxtang, and is buried in the old
church grave-yard.
He married, in 1703, ELEANOR (?) GILLESPIE,
b. in 1684; d. October 25, 1742.
They had issue:
2.    i. Robert, b. 1704; m. and had issue.
3.   ii. John, b. January 26, 1706;
         m., 1st, Mary Baker; 2d, Mary Simpson.
4.  iii. Thomas, b. 1708;
       m. Mary Patterson,
           dau. of WilliamPatterson, of Paxtang.
5.   iv. David, b. 1710; m. Hannah Anderson.
      v. James, b. 1712; settled in Fannett township, Cumberland
                (now Franklin) county, Pa.
      vi. Ann, b. 1713; m. [John] Anderson, of Octoraro. We
              have no further information of this the, perchance,
               only sister of Reverend John Elder.

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Another story for "PAXTANG PA ELDER" says:
"The ancestorial home of the Elder family is
assumed to have been Elderslie, near
Paisley in Renfreshire, Scotland.
 Being about six miles from Glasgow.
 It was in this shire that the progenitor of the
American family was born, about 1679.  
He moved to Lough Neagh, country Antrim, Ireland.
 The date of his arrival in Pennsylvania is
unknown, but he died near Harrisburg, at seven o'clock July 28th,
1746, and is interred in an unmarked grave in The Paxtang Grave-
Yard attached to the church, where his son, the famous "fighting
parson," ministered for many years."
  (above data taken from a record of Parson Elder,
kept in vol. of Bishop Atterbury's sermons.
 Now in possession of Dauphin Co. His. Soc. )

Another ELDER DNA group is my brother's
 "R1b1" matching 15 entries
 of "FRANKLIN CO PA":
From our Rev. War Soldier, Robert ELDER, (1730-1807)
born near Perth on the Tay, died 1807 in Franklin Co PA.
"FRANKLIN CO PA" charts and files,
compiled and donated by
Louise ELDER Gillispie,
were found in the online catalog of
Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia
at

http://www.hsp.org

titled:
"Descendants of Robert Elder (d.1807), Franklin County, Pa."
Call Number: "FC El"
Location: Closed Stacks (call slip needed)
Status: On shelf
Title: Descendants of Robert Elder (d.1807), Franklin County, Pa.
Local Note(s):        Acc. 1983.
Subject(s): Elder family.
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More SCOTLAND histories:
JOHN ELDER, cartographer, born in Caithness in 1500's,
contributed to publication of:
MERCATOR ATLAS OF EUROPE
see:

http://www.walkingtree.com/excerptbarber.html

MAPPING BRITAIN FROM AFAR
Chapter Excerpt by Peter M. Barber
... "In France he presented Mary, Queen of Scots, with an autograph letter and
     (in a display of indirect vanity?) a fanciful map of the New Utopia ostensibly
      by his eight-year-old pupil, Lord Darnley."
...
In 1973 D.G. Moir suggested the John Elder (who signed himself Eldar)
was responsible for the depiction of Scotland on Mercator's map of 1564..."

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Sailing Directions For The North Coast, by George Watson

http://www.caithness.org/history/articles/sailingdirections.htm
 ...."The most likely candidate was John Elder, who was born in Caithness and
 was brought up In Skye and Lewis.
In 1543 Elder sent a letter and a 'plotte' or map of Scotland to King Henry VIII.
 As a cartographer he is likely to have had the type of information which Lindsay needed."

Also in ONLINE BOOK:
"The Highlanders of Scotland"
By William F. Skene, D.C.L. (1836)
Edited by Alexander MacBain, M.A., L.L.D. (1902)
Transcribed Chapters posted on Electric Scotland webpages.
Home page:

http://www.electricscotland.com/history/highlanders/index.htm
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Searching for ELDER in each chapter,
finally found the same JOHN ELDER (mapmaker, b. Caithness)
Part 2 Chapter 1

http://www.electricscotland.com/history/highlanders/part2chap1.htm
...
" The first proof of the existence of this tradition which I shall bring forward,
is contained in a letter dated 1542, and addressed to King Henry VIII of England,
by a person designating himself “John Elder, clerk, a Reddschanke.”
More Elder entries in Northern Scotland:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/Sutherland.htm

From book: "BRAVE SONS OF SKYE"
notes:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/Skye.htm
Page 219:
  THE ELDERS OF ISLEORNSAY AND KNOCK,
       IN THE PARISH OF SLEAT

Major-General SIR GEORGE ELDER , K.C.B.
        [Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath]
 ."...The Elders had fighting blood in their veins from both sides of the
house, ancestors of theirs (Stuart and Elder) having fought at
Culloden on the side of the Prince."
    "Sir George Elder was a soldier born..."
        "He was appointed as an Ensign in the 46th Foot on the
         27th of November, 1799...."
.....Major in the Portuguese army on the 13th of April, 1809...
.....Lieutenant Governor of Newfoundland on the 4th of October, 1826;
and Commander-in-Chief in Madras in August, 1836."

"Lieutenant-Colonel Alexander MacDonald Elder, of the Bombay Fusiliers,
...was born in the parish of Sleat, as was also his brother,
   Commander Benjamin John Elder."
   Both were nephews of Sir George Elder...."

Elder Surname in
 "The Surnames of Scotland" by George Fraser Black.
Pg. 241.
ELDER.  The 'elder,' signifying the elder of two bearing the same
 forename.  John Eldar or Eldare de Corstorfin was burgess of Edinburgh in 1423 (LSC., p. 227; Egidii, p. 44).
  The surname is also recorded in Aberdeen in 1447 (CRA., p. 15).
 John Elder, a renegade Scot, urged Henry VIII ('Bagcheeks')
to invade Scotland, assuring him of the
 support of the Highland Clans (Coll., p. 23-32).
Andro Elder, reidare at Menmure, 1574 (RMR.). Cf. Macnoravaich.

Following are the sources mentioned in the entry for Elder:
--LSC.  Liber cartarum Sancte Crucis . . . Edinburgh, 1840.
--Egidii.  Registrum cartarum ecclesie Sancti Egidii de Edinburgh. .
 . 1344-1567. Edinburgh, 1859.
--CRA. Extracts from the council register of the burgh of Aberdeen.
 Aberdeen, 1844-45. 2 v. v. 1: 1398-1570; v. 2: 1570-1625.
--Coll. Collectanea de rebus Albanicis, consisting of original papers
 and documents relating to the history of the Highlands and Islands.
 Edinburgh, 1847.
--RMR.  Register of ministers and readers in the Kirk of Scotland. .
 . 1574. (In: Wodrow Society miscellany. v. 1. 1844.)
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